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We're really blessed to be able to mediate a case between
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one of the most primitive indigenous people,
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by primitive I just mean unspoiled and unexposed
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to the outside world,
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and a very enlightened oil company that rather
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than to litigate in what was very risky litigation for
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the tribe and the company.
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They wanted to experiment with an enlightened settlement that
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was to build fish farms
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and water filters and transportation
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systems and provide medical clinics.
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So for months we worked on this
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very enlightened mediation.
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The indigenous people that came were
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It took them three and a half days to get from the jungle to
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the city in South America where this took
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place.
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And they sent the chief,
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the assistant chief,
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and two members of the community because everything
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had to be approved by the community.
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At any rate,
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we went through this long mediation.
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We finally settled it with my friend the mediator's
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proposal.
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And it took me...
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almost three hours to explain through
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this torturous kind of translation,
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first from English into Spanish,
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and then from Spanish into the native Indian tongue,
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and then back out what the mediator's proposal was
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and how,
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if they accepted and if the oil company accepted,
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we would have a deal.
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But it eventually,
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after a long grueling day,
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both sides accepted.
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The chief,
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who to that point had never looked me in the eye,
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I was told not to look him in the eye because it
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was considered aggressive,
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and he stared at the wall the entire time,
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finally came up and he embraced
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me and said thank you in his native tongue and
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looked me in the eye,
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which was a big thrill.
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So we were then all back in our seats.
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I was wrapping it up,
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and I said,
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Chief, before you go,
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before you go,
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Chief, I've given you now one of my best tricks,
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a mediator's proposal to use to settle disputes.
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You have to settle disputes for a whole community of people
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and so on.
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I want to know one of your tricks so
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I can, when I go back to the States,
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I have some special...
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kind of technique that I can use to successfully,
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because I can tell that you have many years of
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experience in doing this.
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And so it was translated.
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There was a lot of giggling going on,
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laughing between the community members and the tribe.
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And finally,
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they said something to the translator,
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and the translator said to Spanish,
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and then the Spanish and English,
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and he said, the chief says.
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Try the poison dart.
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It works every time.
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And so I often
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sit wistfully in a mediation about 4 .30
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in the afternoon with some cantankerous lawyer from Washington,
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New York, and so on,
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destroying the fabric of this beautiful deal that
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you put together,
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wishing I could just have one poison dart to throw from
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the good chief.

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