Conversations with Tyler
Conversations with Tyler

Jonny Steinberg on South African Crime and Punishment, the Mandelas' Marriage, and the Post-Apartheid Era

Oct 28, 2025 · 52m

<p class="MsoNormal" style= "margin-bottom: 0in; line-height: normal;"><span style= "font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;"> Tyler considers <em>Winnie and Nelson: Portrait of a Marriage</em> one of the best books of the last decade, and its author Jonny Steinberg one of the most underrated writers and thinkers—in North America, at least. Steinberg's particular genius lies in getting uncomfortably close to difficult truths through immersive research—spending 350 hours in police ride-alongs, years studying prison gangs and their …

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