The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

562. What Do We Actually Know About Autism? | Sir Simon Baron-Cohen

Jul 14, 2025 · 1h 43m

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson speaks with psychologist and autism researcher Dr. Simon Baron-Cohen about the nature of empathy, systemizing, and the neurological basis of autism. This needed conversation explores how humans develop theory of mind, the differences between cognitive and affective empathy, and why some individuals gravitate toward systems over social interaction. They discuss the evolutionary roots of invention, gender differences in cognition, and how autistic traits relate to creativity and pattern recognition. Unflinchingly, they also discuss the darker side …

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