meeting with the ministry 4
Jun 17, 2026 04:38
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so okay what is making it difficult for
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you to surrender the offline office did not meet us running
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online system before they engage us so mostly did
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not invest to us to build an offline product for
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them they saw that we are doing offline and they requested that
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we provide them with the services so the product was not was
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not developed by mobsy the product already exists years
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so many years back 10 years before we came to mobs i get
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the point so it is not just about social mobile here we
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have a larger group and even this thing that you're talking about right now i have to also
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pass it to the uh so what
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we need to do here is very simple understand the
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we have said this over and over again the the
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island gambia came
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came into play in 2023.
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I get the point.
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That was when we designed all the island gabiats.
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From 2020 to 2022,
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we are using totally offline.
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You understand?
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That was when they said,
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okay, let us go into a...
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You understand?
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So let us not begin to complicate all the things.
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Understand?
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So if the team here wants the offline
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solution...
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as it is important in the implementation.
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We come as clean and
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discuss the delivery and
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adaptation procedures.
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Not demanding
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for the offline
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algorithm in the manner at which it is being discussed here.
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Okay, can I come?
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I think for me,
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I'm seeing like they're just beating around.
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You're hearing something.
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He has this concern.
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Does the offline have any implication if you give us online?
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No.
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If you want the online,
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we give you the online.
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But if you give us the online and fold on the offline,
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are we still able to use our online?
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Yeah,
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you can use the online.
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What control would you have which we would not know?
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What does that conclude?
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You have your technical idea.
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You have your technical idea.
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We are the ones
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that are supposed to sound suspicious.
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I was comfortable when he started this conference.
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I'm becoming uncomfortable now.
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Because my friend is not,
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seemed to be very open.
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I said,
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here, if you have an issue to do
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with me offline,
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that's something we can sit over and leave.
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What is possible,
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give it up.
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Now,
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he asked the question,
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cloud owner,
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administrators,
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you know,
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you have your own technologies.
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But there,
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he said,
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However, however,
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which implies that there is something still you are attaching to
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the handover.
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You said it's Moses' property.
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He come
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back to get,
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if we are to hand over,
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we'll give you the invoices of the past.
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So it means we
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are also,
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and that's why I said you cannot eat your cake and have it.
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Come out plainly and tell us what
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you really want.
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And this is making me believe,
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even when I was told that official mobile is not
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ready to let this go.
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And if the minister was here,
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I would say.
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Because all what has been said was not
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said, I was not admitted,
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but it was not said,
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they are clear.
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We will have no vote.
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We will vote.
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Why do you vote?
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If you are able to do it,
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let's do it.
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If you are not able to do it,
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let us know.
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Then we will inform the minister and take it from there.
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Okay, I think there's a niche understanding here in terms of content
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specific.
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Which one one need to understand.
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That the online version and the offline version are completely different
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things.
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The offline version is the product of Fusion Mobile.
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They domesticated to the need specific as
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demanded by the ministry at the time of need.
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But they withhold intellectual property rights of it.
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So we are saying that we can give you the online
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solution.
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Which is theirs.
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Which is theirs.
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This is the content that MOFSI gave you to...
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No, MOFSI does not give us.
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The online.
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Let you understand.
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The offline,
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the online version is a system that we built for MOFSI.
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That is the island Gambia.
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We say we don't have any problem of giving it because even the maintenance
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of it, the subscriptions were all paid by us.
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Open, complete of different contracts that we are engaged with.
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Then we continue to pay it.
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Sidi, Dr.
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Sidi is here.
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If we have not continued paying the server,
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nothing will be existing there.
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It will all go.
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It happens to the University of the Gambia.
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We had a running system,
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a server,
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that we defaulted in paying everything,
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content, everything went.
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Deleted.
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Yes,
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because the people who own it,
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where you are subscribing,
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doesn't know how important it is to them.
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Hold on
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now, let's conclude this model.
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We bear the cost of maintaining the life sustenance of
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it by paying the subscription so that it becomes vibrant
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and living for the ministry.
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So if they want it,
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we can give that one.
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But the offline version is a product that belongs to Fusion Mobile and
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we own the intellectual property right of that one.
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If you needed that one,
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then we need to go into an engagement of how best.
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Now we're making it clear.
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No, he was asking how best you can continue to use it or
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how best, what component of it you would like to use.
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Then we can go into our community.
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I think it's clear now.
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No,
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my question is,
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you clarify the first part.
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My question,
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the second part is,
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to what extent retaining the offline password
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will
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maintain some control with you.
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Zero.
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I think I understand your question.
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So, like you said,
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at the very beginning,
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the reason why we approached them from ICT was because they had
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an offline solution,
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which at the very beginning was not available.
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And it was one of the quickest ways to take it to the schools.
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And for that,
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it's very true.
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I'm not sure whether they have said the ministry contributed anything towards development.
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That's what I cannot say.
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but if they can verify the message did not contribute to that development like one of the points that is contributed
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then we can say that the the offline version which is totally there
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so now the point now is how do we continue engaging
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new people to make sure that we have that as possible that's one point if you are going
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to contribute um if any time that you want to continue this collaboration that's one
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of the points that we need to talk about and then the other bit has to do with um
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Yes,
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about the connection because
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it's offline and online and usually sometimes it's the offline that
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is feeding from the online.
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the offline system,
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this is the one that's feeding,
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that's representing what is on the online.
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So is there any connection?
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If you happen to break away and say,
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yes, ministry is only on Ireland Gambia online,
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you can use it,
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you can use it on the web,
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fine.
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So we just want to make sure that there's no risk of
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functionality not working because it's not connected online.
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We don't want to say that this is online,
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but it's not working because you have this offline version that you don't pay for.
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So that's just what...
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he's trying to um let me need to be very clear
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yeah let me in simple lemon term let
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me put it like this the offline
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has once the offline content
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content bucket or let me use it what a
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package has been has been fully developed
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It has no other connection with the online.
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The only connection it has is the user's
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data that syncs to the online platform to
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inform administrators
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on how the user goes.
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So in simple terms,
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if you no longer want to use our offline technology and you want
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to have your online.
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We give you the online and totally
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disconnect your
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offline.
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It's as simple as that.
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And again,
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if an offline solution...
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MOPC has not said they don't want the offline.
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No,
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he's just given...
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I'm asking your question.
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No,
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MOPC has not said they don't want the offline.
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How can
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the offline be transferred?
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Is that what we need to provide?
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To MOPC.
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How?
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What are the conditions for the offline transfer
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so that we get a holistic package?
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In asking that,
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I mentioned here earlier,
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we have worked with several institutions that are
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integrated and are still using our offline solutions.
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Right?
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I would say that this is the first institution that is asking us for
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sales. Are you getting the point?
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So if we have to answer this particular question,
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we will think we need to conduct back to our senior partners.
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This is what we must see.
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It's demanding.
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I cannot take a decision here.
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You need
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to escalate the request.
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Of course.
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That's why I said most of
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the issues that we're having here is just maybe the way the communication
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has been bad.
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So let us make it easy.
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I think we have agreed on certain points.
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Yeah,
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what I did is we have agreed that if Moxie want,
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sorry,
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first migration is not advisable.
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Alright,
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we agreed on migration is advisable.
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It's IREX because it can tamper with the system.
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Alright,
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we have agreed that Fusion Mobile can only
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transfer the online version.
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with no complications,
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granting administrative rights and all the rights.
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All right.
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However,
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the transfer of offline version will
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be escalated in your organization and the conditions for
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that will be put on the table.
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Yes.
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Have you agreed?
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These are the points of the day.
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Yeah, I believe.
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Our scribes,
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let's take that and move to the next level.
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Okay.
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Yes,
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I have a question for him.
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Okay,
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doctor, he has a question for you.
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Mr.
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Victor?
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Victor.
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Yes,
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let's go back to the server issue.
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You said you were the one paying
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the server subscription.
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My question is,
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can Island Gambia be hosted if mostly once we have our own
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server right now?
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Can Island Gambia be hosted to another server?
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Of course, we can do,
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if we get the right information
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on exactly what we want to do,
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we can do a migration.
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Understand?
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I don't know.
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I don't think we have to pay another server.
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When we already subprocure one right now,
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then we have.
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That is why I'm asking,
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can I land to host it with the existing server that we have right now?
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The hosting,
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I mean.
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on the case of server we already established the fact that you
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can migrate any system from any server to any server however there
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is a high risk to it so in the process of migration and there is
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the system breaks what will you do and that is why he actually
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said it here that we have agreed that we
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don't need to migrate let's just hand over the credentials so
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i think that answers your question
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I think the server is just a subscription,
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a cloud -based server that you pay.
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When it expires,
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you continue to pay,
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right? The server is like a house.
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I know.
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So if you can access,
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if you can put a table in this house,
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right?
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It's easy.
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However, in the process of putting this table and the leg breaks,
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what will you do?
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So...
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yeah that's what i'm saying we already have one so why would you pay another
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one and if you get that thing they don't
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advise migration but it doesn't mean migration is technically
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important
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in the issues of servers
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right let me just give a little example
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The work intervention that
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the partners here is doing,
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I believe currently you already
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have a server that is going on right now.
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That has
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made it even more easier because you can run several
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servers on one system.
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Are you getting my point?
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You can make it inter...
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You don't need to dismantle
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the whole house to be able to be the smaller
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one. Let me put it that way.
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I get the point.
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So if you already have a server and your
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program has already been hosted on those servers,
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understand,
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simple integration can
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stop all these complicated problems that we have.
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discussing here.
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The platform goes the most,
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you can run 10 servers on this island Gambia.
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You can run infinite servers on the
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same platform hosting VPN components.
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I get my point.
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So it is,
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it must not be that because you have another server,
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you have to dismantle one.
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I think it's the other way around.
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We are not dismantling anything or disregarding anything.
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So it is the platform that should be hosted on a server.
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Exactly.
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And if the platform is hosted on a server,
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you don't need two servers.
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That means, what would you use the other one?
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And because it's costing us,
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and like you said,
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you have to say that it has to be costing you,
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and you want to take that off from your hands.
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So how do we ensure that we are able to transfer the funds that we are using to fund
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the server that we have achieved?
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If you are saying that that server that we have belongs to Mobsy.
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That means we now have two servers that are doing exactly the same thing.
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So all that you need to do,
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we don't need to migrate like we said.
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If the server is 100 % belong synopsis,
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all that you need to do is hand over the server and then we
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take over the payments and then we reimburse you with
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the permission of the payment secretary depending on the use that we've been anchored
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and then we can continue because for me,
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I don't think our collaboration should be on the infrastructure.
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The collaboration should be on the tool itself.
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So if you focus it on that,
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then we can see how do we bring you on.
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Anytime that we are negotiating from this to see how we are going to collaborate
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with the learning mastermind and STEM.
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It's about the tool.
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How do we improve the tool?
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Because you are the one that developed it,
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you are the one that has the expertise,
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you are the one that knows exactly what has been done.
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So that's where our collaboration should be.
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But not on who is hosting it,
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where is it hosting it,
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something like that.
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And when it comes to administrative management,
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they should be able to have...
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This guy is sleeping,
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I know, but when he's not sleeping,
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he's very much capable of running the server and making sure that they're able,
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they're capable of,
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you know, uploading and stuff like that.
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So, and we know that there has been a hassle.
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And the ministry will also have challenges.
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But for the sake of moving forward,
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I just wanted us to see how do we,
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what do we take away from here?
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What commitments are we giving out as a ministry,
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as patient mobile,
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as a staff,
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so that we can close this chapter once,
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once, once.
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Because what is not waiting for us is time.
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and and we need to we need to have this all right let's let's analyze
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this um um before
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i uh before now we
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already know that the server belongs to mobsy and
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i will give it understand so the
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credentials within
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24 hours from now if
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you point me to the rights
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so um i think we are going to do it much more because again we don't want
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to we don't want to make the mistake that we did previously so what we are going to do is
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what we are going to do is we are going to uh science attack we have at least
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one commitment that the commitment to to transfer this activity performance
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with us so what we are going to do is organize a workshop
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we are the planning team this team and they will be invited and the focus would be
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going to the platform itself and that showing
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us okay this is what is this this is what you have
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what you have and then your hand over this and then when you
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ask then please also because this is not as straightforward as you said because you need to also come
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up with your invoices you need to prepare you come and say this is how much you have spent today then
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maybe they will also come and say this is how much that we have contributed towards towards that then
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when you come then maybe somebody from ministry um would be there today
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okay then this is what we need to focus with you otherwise if we just hand over to
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us we will just kick you out of the system and then you will not get your payment from
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So that's at least that's my proposal.
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Yeah,
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you know the payment is something that they will have to sit and never say.
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Because there are so many things that are coming to play now.
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He's got to give me a voice on there and let me say we need to look at that.
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Exactly.
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So it's more of a process.
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But the most important thing is,
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the most important thing is we close the structure and then remove it.
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Let me react to what God said.
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Our responsibility here
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is to hand over the server
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to you.
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Is that not so?
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Good.
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which this training component you just brought in right now.
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You understand?
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We need to do this in a bit of third way.
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Are you getting my point?
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No,
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I'm going to start.
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You're not talking about the training.
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It's about us handing over,
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handing over,
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because the server would have specifications.
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You need to bring all the detail specifications of the Sabbath.
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When we
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get to that juncture.
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Give me a technical person.
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I work with a technical person.
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That also.
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Yes.
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That's what you're saying.
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So we don't want you to be working with technical person.
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We want you to be working with a technical team.
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Exactly.
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So we don't have to sit here and begin to discuss technical issues that
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we communicate.
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I don't understand.
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And we keep communicating each other.
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Yeah.
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So let's
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leave technical issues to the technical team.
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Understand?
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When do we have to start?
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For now,
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I believe monthly
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in the better position to guide
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us.
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I suggest we give them two to three weeks because they
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need to answer the other question which they propose
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to escalate through their signals.
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That's the question of the offline.
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All right?
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So that you need to bring all the details of
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what is possible in the handover of the offline
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version.
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If it is possible,
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yes. If it is not possible,
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why it is not possible?
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When you escalate it,
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most persons need to be answered.
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All right.
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When it comes to the server of our online version,
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