Diamond - Rashmi n Smita

May 08, 2026 13:19 · 1:12:41 · English · Whisper Turbo · 2 speakers
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How you all doing?
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Okay,
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I got few fired up here.
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A couple are going to catch up there.
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Okay, then we'll fine.
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We'll take care of you.
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But we are Rashmi and Smita.
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Those of you still confused,
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I am Rashmi, say Smita,
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you know. Every now and then people still call her Rashmi,
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you know. See response though.
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This session,
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next few minutes that we're going to be with you,
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goal is to share with you how we did what we did.
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How we did what we talked about in the earlier session.
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How we put the team together,
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where we got started and where we're going.
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And most of all,
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I'll leave you with some thoughts about the business,
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where we see it's going,
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where the industry is taking and why we're excited about it.
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going to the future,
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you know,
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still being as diamonds and moving on.
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Just to get you started,
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as I mentioned in my seminar portion,
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you know, I originally was born in,
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you know,
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Bhunesha, India.
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It's a state called Orissa.
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Very few people will meet from that state.
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It's a very lazy state,
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okay, so don't ask me.
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Grew up with a family.
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Dad is an engineer.
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His time,
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IIT graduate,
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you know.
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By the time he retired,
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he was, you know,
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state chief and all that stuff.
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Mom was a housewife,
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grew up with a younger brother and a sister.
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And it's amazing slowly to see how business has grown into
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them because a lot of,
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when we initially got into the business,
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you know, they really didn't quite understand what the business stood for.
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And as and when you hear the story,
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you'll realize where it is today.
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And I went to engineering college,
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you know, probably, you know,
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Smith always says,
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you know, either you engineer or doctor,
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middle class family,
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that's the only options you have,
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you know, growing up in India.
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And, you know,
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went into engineering.
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From there,
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you know,
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started doing,
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you know,
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I guess entrepreneurship was always there.
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And me and one more of my roommate,
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you know,
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I want you to keep this roommate in mind.
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He'll come back later on in the story.
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On a good way,
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though. This is a good one,
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okay? And we started doing some projects on the side,
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you know, just little things while doing undergrad,
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you know, to make some extra money,
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you know, put some models together,
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worked on some side projects and things like that.
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Actually, by the time I bought it,
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I was getting done with the undergrad,
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then I moved to New Delhi,
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those of you know,
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capital of India,
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to start working there.
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I worked there for a few months.
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Got fed up of it.
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You know,
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it's like, you know,
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same morning,
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wake up and take the bus and all that kind of stuff.
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Anyway, so moved back to Arisa after that and started our own company,
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actually.
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And both me and my friend started running a construction
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consulting company.
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Okay.
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As a matter of fact,
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the company still runs today.
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We are about to,
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you know, hand it over to finish up the projects and hand it over.
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But still runs today and good turnover,
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you know, big company,
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whatever.
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But during the time of my about to finish my undergrad,
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my dad always had this vision.
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You know, I guess he,
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you know, he was,
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his time, one of the top guys.
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He went to IIT of his time.
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He was one of the top Indian institutes.
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And so he always had this vision that,
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you know, because all his friends had,
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you know, eventually moved to United States of America.
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That big dream,
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the name, you know,
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United States and whatnot.
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I never, to be honest with you,
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cared.
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I was like,
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I'm fine here,
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man. I run my own company.
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I make money.
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It doesn't matter.
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So it's his dream which eventually actually got me to the United States.
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And of course,
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you know, I didn't know whether I'll ever get here.
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I'm like, whatever,
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let me just apply for it,
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you know. So I sent in some applications and whatever,
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you know.
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Got two admission calls,
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actually, to come in to do a master's,
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you know.
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And one was from Buffalo,
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sunny Buffalo,
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and the other one was Kansas State University.
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And neither one of the place I had funding,
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which takes care of tuition and all that stuff.
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But eventually I showed up in Kansas because the professor there said,
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well, high probability that you're going to get it.
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Just on that one line I came,
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I guess.
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It's a funny thing.
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I never did get the funding until three semesters later.
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It was only last semester I had funding.
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Funny story.
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So I'm about to take this flight to come to Manhattan,
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Kansas.
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That's where Kansas State University is,
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okay? Of all things,
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my dad thinks I'm going to Manhattan,
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New York.
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You know,
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he's like, oh, you're going to be in Manhattan,
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you're going to see big tall buildings and this and that and I'm also...
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You don't have two cities with the same name in India,
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just to clarify things for you.
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So I'm here and I'm like,
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dad, but he's saying some KCI airport,
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something, you know,
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doesn't sound too good.
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Like, well,
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how many Manhattans will there be?
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I'm like, good point.
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It's your dad talking,
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you don't argue with him,
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you know. So I took a one -way flight ticket with no expectation on
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the other and where I'm landing,
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fully expecting to land in Manhattan,
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New York.
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Landed up in Manhattan,
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Kansas.
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Tallest story in Manhattan,
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Kansas.
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Tallest building is four story high,
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okay? Middle of cow pasture,
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okay?
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That's what I landed up with.
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Alright?
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The rest of the story is just like probably any other student,
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you know. Five,
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you know, people living in an apartment and,
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you know, it's crazy.
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You know, everybody paying $100 for the rent.
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You know, I remember, you know,
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a friend of mine saying,
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calling the landlord saying,
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man, you know.
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They had a mouse running in the house.
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It's like for a hundred bucks,
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what do you want?
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Horses in your house,
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you know? All those crazy stories.
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One guy had to be in the lab all the time.
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You couldn't fit five people in there,
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you know? Nobody had funding anyway,
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so I still can't remember how we lived on that kind of $300,
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$500.
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No job,
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nothing to find,
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no funding, so I,
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you know, I get this cafeteria job to start cleaning dishes.
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I remember during that time,
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during that six,
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nine months,
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when I was, you know,
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the initial struggle days,
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and I was sitting there thinking,
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what on earth am I doing here?
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And leaving a company which I started and just growing and,
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you know, I'm here washing dishes and getting a master's degree.
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I don't even know why I'm getting it for.
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Honestly,
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it never made sense to me.
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I remember questioning that a lot during that time in my life.
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And of course,
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you know, eventually finished grad school,
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you know,
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last semester is the only semester I had funding.
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And so I ended up getting out of grad school in $18 ,000 in
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loan because,
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you know.
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Not much money because,
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you know, as I said,
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grew up in middle -class family,
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not like my dad and a gas reserve.
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So,
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you know, you learn,
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you know, you need visa to come into the country,
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then you need visa to stay in the country,
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you know, visa card, you know.
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So,
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I pretty much used that,
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okay. So,
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it's about that time is when I started interviewing.
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I'm like, I better pay off this loan before I do anything about it,
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you know. So,
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I started interviewing this project.
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I was by then tired of cold,
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you know, Kansas,
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cold, you know.
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We have a saying in Kansas,
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you don't like the weather,
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wait two minutes, it'll change,
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you know.
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This is like middle of the United States,
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you know, north wind,
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south wind, east wind,
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west wind, everything passes through Kansas,
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okay? So it's a funny place.
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So I'm interviewing all this company,
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not at all interviewing any place in
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cold region.
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So I'm giving interviews in Virginia,
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in Louisiana,
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all over.
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I actually had an offer from Virginia.
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So I get this call,
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interview call in Chicago.
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It's a media company.
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I can't tell you the name,
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but part of the name is Tribune,
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okay? I can't tell the whole name.
6:52
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And so I eventually interviewed for the company.
6:54
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So that guy offers me $1 ,000 more than the other offer I had.
6:59
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It's the only company I've ever interviewed in Chicago.
7:01
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I haven't applied any other company in Chicago.
7:03
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So he offers me a job with $1 ,000 more than the other company in Virginia.
7:07
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Guess where I joined?
7:08
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Chicago.
7:09
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
All right.
7:10
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
Now I joined Chicago fully expecting that in six months I'm going to get out of there.
7:14
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
Okay,
7:15
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it's like, okay, fine.
7:16
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$1 ,000 extra.
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I'll stay here six months.
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I'll go,
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you know.
7:20
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
10 years later,
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I'm still there,
7:21
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
okay? Just to let you know.
7:23
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
So how people make decisions in their life is just amazing.
7:26
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You know, you just make,
7:27
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just because $1 ,000 extra,
7:28
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I showed up in Chicago.
7:29
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
But the reason I tell you all of that story is it's going to be amazing
7:33
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when you look back today.
7:34
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
When you are going through it,
7:36
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you don't know why it happens,
7:37
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
right? But when you look back later on,
7:39
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you know, these are all strings which are attached.
7:41
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
It's about the time when I moved to Chicago,
7:43
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I'm looking for a roommate because,
7:45
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
you know, the rent is pretty high.
7:48
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
And you got to share somebody's rent with you so you can save some money.
7:51
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
It's amazing how many times you saw the plan and people are excited
7:55
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
and then two days later you meet them like,
7:57
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oh, what happened?
7:58
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
Oh,
7:59
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I talked to my roommate.
8:00
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
It always bothers me.
8:01
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
Well,
8:02
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
did it ever occur to you that your roommate can't afford the whole
8:06
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
rent?
8:07
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
That's why he's sharing rent with you?
8:08
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
Anyway,
8:09
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
forget it.
8:10
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I'm going to stay away from that one.
8:11
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
And you're taking financial advice from him?
8:13
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
God.
8:13
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
Anyway,
8:14
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
forget it.
8:15
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
So I'm looking for a roommate.
8:16
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
So it used to be an internet digest thing where you're looking for a roommate,
8:20
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
whatever.
8:21
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
You put it in the online thing.
8:23
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
And from that digest,
8:24
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
Ganesh picks up this number and calls me.
8:26
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
Actually, it's a funny story.
8:28
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
Ganesh has registered his cousin,
8:29
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sister Divya.
8:30
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I'm personally registered by Ganesh's cousin,
8:32
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sister Divya,
8:33
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actually.
8:33
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And he's trying to teach her how to make a phone call.
8:37
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
So he used to call,
8:38
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
get 10 numbers out of this digest and give it to her,
8:41
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
you know, for practice calls.
8:44
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
You know, fully expecting that,
8:45
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you know, come on,
8:46
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
these are crazy numbers.
8:47
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
Nobody's going to say something.
8:48
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And the weirdest thing has to link to my name.
8:51
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
You know, those of you come,
8:52
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understand my name is actually Rashmi Ranjan.
8:54
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
But because of,
8:55
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you know, majority of you know,
8:56
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you live in the country,
8:57
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
the names keep getting shorter and shorter,
8:59
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you know. So,
9:00
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eventually people call me Rashmi and my professor used to call me Ras.
9:03
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
You know, forget all that.
9:03
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So,
9:06
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
he sees the name and fully expecting it's the lady's name.
9:09
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
She picks up the phone and calls me.
9:11
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
And that's the time I moved from Kansas.
9:15
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I still don't have a phone number.
9:16
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
So he calls my Kansas number.
9:18
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
My old roommate was still there.
9:20
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
He had finished his exam,
9:22
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but he had some papers to finish.
9:23
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
He was still there.
9:24
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
So he picks up the number.
9:24
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
He's like, well,
9:25
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
Rashmi has moved to Chicago.
9:26
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
He's not here.
9:28
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
Well,
9:29
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
does he have a number there?
9:30
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
No.
9:31
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I said, okay.
9:31
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I don't know,
9:33
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for some reason,
9:34
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she called back again two weeks later,
9:35
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and I had the number.
9:37
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
And my roommate had already called him and given him my number.
9:39
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
Hey, this is my Chicago number.
9:40
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
So he gives that number.
9:42
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
Now,
9:43
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
by this time,
9:43
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
Ganesh has already built a team,
9:45
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
of course, in Detroit,
9:47
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
but he's been trying to put a team in Chicago.
9:48
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
Plugging in people,
9:49
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
blah, blah, blah,
9:50
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
not really anything happening as such.
9:52
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
And here's the experimental number,
9:54
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
expecting a girl to pick up,
9:56
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and I pick up the phone.
9:57
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And then,
9:58
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you know, of course,
9:59
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Divya...
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You know, get me through,
10:01
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
then eventually got the number,
10:02
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
Ganesh calls me.
10:02
S… Speaker 2 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
Say, hey listen,
10:03
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
we have, we're putting a project together,
10:05
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
do you want to work on any project to make some extra money?
10:07
S… Speaker 2 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I'm like,
10:08
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
dude,
10:09
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I need it.
10:09
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
What do you mean, do I want to,
10:11
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
you know? $18 ,000 loan,
10:12
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
come on, what do you got,
10:13
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
you know? That kind of a deal.
10:15
S… Speaker 2 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
See,
10:15
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
understand, I used to run my own company before in India,
10:17
S… Speaker 2 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
so it didn't,
10:19
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
you know, it wasn't unusual for me to get a business proposition or to look at things,
10:23
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
you know? I mean,
10:24
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
it's normal.
10:25
S… Speaker 2 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
Yeah,
10:25
S… Speaker 2 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
you should look at things,
10:27
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
nothing wrong with it.
10:28
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I mean, unless you see how you want to know what you want,
10:30
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
you know, you should go check things out,
10:32
S… Speaker 2 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
you know. So they said,
10:34
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
okay, I have the senior partner coming to Chicago.
10:36
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
He's going to, I'm going to go check this thing out.
10:38
S… Speaker 2 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I said, okay.
10:39
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
So he gives me some apartment address and some Sunday,
10:42
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
Saturday or Sunday,
10:43
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I can't remember.
10:44
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And he says,
10:44
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
goes here and they're going to expect you and be there and go check this thing out.
10:48
S… Speaker 2 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I said, okay.
10:48
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
So I pick up my first car,
10:50
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
which I had bought a $1 ,000 Toyota.
10:52
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
The car had a brain of its own.
10:54
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
It will stop in the middle of the road whenever it wanted to.
10:56
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
No,
10:57
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
it did. One day it just stopped.
10:58
S… Speaker 2 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I left it.
10:58
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I used to call it artificial intelligence car.
11:02
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
It had a brain of its own.
11:03
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
So I pick up my $1 ,000 car.
11:06
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
It's a summer day.
11:07
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
So I put on my shorts and T -shirt and I go.
11:10
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
to check out a business plan.
11:11
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I go to this apartment and,
11:13
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
you know,
11:13
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
some little thing and I walk in there,
11:16
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
there are about 30 people packed in that apartment.
11:18
S… Speaker 2 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I'm like,
11:19
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
uh -oh.
11:20
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
You know,
11:20
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
when it occurred to me that there's something wrong going on,
11:22
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
when I saw half of them wearing tie and suit in an apartment,
11:26
S… Speaker 2 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I'm like,
11:28
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I was the only one in shorts in that apartment,
11:30
S… Speaker 2 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
okay?
11:31
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
And guess what?
11:33
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
And they do this introduction and this guy comes up,
11:35
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
he's jumping up and on,
11:36
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
he's coupling sun and suit on.
11:38
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I'm like, something is wrong here,
11:40
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
man. And every chair is taken.
11:43
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
They're like, yeah,
11:43
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
you know, take a seat somewhere.
11:44
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I just sat down on the floor.
11:45
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I'm like, okay, sit down,
11:47
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
man. What's the big deal,
11:48
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
you know? So these guys talking about stuff and money and this and that.
11:52
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
And then,
11:52
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
you know how in the middle of the plan,
11:53
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
they ask you, what would you do if you made extra $2 ,000,
11:56
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
you know?
11:56
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
Somebody to buy a house,
11:57
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
buy a car.
11:58
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
He looks down at me.
11:59
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I'm the only one sitting on the carpet,
12:00
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
okay? So what would you do?
12:01
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I'll buy an entertainment center,
12:03
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
music system,
12:04
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
you know? Must have thought,
12:05
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
what a big dreamer,
12:06
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
you know?
12:08
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
So after the plan is done,
12:09
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
and Ganesha told me,
12:10
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
they'll give you some literature.
12:11
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I say,
12:12
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
okay. And he's forgot to tell the speaker that I'm coming because he never expected
12:16
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
me to show up because he has tried in Chicago.
12:18
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
Nobody ever went to any plans in Chicago,
12:21
S… Speaker 2 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
whoever he called.
12:23
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
So, he never told him.
12:24
S… Speaker 2 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
So,
12:24
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I walk up to the speaker,
12:25
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I said, after one,
12:26
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
he said, well,
12:27
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
you know, Ganesh from Detroit called me,
12:29
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I don't know him, he just called me,
12:30
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
but he said,
12:31
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
you'll give me some literature.
12:32
S… Speaker 2 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
He said, okay,
12:33
S… Speaker 2 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
okay, you wait,
12:33
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
you know, he's taking care of the professional guys before the,
12:36
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
before the shorts guy comes in,
12:37
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
you know what I mean?
12:38
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
Let me see if he hangs around there,
12:39
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
you know. He thought,
12:40
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I'll take off or something.
12:41
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I hang around for 10 minutes,
12:42
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
then I go and say, okay, can you,
12:43
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
are you giving me something?
12:45
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
Then very reluctantly,
12:46
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
it used to be one of those boyos before you had,
12:48
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
you know, the 30 bucks big literatures we had.
12:50
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
I mean, it's expensive.
12:51
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
You want to give it to a guy with the sorts,
12:53
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
you don't know whether he'll come back,
12:53
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
you know what I mean?
12:54
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
And three times he tells me,
12:56
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
okay, you go through it,
12:57
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
make sure you give it back to Ganesh,
12:58
S… Speaker 1 (Diamond - Rashmi n Smita)
you know. The reason I tell you that story is the gentleman

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