2026-07-15 short PMO

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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
So I think,
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
I expect tomorrow we will have a meeting
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
for the
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
implementation CR for Shagas.
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
But I don't have any updating after
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
the email,
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
like which CR can be followed to follow
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
on project.
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
So is there any update or can I use the submission CR for
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
follow on projects?
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
I think you have to discuss and decide
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
at ADK which each one is better,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
right?
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
I'm kind of in two minds.
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
On the one hand,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
I understand why we want to be closing.
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
We've got certification.
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
It's just a strange situation.
0:49
S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
We've got certification,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
but we have a follow -on project.
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
My only concern is that how
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
are we documenting
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
the follow -on project.
1:00
S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
For me, it almost feels cleaner to close
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
change actions against the deficiency round,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
because the deficiency round is officially closed,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
and opening up something new for the follow -on project,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
because it is something that,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
in a way,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
is independent.
1:18
S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
So it's,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
although it's still connected to the status conformity assessment,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
the certificate is issued,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
but we're doing it.
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
this extra thing so where do we document the
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
extra thing and what Patricia was suggesting is more
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
of a cleaner view from an audit point of view like the
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
one way we could close everything related to the certification process
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
because we've completed that we've certified
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
right but on the other hand we have this
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
extra follow -on project that is tied to it.
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
So I suppose you could go either way,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
as long as it's documented clearly.
2:01
S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
But I also understand from your point of view,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
we don't like creating UCR.
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
I don't think
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
it's going to be a long time like that.
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
QMSR should land in the next couple of weeks.
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
So if we feel that we can document it properly,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
I'm okay if we want to just keep it open until
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
we get the QMS cert issued and then it's
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
done anyway.
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
We didn't have to create extra bits because we're also talking about only
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
another month or so for the follow -on project and that will
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
be done as well.
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
So we could weigh the effort against it.
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
creating a new CR and everything against something that is actually very
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
short term.
2:49
S… Speaker 2 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Do you think?
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
But I think I
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
just want to make sure what documents need
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
to the new CR.
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
I mean, TI and IFU,
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
maybe they just have own CR for updating?
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S… Speaker 4 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Well,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
you mean if we go the approach of creating a new CR for the following project?
3:16
S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Yeah,
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
if we make a new CR.
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
It would be protocols
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
and reports as well because it's everything to do with that activity.
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
But as you know,
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
the event reports and interfering
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
final reports is already in agile.
3:40
S… Speaker 4 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
See,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
but then I do think you have enough here to argue that
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
due to the short -term nature of this additional project,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
we already have enough activity open in Agile to link
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
it correctly to that.
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
So if you can make that argument and everybody in the ADK
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
agrees, we keep this change action open because we have until when?
4:04
S… Speaker 2 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
August,
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S… Speaker 2 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
is it, for this change action?
4:07
S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
What's the original date?
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
I think that's maybe her main concern is that we don't need to
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
extend it again.
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
I see.
4:17
S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
So if we can get it done before that original one,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
I would say,
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S… Speaker 2 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
yes,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
you have enough of an argument to suggest let's keep the old change
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
action open and everything that's already in Agile is connected to this
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
set of CRs,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
et cetera, in Agile.
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
If we are going to reach the end of that change actions,
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S… Speaker 2 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
due date,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
it may become a different conversation,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
but I believe you're going to be done in August,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
right? So we should be safely finished in time.
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
I see.
4:53
S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Actually,
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
we will have a working session tomorrow,
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
so I can make an agenda for this issue,
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
and we will discuss.
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S… Speaker 2 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Have you ever
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S… Speaker 2 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
talked with Ama about this?
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
So Patricia has just given her input for it.
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
I have not spoken to Anna specifically about it.
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
I think at the end of the day,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
they'll only just advise you that you can make the decision.
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
I don't see any reason to insist on one or
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
the other.
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
I can see arguments for both sides.
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S… Speaker 4 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Yeah,
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S… Speaker 2 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
I'm just mentioning Anna because she's on site.
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S… Speaker 2 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Okay.
5:37
S… Speaker 2 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
So maybe if she's on site...
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Why don't you just,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
if you see her,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
just ask her what the opinion is and explain to her that we've got two options to
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
go for.
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
But if you want to keep your current one,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
I would suggest you tell her,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
look, this is short term.
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
It's not one of those long term CRs that are opening again.
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
So it is worth considering the effort of a
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
new CR versus ONIA.
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Another six to eight week period that we're waiting for input to
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
close those actions.
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S… Speaker 4 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Okay.
6:16
S… Speaker 4 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Yeah.
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
And second question is about,
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
this is our IVA implementation workshop
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
that will be in next week.
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
But for preparing,
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
I just have a question for Cloud Media because
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
this is a submission part,
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
but we need to calculate the study.
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
We need to count the study,
6:43
S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
but could we include the cloud media for this
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S… Speaker 4 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
section?
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Or exclude it?
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S… Speaker 4 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Because
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
there is no decision.
6:57
S… Speaker 2 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
If you do,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
then you need to put a star next to it with a bit of an explanation that
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
this is a pending executive decision.
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S… Speaker 4 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
So
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
if you want to consider it just in case it does come back.
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
and then that effort and activity needs to be put against it then by
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
all means included so people know it's not officially off yet but it's
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
it's a strange one because even even in our own goals right committee is
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
still forced to perform part of that submission goal to have all IVDR products submitted by the
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
end of this year
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Even if they suddenly go today,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
which will not happen,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
yes,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
proceed with chlamydia,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
there's no way we can get that done in time because of all the work and effort required,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
right? I think it's highly unlikely
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
that this product continues,
7:52
S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
but it's doing the rounds
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
through the marketing debates,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
like many other topics,
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
the marketing debates at the moment.
8:01
S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Okay.
8:02
S… Speaker 4 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Okay.
8:04
S… Speaker 4 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Actually,
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S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
that's all for my question.
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S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Okay.
8:13
S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Thank you.
8:14
S… Speaker 2 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Thank you for your...
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S… Speaker 2 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Is that it?
8:17
S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Yeah.
8:17
S… Speaker 2 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Yes.
8:18
S… Speaker 2 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Thank you for your time.
8:21
S… Speaker 3 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Thank you.
8:22
S… Speaker 1 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
You're welcome.
8:22
S… Speaker 2 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Let's pick you again soon.
8:24
S… Speaker 2 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Bye.
8:25
S… Speaker 2 (2026-07-15 short PMO)
Bye.

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