2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge

May 08, 2026 05:14 · 1:18:19 · English · Whisper Turbo · 5 speakers
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
You heard sirens?
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Or you heard the sirens?
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Or you saw
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bombing?
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Olena,
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you said your city was occupied.
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What month did you leave?
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What month?
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When
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the
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war started?
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I was not.
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I wasn't.
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I wasn't in Poland.
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I was in Poland.
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My daughter still in Ukraine.
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I came in Ukraine,
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left my daughter.
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How
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old is your daughter?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
It was 14
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years.
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14?
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14 years.
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Now she's 17 years.
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Okay. We
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tried looking like...
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What about
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the process of finding a sponsor?
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Tell me about how
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you found a sponsor.
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Is it someone you know?
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Family member?
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Relative.
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Is it a friend?
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Is it a person you don't know?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Sponsor is someone you don't know.
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For me,
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it's really hard.
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I try to write someone,
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people in USA,
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like in Facebook.
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And I found that,
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I don't know,
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this is a woman.
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She lives in California.
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And she's just telling me,
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I do this for you at all.
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I don't want nothing.
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This is just kind.
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Kindness,
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yeah. Our
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friend.
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Friend
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of yours or your husband?
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My husband.
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Christina,
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what about?
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Sponsor is accusing
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my husband.
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What
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about you,
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Uliana?
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Friend
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of your husband?
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Oh,
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you came
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through the Mexican border.
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What month
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did you come?
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What month?
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Do
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you have a sponsor?
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Nadia?
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No.
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Uh -huh.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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You are not on U4U.
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Yeah.
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You didn't do U4U.
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Okay. Parole.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Humanitarian.
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Uh -huh.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Ah,
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you do?
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Okay.
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TPS
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and TPS.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Did
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your sponsor help you?
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When you got here,
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the sponsor helped with paperwork,
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with furniture,
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with apartment,
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finding an apartment,
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finding a job.
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Did your sponsor help you?
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For us,
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yes. Yeah.
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Helped
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with a lot.
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Yes.
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No?
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No.
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Just,
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okay,
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come, and that's it.
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Who else? Ulyana, your sponsor did not help.
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They don't have to help more,
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so being a sponsor means a lot.
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Just being a document means a lot.
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And so the woman from California,
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she just signed the documents
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for you.
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She didn't help.
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I didn't ask.
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And Olena,
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what about you?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Thank you for my sponsor,
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but my older daughter helped me.
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Yeah,
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yeah, okay.
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Your Miami daughter
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helped a lot.
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No, my daughter lived in Chicago.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Oh, okay.
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She moved in Miami one year ago.
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Oh, I see.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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And tell me
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about first impressions in Chicago.
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First impressions.
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First impressions in Chicago.
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Nice
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airport.
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A
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lot of cars, a lot of people.
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Big city.
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Very cold.
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Hot,
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hot,
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hot. Everything
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new.
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What surprised you the most?
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What surprised you the most?
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Because maybe you hear
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in Ukraine back
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When you lived in Ukraine,
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maybe you heard about Chicago,
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maybe you saw films,
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TV about America and
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Chicago.
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But when you come here,
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you were surprised.
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What were you surprised by?
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It's not really like a movie.
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No.
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It's another world.
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In what way?
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Many
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animals.
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Many animals.
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Okay.
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Oh,
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like the rabbits.
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Like
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rabbits.
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No,
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like rabbits and squirrels.
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Rats?
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You saw the rats?
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Okay.
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Or raccoons.
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Deer.
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Yeah.
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Deer.
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Okay.
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And the streets
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were dirty.
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Nothing
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surprised you?
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No.
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For surprise
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for me,
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it's too much.
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I don't understand what this is. I think it's beer.
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Tell me,
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it's cannabis.
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It's
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illegal in Ukraine.
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It's legal.
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Illegal.
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Illegal in Ukraine.
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Any other surprises?
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you in ukraine it's not it's not we don't we don't
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take like this we take but we we
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don't ask how you're every every people like we don't
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ask how you're how are you or how you're doing like
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we just hype the soul yeah
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what about what about other other
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people you notice the friendliness or not
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really yeah Americans very friendly or
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no yeah oh
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before the
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war
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During the war,
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people became angry during
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the war.
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Ukraine and when you come here everyone's like big
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big smile all the time was it
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culture shock culture
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shock was it was it culture shock to be here yeah
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yeah
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yeah everyone
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smiles at children yeah
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Are your kids or.
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More trees?
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There's more trees here?
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Are
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your kids happy here?
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Your kids or grandkids,
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do they feel happy here?
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Who
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came with you?
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The kids who came with you,
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are they happy here or no?
15:54
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This is the one who was 14 when you went
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to get her in Ukraine.
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She was 14.
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Anyone
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else?
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Kids?
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No,
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right, you don't have kids yet,
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but you guys have kids.
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Are your kids okay here?
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Are they happy here?
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Do they have problems at school?
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My daughter knew friends,
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my son knew.
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My son,
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when he went to go to the
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
first birthday party,
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he first went to school.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
He went to school.
16:41
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
He went to school.
16:42
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
He went to school.
16:43
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
He went to school.
16:45
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
He went to school.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
He went to school.
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Mom, mom,
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dad.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
He went to school.
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My kids
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are happy here.
17:06
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
They have many friends,
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but they would go
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to home.
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They miss Ukraine?
17:15
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Yes.
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How old
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are your kids?
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Can
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you tell me about your life here?
17:34
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Do you work?
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Are you looking for work?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Do you stay at home,
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care for kids?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
How do you live here?
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Part
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-time?
17:59
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Yes, part -time.
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What's your job,
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Helena?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Cleaning.
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What did
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you do in Ukraine,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Helena?
18:12
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Oh,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
you were a nurse in Ukraine.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
What
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
about anybody else have a job?
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Part -time job?
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Small job?
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Caregiver.
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A
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long time.
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You study here?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Yeah.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Yeah,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
yeah.
19:07
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
You take classes at the local community
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college or where?
19:13
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I study in college,
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starting in college.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Yeah.
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And
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what did you do in Ukraine?
19:25
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
You had a business.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Anybody
19:34
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
else have a job looking for a job?
19:38
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I have a part -time job,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
like I am Lush and
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Brows Master.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
And also I'm a singer.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Oh.
19:51
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Yeah, I'm singing here in the Ukrainian
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
festival,
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in the wedding,
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in the...
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
from another party.
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In Ukraine,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I think too,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
and I'm working a pharmacist for like seven years.
20:08
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Okay.
20:13
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And
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Ulyana,
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do you care for children here?
20:29
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Do you have a job here?
20:30
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
How do you spend your time?
20:55
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
When I go to Chicago,
20:58
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I work to cleaning service
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
because I
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
don't know English language is too much hard
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
found.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
find another job,
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normal job.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Last time I
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work in bartender.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
In Ukraine?
21:30
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
No, this.
21:31
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Oh, here.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Yeah, here.
21:32
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I work for months.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
work in a restaurant,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
India House.
21:43
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
But
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you left the job?
21:51
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
No.
21:52
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
No, you still work there?
21:53
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Yes, yes. Aha, okay,
21:54
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I see.
21:54
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
So, okay.
21:57
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
What did you do
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in Ukraine?
22:02
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I don't know how to say it.
22:06
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I was a trade representative.
22:08
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
You were?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Oh,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
yeah.
22:13
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Sales representative,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
maybe sales rep.
22:19
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
We say sales rep or manager.
22:30
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Do you work here?
22:33
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Do you care for grandkids?
22:36
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
What do you do here?
22:37
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I looked after my work.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Yes,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
yes.
22:44
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
You are very busy.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Oh,
22:53
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
yeah?
22:54
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
How many pets?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Oh,
23:04
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
my God.
23:05
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Kittens.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Yeah,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
it's like a zoo,
23:25
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
yeah. Oh,
23:29
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
and
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
a garden.
23:37
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
And
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
you live in the suburbs,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Elmwood Park.
23:47
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Yeah.
23:50
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Maria,
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what about you?
23:51
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
My
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
grandson.
23:57
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I cook.
24:00
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
What
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
do you like about life here?
24:14
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
What do you like about living
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
here?
24:19
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Anything?
24:20
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Nothing?
24:22
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
What do you like?
24:23
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Your
24:29
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
life.
24:30
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Your life.
24:30
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Not just other people's life.
24:32
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Your life.
24:37
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Walking.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Safety.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Safety.
24:39
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Calm.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Calm.
24:41
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Yeah.
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It's affordable?
25:10
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Yeah,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
we
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
say affordable,
25:20
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
things are affordable,
25:22
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
or you can afford to buy things.
25:37
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Nadia,
25:38
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
have you traveled?
25:39
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Have you traveled?
25:41
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Yeah?
25:43
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Okay.
25:44
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Where did you go?
25:46
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Where did you go?
25:50
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Oh,
25:58
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Niagara Falls.
26:00
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
A lot
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of states.
26:07
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
California.
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Lakes,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
yeah.
26:17
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Beautiful.
26:19
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
And for you,
26:22
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
life is affordable?
26:23
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Can you afford to live here?
26:33
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
What else do you like about your
26:37
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
life here?
26:38
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
When
27:01
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the war ends,
27:04
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
do you want to go back to Ukraine?
27:22
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
So a lot of people don't have a house in Ukraine now.
27:26
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I understand.
27:30
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Your house was destroyed.
27:33
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Your city was destroyed.
27:35
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
You don't have anything to come back to.
27:38
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Would
27:45
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
you come back?
27:46
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Or
27:55
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
stay?
27:55
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Stay in America.
27:58
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Stay in Chicago.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
You don't have
28:17
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
anywhere.
28:17
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
You don't have any place to come back to.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Have
28:25
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
you experienced any discrimination here?
28:28
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Discrimination because you
28:32
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
don't speak English?
28:34
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Because you're from Ukraine,
28:36
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I don't know.
28:38
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Discrimination.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Ever experienced?
28:41
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
No.
28:42
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
When you have to go to some
28:47
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
office,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
bureaucracy,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
American bureaucracy,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
some office,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
worker,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
blah, blah,
28:54
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
blah, any discrimination from people
28:59
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
who give you documents,
29:00
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insurance,
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no discrimination.
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Service,
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good experience.
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I
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understood,
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thank you.
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Speak slow as I understand.
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So,
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was it easy for you to access your
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benefits?
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Was it easy to access
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medical insurance,
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SNAP,
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food banks.
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With friends?
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Yes, because when we come,
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we don't know English,
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and so friends helping us.
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So,
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no, I understood,
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yeah, thank you.
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Anyone
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else?
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So you only got medical insurance,
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you did not need the food benefits,
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cash assistance,
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you didn't need it.
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And medical insurance was easy to
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access,
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easy to set up.
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Easy,
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let go,
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and access to it.
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Okay,
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for everyone,
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for you too?
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Did you use the food benefits,
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SNAP?
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I have benefits for the first year.
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SNAP?
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Anybody
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else use SNAP?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Yeah, I use one year of SNAP and cash.
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I use
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half a year.
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Half a year.
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I use once a time.
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Oh,
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one.
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One time?
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One month.
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Can
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you tell me about challenges here?
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What challenges do you have here?
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Challenges?
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What is hard?
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We have a lot of opportunities.
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We like
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jobs.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Everything and everyone likes jobs.
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Ukrainian people,
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I mean.
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They want a job.
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What
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about other challenges?
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Language.
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What else is challenging,
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is hard here?
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About the car.
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When we come,
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we don't have a car.
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We need to walk it every time to
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store,
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to van.
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Who has
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a car?
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Yeah,
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now.
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Do you have a car now?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
No, I have.
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Okay.
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Your husband has a car.
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Maybe daughter,
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son -in -law have a car.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So,
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but car was a challenge in the beginning.
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That was hard in the beginning.
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It was hard with the car.
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What else?
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Any other challenges?
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The
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first
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
apartment was a challenge.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
It's also first apartment.
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Do you live in the same apartment now?
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Or no?
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You moved?
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You move all the time?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Move a lot?
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This
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is the first time we live.
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What
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
about you, Vita?
34:28
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We moved in
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May with friends.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
We rent a big house.
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For
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two families.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Is it nice to live together?
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Yeah,
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it's a really big house.
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Three floors and a good
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one.
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Any other challenges?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Life is easy here or
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life is hard here?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Easy.
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Easy?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
More easy.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Only sometimes.
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Sometimes easy.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Yes, sometimes easy.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Tell me when.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I have a challenge with medicine
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in Chicago.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Like with doctors,
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appointments?
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Yes.
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appointment and service yeah
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we need long time wait
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for appointment oh if you call the doctor you need to wait two months
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so you can die
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A day or two,
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and you solve all your issues,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
you see all the doctors you need.
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There is no wait?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
There is no wait for doctors?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
They come the same day
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to Ukraine,
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and that's okay,
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if doctors have time.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I wait for us in one year.
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Here?
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Wow.
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Okay.
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the ways that you get your services straight away.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
And you can always find the way.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Always find a private clinic or another doctor,
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so you'll be served.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
If you have an issue today,
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you'll be served tomorrow,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
one way or the other.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
But here you just have to wait for months,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
sometimes even a year.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
That's what's different and that's what we challenge.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
So medicine is hard here,
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yeah.
36:48
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Anything else hard here?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I'm going to repeat.
36:58
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Finding the
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first job,
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the first apartment.
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Without
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the language you cannot find a good
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job.
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Okay,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
this is a complicated question.
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Does succeeding in America require
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individualism or cooperation?
38:09
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A refugee one?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
They say cooperation with refugee one.
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Friends,
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or making new friends.
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Everybody
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agree?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Cooperation?
38:29
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
So we are,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
can I add?
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Yeah.
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So all of us,
38:33
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I'm sure all of us are in some groups,
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Ukrainian groups,
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where they share information.
38:38
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Facebook,
38:38
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WhatsApp.
38:39
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Facebook, WhatsApp,
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Telegram.
38:41
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
So we share information,
38:42
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
share jobs,
38:43
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
share apartments,
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everything.
38:45
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
So there's a lot of cooperation going on.
38:47
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Who is in this kind of group,
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social media group,
38:52
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Telegram,
38:52
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Facebook, WhatsApp?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Facebook.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Who's?
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Yeah,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
yeah.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Just look every time.
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It's like you open your phone and like,
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I found a job,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I look in job,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I have a job.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Yeah,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
they post jobs.
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Okay,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
in these groups or with your friends,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
do you ever hear about stories of discrimination?
39:17
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
You didn't experience discrimination,
39:21
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
but did you hear about it?
39:24
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
from other Ukrainians living in Chicago.
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But...
40:03
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
One of the students told this story,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
somebody wanted to take away their cell phone,
40:09
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
but I'm not sure why I know.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Oh,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
it was a black man?
40:15
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Black man approached her and said,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
give me the phone.
40:27
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Before this event,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
she was afraid to drive hybrids,
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but after this,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
she just felt that dangerous.
40:45
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Did you hear about crime in Chicago before
40:50
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you came?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Did
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you hear about it before you came?
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Is
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it
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true? Is it how you experience the city?
41:40
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I have a situation
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maybe...
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One year,
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four months ago,
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I left in
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the parking near Burlington
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Marshall.
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When I go to my car,
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I can see a broken
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window,
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not my thing.
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So they broke the windows and your things,
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they stole them?
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Yes.
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They stole,
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they took...
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Was
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it expensive to fix the car?
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No, it's not expensive.
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I'm sorry that happened.
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It's okay.
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I know it's not the
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first time everywhere.
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You know, I see news and some,
42:53
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
a lot of people in Chicago have a gun.
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Guns.
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A lot of people.
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And it's horrible because
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people sometimes feeling not good.
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So,
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okay.
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I want to talk more about crime,
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about...
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What is it?
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Criminal?
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I want to talk more
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about it.
43:35
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
We come back to that question.
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Okay,
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another question.
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Have you heard the phrase American dream?
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Have you heard this phrase?
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What do you think it means?
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Have a
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good life.
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Have a good job.
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Have a lot of money.
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Maybe it's freedom.
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Opportunities.
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Opportunities.
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Like,
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you know, in the Soviet era,
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opportunism.
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It's the same word,
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right?
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Opportunities.
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Opportunities.
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Good job,
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money.
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Any
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other ideas?
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What is the American dream?
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Nice
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house.
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What do you
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think
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
will happen?
45:37
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Do you think Ukrainians will be
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able to
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Stay in America.
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What
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do you think?
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Fifteen?
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Fifty.
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Fifty -fifty.
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Any
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other guesses?
46:18
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What do you think will happen?
46:21
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What do you guess will happen?
46:34
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
We hope.
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We hope because every
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people working pay taxes
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and so
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you hope and you guess that 50
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-50 chance it will happen.
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Any other guesses?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Maybe while the war is going on?
47:41
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Maybe while the war is going on.
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I see,
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I understood.
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Can I repeat what you say and you tell me if
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I'm correct, if I understood?
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So if the war lasts a
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long time,
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People will settle down.
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
They will make roots here.
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
But if the war ends,
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a lot of people will come back.
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Do you think Ukrainians will
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stay even without documents?
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Let me repeat.
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The people
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who do not have children or have grown children,
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
they will stay even without documents.
49:37
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
But some
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
people think without documents,
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Ukrainians will leave.
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You think so,
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Helena. Without documents...
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S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
How you find any job?
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S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
You don't find any job,
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you don't have
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Do you know people who left
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already?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I know one student.
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One friend.
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One friend.
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You took her to the airport.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
No
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documents,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
no work.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Your relative also returned to Ukraine.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Can I add something?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
There's one big shortcoming of this program,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I guess.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
You cannot leave the country.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
When your family is split,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
it's torn apart,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
and you want to see your parents,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
there's a risk when you leave the country.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Of course, we have this advanced parole.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Officially,
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we have this opportunity.
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to leave the country,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
but people say there's no guarantee they will let you back.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
So I think this is a big drawback.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I have parents,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I would like to see them,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
but it's a big risk.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
If you leave the country,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
they might not let me in.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
They would like to have the
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opportunity to leave this country for a month,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
for example, to see your relatives,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
help them,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
just whatever you need to do at home.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
What do you call yourself here if you have to label yourself,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
put a label on yourself?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Are you a refugee?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Are you an asylum seeker?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Or maybe,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I don't know,
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a visitor,
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a temporary resident,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
a tourist.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Not refugee.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
So
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Helena, I didn't understand that.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Maybe we don't want to realize,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
we don't want to admit that we are refugees.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Maybe because...
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I don't know why,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
but I understand everything you say.
53:18
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Other people I
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
don't understand,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
but I understand everything you say.
53:34
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
She knew zero.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
She had zero knowledge.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
She studied from A,
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B, C.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
She understands.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
It's still hard to speak,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
but she still made a progress.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Would
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
you have come to the United States if
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
there was no war?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
If there was never war?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Would you have come to the United States?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Before the war.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Oh,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
you didn't see the wedding.
55:17
S… Speaker 4 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
It's always been difficult to get
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Lisa to the United States.
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S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I want to ask,
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S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
what
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S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
does sanctuary,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Pritulok,
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S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
what does it mean to you?
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S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Chicago and
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S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
other cities here call themselves sanctuary
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S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
cities.
55:59
S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
They say,
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S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
we are a sanctuary city.
56:03
S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Even Illinois,
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S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
the state,
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S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
is considered a sanctuary state for
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immigrants.
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S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
considered like meaning
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S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
meaning this
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S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
is a policy you have to translate this is a policy where
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for example police officer if they stop you on the street they
56:31
S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
can't ask about your immigration status so police
56:36
S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
can't enforce immigration yeah people
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S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
in government offices
56:43
S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
They have to provide translation for immigrants.
56:47
S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
They have to be polite.
56:48
S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
They can't yell at immigrants.
56:50
S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
All of these policies are
56:55
S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
the policies of sanctuary cities or sanctuary states.
57:00
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
This is a policy that has the name of sanctuary policy.
57:03
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
It is a policy that doesn't have a direct attitude towards immigrants.
57:07
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
When the police stop,
57:09
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
they don't ask their status,
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S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
they don't want to show you,
57:14
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
they don't want to show you, they don't want to show you,
57:15
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
they don't want to show you,
57:16
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
because the city has a good attitude towards
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S… Speaker 4 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
immigrants.
57:27
S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
What does that word mean to you?
57:30
S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
The word sanctuary.
57:31
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
What does it mean to you?
57:35
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
They
57:40
S… Speaker 4 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
care about people.
57:41
S… Speaker 4 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
People don't have a house or some
57:45
S… Speaker 4 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
eat.
57:49
S… Speaker 4 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
They don't have a job.
57:52
S… Speaker 4 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
They don't know what they need to
57:56
S… Speaker 4 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
do. They are looking for a
58:01
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
friend. Other
58:05
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
definitions?
58:05
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Thank you.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Security,
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
safety.
58:14
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Protection,
58:24
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
protection.
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Medical
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insurance.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
So
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
people feel
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
safe when people feel safe.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Help
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
with language.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Any other
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
thoughts about sanctuary?
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S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Any other thoughts about sanctuary?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
The
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S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
main things are not to be hungry,
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S… Speaker 4 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
have a place to live in,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
and safety.
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S… Speaker 4 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
These are the basic things.
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S… Speaker 4 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
And have a shower.
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
This is my last question.
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
In
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
a perfect world,
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
an ideal world,
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
what should immigration justice look
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
like?
1:00:21
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Justice for immigrants.
1:00:36
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Here is reality.
1:00:37
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
You can't leave.
1:00:38
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
You are temporary.
1:00:41
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
What
1:00:45
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
is ideal?
1:00:46
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Perfect.
1:00:47
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
We
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
would like to be able to leave the country and come back.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I have relatives.
1:01:09
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Relatives all the world.
1:01:11
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
My cousin,
1:01:14
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
my sister,
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S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
my brother,
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S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
my friend
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S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
in Canada,
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S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
in Germany.
1:01:50
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
In a perfect
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
world,
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
we said freedom of
1:02:17
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
movement, freedom to travel.
1:02:23
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
What else in a perfect world is immigration justice?
1:02:50
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
But it's ideal!
1:03:15
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Yeah,
1:03:15
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I want to know about
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
ideal.
1:04:04
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
And so I ask you about immigration justice and
1:04:09
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
you say for immigrants what is just is
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
for the war to end,
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
the reason for immigration to disappear.
1:04:38
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
It was good at home.
1:04:39
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Ukraine is a beautiful country.
1:04:41
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Which
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
we didn't appreciate sometimes.
1:04:50
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
You didn't appreciate it.
1:05:23
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Does everybody have relatives in Ukraine still?
1:05:27
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Family still in Ukraine?
1:05:29
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Everybody?
1:05:30
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Everybody?
1:05:30
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Yeah,
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S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
everybody has.
1:05:32
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
And
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S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Olena, for you,
1:05:40
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
you have relatives in Ukraine still?
1:05:42
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Family,
1:05:44
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
your parents,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
yeah. Brothers,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
my cousin,
1:05:48
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
all over the world.
1:06:04
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I asked a little bit about what you hope to do.
1:06:08
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Some people said,
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S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I hope to have a better job,
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S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
work as an accountant.
1:06:13
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I
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S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
want to know more about
1:06:22
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
what you hope to do here.
1:06:23
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
What do you hope to do in the United States?
1:06:41
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
As an accountant,
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S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
yes.
1:06:47
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I want to have the same life when
1:06:52
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I live in Ukraine.
1:06:53
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I want to hear.
1:06:56
S… Speaker 4 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
What about,
1:07:06
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Ulyana,
1:07:07
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
what do you hope to do?
1:07:09
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Any job
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S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
is fine.
1:07:21
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Like at least what?
1:07:24
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
When
1:07:28
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
kids go to school?
1:07:30
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
We'll continue
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S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
looking.
1:07:39
S… Speaker 4 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
What
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S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
about Helena?
1:07:52
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Kristina,
1:07:54
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
what do you hope?
1:07:55
S… Speaker 4 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Do
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S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
you hope to study?
1:08:01
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Do you hope to work?
1:08:05
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Buy a house?
1:08:12
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
was to know that I'm still here.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I hope to study,
1:08:19
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
but now I don't
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S… Speaker 5 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
want to.
1:08:24
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
You don't want to stay or you
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S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
don't want to study?
1:08:49
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
If we knew
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
how long we would be here,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
a month or a year,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
it would be easier to build a plan.
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S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
And we don't know how much,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
and it kills the desire.
1:09:05
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Is that what she said?
1:09:06
S… Speaker 3 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Kills the desire?
1:09:07
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Yes.
1:09:09
S… Speaker 4 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
What
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
about you, Christina?
1:09:23
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Maybe the same.
1:09:25
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
We live on
1:09:29
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
the day today.
1:09:29
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
We don't
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
see hope.
1:09:36
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
We don't see hope.
1:09:39
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Stability.
1:09:54
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Like Liana says,
1:09:56
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Ukrainians want stability because we never...
1:10:05
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
We always want stability,
1:10:06
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
but we don't have it.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
We don't
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
have hope in the future,
1:10:14
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
not tomorrow.
1:10:15
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Yeah,
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
about stability,
1:10:18
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
it reminds me,
1:10:19
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I forgot one question on my list,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I'm sorry.
1:10:22
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I forgot to ask you about the Ukrainian
1:10:27
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
diaspora here.
1:10:29
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Have you met the Ukrainian
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
diaspora?
1:10:34
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Not you guys who just came,
1:10:38
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
your newly arrived Ukrainians,
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
but Ukrainians who were here 5,
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
10, 20,
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
30 years ago.
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Have you met them?
1:10:47
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
What do you think about them?
1:10:59
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
So your friend was six years ago?
1:11:03
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Yes, six years ago.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
She helped
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
me find work.
1:11:11
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
You
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
don't
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
go to Ukrainian village?
1:11:30
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
No.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Don't you go to the Ukrainian village?
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
To the church,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
festivals.
1:11:38
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
You sing at the festival.
1:11:41
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
So maybe you have met Ukrainian diaspora
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
people at church?
1:11:47
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
What is your impression?
1:11:50
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
They are superheroes.
1:11:57
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Why do you say
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
that?
1:12:07
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
They are good, they help us,
1:12:09
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
they give us translations,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
everything,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
just to help us.
1:12:14
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
But they came,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
they didn't know the language,
1:12:16
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
there was no navigation,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
there was nothing.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
They just came.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
They were heroes,
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
they lived in such a foreign world.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Without language?
1:12:27
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Without language,
1:12:28
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
without language,
1:12:29
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
without anyone.
1:12:40
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
26 years ago.
1:12:42
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
They came 26 years ago.
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Yeah,
1:12:45
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
that's Ukrainian diaspora.
1:12:46
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Insurance?
1:12:56
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
They don't have insurance
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
like we have.
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
So
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
superheroes,
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
you admire them?
1:13:17
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
They have their houses,
1:13:22
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
business.
1:13:24
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
They
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
are like natives here.
1:13:30
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
They are not strangers.
1:13:34
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Our people
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
are hard working.
1:13:44
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
And they achieve something.
1:13:46
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
They
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
have several jobs.
1:13:54
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Does
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
the Ukrainian diaspora help you?
1:14:02
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
At church,
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S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
maybe festivals,
1:14:08
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
do they help?
1:14:09
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
So
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S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
we help those in Ukraine,
1:14:18
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
but we never ask for help from the diaspora.
1:14:22
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Yeah, oh,
1:14:22
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I know.
1:14:23
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
But do they help?
1:14:25
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
They help Ukraine.
1:14:31
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Like Ukrainian diaspora helps
1:14:35
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Ukraine,
1:14:36
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
fund raises for Ukraine.
1:14:38
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
When something
1:14:44
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
happens and you ask for help,
1:14:46
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
they will help.
1:15:04
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
People ask for help on Facebook.
1:15:06
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
It was
1:15:34
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
harder for them.
1:15:36
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Do they resent you?
1:15:39
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
This is what Maria is saying.
1:15:40
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Some of them resent you.
1:15:41
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Some of them resent you.
1:15:44
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
It took them long and hard to get where they
1:15:48
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
are now.
1:15:48
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
It was so easy for us.
1:15:51
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
A
1:15:58
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
lot of them were illegally here.
1:15:59
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
My
1:16:05
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
husband and sister was here
1:16:13
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
for seven years illegally.
1:16:14
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
So you're a sister -in -law.
1:16:32
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Maybe one day you will become Ukrainian -American
1:16:36
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
diaspora.
1:16:37
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
What do you think?
1:16:39
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I'm
1:16:52
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
out of questions.
1:16:53
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Thank you so much for participating.
1:16:56
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I really appreciate it.
1:16:58
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Thank you.
1:16:59
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
If you left me your phone number or email address,
1:17:03
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
maybe I will message you to ask
1:17:07
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
one or two more questions.
1:17:09
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Just make sure I have your story,
1:17:13
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
your statement correct.
1:17:14
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I will call or email and ask to make sure.
1:17:18
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Do you have any questions for me?
1:17:22
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
Anything.
1:17:27
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I'm an open book.
1:17:29
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
This
1:17:34
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
is understandable.
1:17:35
S… Speaker 2 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
I'm an open book.
1:17:36
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
You don't want
1:17:42
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
to answer.
1:17:44
S… Speaker 1 (2024-07-24Interview_ESLGroup1Norridge)
She doesn't know the answer to the question.

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