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dangerous to have and to live in this reinforcing
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loop when we are not in a situation
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that our lives,
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that our existence is in danger.
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So it's really important when we are dealing
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with these kind of situations.
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that we are not observing the data and we
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are not taking quick actions based on that.
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What has helped us stay alive for many,
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many years and survive this dangerous world
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put us in a very dangerous loop.
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right now because we're just dealing with a different pace.
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We're just dealing with a different situation.
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Sana's camera being off does not threaten
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my existence,
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but my brain does not recognize that.
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A feedback that we get from our bosses telling
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Radia,
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you did not clock in on time.
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Her truth got triggered.
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does not threaten her existence,
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but our brain receives it as threatening our
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existence.
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So now we need to make sure that we
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are not taking decisions from right up here.
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We come down step by step and deal with the
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raw data.
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We come down step by step and deal with the raw data.
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One might wonder,
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how do I come down of these steps of the ladder?
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Well,
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There are two different types of questions we can ask.
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One of them is inquiry.
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When we ask inquiry questions to understand and
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seek more information,
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when we are asking and trying to see what
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is the person's meaning and paraphrasing what they're telling us,
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clarifying and asking follow -up questions,
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we come down the ladder step by step.
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Instead,
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sometimes we fall into this mistake of asking advocacy
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questions.
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Advocacy is not a bad thing in its own,
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but it does not help us come down the ladder in France.
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In contrast,
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it keeps us up here and tells us,
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yeah, this is the right place to be,
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and I better defend this position,
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and I better defend this action that I've taken.
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It helps me to state my own view again.
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describing what I think how things should be done,
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expressing judgment,
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and urging a course of action,
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and giving orders that
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advocate and that defend a position that I
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am believing in.
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So one might wonder,
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what does an advocacy question look like,
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supposedly a question?
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Something would be like,
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I don't necessarily fall out on Sana right away,
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but I say, hey guys,
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I think we all agree that we're turning our cameras.
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Didn't we?
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This sounds like a question,
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but it doesn't really help me understand why
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Sana doesn't have her phone.
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It just states my position and
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it enforces what I believe in.
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When it comes to inquiry question,
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it would be something like,
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Hi, Sana, I noticed that you don't have your camera on.
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Is everything okay?
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And she would say,
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well, there are a lot of people moving behind me,
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and that's why I need to turn off my camera.
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Or I'm in a very crowded place.
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That's why I need to turn off my camera.
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I can ask a follow -up question and say,
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how long do you think you were going to be there?
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How long something might happen?
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Or my computer needed to restart.
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I didn't want to be able to restart it.
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So now I cannot turn on my camera.
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A lot of technological issues happen.
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So when I'm asking inquiry questions,
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I'm really trying to understand and seek more information
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from the person that I'm dealing with so I
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can find that common ground.
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If you think about this,
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this takes us back.
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This creates a full circle moment and taking us back to our
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first session of identifying interests.
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How do we identify interests?
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By asking questions that allows us to understand our
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counterparts rather than advocating for something that we believe
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in. In no way am I asking you not to advocate for
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yourself.
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If you remember in the first slide,
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negotiation is this tension between learning and
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persuading.
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So there might be some times that this is necessary,
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but the learning is really important to help us
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understand our counterparts.
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So to summarize it,
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when we...
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Ask inquiry questions,
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we are understanding their thinking and reasoning.
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When we are asking advocacy questions,
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you're making your own thinking and reasoning visible
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to others.
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We're just signaling again and saying,
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my position,
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my thinking is everyone should have their cameras on rather
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than trying to understand why Sana does not have her
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camera on.
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I have my ladder.
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That means my counterpart also has their ladders as well.
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If I notice something,
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if I observe a data,
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I notice it,
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I interpret it based on assumptions and experiences.
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I reach a conclusion and take an action,
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my counterpart also has the same thing on their end.
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So it's really important to acknowledge that I'm not the
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only person on top of a ladder.
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I'm also dealing with someone else who might have jumped on top
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of their ladder and learn how do I help
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myself come down step by step.
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And how do I help them come down step by step?
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Both of them is through asking inquiry questions.
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We come to a definition.
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I would like for you to read through these two definitions and let me know
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which one do you think is the correct definition of
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naive realism.
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First definition is believe that your basic perceptions
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of how the world works in terms of social and physical reality
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are mostly right.
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or believe that others' perceptions are distorted
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and biased based on their experiences,
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identities,
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and so on.
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So when you read this one,
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which one do you think it's a good fit for something that
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is called naive realism?
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Either
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put number one or number two.
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I love the
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division among numbers.
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Sahra, you were the first person who put two in the chat.
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Are you able to unmute yourself and tell us why do you think it's the
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second one?
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So
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I think naive itself means that something which
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is not a
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very harmful thought.
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It's something which you're not really aware of.
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So a naive realism can be somebody who believes that
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somebody else's perception is not right.
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Rather than believing their own perception,
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it's thinking that,
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okay, fine, this person has done this because he might have not thought about
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it or he might have assumed.
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So it's more of an assumption.
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So that's the reason I feel it's the second one.
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And your feeling is correct 100%.
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The second definition is the correct definition of naive realism.
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A lot of the times we tend to pretend that we don't really
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have all the answers.
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And we do not pretend that we have all
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the answers.
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But gosh,
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that other group,
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their experience,
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their life stories,
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their history has shaped the way that they are being biased,
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has shaped the way that they show up.
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It is so easy for us to evaluate others.
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really understand them and identify their biases.
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But it's incredibly difficult for us to identify
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our own biases and identify what is it that we
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are biased about and what is it that we do not necessarily see
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correctly.
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So it's really important to know
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that it's easier for us to judge others and evaluate
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others rather than evaluate ourselves.
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So what we can do.
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How do we use the light of inference to help ourselves
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rather than taking an action and saying,
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well, what do you think?
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It's that group.
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This is how they will react.
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Instead of taking this action and saying this,
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it is really important for me to understand and ask myself a
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lot of questions.
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What is it about this group that I believe and I think about them this
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way? Why do I do this?
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What happened?
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And do I really have concrete evidence
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that every single member of this group...
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acts this specific way and does this thing or is it something that
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I have inherited from my people and then now I'm just singing
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it out loud to to others so it's really
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And we can also use this form of asking inquiry questions to.
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to help ourselves understand that it's not necessary,
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it's not true.
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I am not the holder of the truth,
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the whole truth and everything.
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And the other group is not really,
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their noticing is not biased,
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their assumption is not biased,
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their interpretation is not biased,
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and the conclusions and the kind of actions that they're taking is not biased.
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It helps us to take a step back and be open
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to
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understanding who is it that we're dealing with and what is happening with this
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specific group or with a specific person coming with a specific
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identity that we're dealing with.
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Going back to the example of the camera being off,
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as I mentioned,
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my silly brain has evolved,
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but our brain's main function is to keep us alive.
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It does not care about inventions.
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It does not care about being creative.
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Its main job is to keep us alive and survive in this world.
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So to do this,
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we are looking only at two parts of the brain.
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One of them is the prefrontal cortex,
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and then we have amygdala.
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The prefrontal cortex is the part of the brain that
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is in charge of cognitive control,
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regulating attention,
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decision -making,
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I'm moving my hands,
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volunteering actions and movements,
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reasoning,
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flexibility,
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and response.
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While amygdala from the minute that we wake up in the morning,
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its main job is to scan for threats.
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That's what it does.
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Permanently scans if threat is detected.
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It cannot distinguish between physical and emotional
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threat.
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So in this case,
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when Sana does not have her phone on,
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my brain receives this as a threat.
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Because it's a feedback that I have received after preparing for this session
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and teaching three other sessions.
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I prepared,
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I woke up early,
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prepared for the session,
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went on a walk,
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and I want to come and show up in this session fully active and engaging.
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But no,
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she doesn't have her camera on.
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So it receives it as a threat.
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It's things that might...
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Physical existence is in danger and it triggers a
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hormone to activate a fight or flight mode.
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Either I confront her and say,
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I thought we all agreed that we will have our cameras on.
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Sana,
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what's happening?
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Or I'm flying away from the situation,
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ignoring it and taking that action,
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hoping that she's going to come back into the session with her camera on
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after I altered my whole session.
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When the amygdala hijack happens,
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it literally,
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this little teeny tiny thing that we see down here takes over
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the prefrontal area of our brain,
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which means if something gets hijacked,
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that means our prefrontal area loses the ability
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to stay flexible in response.
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to do a rational reasoning and our
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cognitive control kind of gets lost.
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So it's really important for us to identify and to know
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when something triggers us,
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how does this trigger show up and how do we deal with
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it?
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The good thing about when we're looking at amygdala hijack,
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it doesn't stay forever.
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It has a specific window of time,
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and then it goes away.
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But one thing that is really important,
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if we remain in this amygdala hijack,
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state.
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And if it keeps occurring and occurring and occurring,
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which means that we have given our control of our emotions to everyone
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else to manage,
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it eventually leads to PTSD and eventually leads to a
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lot of further damages that we do not want to deal with.
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When we have an amygdala hijack,
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it shows up in different ways.
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It shows up as stress,
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as being fearful,
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anxiety,
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aggression,
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anger.
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God knows I know which one is mine,
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which is a lot of anger.
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So it's really important to identify when my amygdala
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gets hijacked,
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what is in me that happens.
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A lot of physical changes happen.
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Our breathing becomes really shallow.
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So it keeps pumping blood into our hearts.
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So we're ready to attack.
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Our vision becomes really narrow that we're only focusing
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on that specific thing that is.
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threatening our existence.
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We do not see.
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We do not necessarily see what's happening around us.
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We're only focusing on that one thing.
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We might be sweating.
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We might be hyperventilating and so
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on. So next time you are identifying some of these symptoms
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in yourself,
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it's important to take to reflect.
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on them and see how does this show up for us it has happened
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to us it is going to happen to us because that's what our amygdala
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is responsible it needs to identify threats and help
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us to keep stay alive when amygdala
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hijack happens when it takes over our prefrontal cortex it
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takes 20 minutes to overcome an amygdala hijack
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Sometimes this is really important.
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Sometimes it's not.
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Sometimes it is important because,
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okay, I need 20 minutes.
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I need to exit from this situation.
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Sometimes we do not necessarily have the whole 20 minutes.
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When I was teaching this session to a group of professionals in
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Iraq, one of them said,
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he said,
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I know my relationship trigger.
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I know as soon as this person shows up,
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I am about to lose it.
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So I've come up with this coping mechanism.
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uh knowing that they're going to be negative coming my way as soon as they approach
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my desk i say
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how about we go to the kitchen and make a cup of tea together?
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Because I know my body needs this movement to stay regulated
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and not to have my emotions take advantage of
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me and take control over me.
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So it is important.
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That's why it's important to identify our triggers because it helps us prepare
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and try to calm down our situation and our nervous
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system that we do not get easily hijacked.
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As I mentioned,
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these triggers that we deal with,
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if we go to work on time and our boss says,
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are you late?
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Then the truth trigger gets activated or the person that comes our
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way or our identity gets triggered.
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And our amygdala thinks that this is an existential crisis
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and it needs to do something about it.
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We either have to fight this person for our own
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existence and stay for our own survival or...
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we have to fly from that situation.
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To overcome an amygdala hijack,
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as I mentioned,
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we need to wait for about 20 minutes.
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Some stuff that helps us before I put this here,
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I want to stop sharing my screen because I do know you guys all
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have different mechanisms of dealing with these
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hijacks.
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I want to learn,
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and we all have the space to learn from each other,
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what would be some of the ways that can help you or
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what have been some of the ways that has helped you to calm down.
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when an amygdala hijack has happened.
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Or,
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to put it yet,
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we didn't know,
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perhaps we didn't know it's called amygdala hijack,
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when you get angry,
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what are some of the things,
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angry, stressful,
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fearful,
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what are some of the ways that we've been able to bring ourselves back to our
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sanity and try to stay in control?
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Asim,
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please go ahead.
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Yeah, so I think this I have learned from my
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therapist only.
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They used to take this from the killer hijacks a lot.
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So now what I do whenever I have this triggers,
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so I close my eyes for a second.
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I take a step back,
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close my eyes and try to focus on my breath.
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Like how it has changed,
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how it is changing.
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Like is it sharp?
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It is deep.
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How is it going?
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Then slowly I try to keep them like.
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Focus on my breath and get down slowly.
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And once I'm breathing normally,
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I drink a glass of water.
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And that's how I try to manage my triggers.
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And this has helped me a lot to actually come out
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of my triggers.
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Amazing.
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Thank you so much for sharing.
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Thank you.
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Maria,
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please go ahead.
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uh so for me i just think i think in a bigger picture
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point of view not the immediate actions that i need to take it's like
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like two years or three years down the line uh you know how will
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it actually affect me how is this particular situation going to pan out
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and you know why i am taking so much amount of pressure because of the situation at
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this current moment because the moment i look back into my previous issues
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or anything that used to give me a lot of anxiety and anything
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When I look back right now,
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I don't care about all those things.
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These are very small things which is happening.
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And over the time,
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big things end up happening to us.
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So it's like I just think about a bigger picture that why I am giving so much
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power of the situation right now to this particular thing and putting
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myself down in a bad place.
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Like, you know, when I just end up thinking I am getting depressed or something,
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I just need to pull myself.
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Like I become this third person kind of a...
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this entire situation where i need to pull myself out thinking you know
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i can't be down i can't be depressed i can't do this because i
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will not be able to function so i just start thinking in a third person kind
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of a view
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point to get myself out of that place and i think it really helps
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me in the long run not at that point of time essentially
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but in the longer and when i keep on thinking and putting myself into that
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place i think i i end up putting myself out
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of the situation amazing thank you so much maria that that's
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really beautiful thank you for sharing uh please go ahead yeah
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hi
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shan so for me it is like
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most of the time I will get you know so what I
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feel is I most of the time I before not now I
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used to have this impulsive reaction kind of a thing I will just tell whatever
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I'm thinking and later I used to face the consequences and stuff so
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now what I learned over time is that whenever I'm getting angry or these
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kind of anger issues or this anxiety issues so I just stop
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responding to that person and they just keep quiet for like
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half an hour to one one hour or whatever it is so that i will just calm down
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myself and don't uh i don't want to you know uh going
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further i don't want to speak and it will be back and forth the things will go
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on back and forth and it doesn't help anywhere to me that is what i got to
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learn with my personal experience so most of the time it is helping me now
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and whenever i will feel angry now i'll just keep quiet and i will just give
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that calm down to my brain and
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Once I'm settled down,
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then I will think about it,
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if I need to talk about it or not.
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And that's how I'm dealing with it right now.
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Yeah,
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beautiful.
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Thank you so much for sharing.
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Yesterday, this thing came up,
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like when you're at work,
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something happens.
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You can definitely write the email while you're angry,
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just to let some of that negative energy leave you.
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But don't send it while you're still angry.
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Give it room to breathe and then go back to it later.
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Javaria,
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please go ahead.
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Yeah, so I had this habit of really engaging in when I used
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to be triggered.
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Like if somebody has triggered me,
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I used to fight back.
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I used to be like,
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why, what,
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and ask questions.
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And that used to trigger me even more.
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It didn't help me.
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So I've come to realize that it's pointless to do that.
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And I do think that you mentioned,
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I journal sometimes.
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Sometimes I just leave a long message and don't send the person the message.
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And apart from that,
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I try to immediately get back to the routine that I...
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that i'm in suppose if i have not had my lunch instead of focusing on having an
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argument with the person or just being triggered again and again i will focus
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on getting my lunch done so that my like i think it
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helps in uh like if you're hungry you'll become hungry so
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that kind of adds up so
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this way like if then I realize that I've maybe I've not had water like
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I'm thirsty then I will drink water all these things just to
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like basically to get back into the routine not focus on the uh on
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the trigger so that has helped me I love it so
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just before I go to Sana I want to say something
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In no way do I tell you to stay silent and not defend yourself
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when you are violated.
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What we need to do is not to do it while we're angry,
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not to let our amygdala drive the conversation,
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but rather when we come back to our prefrontal cortex,
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that is when we want to go back and defend ourselves.
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That is when we want to go back and make a rational argument.

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