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May 08, 2026 14:50
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speaker today south africa
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belongs to us shall
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be introducing legislation to implement our
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policy which we call apartheid the
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separation between the races races
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will live and travel separately education
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will be separate for all groups at all levels
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Native reserves will become black homelands.
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Work fitting for the white man will
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be reserved for him and him alone.
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Part
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8 rests on three unarguable
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foundations.
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Africana experience.
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Experience.
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Scientific proof that the white man is
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a superior being.
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And biblical witness.
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Apartheid represents divine will.
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I'm sorry
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to disturb you.
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My name is Mandela.
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I'm from the African National Congress.
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Hi.
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Don't
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be frightened.
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I'm afraid.
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My name is Mandela.
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I'm from the African National Congress.
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Oh, please,
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come in.
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We're
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calling it the defiance campaign.
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We want volunteers.
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I'm the national volunteer -in -chief,
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which just means I'm helping to organize.
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I'm asking for volunteers for the first wave of protesters.
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We will call them Amadella Kufa.
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It means those who are prepared to make sacrifices,
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those who are prepared to die.
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We need people who think they can put up with being
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kicked and beaten and who won't be provoked by violent action.
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I know I'm asking a lot.
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Sir, I can't promise I won't hit back.
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You mustn't hit back.
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Never.
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Wait for the violence to come from them.
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I promise you,
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you won't have to wait long.
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I'd like to volunteer,
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but I've been arrested twice.
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The second time was for hitting back.
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I kicked this policeman.
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Sir,
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you know I have a very bad temper.
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So have I.
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But I'm learning to control it.
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If you volunteer,
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you must learn to control your temper too.
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These are the rules.
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You have to remain non -violent no matter what the
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provocation be.
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You have to dress neatly and cleanly.
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And there must be no drugginess.
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Go away!
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The city!
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No,
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no, you're wrong.
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Let me tell you something.
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The past few weeks...
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I've been traveling from one end of the country to the other.
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And this is what I've learned.
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We are the army.
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I swear to you,
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this is the truth.
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Everywhere,
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it's as if we're waking from sleep and understood that no one is alone
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anymore. Yes,
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they have guns,
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but they have nothing to do.
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Throughout history,
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no physical might has ever crushed the invincible spirit of a nation.
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And yes,
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we are a nation.
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We must pledge ourselves to liberate South Africa,
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black,
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white and yellow.
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Don't
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be under arrest.
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I have
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the figures here,
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Minister.
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Shut the window,
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please. The noise is disturbing.
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They're very rough and based largely on ANC claims.
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These concern directly this defiance campaign.
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They call for 10 ,000 volunteers.
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They reckon a little over 8 ,500 responded.
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But here's the worrying figure.
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It's estimated that because of the defiance campaign,
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membership of the ANC has risen from 7 ,000 to 100
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,000,
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and the campaign is still going on.
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Now you understand why I need these wider powers.
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What I want is more of a catch -all clause.
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To this effect,
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I should be able to name anyone I consider a communist a
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communist.
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We'd still have to define communist.
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Okay,
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but in the present draft...
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It just says only members of the Communist Party are communists,
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and I want to go further.
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I agree.
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And this is the sort of thing the West understands,
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especially the Americans.
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They know the Reds are the common enemy.
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Have you a specific suggestion,
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Minister?
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Yeah.
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I want included in
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the definition of communist any person or doctrine which aims
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to bring about political,
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industrial,
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social or economic change,
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etc.,
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etc.
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Those persons or doctrines I should be able to name as communists.
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Well,
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perhaps this is the moment,
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Minister, to bring to your attention our latest police intelligence report.
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It seems they're planning something they call the Congress of the
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People at Cliptown.
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All racial groups.
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And they're going to read this.
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This charter.
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The Freedom Charter,
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they call it.
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If that isn't communism,
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I want to know what is.
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There's only one thing for it.
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Cut off the head of the snake.
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Which
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gives us a hell of a lot of latitude.
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Now,
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this so -called Congress of the People is,
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of course, a communist conspiracy,
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and the new laws are designed in part to help us stop it from taking place.
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Okay.
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The Minister's instructions are
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that we go for the leaders,
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so each of you will have a special responsibility.
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Sergeant Van Niekirk,
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you get the biggie.
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Chief Albert Lutuli,
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President of the ANC.
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Sergeant Naudy,
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you're going to look after Walter Sisulu.
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Now this chap is a real troublemaker.
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Been with the ANC for years.
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Now he's General Secretary and he's dangerous.
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Bloody dangerous.
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Sergeant Lowe,
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you take special responsibility for Oliver Tambo.
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Now this man Tambo,
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he's an attorney at law and he's a member of the ANC's National Executive Committee.
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He's been in politics since he was a student and he's clever.
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So you just watch him closely.
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Sergeant Swanepoel,
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you're going to get Nelson Mandela,
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recruited to the ANC by Walter Sisulu.
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He's also an attorney and that fellow Tambo's law partner.
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They've been friends since student days.
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He's a cheeky bugger,
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and he's just been elected president of the Transvaal ANC.
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That is,
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defiance campaign has been a resounding
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success.
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Give you
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my solemn word.
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We will continue to resist these inhuman laws until every
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one of them is repealed.
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Your leaders will continue to fight.
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Arrest us.
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We cannot be defeated.
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We all know that song.
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Open your prison doors.
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We want to enter.
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We volunteer.
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We want to enter.
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We want to show them up for what they really are.
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Inhuman,
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violent men who are frightened of the future because the
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future is ours.
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The present is simply a price we have to pay,
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a high price I grant you,
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in police sales all over the country,
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thousands of us.
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And of
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course there's going to be no official inquiry into police brutality.
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That was to be expected.
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So we have to go on suffering.
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You have all been found guilty of statutory communism.
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It has nothing to do with communism as it is commonly known.
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But I accept the evidence that you have consistently advised
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your followers to maintain a peaceful course of action and to avoid
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violence in any shape or form.
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I am sentencing you to nine months
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imprisonment with hard labour but suspended for two years on condition you
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do not repeat the offence.
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You may stand down.
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Nelson Mandela,
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Walter Sisulu,
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and Oliver Tambo.
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I am authorised under the suppression of Communism Act No.
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44 of 1950 to issue you with a standing order signed by
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the Minister of Justice.
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I am going to tell you the main provision of this order.
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Thank you, officer, but we can read.
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You are hereby confined to the Magisterial District of Johannesburg.
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No gatherings,
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no meetings.
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You can forget the Freedom Charter,
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boys.
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You won't be going to Cliptown.
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My opinion,
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Walter, 26th June,
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1955 will go down in history.
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There were 3 ,000 people,
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African,
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Indian, colored,
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and white.
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We carried banners like freedom in our lifetime and long lived
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the struggle.
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The Freedom Charter was read in English,
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Sesotho,
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and closer.
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When the speaker said South Africa belongs to all who live in it,
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black and white,
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the people shall govern.
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There was a great cry of Africa,
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my boo, yeah.
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And so it continued after each section.
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All shall be equal before the law,
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Africa,
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my boo, yeah.
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There shall be peace and friendship,
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Africa,
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my boo, yeah.
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And so on.
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Hey, go on,
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go on. Now listen,
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when the police came in armed with
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stern guns,
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Someone started to sing My Booyer to the tune of Clementine.
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My Booyer,
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my Booyer,
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my Booyer,
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my Booyer, my Booyer, my Booyer, my Booyer,
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my Booyer, my Booyer, my Booyer,
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my Booyer, my Booyer,
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my Booyer, my Booyer, my Booyer, my Booyer, my Booyer, my Booyer, my Booyer,
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my Booyer,
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my Booyer, my Booyer,
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my Booyer,
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my Booyer, my Booyer, my Booyer, my Booyer, my Booyer, my Booyer, my Booyer, my Booyer, my Booyer, my Booyer, my Booyer, my Booyer, my Booyer, my Booyer, my Booyer, my Booyer, my Booyer, my Booyer, my Booyer
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The police took everything they could lay their hands on.
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Documents,
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banners, posters.
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When it got dark,
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they produced lamps.
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And while we were being searched,
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the band played freedom songs.
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And we all sang...
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Walter,
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you could feel the promise of freedom.
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You could feel the promise of freedom in the air.
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I hope to see you soon,
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yours.
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And we weren't there shall be.
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Peace and friendship.
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Now you know why they banned us so that we could not take part in our own history.
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These freedoms we will fight for side
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by side and we will out our lives until we have won our
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liberty.
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Africa,
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my...
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I'm
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drunk.
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I'm drunk on the promise of
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freedom.
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We have started something that can't be stopped.
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The Freedom Charter will start a revolution.
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And we weren't there.
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Got
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you.
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He's
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here, boys.
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Okay,
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Nelson.
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Have you got a warrant to be in here?
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You're a lawyer.
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Boys,
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we got a Caffer lawyer here.
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Speaker 3 (00)
Have I got a new
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hunter arrest?
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What's
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the charge?
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You've got all the right questions.
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I'm going to tell you the charge.
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So listen carefully.
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The charge
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is high treason,
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Caffer.
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High bloody treason.
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I
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am making a further application for bail,
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my lord.
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Because during the course of this trial...
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which as your lordship well knows has lasted many many
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months of the 156 accused charged
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with high treason 61 have had the indictment quashed
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a further 65 were found not guilty
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I therefore submit to your lordship that all 30 now
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remaining on trial should be put on bail immediately I'm inclined
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to agree
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I shall grant bail to all the remaining accused.
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Adelaide,
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you look
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fantastic.
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Thank you.
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Hello, Florence.
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Oliver,
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I'm famished.
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Okay, we'll find somewhere.
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We could go to that cafe.
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You know the one I mean.
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Anything you say,
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jump in.
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That's
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Winnie.
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That's Winnie Matigazela.
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She's staying at the Helping Hand.
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She's from your village,
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Oliver.
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Matigazela?
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I knew her father.
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Winnie!
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Winnie!
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Do you want a lift?
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Jump
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in.
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Winnie, I've seen you somewhere before.
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She's been in the newspapers,
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Oliver.
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That's where you've seen her.
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You've been in the newspapers?
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I'm at the Welfare Clinic.
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I'm going to be a social worker.
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They came along and wanted photographs of some of us at work.
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Well,
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well, well.
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In the newspapers,
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eh?
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I haven't
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eaten all day.
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I haven't left my wallet at the office.
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I haven't got a bean on it.
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Oliver!
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Our luck is
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in. Look who's in the cafe.
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I can go in,
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buy the whole shop,
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and tell Nelson he's got to pay for it.
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But
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he says I can buy the whole shop as long as I make you pay.
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How would you like?
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It's on me.
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I'm going
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to have to go back and wash the dishes.
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We are supposed to be meeting in half an hour.
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Make it an hour.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Aren't you going to introduce me?
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This is Nomzamo Winimadigizela.
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Nelson Mandela.
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Would you believe it?
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Winnie and I come from the same village.
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Are you related to this fellow?
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Don't you know Winnie?
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She's always plastered all over the newspapers.
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The welfare center,
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I remember.
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You staying at the Helping Hand hostel with Adelaide?
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One
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hour, no later.
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One hour.
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Speaker 1 (00)
See how
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we fold the nappy,
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step one,
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step two,
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Speaker 1 (00)
and step three.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Now, Angela,
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I'd like you to tell me and the students exactly what you feed
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your baby.
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Well,
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I breastfeed my baby most of the time.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Is there a Winnie -Maddie -Kizella here?
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Telephone call,
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important.
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Okay,
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Angela, carry on.
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I breastfeed my baby most of the time.
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Good morning,
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I give him a pet.
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Good morning,
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Speaker 1 (00)
I give him a pet.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Hello?
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Yes,
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speaking.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Who is that?
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Oh,
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Speaker 1 (00)
yes, pull the other one.
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Who is that?
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Come on, stop fooling around.
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I'm in the middle of a class.
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Who is it really?
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Oh,
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Sunday?
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Speaker 1 (00)
Yes.
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Speaker 1 (00)
What time?
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Just tell me to move.
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The mistress must have seen.
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Speaker 1 (00)
She did.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Mr Mandela,
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will you have my friend,
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Speaker 1 (00)
please? When can you call me,
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Mr Mandela?
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Speaker 1 (00)
You can call me anytime.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Nice day.
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Speaker 1 (00)
How are you?
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Speaker 1 (00)
Okay.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Will you call Mr Mandela?
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Speaker 1 (00)
I know it's urgent and I'll see you after you.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Will you speak for me,
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Speaker 1 (00)
Mr Mandela? I will speak for you.
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Speaker 1 (00)
I'll be more than happy to speak for you.
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Mr Mandela,
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will you help my friend,
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please? Yes, I will.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Can I come and see you?
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Speaker 1 (00)
I can imagine.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Here's what.
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Speaker 1 (00)
You call my office,
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Speaker 1 (00)
speak to my partner,
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Speaker 1 (00)
Oliver Temple.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Oh, thank you.
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Speaker 1 (00)
I'll call the office too,
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Speaker 1 (00)
shall I?
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Speaker 1 (00)
Have you...
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Speaker 1 (00)
I've eaten Indian food before.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Well,
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Speaker 1 (00)
you'll try it.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Just take it.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Not too much.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Here you go.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Try this.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Mr.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Mandela,
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sorry for the intrusion.
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Speaker 1 (00)
You see,
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Speaker 1 (00)
I've got a problem with my pass.
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Speaker 1 (00)
You're stamped 100 % correct.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Hey, this bastard.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Mr.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Mandela, thank God you are here.
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Speaker 1 (00)
They've just arrested my husband.
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Speaker 1 (00)
The Europeans eat him first,
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Speaker 1 (00)
I swear to you.
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S…
Speaker 1 (00)
Wait a moment.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Wait a minute.
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S…
Speaker 1 (00)
Who's here first?
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Speaker 1 (00)
But my husband is under arrest.
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Speaker 1 (00)
He's coming.
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Speaker 1 (00)
What does your name?
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Speaker 1 (00)
Mrs.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Pumelo.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Mrs.
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S…
Speaker 1 (00)
Pumelo.
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Speaker 1 (00)
You should call me tomorrow,
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Speaker 1 (00)
okay?
26:52
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Speaker 1 (00)
But it's coming before the magistrate tomorrow morning.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Mr.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Mandela, I want to report to the police first thing tomorrow morning.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Mr.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Mandela,
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Speaker 1 (00)
what should I do?
27:03
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Speaker 1 (00)
Mr.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Mandela, I've been charged with indecent behavior in Los Angeles.
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I wasn't drunk or anything.
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It's my sister, Mr.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Mandela.
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Speaker 1 (00)
It's my sister.
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Speaker 1 (00)
She's been married to this man for six years.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Now they want to reclassify him.
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Speaker 1 (00)
I don't know what to do.
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Speaker 1 (00)
I want you to go and see my partner all over Tambo.
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Speaker 1 (00)
There's my card.
27:21
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Speaker 1 (00)
You know how to...
27:22
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Speaker 1 (00)
Oh, here.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Sorry. It helps to take a little sip of water.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Mr.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Mandela, what about my purse?
27:29
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Speaker 1 (00)
Mr.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Mandela,
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can you be in court tomorrow morning?
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Speaker 1 (00)
I don't even know what my husband was doing.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Okay,
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Speaker 1 (00)
Mr.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Mandela, I'm going to admit it.
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Speaker 1 (00)
I hate it.
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Speaker 1 (00)
drinking in the street.
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Speaker 1 (00)
I didn't swear nothing.
27:47
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Speaker 1 (00)
Now what's indecent behavior got to do with it?
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Speaker 1 (00)
Will you tell me that I'll be phoning?
27:50
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Speaker 1 (00)
I tried all day yesterday and the phone was in cage.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Just, just come to my office.
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Speaker 1 (00)
You know where it is.
27:57
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Speaker 1 (00)
Just come and wait and I'll see you all individually,
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okay?
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Speaker 1 (00)
Did you
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Speaker 1 (00)
honestly think that it would surrender?
28:23
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Speaker 1 (00)
Did I think what would surrender,
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Speaker 1 (00)
my lord?
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Speaker 1 (00)
White supremacy.
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Speaker 1 (00)
White supremacy.
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Speaker 1 (00)
I'm not sure I understand the question,
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Speaker 1 (00)
my lord.
28:35
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Speaker 1 (00)
Oh, yes, you do.
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Speaker 1 (00)
You understand it very well.
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Speaker 1 (00)
With due respect,
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Speaker 1 (00)
my lord, can you put it to me again?
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I want to know whether you considered that white supremacy
28:45
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in South Africa would,
28:46
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Speaker 1 (00)
without a show of arms,
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Speaker 1 (00)
surrender that which,
28:49
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Speaker 1 (00)
if surrendered,
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Speaker 1 (00)
would mean its end.
28:51
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
That
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Speaker 1 (00)
was considered.
28:59
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
It was...
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Speaker 1 (00)
It was also considered that through our policy of exerting pressure,
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Speaker 1 (00)
we would force the whites by using our numbers,
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Speaker 1 (00)
our numerical preponderance,
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Speaker 1 (00)
to grant us what we demand even against their will.
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Speaker 1 (00)
And how would you use your numerical numbers to
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Speaker 1 (00)
force white supremacy to give you what you want?
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Speaker 1 (00)
For example,
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Speaker 1 (00)
by staying at home,
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Speaker 1 (00)
not going to work,
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Speaker 1 (00)
using our economic power for the purpose of attaining our demands.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Shall I tell you why I telephoned you?
30:03
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Speaker 1 (00)
Why I wanted to see you?
30:06
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Speaker 1 (00)
I wanted to ask you something
30:10
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Speaker 1 (00)
really important.
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Speaker 1 (00)
I'll come straight
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Speaker 1 (00)
to the point.
30:15
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Speaker 3 (00)
Will
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Speaker 1 (00)
you help raise money for the defendants
30:26
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Speaker 1 (00)
in the treason trial?
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Speaker 3 (00)
I
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Speaker 1 (00)
don't think anyone could resist you.
30:34
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Speaker 1 (00)
The problems are enormous,
30:37
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Speaker 1 (00)
of course.
30:38
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Speaker 1 (00)
We're out on bail,
30:39
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Speaker 1 (00)
but we haven't the time for that sort of thing.
30:41
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Speaker 1 (00)
And there are lawyers to be paid,
30:45
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Speaker 1 (00)
families to keep.
30:47
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Speaker 1 (00)
so on,
30:47
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
so on.
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Speaker 1 (00)
You understand?
30:52
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Speaker 1 (00)
And the trial will go on for years
30:56
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Speaker 1 (00)
and years.
30:57
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Speaker 1 (00)
You'll help,
31:00
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Speaker 1 (00)
won't you?
31:01
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Speaker 3 (00)
I know
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Speaker 1 (00)
you'll help.
31:07
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
Are you caught?
31:09
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Speaker 3 (00)
Did you
31:32
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Speaker 1 (00)
hurt yourself?
31:32
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Speaker 4 (00)
No, it's just my shoe.
31:34
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Speaker 3 (00)
I
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Speaker 1 (00)
think that the Defiance campaign had any effect at all on the government.
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Speaker 1 (00)
I think it had after the Defiance campaign.
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Speaker 1 (00)
The government began talking about self -government for Africans.
32:45
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Speaker 1 (00)
Bantu stands.
32:46
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Speaker 1 (00)
I think they acted in order to deceive.
32:48
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Speaker 1 (00)
But in spite of that deception,
32:49
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Speaker 1 (00)
one thing comes out very clearly,
32:51
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Speaker 1 (00)
and that is that they acknowledged the power of the Defiance campaign.
32:55
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Speaker 1 (00)
They felt the power of the ANC had tremendously increased.
32:59
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Speaker 2 (00)
Well, as a matter of fact...
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Speaker 2 (00)
Isn't your freedom a direct threat to the Europeans?
33:04
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Speaker 2 (00)
No,
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Speaker 1 (00)
it is not a direct threat to the Europeans.
33:06
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Speaker 1 (00)
We are not anti -white.
33:07
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Speaker 1 (00)
We are against white supremacy.
33:08
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Speaker 1 (00)
We have consistently preached the policy of race harmony,
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Speaker 1 (00)
and we have condemned racialism no matter by whom it is professed.
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Speaker 3 (00)
I sent
33:25
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Speaker 1 (00)
a friend to pick you up in a car.
33:26
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Speaker 4 (00)
I told him I'd rather walk.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Are you crazy?
33:30
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Speaker 1 (00)
There are gangs about you.
33:31
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Speaker 1 (00)
I have enough troubles at the moment without worrying about you.
33:34
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Speaker 4 (00)
It's such a lovely evening,
33:37
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Speaker 4 (00)
and I'm home now.
33:39
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Speaker 1 (00)
Just don't do it again.
33:40
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Speaker 4 (00)
I'm sorry.
33:43
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Speaker 1 (00)
By the way,
33:46
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Speaker 1 (00)
you know that woman who's a dressmaker?
33:49
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Speaker 1 (00)
I forget her name.
33:50
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Speaker 2 (00)
You know who I mean.
33:51
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Speaker 1 (00)
You must go and see her.
33:54
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Speaker 1 (00)
She'll make you a wedding gown.
33:56
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Speaker 3 (00)
A what?
33:59
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Speaker 1 (00)
You can decide on how many bridesmaids you want.
34:01
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Speaker 3 (00)
With
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Speaker 2 (00)
halfway in the finger and say after me,
34:36
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Speaker 2 (00)
with this ring,
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Speaker 2 (00)
I thee wed.
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Speaker 1 (00)
I thee wed.
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S…
Speaker 2 (00)
With my worldly goods,
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Speaker 2 (00)
I thee endow.
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Speaker 1 (00)
In the name of the Father,
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and of the Son,
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Speaker 1 (00)
and of the Holy Ghost.
34:54
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Speaker 2 (00)
Amen.
35:00
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Speaker 6 (00)
And now will the congregation rise.
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Speaker 6 (00)
Those
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whom God has joined together,
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let no man put asunder.
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Since Nelson and Winnie
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have consented to live together in holy wedlock,
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I now pronounce them to be man and wife
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in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost.
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Amen.
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Captain Hope,
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I need
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to see this.
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and the green hills and the sun setting.
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I don't know what I'd do if they
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put me.
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I know what I've
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Speaker 1 (00)
been meaning to ask you.
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Speaker 2 (00)
How much lobola did you pay for me?
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Speaker 4 (00)
You cannot ask me the son of a chip a question
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Speaker 3 (00)
like that.
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Speaker 3 (00)
Listen,
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Speaker 2 (00)
you being royalty doesn't impress me.
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Speaker 4 (00)
It's between your father and myself.
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You know the custom.
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A bride must never find out how much Lobola was paid for her.
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All I want to know is how much you think I'm worth.
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Speaker 2 (00)
How many cattle did you give for me?
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If I told either be flat,
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so I better shut up.
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I'll find out.
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I'm telling you.
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Speaker 4 (00)
You
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Speaker 4 (00)
see before you the happiest man in the world.
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Speaker 4 (00)
If only we didn't have to go.
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Speaker 2 (00)
We still have
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Speaker 2 (00)
another couple of days.
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Speaker 4 (00)
You got
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Speaker 4 (00)
married while I was out on bail.
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Speaker 1 (00)
I
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Speaker 2 (00)
wonder what the future holds.
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I wonder what our life will be like.
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Speaker 3 (00)
I can't know, so there's no point in asking.
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Speaker 8 (00)
I know one thing.
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Speaker 8 (00)
Life with you is life without you.
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Speaker 3 (00)
Don't say things like that.
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Speaker 3 (00)
And anyway,
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you're wrong.
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Speaker 3 (00)
And just to prove it,
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I'm going to take you with me on a honeymoon.
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Speaker 6 (00)
Honeymoon?
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Speaker 8 (00)
What honeymoon?
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Speaker 8 (00)
They gave us four days' permission to get married.
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Speaker 8 (00)
There is no time for a honeymoon.
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Speaker 3 (00)
You see,
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Speaker 3 (00)
you're wrong again.
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Speaker 3 (00)
And I'll tell you where we got to spend that honeymoon.
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Speaker 3 (00)
I'll be in the dock,
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Speaker 6 (00)
and you'll be in the morning.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Good morning.
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Speaker 5 (00)
We're asking you not to pick up the people for work today.
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Speaker 5 (00)
We're making a protest against the pass laws.
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Speaker 5 (00)
So please stand back.
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Speaker 2 (00)
And if I refuse?
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Speaker 5 (00)
If you refuse,
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Speaker 5 (00)
we're going to burn your pass.
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Speaker 5 (00)
And that will make trouble for you.
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Speaker 5 (00)
I hope we don't have to do that,
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Speaker 2 (00)
eh? Oh,
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Speaker 6 (00)
well. You
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Speaker 1 (00)
have to.
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Speaker 6 (00)
Hello.
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Speaker 3 (00)
Don't forget.
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Speaker 7 (00)
No work today.
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Speaker 7 (00)
We are going to protest against the pass laws.
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Speaker 7 (00)
We meet at the police station.
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Speaker 6 (00)
I'm going to
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Speaker 6 (00)
send
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Speaker 4 (00)
somebody down to talk to you about the pass laws,
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Speaker 1 (00)
okay?
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Speaker 2 (00)
Someone in authority,
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Speaker 1 (00)
I hope.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Top brass.
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Speaker 5 (00)
These people have been out...
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Speaker 6 (00)
They've got
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Speaker 4 (00)
rid of it, sir.
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Speaker 4 (00)
But I must tell you,
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Speaker 4 (00)
I'm surrounded.
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Speaker 4 (00)
They're smashing the fences.
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Speaker 4 (00)
Yes.
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Speaker 6 (00)
Yes.
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Speaker 4 (00)
Must be about 20 ,000 of them.
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Speaker 6 (00)
Oh,
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Speaker 4 (00)
yes. They're hostile,
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Speaker 2 (00)
all right.
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Speaker 4 (00)
Sticks.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Stones.
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Speaker 4 (00)
I would say I was under siege.
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Speaker 6 (00)
Okay.
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Speaker 4 (00)
Thanks.
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Speaker 4 (00)
Someone in authority.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Cheeky bastard.
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Speaker 3 (00)
We never see each other.
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Speaker 7 (00)
Of course we'll see each other again.
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Speaker 8 (00)
In Dar es Salaam,
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Speaker 1 (00)
maybe.
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Speaker 7 (00)
Or Accra.
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Speaker 6 (00)
Boss.
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Speaker 5 (00)
You've just seen me burn it.
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Speaker 5 (00)
And as president of the African National Congress.
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Speaker 4 (00)
The African National Congress is banned.
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Speaker 5 (00)
I am urging others to do the same in protest against the
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Speaker 5 (00)
murder of our people in Sharpeville.
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Speaker 4 (00)
You are under arrest.
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Speaker 6 (00)
The
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Speaker 2 (00)
Sharpeville police were provoked by a communist -inspired mob.
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Speaker 2 (00)
A state of emergency now exists throughout the country.
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Speaker 2 (00)
And I have issued orders banning the African National Congress.
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Speaker 2 (00)
Its leaders have already been imprisoned in Pretoria.
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Speaker 2 (00)
The past laws are to be reinforced.
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Speaker 2 (00)
And we are outlawing all those whose aim
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Speaker 2 (00)
it is to bring to its knees any white government in South Africa
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Speaker 2 (00)
which stands for white supremacy and white leadership.
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Speaker 2 (00)
They do not want peace.
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Speaker 2 (00)
What they want is our country.
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Speaker 2 (00)
We will not be altered in our course.
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Speaker 2 (00)
We will not repeal one single law.
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Speaker 2 (00)
We will not appoint a judicial commission of inquiry.
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Speaker 2 (00)
We are not going to give in to communists.
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Speaker 4 (00)
Is the minister saying that anyone opposed to the government's racialist policy is a communist?
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Speaker 2 (00)
If the hat fits,
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Speaker 6 (00)
we
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Speaker 1 (00)
tell them what we have to say.
54:53
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Speaker 1 (00)
We tell them when we get out of here,
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Speaker 1 (00)
we're going to fight.
54:56
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Speaker 3 (00)
No more peaceful protests.
54:57
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Speaker 3 (00)
We're going to get guns.
54:58
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Speaker 4 (00)
There's only one thing you are going to do.
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Speaker 1 (00)
and that is taking instructions from the executive committee.
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Speaker 1 (00)
What's executive committee?
55:04
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Speaker 1 (00)
The ANC is banned.
55:05
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Speaker 1 (00)
Haven't you heard?
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Speaker 1 (00)
They have detained 20 ,000 of us.
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Speaker 1 (00)
20 ,000,
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Speaker 1 (00)
Mr.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Sisulu.
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Speaker 1 (00)
That's 20 ,000 soldiers.
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Speaker 1 (00)
You tell them.
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Speaker 1 (00)
I'll say once more.
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Speaker 1 (00)
You will do nothing until the executive issues instructions.
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Speaker 1 (00)
There's only one instruction we need to hear.
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Speaker 1 (00)
You tell them.
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Speaker 1 (00)
We are
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Speaker 1 (00)
leaders elect.
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Speaker 1 (00)
a mint lead,
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Speaker 1 (00)
otherwise we have mob rule.
55:53
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Speaker 1 (00)
We say get guns,
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Speaker 1 (00)
grenades,
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Speaker 1 (00)
bombs,
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Speaker 1 (00)
and hit them hard.
55:57
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Speaker 1 (00)
Throughout all
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Speaker 1 (00)
these months, we have been considering all the options.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Like what?
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Speaker 1 (00)
Like sabotage.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Yes,
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Speaker 1 (00)
evil options.
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Speaker 1 (00)
And we say go.
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Speaker 1 (00)
How do you think they
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Speaker 1 (00)
will hit back like a Sunday school picnic?
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Speaker 1 (00)
Such
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Speaker 1 (00)
time
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Speaker 1 (00)
is to
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Speaker 1 (00)
be faced.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Yes,
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Speaker 1 (00)
I heard.
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Speaker 1 (00)
I
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Speaker 1 (00)
don't want to appear naive.
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Speaker 1 (00)
But what's that mean?
57:55
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Speaker 1 (00)
That don't
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Speaker 1 (00)
mean going underground.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Exactly.
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Speaker 1 (00)
If we have heard from Oliver in Dar es Salaam,
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Speaker 1 (00)
the ANC in exile now exists.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Oliver is beginning the job of enlisting support from all over the world.
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Speaker 1 (00)
It will be a long,
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Speaker 1 (00)
hard slog.
58:18
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Speaker 1 (00)
In the meantime,
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Speaker 1 (00)
I shall take care of ANC matters here as best I can.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Thank
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Speaker 1 (00)
you, Nelson.
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Speaker 1 (00)
What will you be doing?
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Speaker 1 (00)
The
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Speaker 1 (00)
court will riot.
58:44
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Speaker 1 (00)
This
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Speaker 1 (00)
long and complex trial is now coming to an end.
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Speaker 1 (00)
It is almost five years since you were first
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Speaker 1 (00)
brought before me,
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Speaker 1 (00)
and I shall now give judgment.
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Speaker 1 (00)
The prosecution has failed to prove that the ANC,
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Speaker 1 (00)
as a matter of policy,
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Speaker 1 (00)
intended to achieve a new society in South Africa by violent means.
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Speaker 1 (00)
There is also no proof that it had become a communist
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Speaker 1 (00)
organization or that it had been infiltrated by communists.
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Speaker 1 (00)
If you are found not guilty and discharged,
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Speaker 1 (00)
you may go.
1:00:14
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Speaker 1 (00)
Coming to see his girls.
1:00:15
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Speaker 1 (00)
Now just sit and don't mess
1:00:19
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Speaker 1 (00)
yourselves up.
1:00:19
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
Eh?
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Speaker 1 (00)
Come.
1:00:21
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Speaker 1 (00)
He needs
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Speaker 1 (00)
to get ready.
1:01:04
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Speaker 1 (00)
And all the time I was thinking,
1:01:06
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Speaker 1 (00)
did I really hear him say he was found not guilty?
1:01:10
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Speaker 1 (00)
Nelson!
1:01:11
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Speaker 1 (00)
Walter,
1:01:12
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Speaker 1 (00)
all of you,
1:01:12
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Speaker 1 (00)
listen to me.
1:01:13
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Speaker 1 (00)
I am giving the orders now,
1:01:15
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Speaker 1 (00)
and we are never going to be parted again.
1:01:17
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Speaker 1 (00)
Oh,
1:01:18
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Speaker 1 (00)
God, I am so happy.
1:01:20
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Speaker 1 (00)
I
1:01:25
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Speaker 1 (00)
meant to say,
1:01:26
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Speaker 1 (00)
just
1:01:33
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Speaker 1 (00)
pack a few things for me in a suitcase.
1:03:22
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Speaker 1 (00)
I didn't marry a man. I married a struggle.
1:06:43
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Speaker 1 (00)
on crutches out of middle ages whether they
1:06:53
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Speaker 1 (00)
like it or not introduced
1:07:14
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Speaker 1 (00)
apartheid in 1948 we called for demonstrations
1:07:18
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Speaker 1 (00)
with more
1:07:24
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Speaker 1 (00)
repressive legislation with killing and maiming our people
1:07:28
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Speaker 1 (00)
as the
1:07:32
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Speaker 1 (00)
defiance campaign leaders were
1:07:38
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Speaker 1 (00)
imprisoned and banned being forcibly
1:07:42
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Speaker 1 (00)
removed from their land peaceful marches
1:07:46
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Speaker 1 (00)
and meetings and how did they respond enforcing
1:07:52
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Speaker 1 (00)
the removal congress of the people
1:07:56
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Speaker 1 (00)
and how did they respond
1:08:00
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Speaker 1 (00)
156 people were charged with hype.
1:08:02
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
We called for one -day strikes and bus boycotts.
1:08:07
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Speaker 1 (00)
We burned our passes.
1:08:08
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
Did they resist killing
1:08:13
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
69 men,
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Speaker 1 (00)
women,
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Speaker 1 (00)
and children at Sharfield?
1:08:17
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Speaker 1 (00)
My brothers,
1:08:20
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Speaker 1 (00)
my sisters,
1:08:21
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Speaker 1 (00)
we have now the moral right to defend
1:08:25
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Speaker 1 (00)
ourselves.
1:08:26
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Speaker 1 (00)
Self -defense is a right.
1:08:28
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Speaker 3 (00)
We
1:08:37
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Speaker 1 (00)
shall fight the government by side with you.
1:08:40
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Speaker 1 (00)
Each by inch and mile by mile and three is one.
1:08:45
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Speaker 1 (00)
And what will you do?
1:08:46
S…
Speaker 3 (00)
Go along
1:08:55
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Speaker 1 (00)
with us, silent and neutral in this matter of life.
1:08:59
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Speaker 1 (00)
I
1:09:03
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Speaker 1 (00)
have made my choice.
1:09:06
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Speaker 1 (00)
Leave South
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Speaker 1 (00)
Africa,
1:09:11
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Speaker 1 (00)
nor will I surrender.
1:09:14
S…
Speaker 3 (00)
Makes
1:09:42
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Speaker 2 (00)
a speech telling the people to defend themselves.
1:09:44
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Speaker 2 (00)
Christ!
1:09:45
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Speaker 3 (00)
I know,
1:09:46
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Speaker 2 (00)
sir. Never mind about you bloody knowing,
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Speaker 2 (00)
one of all.
1:09:48
S…
Speaker 2 (00)
What the hell are you going to do about it?
1:09:50
S…
Speaker 2 (00)
You see what they're calling him?
1:09:51
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Speaker 2 (00)
The Black Pimpernel.
1:09:53
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Speaker 2 (00)
Making us a laughingstock.
1:09:55
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Speaker 2 (00)
I've got every available man looking for him,
1:09:58
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Speaker 2 (00)
sir. I'm not talking about looking.
1:10:02
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Speaker 1 (00)
We'll find him,
1:10:03
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
sir. You'd bloody better,
1:10:05
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Speaker 1 (00)
Swanepoor, or you'll be back on the beat for life.
1:10:08
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
I don't want any more of this black Pimpernel stuff.
1:10:11
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
Mr.
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S…
Speaker 1 (00)
Franks?
1:10:19
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Speaker 2 (00)
Ah,
1:10:20
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Speaker 2 (00)
how do you do?
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Speaker 2 (00)
Come this way,
1:10:21
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Speaker 2 (00)
it's number three.
1:10:22
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
Yeah,
1:10:31
S…
Speaker 2 (00)
there is access to the garden.
1:10:33
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
Yeah,
1:10:34
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Speaker 1 (00)
very nice.
1:10:35
S…
Speaker 2 (00)
It's a bachelor
1:10:40
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Speaker 2 (00)
flat, of course.
1:10:40
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
Yeah,
1:10:47
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Speaker 2 (00)
this is the bedroom.
1:10:49
S…
Speaker 2 (00)
Very good decorative condition.
1:10:52
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
I'll take
1:11:20
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Speaker 2 (00)
it. It's nicely furnished,
1:11:22
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Speaker 2 (00)
and of course the bed's...
1:11:23
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Speaker 1 (00)
I said I'll take it.
1:11:24
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
Come on,
1:11:44
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
David. Bring the bags.
1:11:46
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
David,
1:11:53
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
over here.
1:11:53
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
And hurry up,
1:11:55
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
hey? My
1:12:09
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Speaker 1 (00)
name's Benny.
1:12:09
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Speaker 1 (00)
Mine's Nelson.
1:12:12
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
Been
1:12:18
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Speaker 1 (00)
with us long.
1:12:18
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
A few
1:12:25
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Speaker 1 (00)
years. Well,
1:12:26
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Speaker 1 (00)
this is home sweet home.
1:12:28
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
I'm your nursemaid.
1:12:31
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
What's
1:12:43
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Speaker 1 (00)
the trouble?
1:12:43
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
Where do I sleep?
1:12:45
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
You sleep on the bed.
1:12:47
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
I sleep...
1:12:49
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
On this camp bed.
1:12:50
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
No.
1:12:53
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
You sleep in the bed.
1:12:55
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
I sleep on the camp bed.
1:12:56
S…
Speaker 1 (00)
Forgive me,
1:12:58
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Speaker 1 (00)
but that's ridiculous.
1:13:00
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Speaker 1 (00)
I'm four foot nothing.
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You're over six foot.
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It stands to reason.
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You have the bed.
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I have this.
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Listen,
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Benny. Yeah.
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I'm supposed to be one of the leaders of this organization.
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So,
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you better learn to take orders.
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Suddenly,
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I've lost faith in the leadership.
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I'm having the camp bed and no arguments.
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Nelson,
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what the hell are you doing?
1:13:46
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This is called running on the spot.
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Since I can't go out,
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I have to exercise somewhere.
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Do you know what time it is?
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It's not yet five.
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I do this for two hours every day.
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You get used to it.
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Two hours every day?
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And you're going to join me.
1:14:02
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No thanks.
1:14:03
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I never do any exercise.
1:14:04
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I don't want to die young.
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Come on,
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Billy.
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Two hours every day.
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And that's another order.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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He was
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supposed to be a man of compassion.
1:14:28
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You'll get used to it.
1:14:31
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You'll learn to love it.
1:14:32
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Speaker 1 (00)
What's that?
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You know your trouble.
1:14:36
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You've no sympathy for people more fortunate than yourself.
1:14:39
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Come on, let's go.
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Speaker 1 (00)
I had a sergeant like you in the army up north
1:14:45
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in the desert.
1:14:46
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Tough.
1:14:46
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Really tough.
1:14:48
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Speaker 1 (00)
Very pleasant.
1:14:51
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Speaker 1 (00)
We can talk.
1:14:53
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Get to know each other.
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Talk.
1:14:55
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I can hardly breathe.
1:14:57
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Why did you join the movement,
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Benny?
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It always interests me.
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You could have had an easy life.
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Would you believe for humanitarian purposes?
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Yes,
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I believe that.
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Benny,
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I want you to do me a favor.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Listen,
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I'm not doing press -ups or anything like that.
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Speaker 1 (00)
No,
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Speaker 5 (00)
no,
1:15:17
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Speaker 1 (00)
something else.
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Speaker 4 (00)
Wazalapa,
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look
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Speaker 3 (00)
yourself as beautiful as you can.
1:16:05
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An important personality wants to see you.
1:16:08
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Speaker 4 (00)
Ready?
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Look yourself.
1:18:35
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they go and ruin my makeup with that blindfold.
1:20:00
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Sharks have again been spotted off the beach at Durban.
1:20:03
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Speaker 2 (00)
The Coast Guard have been put on full alert.
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The government has still made no comment on the award of the Nobel Peace
1:20:10
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Prize to Chief Albert Lutuli.
1:20:11
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Chief Lutuli will soon be going to Oslo to receive the prize
1:20:15
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from the kingdom.
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No problems?
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Speaker 4 (00)
No problems.
1:20:22
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Speaker 6 (00)
Aye,
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Nelson.
1:20:31
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Speaker 1 (00)
Aye.
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Speaker 6 (00)
Is
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Speaker 4 (00)
this to be war,
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Speaker 4 (00)
then? No.
1:20:46
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Speaker 3 (00)
Self -defense.
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I think we have a moral right to defend ourselves.
1:20:51
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And how will that be demonstrated?
1:20:55
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Speaker 3 (00)
My guess is the decision will be for sabotage.
1:20:59
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Speaker 3 (00)
Government installations,
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symbolic targets,
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but not on any account loss of life.
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Speaker 4 (00)
You blow up a few buildings and you think that the government will surrender.
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Speaker 7 (00)
No,
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Chief. You know what we're aiming at.
1:21:13
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You want to undermine confidence.
1:21:15
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Speaker 3 (00)
Of course.
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Frighten our foreign capital,
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foreign investments.
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Hit the pocket.
1:21:20
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And maybe also hit the heart.
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Speaker 3 (00)
Exactly.
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Speaker 5 (00)
It's primitive,
1:21:53
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Nelson, but it'll work.
1:21:55
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Speaker 3 (00)
You've done a good job.
1:21:58
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Speaker 2 (00)
And you're still working on other devices.
1:22:02
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Speaker 8 (00)
Yes,
1:22:03
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Speaker 5 (00)
but this is the best so far.
1:22:04
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Speaker 6 (00)
For the
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minister.
1:24:42
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Speaker 1 (00)
And he has threatened me with the prime minister if we don't arrest
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Speaker 1 (00)
that communist bastard.
1:24:47
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Speaker 1 (00)
I am threatening you with being back on the beat
1:24:52
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Speaker 1 (00)
if we don't catch the bugger.
1:24:53
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Speaker 1 (00)
The one
1:24:59
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with him.
1:25:00
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That's Oliver Tambo,
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head of the bloody ANC in exile.
1:25:04
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Speaker 1 (00)
And do you know where that picture's taken?
1:25:06
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In Addis,
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bloody Ababa.
1:25:08
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Speaker 1 (00)
And do you know where that is?
1:25:10
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That's in bloody Ethiopia.
1:25:12
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Speaker 1 (00)
And that means he's not talking to the emperor,
1:25:15
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highly bloody Selassie,
1:25:17
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but to the terrorists,
1:25:19
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Speaker 1 (00)
the bloody communist terrorists.
1:25:21
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Speaker 1 (00)
This is Algeria.
1:25:25
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Speaker 1 (00)
That's where the Reds were fighting the frogs.
1:25:29
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Speaker 1 (00)
The Reds won.
1:25:30
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Speaker 1 (00)
So Mandela's not talking to the frogs.
1:25:35
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And here he is in bloody London,
1:25:37
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Speaker 1 (00)
talking to the Liberal Party and the Labour Party.
1:25:40
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Speaker 1 (00)
And that means even more bloody communists.
1:25:42
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Speaker 1 (00)
All we need now is to find him in America,
1:25:46
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talking to Bobby bloody Kennedy.
1:25:48
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Speaker 1 (00)
And you have the whole bloody communist conspiracy.
1:25:51
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Speaker 1 (00)
I want Mandela.
1:25:55
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Speaker 1 (00)
He's getting arms and aid
1:25:59
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and talking to conferences and Christ knows what.
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Speaker 1 (00)
May you circulate his picture to
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Speaker 1 (00)
every man on the force.
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Speaker 1 (00)
And the moment he sets foot in this country again.
1:26:12
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Speaker 2 (00)
Keep going,
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Nelson.
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And then turn right.
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It's called Lillisley Farm.
1:26:19
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Speaker 2 (00)
There.
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Speaker 5 (00)
It's a safe house.
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And when I say safe,
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I mean safe.
1:26:30
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Speaker 2 (00)
Who
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came
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from a land across the sea.
1:28:25
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But we fought our great little
1:28:29
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bear.
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Who
1:28:45
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Speaker 3 (00)
gave himself up because he wanted to end the
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slot.
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Speaker 4 (00)
Shall I tell you something?
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Speaker 2 (00)
You
1:29:38
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Speaker 2 (00)
are in hiding.
1:29:39
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Speaker 4 (00)
Onaran,
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Speaker 4 (00)
the most wanted man in South Africa.
1:29:46
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Speaker 4 (00)
This is the nearest
1:29:50
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to normal family life I have ever known.
1:30:02
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Speaker 5 (00)
Get off,
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Speaker 2 (00)
son. Mandela's in the car.
1:30:36
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Speaker 4 (00)
Surround the car.
1:30:37
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Speaker 2 (00)
Get him up.
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Speaker 2 (00)
Lillian,
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Speaker 2 (00)
I'm off home now.
1:30:46
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Speaker 5 (00)
Bye,
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Speaker 1 (00)
Lillian.
1:30:49
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Speaker 4 (00)
Say love.
1:30:50
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Speaker 5 (00)
Tomorrow
1:30:54
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Speaker 2 (00)
morning I'm teaching at the antenatal clinic,
1:30:56
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Speaker 2 (00)
so I'll be in late.
1:30:57
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Speaker 5 (00)
Is he
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Speaker 1 (00)
all right?
1:31:26
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Speaker 7 (00)
Yes,
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Speaker 2 (00)
but we think he'll be appearing in the Johannesburg court tomorrow.
1:31:32
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Speaker 5 (00)
My
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Speaker 1 (00)
soul.
1:31:46
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Speaker 8 (00)
Nelson Mandela,
1:31:49
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Speaker 8 (00)
you have been found guilty on both counts.
1:31:53
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Speaker 8 (00)
On the first count,
1:31:54
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Speaker 8 (00)
that of inciting strikes,
1:31:56
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Speaker 8 (00)
you are sentenced to three years imprisonment with hard labor.
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Speaker 8 (00)
On the second count,
1:32:01
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Speaker 8 (00)
that of leaving the country without valid travel documents,
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Speaker 8 (00)
two years with hard labor.
1:32:06
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Speaker 5 (00)
You
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Speaker 1 (00)
bloody lucky.
1:32:37
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Speaker 1 (00)
It's up to me,
1:32:38
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Speaker 1 (00)
I'd have topped you.
1:32:39
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Speaker 1 (00)
Don't you worry.
1:32:42
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Speaker 1 (00)
I'm going to tie you into terrorism.
1:32:44
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Speaker 1 (00)
Oh yeah,
1:32:46
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Speaker 1 (00)
make no mistake.
1:32:46
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Speaker 1 (00)
You get evidence.
1:32:48
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Speaker 2 (00)
I'd like to leave now,
1:32:51
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Speaker 1 (00)
please.
1:32:51
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Speaker 5 (00)
In
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Speaker 2 (00)
case you want to confess.
1:33:04
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Speaker 1 (00)
You start your sentence with a bit of solitary,
1:33:06
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Speaker 1 (00)
just to collect your thoughts.
1:33:08
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Speaker 5 (00)
Can
1:33:53
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Speaker 2 (00)
I help you?
1:33:53
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Speaker 6 (00)
Oh,
1:33:54
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Speaker 4 (00)
what?
1:33:55
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Speaker 3 (00)
Extension 107,
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Speaker 1 (00)
please.
1:33:57
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Speaker 2 (00)
One moment,
1:33:59
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Speaker 1 (00)
please.
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Speaker 1 (00)
107,
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Speaker 3 (00)
yes. I will only speak to Lieutenant Swanepo.
1:34:05
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Speaker 1 (00)
Who's speaking?
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Speaker 3 (00)
Lillysleaf Farm,
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Speaker 3 (00)
Rivonia.
1:34:10
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Speaker 1 (00)
If you
1:34:14
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Speaker 3 (00)
want the ANC High Command,
1:34:16
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Speaker 3 (00)
go to Lillysleaf Farm at Rivonia.
1:34:18
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Speaker 5 (00)
I want
1:34:55
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Speaker 2 (00)
this place search from top to bottom.
1:34:56
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Speaker 4 (00)
Yes, sir.
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Speaker 6 (00)
Lose,
1:35:02
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Speaker 3 (00)
courage, everything.
1:35:03
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Speaker 2 (00)
Albertina's
1:36:20
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Speaker 3 (00)
fine. Winnie's fine too.
1:36:21
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Speaker 3 (00)
Nelson,
1:36:22
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Speaker 2 (00)
I
1:36:32
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Speaker 1 (00)
don't know how much you know.
1:36:33
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Speaker 1 (00)
I'm wrong.
1:36:34
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Speaker 5 (00)
I know about Rivonia.
1:36:36
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Speaker 5 (00)
I know they say they faunt him.
1:36:38
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Speaker 5 (00)
Nobody
1:36:46
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Speaker 4 (00)
knows, but there have been leaks to the press.
1:36:47
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Speaker 1 (00)
Look, you can all be certain of one thing.
1:36:50
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Speaker 1 (00)
You're all going to be charged with being involved in sabotage and
1:36:54
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Speaker 1 (00)
guerrilla warfare.
1:36:55
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Speaker 3 (00)
We never decided on guerrilla warfare.
1:36:57
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Speaker 3 (00)
On the contrary,
1:36:58
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Speaker 3 (00)
our policy was not to endanger human life.
1:37:01
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Speaker 1 (00)
Okay.
1:37:01
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Speaker 1 (00)
But as sure as you're sitting there,
1:37:03
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Speaker 1 (00)
they're going to say you wanted to bring down the government by violent revolution.
1:37:06
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Speaker 4 (00)
And in your case,
1:37:07
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Speaker 4 (00)
Nelson, I'm sure they're going to say that your trip abroad was to raise funds for the struggle.
1:37:11
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Speaker 1 (00)
Yes.
1:37:11
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Speaker 1 (00)
And of course,
1:37:13
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Speaker 1 (00)
communism is bound to come into it somewhere.
1:37:16
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Speaker 1 (00)
There's no point trying to bluff ourselves.
1:37:19
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Speaker 1 (00)
Whatever the charges,
1:37:21
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Speaker 1 (00)
they're going to carry the death penalty.
1:37:24
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Speaker 1 (00)
The government wants a hanging.
1:37:34
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Speaker 1 (00)
We've got a hell of a fight on our hands.
1:37:35
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Speaker 1 (00)
What I suggest is we attack each
1:37:39
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Speaker 1 (00)
charge in detail.
1:37:41
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Speaker 1 (00)
My information is there may be as many as 200 separate
1:37:45
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Speaker 1 (00)
allegations of sabotage.
1:37:46
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Speaker 7 (00)
Obviously,
1:37:48
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Speaker 5 (00)
I haven't had a chance to discuss this with the others.
1:37:50
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Speaker 5 (00)
But I'll tell you what I feel.
1:37:52
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Speaker 5 (00)
I think we have a wonderful opportunity.
1:37:56
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Speaker 5 (00)
I don't think we should fight them on
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Speaker 5 (00)
legal grounds.
1:38:01
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Speaker 2 (00)
Nelson,
1:38:03
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Speaker 1 (00)
we're talking about the death penalty.
1:38:05
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Speaker 1 (00)
We must defend you on legal grounds.
1:38:07
S…
Speaker 5 (00)
No. If they want to hang us,
1:38:09
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Speaker 5 (00)
they'll hang us.
1:38:10
S…
Speaker 5 (00)
So let's make the best to have to turn this into a
1:38:14
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Speaker 5 (00)
political trial.
1:38:15
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Speaker 3 (00)
We have also been talking about this,
1:38:17
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Speaker 1 (00)
Brahm.
1:38:18
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Speaker 3 (00)
And I think I can say that we are 100 % behind Nelson.
1:38:22
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Speaker 3 (00)
This is a chance to use the court as a platform to
1:38:26
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Speaker 3 (00)
make known what we believe in.
1:38:27
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Speaker 3 (00)
And we will be talking to the whole world.
1:38:29
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Speaker 3 (00)
We can defy the government in open court.
1:38:32
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Speaker 3 (00)
We can speak with pride.
1:38:33
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Speaker 5 (00)
We can explain why we were driven to do what we did.
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Speaker 5 (00)
We've got nothing to be ashamed of.
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Speaker 5 (00)
We had no alternative.
1:38:40
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Speaker 5 (00)
That's what I want to say.
1:38:41
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Speaker 3 (00)
And I think we should go further.
1:38:43
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Speaker 3 (00)
We should say that we want to bring the government down and tell them why.
1:38:47
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Speaker 7 (00)
Agreed.
1:38:48
S…
Speaker 5 (00)
I think we should say,
1:38:52
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Speaker 7 (00)
yes,
1:38:53
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Speaker 5 (00)
because, yes,
1:38:55
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Speaker 5 (00)
I went abroad to get help for the struggle.
1:38:57
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Speaker 5 (00)
Our only defense is attack.
1:38:59
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Speaker 5 (00)
It's no good fighting them in law.
1:39:02
S…
Speaker 5 (00)
We have to fight them politically,
1:39:04
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Speaker 5 (00)
not on their terms.
1:39:06
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Speaker 2 (00)
That's
1:39:14
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Speaker 1 (00)
like putting the noose around your own necks.
1:40:21
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Speaker 1 (00)
Immediately with the question of violence.
1:40:24
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Speaker 1 (00)
We came to the conclusion that without violence,
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Speaker 1 (00)
there would be no way open to the African people to succeed in their struggle
1:40:31
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against the principle of white supremacy.
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All lawful modes of expressing opposition to this principle
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had been closed by legislation and we were placed in a position in
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which we had either to accept the permanent state of inferiority or
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to defy the government.
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We chose to defy the law.
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Another of the allegations made by the state is that the aims and
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objects of the ANC and the Communist Party are the same.
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I wish to deal with this.
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It is true that there is often been close cooperation
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between the ANC and the Communist Party.
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But cooperation is merely proof of a common goal.
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In this case,
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the removal of white supremacy.
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The history of the world is full of similar examples.
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Perhaps the most striking example is to be found in the cooperation
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between Great Britain,
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the United States of America,
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and the Soviet Union in the fight against Hitler.
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Nobody but Hitler would have dared to suggest that such cooperation
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turned Churchill or Roosevelt into communists,
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or that Britain and America were working to bring about a communist world.
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I have never been a member of the Communist Party.
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Communists regard the parliamentary systems of the West
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as being undemocratic and reactionary.
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But,
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on the contrary,
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I'm an admirer of such a system.
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I have great respect for British political institutions.
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I regard the British Parliament as the most democratic institution
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in the world.
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The American Congress,
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that country's doctrine of separation of power,
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as well as the independence of the judiciary,
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arouse in me similar sentiments.
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During my lifetime,
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I have dedicated myself to this struggle
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of the African.
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I have fought against white domination,
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and I have fought against black domination.
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I have cherished the ideal of
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a democratic and free society.
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in which all persons live together in harmony and
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with equal opportunity.
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It is an ideal
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which I hope to live for and to achieve,
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but if needs be,
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it is an ideal for which I
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am prepared to die.
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The
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crime of which the accused have been convicted is in essence one
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of high treason.
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The state has decided not to charge the crime in this form.
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Bearing this in mind and giving the matter very serious consideration,
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I have decided not to impose the supreme penalty.
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Consistent with my duty,
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this is the only leniency I can show.
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The sentence in the case of all the accused will
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be one of life imprisonment.
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Mrs. Winnie Mandela,
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who went for five years to Orlando Township near Johannesburg,
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has had additional restrictions imposed on her by the South African government.
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Mrs.
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Mandela is the wife of the imprisoned South African leader Nelson Mandela.
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These restrictions prevent her from writing or publishing articles and books.
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Her husband is serving a life sentence on Robben Island.
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Mrs.
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Winnie Mandela,
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the wife of the imprisoned black South African leader Nelson Mandela,
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is becoming an increasingly important political figure in her own right.
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Although banned by the government and prevented from speaking publicly,
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she is,
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according to reliable sources,
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active in keeping alive her husband's name.
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And in her work with young people,
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she is frequently charged with violating her banning order.
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She is allowed two visits a year to her husband.
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Mrs. Mandela,
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you can come now.
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But I must remind you to talk about your family and the children.
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That's all.
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I know.
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I have been coming here for almost five years.
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Don't be cheeky.
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You mustn't say anything that's political.
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And if there's something in your conversation that we doesn't understand,
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we shall cut your visit.
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Who
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are you?
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How
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are you?
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Who is
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Nikki? She's my sister.
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She's been ill.
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Okay.
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They
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send love.
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I am
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in solitary confinement.
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I keep myself sane by composing letters
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in my mind to you.
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This is my third month.
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I am well.
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You mustn't worry about me.
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I live for the day when we will be together again.
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The children are being looked after by our
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loving friends and family.
1:54:01
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I am well.
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You mustn't worry.
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Although I always try to put on a brave face.
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Few things disorganize my whole life as much as
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this kind of hardship.
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Even
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after how long is it?
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Nearly a year in that dreadful place and
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drank some coffee.
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After which I dust this on my book.
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I started with that of Zini.
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Then lastly yours,
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my darling mom.
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Dust it.
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Every morning to do so gives me the pleasant
1:54:51
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feeling that I am caressing you as in the old days.
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I even touch your nose with mine to capture the electric curve that
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you...
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to flush through my blood whenever I do so.
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This is my 14th month in solitary confinement.
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I write to you in my mind every day.
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I am fine.
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The children are fine.
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Don't worry about us.
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I love you.
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I long for you.
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I
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think this is my 14th month.
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Speaker 1 (00)
How does
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Danbo get his instructions to you?
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Who is the go
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-between?
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Come on,
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come on.
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You've got a lot to tell me.
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Let
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me swallow
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my hands
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and feet and
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swollen ears.
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Give
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me some inheritance if you're going to pop it.
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You can't
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go with all that information.
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I
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keep myself sane by looking for ants.
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Any living thing.
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By holding conversations with
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the children.
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who are not here and by
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writing these letters in my mind I have
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been so hardened by this experience that
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at the end of my interrogation if my own
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father walked in dangling a gun and he was on the other side
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then if I had a gun too in
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defense of the ideals for which I was being tortured I
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would fire
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When I am released,
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and if,
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on my return,
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I found you away from home,
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I'd seek you out and report to you first.
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For that honor is yours and yours alone.
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How
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long is it since I've seen you,
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darling mom?
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One year and four months,
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one half
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hour visit,
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and one letter every six months is a cruel and degrading
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ration in your
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visits.
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The last time,
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you had lost a bit of weight.
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Nonetheless,
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you looked well and highly seductive with your earrings
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hanging down to your breasts.
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I wanted to kiss the glass partition at the
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end of that visit.
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I love you.
1:59:02
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I
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am beginning my 17th
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month in solitary.
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I keep myself sane
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by writing these letters.
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Speaker 1 (00)
I am well.
1:59:26
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The children are being looked after.
1:59:30
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You mustn't worry about me.
1:59:34
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Speaker 1 (00)
I wish
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I could get letters from you.
1:59:43
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Speaker 1 (00)
Just one would
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reconstruct my shattered soul and
1:59:51
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restore it to my fate.
1:59:54
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I have no news.
2:00:00
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They am well.
2:00:02
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They're children.
2:00:05
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Winnie's
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out.
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Thank God.
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17 months in solitary.
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And then they go and renew her banning order for another five years.
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They've given a house to rest at nights and at weekends.
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She's not allowed visitors.
2:00:46
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But the word is,
2:00:49
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and the children are well.
2:00:52
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That's the best news we've had in a long time.
2:01:02
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she won't keep quiet for long she'll be in trouble again she's strong
2:01:06
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they are stronger than we are nelson happy
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today
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and i'm really feeling confident for the future
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the lord
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he that believeth in me
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though he were dead yet shall
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he live and whosoever liveth and believeth
2:03:58
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in me shall never die i
2:04:02
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know that my redeemer liveth
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and that he shall stand at the later day upon
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the earth, and though after my skin worms
2:04:15
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destroy this body,
2:04:17
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yet in my flesh shall I see
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God, whom I shall see for myself,
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and mine eyes shall behold,
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and not another.
2:04:29
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We brought nothing into this world,
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and it is certain...
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We can carry nothing out.
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Praise ye the Lord.
2:04:41
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Man that is born of a woman
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hath but a short time to live and is full of misery.
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He that cometh up and is cut down like
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a flower, he fleeth as it were a
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shadow and never...
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Continueth in one day.
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In the midst of
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life we are in death.
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Of whom may we seek forsaker,
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but of the Lord,
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the maker and the creator of everything.
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May his name be
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praised.
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He is the giver and
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he takes.
2:05:28
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Thank be to God.
2:05:31
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He knows
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everything.
2:05:38
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He understands our suffering.
2:05:46
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He will not leave us alone.
2:05:49
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His name may be praised.
2:05:52
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Children
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by the
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police who open fire without
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warning.
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We cry against these
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killings.
2:06:53
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What was the protest in
2:06:57
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Soweto about?
2:06:58
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It was about our children,
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our little ones,
2:07:04
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refusing to learn Afrikaans,
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the language of the oppressors.
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Afrikaans is not their language.
2:07:14
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So why must they learn it?
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And if they must learn Afrikaans,
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then the minister should learn Zulu.
2:07:25
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The
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world calls
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for this
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carnage to stop brothers
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and sisters from their prisons.
2:07:50
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And I bring you messages of love
2:07:55
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from our leaders inside those prisons.
2:07:58
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I bring you deep sympathy.
2:08:02
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From the families who share with you the pain of
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our country.
2:08:07
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Stimony,
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solution
2:08:22
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Speaker 1 (00)
of country's problems lies in
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these blackheads.
2:08:28
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Speaker 1 (00)
Is our country in
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the same way that
2:08:36
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you have had to bury our loved ones today,
2:08:41
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our children?
2:08:42
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Speaker 1 (00)
So shall the blood of these little
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heroes we bury today be avenged.
2:08:50
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We are here.
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to tell you that the day is not far
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when we shall lead you.
2:10:02
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The suitcase.
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Never mind the suitcase.
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We're packing the lot.
2:10:05
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You're under arrest.
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What do you mean you're packing the lot?
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Get out of here!
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Don't make any trouble.
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Just do as you're called.
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Come get dressed.
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No!
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What do you think you are doing?
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Go now!
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Please!
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You
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have been banished to Brownfork in the Orange Free State.
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Food sick!
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Get out of my house,
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all of you!
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Come on! You'll be informed of your rights!
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You are prohibited from attending within the Republic of South
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Africa any gathering,
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any social gathering,
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Being within any Bantu area,
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you are prohibited from performing any of the following
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acts.
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Preparing,
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compiling,
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printing,
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publishing,
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disseminating or transmitting in any manner whatsoever
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any publications.
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Communicating in any manner whatsoever with
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any person whose name appears on any list in the custody
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of the officers.
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Receiving at the said residential premises any visitor other than
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a medical practitioner,
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your children are not even...
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This is
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not a holiday resort!
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And
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the children.
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Reports from
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South Africa indicate that the imprisoned black South African leader,
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Nelson Mandela,
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has been moved from Robben Island,
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where he has been serving a life sentence.
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He is to continue to serve that sentence on the mainland at Palsmore,
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a high -security prison near Cape Town.
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This way,
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please.
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It is not known whether the conditions of his imprisonment will be relaxed.
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His wife,
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Mrs. Winnie Mandela,
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who has been banished to Brandford in the Orange Free State,
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has been allowed only strictly regulated visits,
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and has had no physical contact with her husband since he began his sentence 22
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years ago.
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Protests against the life imprisonment of Mr.
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Nelson Mandela,
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the black South African leader,
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have been made in several countries in recent weeks.
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Marches in Washington,
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London and other European capitals have been calling for Mr.
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Mandela's release.
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As the pressure builds,
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sources close to the South African government believe that the state president,
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Mr. P .W.
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Berta, will shortly be making a statement.
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The government is willing
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to consider Mr.
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Mandela's release on condition that Mr.
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Mandela gives a commitment that he will not make himself guilty of
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planning.
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instigating or committing acts of violence for the furtherance of political
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objectives.
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The choice is his.
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Have you
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made up your mind yet?
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Speaker 5 (00)
Paul,
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not to accept our state president's offer and get the hell out of you,
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Mr. Mandela.
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Speaker 3 (00)
Nobody expects you to
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do more than you've already done.
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Speaker 3 (00)
A third of your life.
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Speaker 3 (00)
Nobody will blame you if you grab
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Speaker 3 (00)
your freedom now.
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Speaker 5 (00)
You've
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Speaker 3 (00)
done all that a man can do.
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Speaker 5 (00)
You should
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Speaker 3 (00)
go now.
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Speaker 1 (00)
Go.
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Maybe with your wife.
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with your children and grandchildren.
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You're entitled to that,
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aren't you?
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A
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South African government spokesman said today that no reply to President P .W.
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Bota's offer has yet been received from Nelson Mandela,
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the imprisoned ANC leader.
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Our Southern Africa correspondent reports that Mrs.
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Winnie Mandela,
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together with her lawyer,
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is due to meet her husband any day now,
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and she is expected to make Mr.
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Mandela's response public.
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The visit will take place in Palsmore,
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the maximum security prison near Cape Town.
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Mr.
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Mandela has served 24 years of his life sentence.
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I reply,
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State President P
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.W.
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Bota, tell the people.
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But
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he hopes he speaks for all those in jail for their opposition
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to apartheid,
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suffer under apartheid,
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all those who are oppressed and exploited in
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the
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National Congress.
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My father says,
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at the conditions the government wants
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to impose on me,
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I'm not a violent man.
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It was only when all other forms of resistance were
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no longer open to us that we turned to the armed struggle.
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Speaker 6 (00)
Let Botha renounce.
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Speaker 6 (00)
Let him say that he will dismantle
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Speaker 6 (00)
apartheid.
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Speaker 6 (00)
I cherish
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Speaker 2 (00)
my own freedom dearly.
2:20:16
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I care even more about your freedom.
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Too many have died since
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I went to prison.
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Too many have suffered for the love of freedom.
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Less life loving than
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you or the
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birthright or not
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give any undertaking.
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at a time when I and you,
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your freedom.
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