Brian 01292026

May 07, 2026 16:34 · 22:15 · English · Whisper Turbo · 2 speakers
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I'm getting mad about things,
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but this one here was just,
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it was constantly just choking and just going
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off.
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And I just happened to be on another,
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jumping to calls and getting on a call with Scott.
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And I was like,
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he just won't stop.
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And I was like,
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and when,
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and I said,
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for one thing on my side,
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I was like, I don't need someone like him micromanaging me.
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I said, this is really making me mad.
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And so Scott was like,
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well, I'll have a talk with him,
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you and Larry.
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Well,
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with you and Larry.
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And usually when that happens,
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you know,
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Scott will get focused on something else and move on.
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So I ended up reaching out to Larry.
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I know Larry's going to have a talk with him.
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And then he just,
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you know, he said it before that he said,
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well, you have all the permission in the world to kind of,
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you know, put him,
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set him straight if you want.
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So the thing that he was doing was it was,
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he was complaining about your ADD at
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the time.
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And,
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you know,
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the thing was,
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if he knew what he was doing,
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it wasn't an issue,
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right?
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This was a,
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we know that you're authorized to do what you're doing.
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He just made it be a big deal.
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I think we got that settled.
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Oh, that's good.
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I just wanted,
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I know you had mentioned something in the chat.
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Yeah, I just wondered how the conversation went.
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Okay.
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I do need,
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and this is for everybody,
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if you haven't,
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just update your asset in that little worksheet that kind of,
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whatever testing asset you're using.
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Yeah, I saw that.
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I took care of that.
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I put two entries in,
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one for my Windows machine and one for my WSL.
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Okay.
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So that should be all set.
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Okay.
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Before I do that COP thing,
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is there anything else that you wanted to discuss?
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No, I don't think so.
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So,
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you know, of all the people,
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I figured that you were the one,
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you know, voiced the big opinion on,
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right, of the very beginning when we talked about all of this.
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So, you know,
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based on your pay range,
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yours is from 98,
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midpoint is 123,
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and your top end is 148.
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Of course,
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this is your salary right here,
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right, your current salary.
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So,
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you know, again,
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your comp ratio is 1 .145,
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which you can do the math and figure that out.
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So that puts you at the 86th percentile,
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which is...
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kind of on the high end right it is kind of approaching the high end
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of midpoint so um you know we
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still have room there um within this this
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pay rate what happens when it gets to the top so the
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top is so the top will happen what will
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happen there is you will either get a lump
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sum or we have to get you into you know the next level
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the next P level.
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So I think we still have some time for
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that.
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And again,
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going to the next P level is just going
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to widen or broaden
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your range for the most part.
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Now this range does kind of shift to the right every year.
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Don't even know how much that was on your range.
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Try to follow it.
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At times,
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but I'm happy that I'm actually able to show you now.
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You know,
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and it was,
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you know,
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how that came about was,
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you know,
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I had been asking Scott ever since we brought it up early on,
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right, about being able to show you guys.
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And then.
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We were forbidden to do it.
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And I was only able to give you a cop ratio.
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This is all I was able to give you and tell you where
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you're above or below mid.
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And I have a feeling that
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others complained.
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And just recently,
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management or HR came out and said,
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we can now show you the range.
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So I sent Scott that communication that came out,
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and then he brought it up yesterday and showed me mine.
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I said, well, thank God,
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because I never knew what mine was,
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ever.
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Even at IBM.
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I know you guys were able to find it,
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but I think that since I was in Merge,
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there was some reason why I wasn't able to even see mine.
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And we were on a...
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different even though we got paid by abm i still got checked
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for merch oh wow yeah yeah it was always
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different so that's why when y 'all kept saying that way back when i came
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on board that oh we always knew what ours were like i didn't
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know but i hope this is helpful um
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and give you an idea right and um you know
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that we can uh give you a visual of that so
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Any questions?
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No,
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I don't have any questions on that.
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It's just interesting
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to see where the different bands are.
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Because,
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I mean, I started out in a university
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environment, and there's no surprises there.
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I mean, everything's published.
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It tells you,
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you know, for band,
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I was band eight,
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which doesn't matter.
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But for every band,
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5, 6,
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7, 8,
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9, 10,
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all the way up to the head of the university.
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It showed what the bands were for Band 8.
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It would say,
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okay, the band is from $50 ,000 to $70 ,000.
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And for Band 9,
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it's from $60 ,000 to $90 ,000.
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And so you knew what every band was.
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And beyond that,
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because it was university,
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they published everybody's salary in the local
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paper every year.
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That was always fun.
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That was always a fun week.
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Where everybody would get the local,
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it was the Michigan Daily,
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because it's University of Michigan,
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would get the Michigan Daily and then look up everybody else,
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see what everybody else was making,
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which is,
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that was always interesting.
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Wow.
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Yeah, I never worked with the university as having public display
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of that, obviously in the military.
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You know what everybody's making in the military.
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Yeah, I know.
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Same thing.
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Yeah, I know.
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I thought Paul's comments were kind of funny this morning where he
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mentioned that because,
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yeah,
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I mean, the only reason in a professional environment to do that is so that I
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don't know why they do it.
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Somehow they say,
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well, you know, professionals don't discuss their pay,
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and it's like, well, everybody else on the planet does.
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Oh,
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well. Oh,
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well. Yeah.
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Honestly, I don't do it simply because I swear this must have just
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stuck with me early on when I was watching one of the Seinfeld
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episodes and there's Jerry.
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He's kind of,
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you know,
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dealing out this cash and Elaine's looking in like,
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and he's just counting it.
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And she's like,
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oh,
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you make that kind of money.
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Oh, yeah.
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Her whole demeanor changes.
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Oh, yeah.
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I remember that.
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Yeah,
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I remember that.
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Yeah.
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It's always stuck with me.
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I'm like, I just,
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you know, I just won't tell anybody.
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Right.
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They cut through and they change.
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So,
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yeah,
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let's see.
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I do want to see,
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you know, and I do have a call.
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Larry posted a call for next week.
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I'll give y 'all more insight into,
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you know,
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fabric.
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Oh,
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yeah. I'm going to get some details into that and try to bring more on.
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I know he's got some of his team on board,
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but I said I wanted to get the idea of how we're going to map that out for
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the year because,
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like you mentioned,
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this is not an easy task.
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And Scott is on this freaking,
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I don't
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know what to call it, but he's really wanting everybody to.
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Yeah,
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there you go.
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Yep, crusade.
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And he's wanting everybody to know,
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like.
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BI,
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Power BI,
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like Excel or PowerPoint,
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right?
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And be that.
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It's
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easy. All he's got to do is assign stuff.
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You know,
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Scott's got to do more than just general assignments that I want everybody
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to know Power BI.
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I mean,
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that's okay.
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That's great.
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But who have you assigned anything to?
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You made a statement to the organization.
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You know,
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you know,
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pick a small thing,
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say, hey, I want you to use I want you to use Power BI and show me your
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results in six weeks.
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Yeah.
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You know, funny you say that.
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That's what that's what next week's call is about,
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is we're going to try to take what Scott's vision is and
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try to figure it out and,
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you know, break that out.
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So,
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yeah,
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I do.
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Yeah.
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On the fabric stuff,
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I went into.
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into Gemini and said,
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the CISO wants to use
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Microsoft Fabric to track cybersecurity metrics.
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um what do i need to know and and develop a project plan
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and it develops a project plan that says okay um this is going to take six
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to nine months just to get rolling before you oh wow i
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mean yeah i mean this is and
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uh so
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Well, we'll see.
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But, you know,
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you got to make people specifically accountable.
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You can't just say,
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you know, I want a metric board.
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Okay,
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great.
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So,
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you know,
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I want a Mercedes,
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but I'm not getting that either.
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You know, so,
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oh,
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well. Yeah,
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you just need to,
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I think he needs to have a more targeted approach,
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a limited targeted approach on what he wants specifically and what he would like
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to see first.
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because it's just so broad.
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I mean, and I understand you go to a conference and you see somebody who's been
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working on this for a year and a half and they,
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yeah,
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you give me a year and a half,
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I'll show you a nice demo too,
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but not going to happen.
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S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Yeah, you know, some of these places like that,
11:05
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
they have the bandwidth to do it.
11:07
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
We don't.
11:08
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
That's another thing,
11:09
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
right? They have developers.
11:11
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Yeah.
11:12
S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
You know,
11:13
S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
when I was at,
11:14
S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
again, back to the university,
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S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
when I was there,
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S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
they had 50 freaking developers working
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S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
in IT.
11:21
S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
We have no developers.
11:23
S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
We don't have any software developers,
11:26
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
you know,
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S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
or even they were developing original software.
11:30
S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
We didn't even have, you know,
11:31
S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
teams working specific on those things.
11:34
S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
So, I mean,
11:35
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
well,
11:36
S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
good luck.
11:38
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Right.
11:40
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Yeah, I think another part of that is,
11:43
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
I think it comes from the top down from Scott.
11:45
S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
I'm sure it does.
11:46
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
And he kind of just throws that out there.
11:50
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
And I do know for a fact that Nick,
11:53
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
whatever reason,
11:54
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
okay,
11:56
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
so I envision,
11:58
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
I have this vision,
12:00
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
right?
12:00
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
But Nick is really into trusting
12:04
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
anything AI says.
12:08
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
That's the feedback I'm getting.
12:10
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
And that when he says something in
12:14
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
AI, he takes it for absolute truth.
12:18
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
He wants that done.
12:20
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
So my vision is Nick has his new buddy
12:24
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
is AI, right?
12:25
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
He's found him a partner.
12:26
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
So I
12:30
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
think that gets filtered down to Scott.
12:32
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
And then Scott's got to figure out a way to say,
12:34
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
hey, not quite.
12:35
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
We've got different things,
12:37
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
right?
12:39
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
So I think a lot of that gets filtered down.
12:42
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
And Scott is just...
12:44
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Well,
12:45
S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
if you hear anything specific that he would like to do or whatever,
12:47
S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
you know, I'm certainly willing to work on it.
12:50
S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
And it sounds interesting.
12:51
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Yeah.
12:52
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Oh, it definitely does.
12:54
S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
And it sounds like something I might be able to add some value to.
12:56
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Yeah.
12:58
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
I know I started playing with the BI a little bit and just doing a file drop and
13:02
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
letting it kind of do what it does.
13:04
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
And it was pretty neat.
13:08
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
And pull from that.
13:09
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
But I had a whole,
13:12
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
there's a lot of work still involved in that too.
13:14
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
When you watch these
13:18
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
videos and you watch some of these guys do it,
13:20
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
man, they just make it look so simple.
13:22
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
And you do.
13:24
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Yeah,
13:26
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
yeah.
13:27
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Anything
13:36
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
else going on?
13:38
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
I don't think so.
13:39
S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
There's a couple of there's a couple of tickets still out there that aren't that
13:43
S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
are just task tickets.
13:44
S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
And there's some tickets that are still out there assigned to the node
13:48
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
before he was fired.
13:50
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
So, oh,
13:51
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
shoot.
13:52
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
I got to look at those.
13:53
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Take a look at those.
13:54
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Yeah.
13:56
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
We got that.
13:59
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Yeah.
14:01
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
As far as this morning's discussion.
14:03
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Yeah, that was I thought that.
14:08
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
services was um it doesn't seem to me that
14:12
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
services is really picking up some of those requests but
14:17
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
when you brought that up i was like well yeah we have a process
14:21
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
we put it i forgot until we started talking more into it that we have
14:25
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
the loop and channel but i don't think i'm i'm gonna bring
14:29
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
that up to larry i don't think they're they're working or
14:33
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
taking the
14:36
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
active role and you know or at least letting us know what they're doing no
14:41
S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
they're definitely not letting us know what they're doing that was my thing about you
14:45
S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
know there are their tickets there and I'm not I understand and
14:50
S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
I think I don't think I was clear this morning they
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S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
can go and develop new stuff and they just need
14:58
S… Speaker 2 (Brian 01292026)
to let us know
15:00
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
But there were five tickets that showed up today for incidents
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S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
that we had never seen before,
15:06
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
which means,
15:09
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
which tells me that that test,
15:12
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
the test that they were doing,
15:13
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
was just implemented.
15:15
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
This is not a test that has,
15:18
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
this is not a log query that has been out there
15:22
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
for two years that we just saw our first event.
15:25
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
It's telling me that somebody just flipped a switch and
15:29
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
turned this on.
15:31
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
In that process,
15:33
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
I don't know.
15:34
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
It's okay to do that,
15:36
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
but we didn't know that was coming.
15:38
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
It would be nice.
15:39
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Hey, we're turning on this new switch,
15:41
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
and you might see these new alerts.
15:43
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Right.
15:45
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
I have a feeling that's a
15:49
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Ryan thing.
15:49
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
I think that's a Ryan thing.
15:52
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
I'm sure it's a Ryan thing.
15:57
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
As far as the loop stuff goes,
15:59
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
that's great.
16:00
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
That's not actionable.
16:01
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Like I said this morning,
16:02
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
you make changes in service now,
16:05
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
it's somehow going to bubble up.
16:08
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
You know, there are going to be SLAs.
16:10
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Somebody is going to look at that sometime.
16:11
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
And you can't just erase the entry,
16:14
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
which is real nice.
16:17
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
All the rest of our systems,
16:18
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
you can pretty much erase the stuff.
16:20
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
I mean, yeah, you could find it,
16:21
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
go through logs and stuff.
16:23
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
You know,
16:24
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
when I take that and sign it back over,
16:26
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
I fully expect that there's going to be a bit of uproar
16:30
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
on why are we getting,
16:31
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
why is,
16:32
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
why is.
16:33
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
mark or why is security operations assigning all these in tune
16:37
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
tickets back to us why are they assigning all these uh these
16:41
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
these other things that are informational back to us so i expect that but
16:46
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
but that's okay um they'll at least get addressed because they're in service now my
16:50
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
feeling and you know i mean and because now they now they have to deal with
16:54
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
them they either have to close them
16:57
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
And sign to somebody and close them or sign them back to us.
17:00
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
But it will certainly stimulate a discussion because,
17:03
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
you know,
17:03
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
I understand.
17:05
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Keep the logs.
17:06
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
That's great.
17:07
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
But if we can't,
17:08
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
if there's nothing,
17:09
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
and I didn't understand what you're saying.
17:12
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Let me back up for a second.
17:13
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
I didn't understand what you're saying about the Intune stuff and change tickets.
17:15
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Are you saying that every time that there's a change to the Intune
17:20
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
system by one of those administrators that they're supposed to put a change
17:24
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
ticket in?
17:26
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
That was the information I got from Ryan.
17:28
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Why?
17:29
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
I mean,
17:31
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
is this just daily?
17:32
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Because there's a certain notion of standard
17:38
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
operating procedures and just standard daily work.
17:41
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
I don't know how that
17:45
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
works.
17:45
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
What stuff?
17:48
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Is it changed to a production system?
17:50
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Yeah, I suppose it is.
17:51
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
So this should be a change request?
17:53
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
I don't know.
18:00
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
And that's,
18:01
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
yeah,
18:02
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
I mean, either way,
18:04
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
I think that that can try to be just captured over at DC Ops.
18:08
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
It didn't seem like it'd be a security operator.
18:10
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
So,
18:11
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
yeah, I didn't want us,
18:13
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
you know, if that was the case,
18:14
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
and when he said,
18:15
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
you know,
18:16
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
we just got to look up the change request ticket,
18:19
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
I'm like, well, that's not something we,
18:20
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
you know, that's not a security thing.
18:24
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
That's an administrative thing.
18:26
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
There's no security component to that.
18:30
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
There's an administrative component.
18:31
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
I mean, if they want to log it and kept it,
18:33
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
that's great,
18:34
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
but there's no threat.
18:36
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
There's no security threat.
18:39
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Yeah,
18:41
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
exactly.
18:41
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
We'll see.
18:42
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
Like I said,
18:43
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
give it back to them.
18:45
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 01292026)
We'll see what happens.

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