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Look at how much water is in the market. Who is controlling the government?

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When you're giving such a good thing and you're giving such a restriction,

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then you're going to talk about the Jewish people.

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S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

No, this is not a restriction.

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Look, there's no restriction for the Jewish people.

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S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

Sir, tell me a little bit about it.

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But when you put the metal, you put the metal, you put the payment,

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you put the payment, you put the payment.

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I'm doing this practical, I'm doing this.

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I'm doing this practical, but if you're doing so much,

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then the Jewish community will be very upset.

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How do you do it?

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S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

Rajesh Ji, there's no solution for the industry.

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If you have a fake or a duplicate,

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then there's no way to do it.

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You can't keep it open, you can duplicate it.

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S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

No, there's no solution for it.

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But there's no solution for it.

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We all have to take care of thenya.

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Now, if these people go along over the world,

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books are not a Yeah,

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the Ganz

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Right.

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But it doesn't happen.

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There's no such thing.

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It doesn't happen.

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The guys爪,

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he rescand up with such a lot of Tribes and Trump in doubt,

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I think if your point is valid, once you see how it works for a month, what challenges are

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coming, and if there is a genuine challenge, I think PI will also listen to us.

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I don't support you, I don't have a wrong way, but the practical thing that you implement

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is good.

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I agree.

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I agree.

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S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

I agree.

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If I know Hulmark Centre, I know Hulmark Centre, I don't have to do that.

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What do we do?

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Who do we do?

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Who do we do?

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Who do we do?

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Who do we do charity?

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Exactly.

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The government is talking about the government, after the paper, it is a practical thing.

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Right.

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Tabeer Ji, do you want to say something?

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Hello.

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I have one question, is it fine?

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Can I go ahead?

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Who is this?

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Sorry, can you introduce yourself?

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My name is Avinash Adeshra.

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I am a jeweler from Jamshedpur.

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S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

Yeah, yeah.

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Tell me, sir.

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S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

I will just take two minutes from it.

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Okay, let's go.

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I have to be honest with Rajesh Ji.

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I have to be honest with you.

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I have to be honest with you.

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I have to be honest with Rajesh Ji.

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I have to be honest with Rajesh Ji.

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S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

I think he is asking more about the ease of, you know, this hallmarking.

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That is a real question from Rajesh Ji.

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Because at the end of the day, they had the point that it was such a celebratory.

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You know, somehow we feel that only we are target.

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No doubt we fall into luxury goods and corruption

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The money comes from the maximum

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Maybe

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I mean, some people are doing

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Maximum people are being banned from it

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So I'm thinking

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That the government is trying

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Their level best

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The thing is 100%

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I think it's true

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And I want to keep another point

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Maybe you can answer it

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Now, let's say

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I'm talking about stand-alone stores

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Which is one of the stores

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We're not talking about chains

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Or corporates, etc

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Now, let's say

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Our gemstones work

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Sometimes it's urgent order

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How does it work in the gray area?

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How does it work in the customer?

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It needs to be two days

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And

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Hallmarking becomes one very big issue

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We are trying to

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But

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Until I'm telling you

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How we are working

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And

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Every day we don't get a lot

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Every day

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Carigar

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We don't have to

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We don't have to

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We don't have to

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We don't have to

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We don't have to

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Hallmarking

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you can put it with mixed slots, but when the image is uploaded, the difference is 50-50,

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I don't have any question to you, I just want to know how we can work out specifically in urgent orders.

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I just want to know how we can work out.

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I just want to know how we can work out.

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S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

It is a delivery tomorrow morning.

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At night, I have to talk about urgent orders at 4 or 5 o'clock.

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I will talk about urgent orders.

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Regularly, sir, there is no need for me.

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It seems like the time of 6-8-20.

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My main reason is that I agree with Rajesh East.

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And my question is, how are the urgent orders?

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Basically, I will explain your questions.

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I will give you two questions.

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I will give you two questions.

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First of all, I have told you that the difference is about 50 million.

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This is not a problem.

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This is just that ease of doing business.

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Ultimately, the dealer's cut.

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The dealer's cut.

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The dealer's cut.

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The dealer's cut.

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The dealer's cut.

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The dealer's cut.

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The dealer's cut.

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The dealer's cut.

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The dealer's cut.

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The dealer will be payed for 20 million.

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In fact, the dealer's cut,

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which is about a

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So, there is no loss between the industry, consumer and the hallmarking center, so there

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is no loss between the industry, consumer and the hallmarking center.

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The second day, as you said, the hallmarking delay happens basically.

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I don't understand that the basic hallmarking center, we are seeing many hallmarking centers

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and dwellers are not giving full time to hallmarking centers or short cuts basically.

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There are many hallmarking centers and dwellers that don't have to do with fire.

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If you actually see the hallmarking process, if you start to end, if there is one piece,

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I will understand that there are two pieces of the lot.

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And if you have to give the one or two pieces of the lot minimum 6 hours, we all know basically.

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If you expect that it will go beyond 6 hours and if you have to upload one or two photos,

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then I don't think it will go beyond 10 seconds or two minutes.

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So, there is no difficulty for the small lot, there is no time for the small lot.

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And in fact, your goodwill is strong, that your transparency is in front of the consumer.

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It will go beyond the same way.

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So, I think you have nothing to worry if everything is going on.

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You know how much turnaround time is in 6 hours.

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So, I think that if there is one or two pieces, in 6 hours, it will go beyond 1 minute.

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So, nothing to worry on that front.

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The only issue that we face, like I am being very frank with you, on our level,

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is that, today, there are two batches of hallmarking.

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One in the morning, they say it at 12 o'clock.

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And one in the morning, they say it at 4 o'clock.

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Because they take 6 hours.

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I understand, that all of them are working.

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They also have time to give them.

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They are collecting pieces from the entire bazaar.

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Then they are taking out pieces.

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They also have no damage in the product.

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I mean, the same thing is light-weight.

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This means, I mean, I got a piece at 5 or 6 at night.

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I got the piece of the piece at 12 or 11.

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Because, yes, I will tell you very frankly,

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now, with my own customer,

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my maximum outstation clients are.

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And, with the BVC and SQL, our parcel ratio is quite a good.

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The reason being, ours is a small town.

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parents are here, the children outside, anything they require

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either surgent orders, then we have to send by

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BBC or SQL.

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So for that reason, sometimes it becomes

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a hindrance.

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I was thinking

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that if the government

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applied for this thing.

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S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

Frankly speaking, this is not a hindrance.

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Basically, you can see BBC or SQL

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and they have a particular time for taking money.

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Now if you have to take money

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or your timetable, so all these

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service services, we are

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service providers, SQL and all these

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are service providers.

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Or service providers, they have to

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give you basic time.

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So don't keep us

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in isolation, but we are

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like any other service provider.

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We need some time.

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That's how our

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work is done.

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S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

Sir, I'm just talking about

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reducing the time, but the process can be

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that's it.

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S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

I got it.

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I got it.

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S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

I got it.

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S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

I got it.

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S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

I got it.

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S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

Let us see.

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Let us see.

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Let it get implemented first.

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Let it get implemented first

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and then we'll be able to see

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that what's going on.

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I think Vijay ji.

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Sorry, Samir sir.

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Later, Vijay sir,

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you also have 100%.

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S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

Samir ji, Namaste.

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S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

Namaste, sir.

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Namaste, sir.

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Namaste.

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Namaste.

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Namaste.

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Namaste.

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Namaste.

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Namaste.

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Namaste.

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Namaste.

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S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

Namaste.

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S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

Namaste.

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S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

There are two questions. One is that there is no manufacturing or wholesale.

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There are two pieces like that.

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One is that there will be a wedding ring and there will be 0.001% from where you get from.

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And then they will reject.

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But those people, from Belgium or elsewhere,

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they will say that they will pass there. You will not pass there.

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So we follow total strict rules.

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So still, we know how to go about this.

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S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

What do I want to do?

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S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

So your specific question is to the Academy of contents or the variants, right?

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There is also for them.

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S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

And in the other places, they will pass and give them.

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So what can we do now?

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And our name is also wrong.

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They say that you will reject.

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You will also take money to reject.

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Because your person is doing so much.

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S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

Your point is very serious and very valid.

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Now, if I personally see how we handle this thing is,

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or what I suggest to the Hallmarking Center,

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that basically, if you have any XRF testing,

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then it will mark an area of which it is marking.

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So if it is marking, then you have a report specifically.

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And if you want to take it,

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then you will do that.

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And you will be retesting it.

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Once someone gets thrown at the office,

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then you are calling it,

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you will pass.

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S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

Now, look,

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see, anyone genuinely at the Hallmarking Center,

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that there is no shock when you can do that,

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that you can reveal it.

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And if you have a customer at the Hallmarking Center,

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you will have the a customer.

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So no one wants to be jealous of your customer.

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They don't want to leave the Samheerji

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to go to the Hallmarking Center.

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Or, they want to take it from Bombay.

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They want to leave the Hallmarking Center.

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and I will give it a good service.

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But he genuinely wants to know that if your money fails,

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then tell you.

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And then you have to note that you have to take it.

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S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

If it is possible, then you have to keep an XRF report.

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And the regular pieces don't fail.

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When we have analyzed our data,

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we also do big corporates and mom and pop shops.

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So our practice is that if you are failing,

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I will mark you and check the XRF in this area.

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And people say that you have to check the XRF in this spot.

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And then you have to leave it.

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So I will send my screen shots.

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The XRF machine that comes to the XRF.

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So you have to change the transparency.

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If you have to change the procedure,

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you will easily challenge it.

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And then you will understand it seriously.

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S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

That's why the big corporates follow this practice.

12:48

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

It's a very simple thing.

12:49

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

But all these things are basic.

12:51

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

One or two things,

12:52

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

because of doing the right thing,

12:54

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

it will not be able to take it from you.

12:56

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

And the Halmaki Center who is doing this wrong,

12:58

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

you will also be able to think and understand it.

13:01

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

Absolutely.

13:02

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

And I'm just saying continuously.

13:04

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

What happened in the past days?

13:05

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

What happened in the past days?

13:06

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

There was a peace temple in there,

13:08

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

it was failed.

13:09

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

And I would say it's a 5 PPTK.

13:12

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

At least the permissible from it was less.

13:15

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

And what we checked once,

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S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

it was passed.

13:20

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

And that's why the hallmarking center of Goa

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S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

was closed in 3 months or 3 months.

13:27

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

Because we have to do that automatically.

13:59

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

Yes, exactly.

14:13

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

In fact, Sabir, I would like to give you a good update, that the BIS has seriously

14:20

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

addressed the guidelines for the marking centres and the dwellers. Recently, I had a phone

14:25

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

recently called the BIS office to revise these guidelines, and the minimum 5PPT

14:31

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

should be reconsidered. One is that. The other thing has already been done.

14:38

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

When I represented the marking centres through IJJA, we went to DG BIS and General Sanjay

14:47

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

Gharji. Then we said that, for any reason, a sample will fail, in which there is no role

14:53

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

of the jeweller. For example, your HOID has duplicated and it has failed the sample.

15:00

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

That's why you had a cancellation notice, I had a cancellation notice, and everyone had a problem.

15:04

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

And those who had done this wrong job, they didn't have anything.

15:06

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

So, when DG gave this representation, they had an immediate change in the law,

15:13

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

that if someone wants to suspend the hallmarking center or cancel the hallmarking center,

15:19

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

then they would give the suspension or cancellation before the 14th day notice.

15:23

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

So, what did they tell us? They would stop the system,

15:25

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

and they would also stop the system, and we would not know that our center would have been closed.

15:30

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

But now that rule has changed, now they have to give a notice for 14 days,

15:34

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

that if your sample failure or xyz reason, you have to suspend the hallmarking center.

15:40

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

They say, notice of suspension or cancellation, and you have to answer that,

15:44

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

we will also take a personal hearing, and you will get the opportunity to prove your point.

15:48

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

So, this is a good thing, that if you are in a wrong way, you can stop it immediately,

15:53

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

without any of your center's support.

15:57

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

Okay.

15:58

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

DJ, if you have a question please.

16:02

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

Chetan, very, very nice.

16:05

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

And I have been updated for you.

16:08

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

But we have a big problem.

16:12

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

Personally, I do not have a problem.

16:14

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

This is a good industry.

16:16

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

This is a good thing for you, but I want to be a good industry.

16:20

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

It means for the hallmark center.

16:24

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

As you also know that there is one piece of hallmarking,

16:28

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

so if you have one or two pieces of hallmarking,

16:32

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

then you have to take two pieces of hallmarking.

16:35

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

So, the problem is that we have been aware of the rural areas,

16:40

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

that we have been aware of, that people have taken the hallmarking license.

16:45

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

But the small, small jolers, they are very small.

16:49

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

There are also 40,000,000 in turn.

16:51

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

But they have taken the hallmarking license.

16:54

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

So, if anyone has made the hallmarking license,

16:57

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

then they have to do hallmarking.

16:58

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

So, if you understand, there is a small city.

17:02

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

It is empty.

17:03

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

So, for the hallmarking to do hallmarking,

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S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

he has taken the hallmarking license,

17:14

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

and then he has taken the hallmarking license to give him one piece of money.

17:19

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

So, he has taken the hallmarking license also to give him $200 per cent in an offering,

17:21

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

he takes the money for $200 per cent,

17:22

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

and that the cost of this will take the money.

17:26

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

So, the cost of this will take the money in a way,

17:31

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

especially the cost becomes a less than $300-600 per cent.

17:36

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

and in a 15th hour, it will be a total cost for the World Mark.

17:42

S… Speaker 4 (Dhandapani Street)

So how will that do that?

17:45

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

No, I'm sorry.

17:46

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

This is a practical problem that is a lot of the world.

17:50

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

No, I'm sorry.

17:51

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

I'm sorry.

17:52

S… Speaker 4 (Dhandapani Street)

I'm telling you,

17:55

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

here is the current state of Nath Maharaj and the region's government.

18:08

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

We have been working with many rulers.

18:10

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

We have been talking about this.

18:12

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

We have been talking about this.

18:14

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

If you have to compete, you have to do it, but the problem is that

18:22

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

how much money will you get after a piece of $15?

18:25

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

If you get $2,000, you will get $1,000 and you will get paid for $15.

18:29

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

So how do they do it?

18:33

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

Vijay Ji, I understand your problem.

18:37

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

The practical problem is that if a hallmarking centre is close to 50 km,

18:42

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

it takes time to do it.

18:44

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

But Vijay Ji, if I can tell you about the fact that I have interaction with Gunkan

18:50

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

and Far-off Gunkan.

18:52

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

Gunkan is also very connected because you are in Kudal,

18:55

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

you are in Goa.

18:58

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

If you have to go here, if you have to go here,

19:01

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

then you have to go here to 40 km.

19:03

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

Yeah, yeah.

19:04

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

So basically, what is it, Vijay Ji?

19:06

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

I heard this problem from Gunkan,

19:08

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

and I'm going to tell you 4 years ago,

19:10

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

that when HOID came here.

19:12

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

But now, there is an advantage that over a period of time,

19:16

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

when we surveyed after one year,

19:20

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

when we surveyed after H.O.A.D.

19:21

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

After 2021, we surveyed after 2022 or 2023,

19:24

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

we surveyed after 2022,

19:25

S… Speaker 4 (Dhandapani Street)

and we surveyed after 2022,

19:26

S… Speaker 4 (Dhandapani Street)

and we surveyed after 2022.

19:26

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

So they received a good feedback.

19:30

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

They told me that the first point of hallmark is already.

19:34

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

Right?

19:34

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

Manufacturing is on the first point,

19:36

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

and then hallmark is on that.

19:37

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

So our 95 percent gold,

19:39

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

we were manufactured by my own manufacturer,

19:41

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

from Bombay,

19:42

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

from XYZ City,

19:44

S… Speaker 4 (Dhandapani Street)

and they already hallmark.

19:52

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

foreign

20:00

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

and secondly the hallmark charges

20:04

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

two BIS have said that you have to take a piece from the consumer for 45 rupees

20:08

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

and that's not the criteria for 200 rupees

20:12

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

so I think that we can go to BIS

20:16

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

that if it's a particular lot

20:18

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

if it's a single piece hallmarked

20:20

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

then we have to take a piece from the consumer

20:23

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

because that's the cost of the process

20:24

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

it's not possible for 45 rupees

20:26

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

or you can understand it

20:28

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

as a jeweler or as a hallmarking center

20:30

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

so we have to tell the ministry

20:32

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

if there is a piece like this

20:34

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

one piece

20:36

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

one piece is the one piece

20:37

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

if you sell for 2 pieces

20:37

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

if you sell for 2 pieces

20:38

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

then you sell for 200 rupees

20:42

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

until 4 pieces there is no problem

20:44

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

because you have to take this money from the consumer

20:46

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

but you think that this is a big difference

20:49

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

compared to your business

20:51

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

and to present it to the consumer

20:55

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

so we have to take this call

20:56

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

to a jeweler association

20:58

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

so we have to take this call

20:58

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

that we can go to BIS

20:59

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

no doubt

21:00

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

that if there is a piece

21:01

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

if there is a hallmarked

21:02

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

then we can know that

21:03

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

a particular job is a piece

21:05

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

but does it suit our industry

21:07

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

is it to our standard

21:09

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

that talk call we have to take

21:11

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

like Rupin

21:32

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

question

21:39

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

the problem is there sir

21:40

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

I am not against against, I am also in your favor.

21:44

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

But I feel like the same criteria, that is the same criteria for everyone.

21:50

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

But it will be complicated, but we can go if the dealer has a little bit.

21:55

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

If you want, do this work.

21:57

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

You can't buy it in 50 rupees.

21:59

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

You know, in 50 rupees, you can buy it in 46 rupees, total amount of 46 rupees, 50 rupees.

22:08

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

If you want to buy it in 50 rupees, you will not be able to buy it in 50 rupees.

22:10

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

But if you want to buy it in 50 rupees, it will not be able to buy it in 50 rupees.

22:17

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

There is no problem.

22:17

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

Leave it.

22:18

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

What is the other thing?

22:21

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

As you mentioned, the first point of sale.

22:24

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

There are many buyers who are already raiding.

22:27

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

They are raiding the end point.

22:29

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

They are raiding the end point of sale.

22:30

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

But if you are in the wholesale, you will have raiding the end point of sale.

22:35

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

I am not going to buy it in 50 rupees.

22:48

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

I am not going to buy it in 50 rupees.

22:48

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

If you are in 50 rupees, you will buy it in 50 rupees.

22:56

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

Okay, that is fine.

22:56

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

Let's take a call.

22:58

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

We will have to take a call.

23:00

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

In fact, you know, that when it is implemented, you will have to be able to buy it in 50 rupees.

23:05

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

Basically, no questions asked or you will have to ask.

23:11

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

I can understand.

23:11

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

Yes sir, when Muslim is asked, you know, this costs lle day in 45 rupees

23:16

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

There is only price ofnan until 5 rupees.

23:20

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

See, and around 5 rupees available to the total amount of the amount is $75,

23:24

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

so it will increase the amount of amount while you will have to pay them forok��.

23:29

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

If 5 rupees increase, there will be large amount in 5 rupees.

23:30

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

And if you buy 2-5 rupees in the amount of your total amount so you can make the kind of액.

23:34

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

That is small, in 50 rupees a total amount.

23:35

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

That fine, so I shall prove it� Alleen.

23:41

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

Point taken.

23:44

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

I think, Pankaj, we are done with. Any comments or questions are there? We can wind it off.

23:50

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

Sir, one of the comments in the chat is the last one. Let's close it.

23:57

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

What about the guarantee of hallmarking center? Is there any kind of receipt there given to us?

24:03

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

Sir, the hallmarking center guarantee is that the BIS license is available on the website.

24:08

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

You can ask from branch office or regional office.

24:10

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

You can ask from branch office. If your insurance has done it or not, you can take details.

24:16

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

If it is for fidelity insurance, you can ask for the right to ask for it.

24:19

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

If your insurance is proper, you have minimum insurance.

24:23

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

If it is for your staff, you can ask for fidelity policy.

24:27

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

So, these basic checks, you have to ask for your right to ask for the hallmarking center.

24:31

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

And it is mandatory for the BIS point of view.

24:35

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

Sir, I think it's a question. Is there any other questions? Otherwise, we can end the session.

24:45

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

How to counter-fill hallmarks?

24:48

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

So, this is one of the procedures which BIS started to start uploading pictures and this thing.

24:53

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

And they are also starting with HUID transfer which was already there in their first phase.

24:58

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

But it was...

24:59

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

It was...

25:00

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

like kept on hold because of operational issues from the other end now i think they are slowly

25:05

S… Speaker 2 (Dhandapani Street)

starting with corporates so slowly and gradually they they are taking steps to counter fake

25:12

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

almost yes mr pankaj we can find out so okay thank you so much sharing the information to

25:23

S… Speaker 3 (Dhandapani Street)

our participants and thank you to all the participants and thank you to the world

25:27

S… Speaker 1 (Dhandapani Street)

and one second thank you thank you thank you so much thank you everyone for your patience this

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