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for a chat as well and i started off by asking him if there
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was a moment when he knew that conducting was what he wanted
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to do i wanted to to give a story about me you know listening
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to a mother symphony when i was a child and was moved but that's untrue that's
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a romantic view the truth is i actually just i
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went to conducting quite gradually i was trained as a trombonist
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And I spent a lot of time sitting in the orchestra,
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at the back of the orchestra,
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counting rest.
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Because for a trombone player,
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there's really not so much to do.
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Occasionally,
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you know, we are like the full artillery that comes in.
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And so I usually have a full score with me.
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And during rehearsals,
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I would just look at the full score and try to understand what the conductor was trying to do.
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What was he trying to say?
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And understanding more about the music.
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So eventually...
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That led me to picking up conducting in university
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when I was at YST,
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which is one of the classes I teach now at YST.
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And from then on,
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I decided to do my graduate
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studies in conducting.
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So I was a trombone major in YST.
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And then when I was doing my audition round,
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what happened was my success rate for my auditions as a
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conductor was 100%.
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And as a trombone player,
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it was a 50%.
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So at that point,
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I was thinking,
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well,
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is this the universe telling me,
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you know, showing me some signs?
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So eventually,
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I pursued my graduate studies in conducting in the States at Cincinnati
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and also at the Eastman School of Music.
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But I think the major turning point for
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me, I was doing quite well in my conducting studies.
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getting invited to various competitions and stuff.
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But the main turning point was when I was invited to the Lucent
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Festival with Maestro Bernard Haitink.
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And of course,
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that's like,
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oh my goodness,
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what a giant.
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So what happened was they usually invite 20
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people from all over the world who applied to come and audition for
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Mr.
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Haitink.
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And he would pick.
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six or seven people to be like the active participants which means you know you you
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get to work with him every day and have time with the orchestra so i remember
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looking at the list of the 20 people and i was like oh my god these people you know this
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person just won a competition this person just won a competition and it was just you know like
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a really prestigious list and i'm like that's me no but you are 100
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So I went over,
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you know,
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with not much hope,
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but, you know, just giving it a shot.
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And when he eventually picked me to be one of the active participants,
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I think that that gave me a really strong boost of confidence that
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I knew, okay,
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this is something that I should be really pursuing.
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And then,
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you know, to double confirm in Singaporean fashion,
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after that,
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I took part in some competitions and eventually won my first job.
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in the Polish National Radio Symphony Orchestra.
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That's something.
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That is...
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I was really quite proud of that achievement.
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But again,
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same thing.
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Maybe it's another Singaporean,
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you know, signature that when I was invited to the audition,
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I was just going to just give it a try because I was thinking...
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The Polish National Radio Symphony Orchestra hiring at Singaporean,
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I mean, the chances are quite minuscule.
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So I went and I was offered the job right after the audition.
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And from then on,
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you know, I stepped into this path of professional conducting and never
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looked back.
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But do these roles kind of feel...
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separate,
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you know, because you're an educator as well and you still play the trombone?
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I don't, unfortunately.
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Oh no.
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But then you also,
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like, are you part of any ensemble?
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-05-08 at 6.32.25 PM)
Yes.
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So you do wear many hats,
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but do they feel separate or,
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you know, it's part of like one bigger picture for you?
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Oh, definitely.
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They are all part of one bigger picture.
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I think the usual dichotomy between,
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you know,
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teaching and then performing i think to me it really makes sense both
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both sides kind of help each other um what i mean by that is
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In education,
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you know, I get to work with the younger musicians,
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which I think is very important.
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Teaching at YST,
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where I graduated from,
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I think it means something quite special to me.
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But at the same time,
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I need to have enough fuel or enough,
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you know, information to teach them.
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And that's where the professional performing part comes into play.
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Like, if I'm constantly performing,
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I can give them,
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you know, valuable experiences.
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If not, then,
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you know, what I can teach,
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you know, also becomes much less.
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So I think this educating and performing side really,
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you know, complements each other and the other aspects of the
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business, so to speak,
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you know, like founding my own ensemble.
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That was really kind of out of necessity.
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This was during COVID times where everything was shut down and
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I decided I didn't want to sit at home.
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twiddling my thumbs.
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So I decided to look into what kind of repertoire was
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missing in Singapore.
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And I thought,
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you know, there were music that I was very passionate about,
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but also underperformed or underrepresented in Singapore
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or this part of the world.
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And,
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you know, one thing led to another.
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And I think like all these different hats really compliment me
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trying to build communities that...
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that love and appreciate music that I love.
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So one role feeds another.
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Absolutely,
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absolutely.
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Now,
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you also conduct Chinese orchestras and
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of course the Western orchestras and quite naturally too.
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Do you approach rehearsals differently depending on the orchestra that you're working
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with? Yeah,
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I don't think it's so much a matter of genre because in the end,
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all the rehearsals all lead to one thing.
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All the musicians come to rehearsals.
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One thing,
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when they leave the rehearsal,
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things got better.
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You know, either it's a method of ensemble,
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understanding of the piece.
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And so on that respect,
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I feel that rehearsals with any ensemble is very,
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very similar.
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But of course, what's different is there are different instruments.
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There are different instruments in the various orchestras or
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ensembles.
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And I think understanding the tendency of these instruments really
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makes a difference about what I do in rehearsals.
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But you're also known for your work with contemporary repertoire.
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And I know,
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right, sometimes audiences can kind of be like a little nervous
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around the phrase new music.
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So what excites you about contemporary music personally?
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I think what really excites me is the pluralism
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in contemporary music.
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I think there is...
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There's music for everyone in that space.
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Right now,
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music are being written,
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you know, either with a new understanding of harmony and melody,
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or some music can be written completely with noises,
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so to speak.
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And there's just a whole wide range.
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And I think a lot of times when people get anxious about contemporary music,
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they tend to think contemporary music is something that is...
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very obscure or very hard to understand.
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I mean, that's one component of it.
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Or discordant.
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Yeah, but even that,
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you know, there's certain logic in why they do it.
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Of course, you know,
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that might take some time,
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but I feel that there's a lot of different perspectives
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about it.
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And I think music today also talks about issues
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today.
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And I think that is quite relevant in our times.
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There's a lot of music written about current events.
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or reflecting upon these things.
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Recently,
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I think in the Met Opera,
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they staged a Finnish composer,
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Kaya Sayahou's Innocence,
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which talks about a school shooting.
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I mean,
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right,
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this is a topic that is so,
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you know, close to our hearts today when we look at,
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and this is something that,
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you know, it's not the same subject topic as,
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you know, Carmen or Boheme,
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or even,
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you know, like Butterfly.
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I mean, that is almost like such a...
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timeless and unfortunately recurring tragedy.
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Yeah, I guess you've got to bring issues of our time into the music too.
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So that's what excites me about contemporary music because it talks about today.
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Okay,
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so let's move on to,
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well,
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there's going to be one contemporary piece in this upcoming concert that
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you'll be conducting.
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That's the Mother's Day concert at the Singapore Botanic Gardens.
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What can audiences look forward to?
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Well, I think this time...
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The theme of this concert is really about,
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it's kind of operatic highlights,
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so to speak.
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So we opened the concert with the overture from De Fledermaus,
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which I think many audience would be very familiar with.
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High energy,
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you know, kind of champagne popping music.
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And then also another overture by Rossini.
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This is the Italian girl in Algiers.
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Also a lot of,
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you know, fun and joy.
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And so we have two overtures.
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as well as some of the favourites such as the Polonaise from Tchaikovsky's
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Eugene Onegin.
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They kind of form a
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pillar.
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Then we have a couple of...
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arias.
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One is Jose's aria from Carmen,
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the flower aria.
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Such gorgeous,
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exquisite music.
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And we have a Singaporean tenor,
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Jonathan Chouste,
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which I think is his birthday today,
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will be singing that fabulous aria.
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And also,
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as you just mentioned,
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we will be also,
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this is kind of a new commission by a Singaporean
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composer, Chen Changyi.
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So he wrote this opera for Chamber of Forces.
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But specifically for Mother's Day,
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SSO has commissioned him to arrange it for a full orchestra.
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So the audience will be in for a surprise.
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And it's such a delightful but also kind of poignant aria
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because...
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This aria is called Her World Was Full and it's
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taken from his opera Losing Lily.
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And this opera is about dementia.
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Again,
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you know, we talk about current issues and things very close to our heart.
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So Lily,
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who is the mother,
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is, you know, eventually losing her memories.
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And this aria is sung by her son to remember the wonderful times
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they have.
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So I think this is such a befitting,
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you know,
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theme for Mother's Day.
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and uh and it's it's it's very beautifully written um you
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know there is uh beautiful harmonies and melodies so this is not
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the typical you know
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more avant -garde kind of new music,
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but it's still new music.
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It's still written by a composer living in our times.
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And I think that to me is a
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very important part of what I do to advocate for music
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of Asia, especially Singaporean music.
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Yes, and you'll be leading this,
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one of those lovely Singapore traditions too.
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Mother's Day at the Botanics.
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Yes, what a wonderful time there.
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Okay, just to end on a lighter note,
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what is your best?
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concert, post -concert dinner or supper in
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Singapore?
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Where are you heading?
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Well,
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I'll be meeting some friends,
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but I don't know if we're going to anything fancy.
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I think when I was younger,
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a late -night prata would be great.
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But I think these days,
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you know, it's really quite simple.
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I don't really take much after.
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Maybe some drinks with friends,
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but yeah.
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Okay,
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drinks with friends sounds good.
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Drinks with friends.
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Thank you so much for being with us.
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Thank you so much, Caitlin.
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Singaporean conductor Lian Boon Hwa speaking with me earlier about
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this Sunday's Mother's Day concert with the Singapore Symphony Orchestra at the Singapore
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Botanic Gardens.
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The concert starts at 6pm and there's also a pre -concert
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performance from 5 .30pm by clarinetist Chua J.
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Roon.
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And our Breakfast Show host,
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Andrew Lim, and I will be there too.
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