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yeah and she's 92 and she had this
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like 7 metre painting of a chocolate biscuit hanging
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in the main foyer of the or like the main showpiece
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wall of the Royal Academy and that to me is more of a power statement than
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Basilitz with his faux like upside
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down eagles in a palace which has all the settings of power
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yet there's this
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undermining of power at the same time because it just seems so disingenuous.
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See, write that sentence down,
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what you just told me there.
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I mean, that is,
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you've just summarised a really nice piece
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of writing. That's really,
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really nice.
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You should write that down and put that in your dissertation.
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That is a really nice key sentence there.
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Well, that ties in with genuineness.
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Genuinity?
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No,
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look at it.
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Genuine.
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And I think people respond to a truth because they
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can sense it.
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They can sense a falseness or a bravado
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like Basilitz.
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And I think with Rose Wiley,
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you know there's no scream.
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She hasn't filtered herself.
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And that goes back to the digital thing where everyone's...
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you know, they're the PR version of themselves.
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But what you said about the locations,
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the palace,
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the Royal Academy,
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this biscuit hanging up,
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and we're talking about the sort of the anarchy and how it's sort of delivered,
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and the sort of obnoxious nature of Mazars,
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those are not kind of sort of opinions,
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or one could say,
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oh, this is...
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don't know about the truth and this one isn't there's no really proof of that but you're referencing
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real sites you're referencing what you feel yeah but you're also referencing
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that you know what is the eagle you know it's upside down the scale of the eagle you
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know these are probably the same scale as what some of those kind of huge
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statues are in Germany.
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It's the
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power of the Nazis,
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which is exactly what he's supposedly fighting back against.
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He's using all of their language and kind of coming up with the same,
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you know,
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Hitler is the ultimate of the macho ego gone wrong.
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And then you've got a chocolate biscuit.
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Yeah, and then you've got that,
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you know.
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And these are two different people.
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So I think that's a really...
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really interesting to write about.
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And then you're also bringing in the women painters in
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a way that's really challenging the kind of...
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Well, that's the kind of thing Hitler would say.
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Yeah.
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Can't say that,
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though. But it is that kind of...
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Like,
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it's obviously false.
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And he must know that's false.
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He can't actually believe that.
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We talked about the brand.
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Yeah.
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We talked about delivery.
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You talked about having your story,
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your brand.
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People, the art collectors that are paying that price that they're paying for positive painting,
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they don't give up.
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There is God.
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No, exactly.
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They want that power.
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They want that thing on the wall because that's...
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Because they're buying that power for themselves.
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That's the scar in history.
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I've got a basilisk commercial,
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I know,
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but I own that type of thing.
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I mean,
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I walked into a room of friends to Andy
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Warhol.
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and screen prints on the wall and it's at the electric chair.
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Yeah, that's a massive fuck you,
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isn't it?
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In his office.
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He's got this massive desk.
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On one side he's got an electric chair and the other is an electric chair.
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Jesus. Can you imagine going to meetings?
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I know,
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I know.
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Well,
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it's like Lois with the naked statue behind her head.
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Oh, right, yeah,
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yeah, yeah.
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Which I haven't seen but I've heard about.
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No,
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the Andy Warhol electric chair,
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that would be worse.
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Yeah,
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no, no, it's nuts.
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You go in and you're just like,
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wow, what a statement.
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But that's the basilisk buyer.
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Yeah, it's the basilisk buyer.
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You're buying basilisk because you subscribe to that male ego that
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is aggressive,
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and it's an assertion of power.
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Yeah, if you're a C -suite,
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and
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it's very specific.
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You wouldn't call it that.
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You'd call it,
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like, the cell of my own or whatever.
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It's probably said because it
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just adds to the brand basilisk,
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doesn't it?
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Yeah.
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But to discuss that,
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I think you summed it really well when you're saying that and I think that's a really nice way to
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kind of, you know,
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segue from Baselitz to there and then
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finding,
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you know, this...
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The scale operations section,
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there's a really nice way to deliver the dissertation and GBT will
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help you with it very well.
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Because you've got 70 ,000 words,
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it won't help anybody that's not really got
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anything to give to it.
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And I think that's where you're able and you've got permission to
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completely go from that.
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It's all there,
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right?
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So,
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yeah, get a little highlighter pen and sort of highlight the things where...
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You can see my crazy organisation of notes.
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It's good, it's good.
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But highlight those,
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tell them what you're going to do and just say,
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you know, but don't let them find conclusions for you.
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Just break these down,
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they're loose,
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they're open things.
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I want to change them going forward,
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so don't give me,
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you know, conclusive things.
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I'm going to want to introduce more later.
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problems with this aspect of finding a particular word.
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So you can be very specific.
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Yeah, you can,
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but think about it as a growing process.
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You don't just say,
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do this.
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So you say, okay,
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let's just break this down.
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You need to edit down drastically.
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Find the order.
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We need to then discuss maybe the order gets flipped,
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find a conclusion.
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But I think getting some of that terminology dialed in,
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where between the abstract configuration,
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that liminal part of space,
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that needs to maybe be dialed in.
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But then say,
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I want to introduce...
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This section's about the structure
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of operations.
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Yeah,
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that sort of thing.
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You want to work with that as well.
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And you really want to be writing about Basilitz and...
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Who's the other one?
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Gwen John.
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Rose Wiley.
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Rose Wiley.
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So maybe choose two and then you can bring in those and there'll be some reference points
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there.
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discuss your own practice with a little bit of back and forth and then introduce it but it'll
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sometimes when I start spurting out big bits of text just say look I want
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to have a discussion I want to break this down and then I want to maybe add this into it before we
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do go ahead and start adding this to paragraphs this is kind of what and
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it'll start to sort of it'll mould their sober days with
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it and it'll be a long conversation it'll be good but as you go tell it to
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write you and just save you a downloadable
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JPEG or PDF,
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something that you can edit anyway.
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It's a PDF that you can put onto your computer as you move
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forward.
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They'll all be there,
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but it's far from cheating because you've written off.
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I write research feed posts.
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I'm a researcher
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for, it's like an economic,
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quite a
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big site,
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and I have to do quite a lot of research feeds for them,
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and I often write.
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I write loads of stuff in my journal.
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I get it all together.
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And then I just get it to break.
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And then I just make sure I'm
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right in thinking that the year this
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was formed is the right year.
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Just to double check a few things.
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But it's great.
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But everybody's doing that.
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The way it's bad is if you've got nothing to give it and you ask it to write you a
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research base.
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It's
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just learning how to use it as well.
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And also it's evolving so quickly all the time.
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Yeah, it is.
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I best get that.
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Where do you get most of your information?
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Because your range of knowledge is
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incredible.
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The way you have all these research papers going around your head and
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science.
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I'm quite interested in that.
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Do you subscribe to any particular thing?
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I read loads of things,
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yeah. I've got a lot of...
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I just read tons of stuff.
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I listen to...
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Maggie Lake,
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whatever she's on,
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on YouTube.
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It's an economic thing.
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It'd be dry as dust.
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It's just loads of investors talking about stuff.
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Yeah, it's quite interesting,
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though. There's Macro
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Dirt podcast.
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That's just funny,
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but that's just, again,
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it's just some ex -government sex investors talking about Bloomberg
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News.
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And then there's some really interesting kind
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of just researchers out there just mining down
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into stuff on X just about.
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that's going on.
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I'm just not quite interested in it.
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But generally just,
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yeah,
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a lot of macroeconomics,
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but within macroeconomics,
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there's everything else between that and that.
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It's quite interesting.
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So I met there's another guy at Jim Bianco.
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I saw a lot of Ray Dalio in podcasts.
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All of these are ex -big hedge fund managers or whatever
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that they've come down to street level and are doing podcasts and things.
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I'm just discussing.
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and economics, but within that,
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I'm starting to understand a hell of a lot more about just
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buying straights
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of Waldo's, causing fertiliser shortages,
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and there's going to be Al Nino somewhere out in the Pacific that's going to dry up the American dust.
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So suddenly,
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that's why the food price is going down.
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Well,
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I think the sooner we go to the south of France,
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in like five,
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ten years.
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I also heard the fertiliser story,
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because all of our fertiliser for the UK is stuck in the Gulf
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and they can't get it out.
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And so the price has gone,
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shooting up,
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which means the farmers won't have enough to do wheat and barley this year.
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And that's the bulk of our agricultural industry.
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So food prices will be going up and up and up.
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But
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then also we should be growing our own vegetables.
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Which, if you live in central London,
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it's not very...
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No,
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no, it's true.
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I've got a roof platter,
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which is quite railway suit.
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We should all be growing stuff on the roofs here.
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Yeah, yeah, it'd be true.
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And that brings the bees and it brings all...
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Rewild London.
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Exactly,
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yeah. But yeah,
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I'm just interested in a lot of things and it takes up a lot of my time.
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So there's a lot of...
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But it's good because your brain's being...
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The neurons in your brain are firing up.
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People who don't learn anything.
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Do you have ADHD?
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Yeah, it's off the chart.
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No,
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I never noticed.
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But it's very,
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when I'm here,
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and I'm there,
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and I've learned to sort of compartmentalise it,
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but I like to read stuff here and there.
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There's just patterns in everything,
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and I find it really fascinating.
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But then,
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you know, it's just taming yourself
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to kind of be able to...
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work on this.
11:51
S… Speaker 2 (Chris chat dissertation 120-end)
Well maybe that's where the chat to UBT will come in by AI.
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It's like a taming of the...
11:58
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Meditation helps as well.
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Sometimes.
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I need to rewire my brain of calming
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down.
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I think the MA is so destabilising anyway.
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Sometimes they like good breath work.
12:17
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Oh, yeah, I used to do that.
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I used to go somewhere,
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and you'd be completely high as a kite after,
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like, 25 minutes.
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Oxygenate.
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Yeah, and for about a day,
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you'd be completely,
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like, I don't know what it was,
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dopamine or euphoria,
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probably, like an endorphin.
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Yeah,
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just open yourself up to,
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you know, just your chakras and things.
12:40
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Yeah. My wife's got a neurofeedback clinic.
12:42
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Oh,
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wow. And it's been around since the 50s or 60s,
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I think.
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It's a process of,
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sort of,
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you get wired up to various different parts of your head.
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It doesn't put anything in your head.
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What it does is it's measuring your certain brain waves at certain points and certain areas
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of the brain for calming,
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concentration,
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focus,
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sleep,
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all kinds of things,
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and alertness,
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all kinds of things.
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Anyway, you can work different points.
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It's like T1,
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T2, but anyway,
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she's done this.
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She's had me and my
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son. But it's
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fascinating, but all you do is watch the screen.
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And it has the software in it,
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you're hooked up to the thing,
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it's measuring this brainwave,
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and it's programmed to be working these particular points.
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So the screen will do things,
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it'll go in and out,
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out of focus,
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and oscillate and do different things.
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So what that's doing is it's working those points and teaching those points to
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kind of, when you're watching it,
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to train it to do something.
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And it can help make karma,
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it can help make...
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And it's amazing,
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actually, what it really works.
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It sounds like an artwork.
13:50
S… Speaker 1 (Chris chat dissertation 120-end)
Our son has been off this chart.
13:54
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The school used to be on tracking quite a bit.
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It was a bit disrupted,
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slightly used to find it hard to listen.
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The teachers said it's just a totally different child.
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Wow.
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It's great.
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It worked.
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S… Speaker 1 (Chris chat dissertation 120-end)
I mean, it's been around since the 50s,
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60s, but it's so nuanced,
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and it's so taboo,
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and it's so kind of...
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It's difficult to pin down that it's not really made its way into the sort of NHS,
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probably, but it probably will at some point.
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Yeah, so we've been doing that,
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and that's good.
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It's kind of helped.
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Good.
14:22
S… Speaker 2 (Chris chat dissertation 120-end)
That sounds great.
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Helped with ADHD.
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I'm not really on the drugs as much.
14:27
S… Speaker 2 (Chris chat dissertation 120-end)
No. Well,
14:27
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I had a cousin who was put on lithium in South Africa from
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the age of 11,
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and her dad,
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so the environmental lawyer,
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used to go and put lithium through the school gates when she ran out.
14:40
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Like,
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what are you doing here?
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I don't take it. I don't take it. They're all messing with your brain.

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