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Good morning,
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ma 'am.
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Good morning.
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Okay.
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I'm Dr.
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Mutu Koryad -Otun and Whitney here is Dr.
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Adaw Goji.
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And so we are here to ask you some questions.
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And this question has to do with the UPTH
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strategic plan for 2026 to 2030.
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And just a way to develop the facility and to
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have a plan that we run throughout this period.
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And I want to let us a conversation,
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maybe brief as much as possible.
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And I'm seeking your consent to record.
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And I would like to have your consent to record.
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Okay,
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so thank you very much.
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And so I'll start by asking you
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for your name.
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Also, I want you to introduce yourself to us.
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I'm Dr.
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Belema Manuel.
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I'm the President's Head of the Department of Radiology.
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Thank you very much.
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How long have you been the HOD of this department?
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so that's just about eight months nine months thereabouts okay
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thank you very much and then so i will allow the product
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to do the interview to go ahead to the interview now okay so
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um what are the major bottlenecks affecting clinical
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service delivery in your department okay one of the
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major bottlenecks that we have right now is mostly
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to do with equipment
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and then stuffing.
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If we have more,
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for example,
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let me use ultrasound.
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We only have one ultrasound machine,
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which is not even ours.
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It actually belongs to the Renault unit.
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So we actually have it like on loan.
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So, if we have only one ultrasound machine,
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that means that it's only one patient that can be attended to at a time.
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If we have at least four,
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that means that we can see four patients at the same time,
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within the same frame of time,
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and that means that we can see more patients during the day.
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So,
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if we have 20 patients for the day,
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imagine 20 patients waiting for one machine,
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there's 20 patients waiting for four machines.
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So,
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the waiting time drastically changes.
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And also the number of staff.
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For example,
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even if we get the phone machines,
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you will need people to man the phone machines at the same
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time.
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So this is also another issue that we are also having.
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Okay.
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Which services are overstretched,
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underutilized,
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or need expansion?
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Okay.
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Overstretched.
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Definitely ultrasound is overstretched.
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For expansion,
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like for example,
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right now we don't have a mobile x -ray.
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What we have for the mobile x -ray is not functioning right now.
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So patients in IC,
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if we have,
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we can't go and do chest x -rays for them.
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Patients on traction in orthopedic port,
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we can't do x -rays for them.
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So that is a place that we need expansion.
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Under -utilization,
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I don't think we have that problem right now.
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But these are the two main things.
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For this,
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we have restarted the MRI.
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We're working towards bringing CT back up.
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So once those ones come up,
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we'll now see where we go from there.
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So it's over -utilization that we have.
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With the ultrasound.
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And the need for expansion.
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Yes,
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definitely.
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So what practical changes will most improve efficiency and
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quality of equipment?
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Definitely,
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everything still boils down to both the
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equipment and the human factor.
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Also,
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light.
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power but we have the solar now so we are seeing some improvement
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today because this is a radiology department it works with lights
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it's not like some of the clinical departments you can still
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do some things you can do wardrobes even if there's no light the natural light
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will still allow you to work but here the machines are not working they
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can't do anything
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Another issue we also have concerning bottlenecks.
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Another bottleneck is reports,
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giving of reports.
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Because after the investigations are done,
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what the patient wants,
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the sign that they actually did the investigation is a
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report.
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And we don't have enough systems to...
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make those reports.
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We have a number of staff,
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which also everybody always asks for more staff,
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but we actually need more systems so that we
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can utilize the only staff we have.
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Because now you have maybe about...
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three systems to import x -ray
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and ultrasound and everything so
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that means that if one person is using this system
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That is only one report.
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If there are three systems,
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that means only three reports are there written at any given point in time.
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But if you have more systems,
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that means more reports can go.
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So we can shorten the time between when the investigation is
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done and when the report is given to the patient.
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For example,
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in ultrasound now,
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if you are willing to tell the patients to go and come back maybe an hour for
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themselves because did we actually have steps to mitigate
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any issues?
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to make sure that the report you are given is your proper report.
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So you have steps.
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The report is typed.
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The report is verified.
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The document goes through what was written before it is printed,
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before it is now signed.
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So the process of signing,
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we are going to still reread what was printed.
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So all of that takes time.
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But you can imagine a situation where it is only one person typing because
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there's only one system to type it instead of three or four people
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typing.
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so that that way you're producing more reports and then you can move
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faster you need more systems for production of reports
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more printers another thing too even the those two or three systems i'll
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show you one printer so it's more like okay you have printed which
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i need let me bring the flash let me print here so this
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adds to the time factor although
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you did talk about staffing
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What could you say the critical staffing cap is?
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The critical,
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very critical.
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Everybody is critical.
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One thing I've realized working in a radiology department is,
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you know,
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we like to say,
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you know,
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that,
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oh, the people at the top or the people at the bottom and all of that.
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But I've not realized working especially in a radiology department is that every
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step is important.
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Because once you have a break,
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some more.
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you will now realize that your whole system collapses.
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Because for example now,
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even if now the department gives me four ultrasound machines and I
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only have one person typing,
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there will still be a backlog.
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Now it will now not be a backlog of attending to patients,
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it will be a backlog of getting reported.
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Which is still part of the system.
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If I say get me more x -ray equipment and I only
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have two radiographs,
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demand four machines,
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then the machines are under interest.
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If I say,
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okay, get me more radiographers,
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get me more radiographers,
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I have more,
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you know,
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machines, they're utilizing me.
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Now, my extra assistants,
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and then my,
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what do they call this,
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my records people,
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I only have two.
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They will work,
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that's the place they can work at.
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So you will now have one pad,
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the system will now hang at that point.
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So these are the things.
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So I can't,
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I don't think it to be fair for me to say that this one is more important
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than this because I've realized it's really working here.
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Any step that is ignored will throw your whole process
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off.
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That will now be your bottleneck.
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Then everything will hang at that.
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So generally,
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but right now the main shortages that we say are for the
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radiographers,
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the radiologists,
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especially the residents.
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We have a short change of residence now because we've had a lot of success in
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our exams.
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Congratulations.
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Thank you so much.
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We have a new consultant.
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Just this time.
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Okay.
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And we have a new fellow.
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We are happy for that.
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But that now means that the bottom.
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Yeah.
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Top heavy bottom.
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Even the top.
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People are retiring.
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People are leaving.
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People make it even the top a bit light.
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Then for the radiographers,
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a lot of people are leaving for greener pastures.
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So the radiographer number has fallen drastically,
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let me say in the past two years.
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Then, funnily enough,
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I know it's not what most people complain about,
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but we have a serious shortage of health assistance cleaners.
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This department is actually divided into two.
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Where you are,
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right, is the main department.
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We have an annex.
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And so now,
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we now need people to clean all of this.
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And places like ultrasound,
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as we are working.
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A cleaner needs to be there to keep up.
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Even when we do specials or procedures,
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somebody has to be there.
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But in the process of working,
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patients weigh on themselves,
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patients may vomit,
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you know,
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fluid might be spilled,
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we need to change sheets.
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So somebody has to be on the ground for that.
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So it's not a matter of cleaning,
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I'm going to sit somewhere.
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And there are many rooms,
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so you need more cleaners.
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The cleaners we have are barely cooking.
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They are really trying,
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but I know that they are barely cooking.
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This is,
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I'm talking about the main work.
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This does not include offices and corridors and toilets.
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I'm just talking about where the work is actually taking place.
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So cleaners is actually one place.
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We really need a lot more people in this department.
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Well,
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I think you've mentioned some of these things.
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I think what we need here for motivation
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is when they are motivated that you tend to retain them.
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I'm not even going to go into money because that one is beyond,
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you know,
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but I think everybody wants to be appreciated.
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They want to come to work and be appreciated and have a good working
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environment.
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It's very depressing when you come to work.
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You're ready to work.
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When you come, there's no light.
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It's mainly for a department like radiology.
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So that means that you sit and wait.
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There were times in the past where you come to work.
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You can't stand.
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You will wait till 12 o 'clock.
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That is when light will now come.
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It's deporalizing.
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Or sometimes you will come to work.
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Okay, you started work.
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The machine will now glitch.
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And then now you have to wait one or two weeks before
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it can get fixed.
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These are the sort of things.
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So it's like,
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okay, are we working today?
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Are we going to be able to get anything done?
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You can't even bring your own family members because you
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don't know what you will meet when you come to work.
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So these are the things I think for us in radiology,
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the main thing is if we can get the working environment right,
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equipment that is working,
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maybe we are trying to lace with the biomedical engineers if they're trying for us.
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And also people have really tried getting our service level agreements so that
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the machine, the downtime is not so much.
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You know,
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those things help that you know that,
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okay, even if I come at this machine as bad,
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at least before the end of the day,
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it will be sorted out.
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When I come to work,
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I'm working in a clean environment.
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The AC is working.
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I'm not cooking while I'm trying to work.
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We have had time when we had to,
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because the AC is now open.
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You now open the doors.
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And it's alright that you're standing in a patient and the door is wide open.
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That is wrong.
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What?
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Even the patient is cooking.
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So, you know,
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these are the things.
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When you walk in a comfortable working environment,
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to come to work,
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the place is clean.
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Your ACs are working.
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Your equipment is working.
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When you ask for paper,
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there's paper.
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You ask for the printer,
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the printer is working.
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You know,
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when you call this person,
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help me do this.
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This person isn't giving you stories.
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Ah, that thing,
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it's bad,
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though. Oh,
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didn't you hear yesterday?
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They didn't bring this.
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You know,
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so I think if we can have...
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Smooth is a good working environment.
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Our consumables come on time.
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Our equipment is well maintained.
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The department is well maintained.
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I think we will retain people better.
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I think people will be happier to come to work.
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They will be motivated more.
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So what strategies will strengthen the workforce over the next
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five weeks?
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I think it's still the same answer.
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I think it's still the same answer.
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Good working environment,
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consumables,
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equipment,
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you know,
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then if the hospital can.
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Maybe some encouragement at the end of the year.
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Maybe we'll have...
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Not everything has to be money.
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Just maybe something to say,
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okay, who is the best radiologist for the residents?
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Some form of recognition.
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Maybe we'll post it on the notice
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board or something.
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Maybe we can print something at the end of the year.
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These are the people who...
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one is even if nothing because you print out that page and
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be showing it to all the family and friends and then you can also bring
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that competition that this one i work harder than this person don't
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worry it's a new year you know so i think things like that
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forms of recognition even if you won't say oh you know even if you won't
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do it by departments as well like right now i think on the
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platform um at this safe hygiene
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I mean, that was yesterday.
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They gave urology,
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the award.
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Yes,
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the urology was not the award,
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I think, as the cleanest award that adhered to IPV principles.
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So,
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of course, they are very proud.
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They are very happy.
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The matrons are ecstatic.
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has been recognized.
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Nobody gave them money,
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but that's in the hospital records.
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Now everybody's going to be looking at theology like,
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yes, you know,
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these are the people who know what they are doing.
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The rest of you step up.
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So these are the things.
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I think it's a recognition.
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Okay, thank you very much,
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ma 'am.
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You've said a lot and actually I'm still going to ask you some
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questions and it still goes in line with some of the things you have said but I
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still wanted to say it again.
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So now I want to ask about infrastructures,
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equipment and the technology and how this can help
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the unit and even our hospital as a whole.
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So what are the key infrastructures or equipment gaps?
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that limits service delivery.
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Fine,
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we've mentioned some,
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but I wanted to highlight them now.
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Okay,
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we need ultrasound.
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Ultrasound scan.
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Yes.
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Presently,
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the hospital is working on the CT and the flow room.
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We have already discussed with the hospital for getting
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a cath lab.
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so that we can have some interventional radiology,
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some interventional procedures.
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But that will have to be in a different building.
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We have discussed getting an ultrasound room and space
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for ultrasound -guided procedures.
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So now we'll have,
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apart from the normal ultrasound,
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we'll have one dedicated.
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for interventional procedures,
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things like drainages,
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ultrasound -guided injections,
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things like that.
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Then a mobile ultrasound that we can take to ICU and theater,
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because we do ultrasound -guided theater procedures,
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ultrasound -guided procedures in ICU.
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So we can have one mobile machine,
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or even two,
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so that one can be dedicated to ICU,
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one can be dedicated to theater.
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So that is that.
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and extra equipment, the mobile machine.
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So those are the main things we need right now.
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But we still have the time to prepare within the next year.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much.
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So now which one is the most important?
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Ultrasound.
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So what are your priority equipment?
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Ultrasound.
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Ultrasound is a priority equipment now.
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Okay.
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So what improvements are needed in digital systems or
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clinical technology for your unit?
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Okay.
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Well, suppose we should actually at this stage as a department have a
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public access system.
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picture archiving communication system so that we can do it with films.
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Films are becoming very expensive.
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So one of the things that was being worked on was getting a PAC system
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for the hospital.
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That's supposed to come in with the CT.
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So they are still working on it.
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But if it doesn't work out,
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that is the next step for this department.
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A PAC system will allow us.
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We don't have to do films anymore.
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As the X -ray is taken,
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it will be sent to a system.
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It will be reported on that system.
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And then if the hospital can also do EMR.
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So that now,
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instead of when a patient comes,
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he has to come and get him from the radiology and take to the doctor.
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The doctor just accesses all this carrying of holder up
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and down.
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If you can integrate that into the hospital system,
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then integrate the packs of the radiology department into the hospital system.
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That way,
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less holders,
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less paper.
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Paperless.
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That's the next step.
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Okay.
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Thank you very much.
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So now I want to ask about patient care and their experience.
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So what are the main challenges affecting patient care and
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satisfaction?
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You know,
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they come here,
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they talk to you,
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they ask questions,
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you know, some of them may feel that they are not getting enough or they are not satisfied.
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So what are the things?
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Why?
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What are the things that affect patient care?
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What are the challenges affecting care and satisfaction?
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Most of the complaints we receive usually border
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down, border on waiting,
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waiting time when the patient comes.
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I mean,
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yes, it's morning,
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nobody has attended to me,
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nobody has spoken to me.
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But the issue is that when you came in,
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you came in maybe at the same time with 15 other people.
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And this is only one scan machine or just two X -ray machines.
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Only one person can be done at a time.
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So at the end of the day,
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yes, you came by seven.
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Nobody is doubting that.
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But since it is one at a time,
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and your number is maybe somehow fell at 11,
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you'll probably not get to maybe 12 o 'clock.
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So these are the issues,
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and it still comes down to having more equipment and more staff.
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Some will come and complain that,
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oh, they did the investigation,
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their report is not yet out.
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Their report is not yet out because...
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It's only one person typing with one system.
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Sometimes there's no consumables.
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So patients will come and when they come they'll tell them,
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oh there's no film,
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oh there's no paper to print,
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oh there's no...
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this to do that so that is why you're sometimes okay if
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there's no film so you can't do the extra film when they come okay they don't film all
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right where's my report oh sorry there's been no lights so there was no way to
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report your film
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Okay, fine.
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Now there was light,
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there was film.
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I'm sorry,
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there was no paper to print your report.
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So that is why your report is still coming out on time.
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So these are the bottlenecks.
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These are the things that most patients are coming about.
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Waiting for too long for the investigation.
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Waiting for too long to get their report.
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We thank God for the management and the way that the hospital is
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an old source.
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She has been training for years.
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So most of the complaints are not about the technical aspects
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that the doctor,
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the geographer doesn't know what they are doing.
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Most of the things now are in the process.
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That is where most of the problems come.
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Okay, thank you very much.
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You've answered the next question in what you just said now,
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but I will still say it.
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So we have the major issues in waiting time,
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communication,
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and all continuity of care.
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So where do they go?
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It's still,
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like I said before,
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the waiting time is because there's not enough equipment,
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not enough staff to be able to efficiently attend to more
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patients within the same time frame.
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And then also the report still comes down to the same thing.
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Most systems to type report and making sure that the consumables
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are always available.
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Things like the printer,
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printer E,
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you know,
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things like that have to always be available so that patients
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can get their reports all the time.
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Thank you so much.
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So what changes will significantly improve patients' experience
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and outcomes?
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So what are the changes we think the management need to put in place so
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that the waiting time,
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all those things can be,
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overall the patient can have good experience when they come here?
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I think the main thing is to get more equipment.
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more staff,
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improve the working environment,
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making sure that consumables are always available.
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And we thank God for this new simulation center that has come up.
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We have been speaking with the director because we've also realized that,
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unfortunately,
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the communication culture,
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the customer service culture is generally poor in most places
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in Nigeria, especially in government establishment.
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So we have been speaking with the simulation center for...
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Maybe if we can have like a simulation or a training,
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especially for our front desk staff,
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those in reception,
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those in nursing,
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those who actually interact with the patients when they come.
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They can know how to speak to patients,
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how you manage patients and treat patients,
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how to deal with an angry patient,
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how to deal with a frustrated patient,
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how to deal with someone who is just coming here for the first time and doesn't know.
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the procedures.
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So the way you talk to the patient also helps the patient's experience.
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The patients are already upset.
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They don't need somebody telling them,
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go and pay.
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Go and pay away.
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Oh,
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you should have brought this.
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How am I supposed to?
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You know,
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so I think that,
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so I've spoken,
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we've spoken, we're trying to draft something.
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So I think those things also help.
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Training in customer sex for front,
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for reception staff.
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Thank you very,
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very much.
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I want to dwell with it on training and capacity development.
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What gaps exist in clinical training of
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residency programs?
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For our residency program right now,
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because we don't have certain requirements like the ECT has
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endowed for a while,
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so our residents are lacking in CT training.
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Luckily for us,
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most of the colleges do as a handoff.
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So if you can have CT or you can have MRI,
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you don't necessarily need to have that.
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But we know that those rules also change and must have.
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So for the city,
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they have been lacking for a few years.
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Then for the special procedures,
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and then interventional radiology is really kicking up now.
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In fact,
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now it has actually become a sub -special team that we trained in.
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But there are only two training centers,
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one in Kano,
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one in Mediguri.
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So those are the training centers.
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So this is also a place that we need to pick up.
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So those are the things.
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Those are mostly for
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the training needs.
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And also our rural hosting,
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our ALU center that is not taken up.
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There were a lot of issues concerning that center.
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We're supposed to have rural hosting for our junior residents.
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So that is another gap in training.
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Okay,
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so for the family house center,
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yeah.
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We're supposed to have a place for the geologist.
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Yes, in the alley.
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We actually have a place,
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but there were issues with the machines.
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We didn't have the extra machine had issues,
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then there was no light.
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We tried and tried to get light,
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and without light,
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there's nothing that can be done.
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We actually tried to start,
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but it didn't,
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it didn't pan out.
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So for the rural person,
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we're having issues with that.
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What are the major,
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or those, that we say you've still studied,
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but what are the major constraints to continuous professional development?
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Okay,
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well, for the continuous work right now,
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at least we have,
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we still make way to make sure that our residents work
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for their mandatory training.
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For the consultants,
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well,
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most of them are there.
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I'm not really seeing a lot of training.
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I think maybe because of the workload and then also
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the costs of,
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you know, trying to go for these trainings.
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And then if you go,
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we're going to,
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you know, with those left behind,
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be able to pick up the slack because there's a lot,
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you know,
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because there are only 10 consultants in
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the whole department.
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So it's a lot.
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Most of the consultants haven't been able to go for a lot of trainings.
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And I'm not sure if the hospital stands
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on training,
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further fellowships and monthly
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trainings and things like that.
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That's something that I'm also looking
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to.
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So that brings me to the question,
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how can training be strengthened to improve services?
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How can it be strengthened?
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I think maybe if we can now,
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if maybe people know that maybe there is a grant or something,
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maybe granted to a department,
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like you can inform the department that you're entitled to
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sending maybe two consultants.
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a year for maybe a training within this amount,
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for this amount of time,
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then maybe we can now work towards that,
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we can now nominate people,
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okay, if there is such and such a training that falls within what
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the hospital has given us,
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okay,
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who will go,
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who is willing to go,
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you know, and things like that,
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you will go, you will come back,
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you will train.
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It has to be something structured.
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Every department is entitled to
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this. Whatever you're doing must fall within this range,
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this cost,
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this time period.
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Maybe you can send one consultant.
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If you're going to send a resident,
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this is what the hospital is doing.
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What are
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the top three strategic priorities UPTH must
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focus on between 2026 and 2030?
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I
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think we need to work on infrastructure
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and human resource development.
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I think those are the two main things.
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I think we'll work on that.
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I don't think we really need a third.
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Because if you strengthen
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your infrastructure and you strengthen your human resource,
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every other thing will fall into place.
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Train your workers,
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maintain your workers,
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make sure the infrastructure,
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make sure that the working environment is optimal.
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I think every other thing will take care of itself.
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So to conclude...
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What should you,
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BTH, start doing at this moment?
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What you're doing now,
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planning.
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Because once you have a plan,
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then it is now.
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You can't just start moving without a plan.
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So what you're doing is actually the first and the proper step.
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When you plan,
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you've made your plan,
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and it's now to follow through on the plan.
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What should they stop doing?
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There should be more walking and less talking.
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More action.
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More action.
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Less talking.
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So what should we do differently?
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Thank you so much for your time,
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the valuable insights and your
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contribution to this strategic plan.
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Thank you so much.
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So is there another thing you want to say,
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final word?
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No,
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I appreciate you taking your time to come and
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find out from me what the department is.
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I know that you have other things to make the sacrifice for the hospital.
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I really appreciate it.
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I know that everything that we have said to take it to management.
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Thank you so much.
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Thank you.
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Thank you so much for your time.
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And very soon we'll see a great UPTH.

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