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   Глава 1: and then they would subcontract some of that work to us we can do that we can what we did with Zico what we did with Helmy I mean, that is something that we can definitely look into thank you yeah, so that's the main way that we work I mean, there's also the inverse relationship where we are maybe the main party in this and that we need some kind of local support but I mean, in this case we don't have other work in Malaysia so at this time, you know we are the ones who provide you the research to go to the people that you need to go to to make the case for some kind of policy that you want to make will you also be able to consider you mentioned that it could be subcontractions but can you also consider building the proposal together? 315s · Speaker 1

   and then they would subcontract some of that work to us we can do that we can what we did with Zico what we did with Helmy I mean, that is something that we can definitely look into thank you yeah, so that's the main way that we work I mean…

2. 5:16

   Глава 2: Innovation, by principle, can happen at any time. 300s · Speaker 1

   Innovation, by principle, can happen at any time. And it is very important for the government's policy to address those innovations. So what we propose in the government, which at the moment you'll be talking nicely to the government, you d…

3. 10:17

   Глава 3: we'll have civil society related members we'll have the past few days then we'll have the cadavicians okay so most of the talks that we do does not it's not open to public to a certain extent primarily because the nature of the things yeah we discuss yeah also so the government will attend the round table we do enjoy some form of relationship for them to attend the only differentiating factor is when are they going to actively participate or they're just gonna sit there listen and take notes yeah yeah okay so that's that's your challenge but at least they have that they have one foot in the door they are there yeah at least they're there they want to listen they want to sort of like learn new things yeah and one of the things that we learned from the participant when we did our fair earnings quite a number of them like actually we never thought of this problem from this angle so i'm like in the back of my hand i'm like yes that's why you should listen to people like us and you should attend yeah all these kind of things because it gives you what they will give you a different picture of every king yeah because i think we are trying to position ourselves to be more friendlier to the government because for the first year we've been seen as two two stars yeah we were two now this year we are more like we are stick to yb hannah or very good program but i think we can do better like last time is a balance last time is more like what the hell are you doing this is more praise first and then propose new better uh policy but i think we are we are getting there that's why we we got the support from the government agencies um but again like i said if bit come into picture i believe that will be more the credibility of the data will be more strong because you guys are coming from the research site right yeah and then that research that science before we can do this yeah and i think it has to be local as well i mean i'm not sure what in the countries that malaysia typically refers to in its policies but yeah sometimes when we share you know research that's done around the world people say yes yes i believe you know i agree that all of these things work but will it work in malaysia so yeah i think the important thing is that there needs to be research in malaysia with malaysia so that they can say you know this is what how the malaysia responded is not or this is what it's like in us and it won't work here i think i think the the the missing part is when you didn't understand not not you yeah them didn't understand the importance of having a benchmark uh and normally when we do a benchmark studies it will you will go through the entire research in that particular spectrum around around the globe and then you start to you know comparing apple to apple right so i i don't think they appreciate that part of process uh but of course i agree with you that we do make it local yeah we can also do it with the cilt because we also uh corporate affiliate partners to charter digital emergency and transport okay so they also most of them are coming from universities they have their own research house like my trans my trans they also have like latra latra utm latra utm my trans uitm uh and other other research group from universities because in in this country there not much research house i think i don't think there are many research houses focusing focusing on transport and you might have transport consultant but research house i don't think we have so most of the time research house will be from the university research groups right yeah so we can we can have another partnership with another research group yep i can i think we can we can go with latra because latra we had an early discussion last time but we never made a latra or what is a uitm you can do that mou and then we can i think for now perhaps we should start with with just a mou and strategize by the shin We were sort of exploring and as we move forward, we look into all the other partnerships and I think one of the lowest hanging fruit that we could work together on is primarily the DSP one and then the second one is the BKL is some of the local council is due for their prior planning review. 309s · Speaker 1

   we'll have civil society related members we'll have the past few days then we'll have the cadavicians okay so most of the talks that we do does not it's not open to public to a certain extent primarily because the nature of the things yeah …

4. 15:26

   Глава 4: Right, I think end of the year. 302s · Speaker 1

   Right, I think end of the year. Okay, yeah I think that would be interesting so I mean even in the 12th and 13th Malaysia plans they mentioned behavioural insights as a way to try and change behaviour so I think the good thing is that you a…

5. 20:28

   Глава 5: That's it. 302s · Speaker 1

   That's it. Then you start, people will be angry. Oh, Kajang to K.L. Kajang to K.L. I mean, you just need to do it. Because in this country, like I said, every policy that I share, it's purely political. But we can agree with that. The probl…

6. 25:34

   Глава 6: Like Bank Negara, PIDM, because they have a research team so they've asked us to do a few research pieces for them over the years. 121s · Speaker 1

   Like Bank Negara, PIDM, because they have a research team so they've asked us to do a few research pieces for them over the years. Then we can talk to PRI, PNPRI, I think PNPRI is something that we can explore. Because a lot of the, before …