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lovely okay so look as you know i'm doing this uh for my
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masters in trinity uh doing responsible business and sustainability and
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this is kind of a focus towards uh sustainable supply chains so before
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we begin i'd just like you to kind of explain your background how you got into
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the industry and how you got kind of involved with ballymanloo foods if that's all right
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Yeah, so basically what I did was I
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did a bachelor's in environmental science and climate science,
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honours bachelor's,
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and then I got a graduate role with Ballymenu Foods
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straight out of college,
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and now I'm
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just managing the sustainability.
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department I suppose you could say and just basically
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I was brought in really to build upon the kind
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of already sustainable foundations that are there because I don't know if you know much about
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Ballymanou Foods but environmentalism and sustainability
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is kind of what their entire company was based upon back
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in 1990 Ballymanou Foods opened
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which is still you probably know all the other
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But 1990 was when Ballymenu Foods,
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which is the food manufacturing plant that does,
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you know,
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the Ballymenu relish and the pasta and the mayo and things like that.
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So Yasmin Hyde
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was the founder of that company and her
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kids now run that company.
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So Maxine Hyde,
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Rosaline Hyde and Sean Hyde.
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And they're all very much into sustainability and environmentalism.
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So it's a great place for me to work.
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They can let me have the reins early.
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So we've got a lot of things done and we've a
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fair few objectives.
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going forward in plans and we're looking forward to doing.
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Sweet,
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okay. Would you be able to tell me some about the initiatives
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surrounding sustainability and if there's anything around your supply
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chain for sustainability as well?
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Yeah,
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so when I first came in here I created our
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five -year Origin Green sustainability plan.
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So are you familiar with Origin Green?
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uh no i'm not actually no okay so origin green is um
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origin green is board be as food um
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board be a sustainability program so you don't have
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to do it but it's it's most food
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and drink um
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companies are doing it now but we were doing it since the
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start but anyway I had to create our five -year sustainability plan which means that we
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had to set targets across every pillar of sustainability which
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as you probably know from studying it now it's very broad so
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we so for
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your said supply chain was kind of where you'd like to
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focus in on so we have like raw materials um
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uh procurement stuff like that we have targets in
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our origin green plan uh for example one of them
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i think is like by 2028 that
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70 of our raw materials purchased were able to furnish
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um like sustainability certifications
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or were able to show us that they've been like either
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third party verified that they're doing things in a responsible and sustainable
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way or that they have filled out our
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own questionnaire that is pretty like in depth
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okay okay i get you yeah so yeah go on yeah
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so like with the kind of all the initiatives you're implementing are they kind of like
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Are they,
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like, mandatory or voluntary?
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So, like, are they driven by yourselves in Ballymaloo,
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or are they coming from,
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like, an external source through,
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like, regulation and policy that are telling you you have to hit these targets,
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you know? Yeah,
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so it's voluntary at the moment.
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We're still at SME,
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so we don't fall under CSRD.
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So it's voluntary,
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and it always has been since the start,
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but we are getting more requests and more pressure in
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regards to packaging.
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And in regards to,
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I don't know if you're aware of the PPRW European,
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it's
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not an initiative, it's going to be law,
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but basically it's like you can't,
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it's to stop companies greenwashing.
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So they'll have to have third party verified that,
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let's say their jar of relish and the paper using
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the label, if you're saying that that's 100 % recyclable.
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or that it's compostable you have to have that third party verified you
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can't just say it okay so it is a good piece of legislation that
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it will stop greenwashing and stuff you know when people will be bringing out the mad like this
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bottle is made from 100 recycled fucking anything like you know
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so um it stops that kind of mad stuff but it is a bit painful
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and it is a stress on on our purchasing team that
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we have to now like
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re -label or well we don't actually have to
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because what we were we weren't claiming anything that we that wasn't third party
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verified but if you were to let's
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say if i had a stock of labels for example that said something
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that wasn't third party verified even though it's true that you the
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company would be liable then okay i get you so yeah
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that that would be
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That's the biggest driver.
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The biggest driver is
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internally that we're doing it.
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We have seen increased pressure.
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Sorry, I'll make it.
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I'll keep it.
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I get you.
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We're doing it anyway.
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It's just now we're getting more requests in
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regards to are we in line with X?
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Yeah,
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I get you.
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I get you.
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you kind of touched on how you're like it's all driven sorry it's
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not all driven but the biggest driver is internally and then what would be like some of the largest barriers
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like you've encountered or the companies encounter with driving these initiatives yeah
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for for us we're still a small company well small to medium our revenue
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is only uh i think it was 13 million or something um
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so we're still very small we don't have the budgets um
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that the bigger companies do that can't afford to pay
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the premium which is um you could say
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recyclable like every like recycle like we've 30 recycled shrink wrap um
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in the interim while we're trying to get rid of shrink wrap completely but like that
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comes at a premium same with our recycled mayo bottle that
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comes at a premium we have to pay so that so definitely
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funding as an sme will be the the biggest roadblock
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Okay, yeah,
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that kind of makes sense.
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And then looking down towards just focusing
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on the supply chain kind of side.
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So would you have any criteria when selecting
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suppliers or distributors or partners that you're working with them and making
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sure they're kind of recognizing the sustainability
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side and they're hitting all these targets as well?
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Or is it kind of just like open market?
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No, we don't work with anybody who can't
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either furnish some sort of sustainability credentials or
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answer our questionnaire.
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Okay,
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sweet.
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And do you have kind of a way of tracking that progression once you're
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in partnership with them or is it kind of like free reign after that?
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uh we do we we use sedex you know have you heard of sedex
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don't think so no so sedex they're like um a
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transparency company i suppose you could really call it they they if
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someone if a company signs up to um to sedex
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uh they have to like show from farm level all the way
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how sustainable or how responsible they're being so we we
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monitor them through that um we would like to
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going forward like proper the right way to do it if
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we had the money would be literally send out someone from us to go
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out and have it on site you know look and make sure that everything is up to standard
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or up to what they're saying but um at the moment we we can't okay
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sweet and then so on the other side of of the barriers like what's
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the biggest um enabler of driving all these standards within your company
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like
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would it be like you know the coordination or external like coordination between
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suppliers distributors yourselves would it be grants green loans from
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like you know uh banks driving those initiatives or like
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the government policies and stuff or anything you found
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yourself yeah enabler wise like do
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you mean enabler to to figure out and enable
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what now
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Like just driving your sustainability initiatives,
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you know,
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like you mentioned how like the biggest challenge was probably funding.
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Yeah.
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But like,
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are you getting like support on the other side?
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Like the other way, I know some companies can avail of like green loans and
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initiatives from,
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I know AIB drives that.
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Or is it like,
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say you touched on,
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you're not using CSRD,
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but I know companies can use,
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I don't know,
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have you heard of VSME?
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Yeah, yeah, VSME, yeah.
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Yeah,
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so the biggest enabler in regards to sustainability
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and business development would probably be Enterprise Ireland.
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Okay.
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Yeah,
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Enterprise Ireland,
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they have a good range.
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We've used a few of their grants for sustainability audits
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and getting consultants and engineers in.
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Also,
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another one that has been very helpful,
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actually,
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more so than Enterprise Ireland for sustainability,
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would be the AIMS
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project.
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If you look that up,
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so it's an EU directive.
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They work out of Cork Chamber.
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Conor Malloy and Alicia,
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what's her second name,
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the Matteo or something like that.
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Anyway,
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they have been very,
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very helpful for our sustainability strategies.
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So I would say the AEMS project,
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the EU AEMS project,
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AEMS,
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and then the Enterprise Ireland.
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Enterprise Ireland have a bigger scope,
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they've helped us develop the business all together and lifted sustainability up
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with it.
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but in particular for sustainable actions and
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actual results,
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definitely the AIMS project.
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Okay,
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sweet. And do you use the VSME,
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just wondering?
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No, no.
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Not yet,
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no, no.
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Looking at it,
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but the way we kind of use the Origin Green,
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the Origin Green sustainability strategy has targets already in
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it that I've made five years ago that kind of cover that.
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It's similar to ISO 14001.
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yeah yeah yeah it's similar it's similar to that just it's more suited
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to the food and drink industry um so it's
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just like i have a fair bit on my play with that so i haven't uh
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on the other way yeah okay and then like it's kind of
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lastly like with regards to future aspirations like what are some effective
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strategies you think could help either your company general
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irish companies general irish smes
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improve their sustainability strategies or the
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supply chain management side of it as well with regards to sustainability you
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know yeah going forward regarding
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sustainability in fairness there is like there
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is good grants and there is good mechanisms with SAI and
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with Enterprise Ireland and AIMS
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knowledge sharing probably yeah because i i
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know there's other companies that don't they don't even like they mightn't have a sustainability
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person or department and they have no idea that these grants are out there so
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i'd probably say knowledge sharing and could increase
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not increase maybe more yeah
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so not knowledge sharing and then
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The funding is there.
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See,
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the problem is that the technology,
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and I'm only thinking in a food manufacturing kind
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of mindset or large scale manufacturing,
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the technology is untested.
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It's like when solar panels were first.
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Nobody was getting them.
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The technology was kind of flimsy things.
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It wasn't perfected.
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I think once the technology of electric heat pumps and stuff
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like that come up,
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I think there's going to be a lot more.
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Then these grants will be used a lot better.
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Because the business case,
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as of now,
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it doesn't make sense with the current technology in Ireland.
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Yeah, I get you.
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To be fair,
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I feel like for a lot of SMEs in Ireland,
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you're probably one of the only companies that have a fully
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driven sustainability department.
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Yeah.
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I started off doing my dissertation hoping
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to base it around SMEs,
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but I can't get any contacts with people who are just in SMEs.
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I have to broaden what I'm looking at.
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Yeah.
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the like we're definitely i would say in the intermediates intermediate stage
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to advanced in regards to smes that have sustainability departments
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or like plans like
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we were lucky i was lucky like i didn't have to go in from zero like there was
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a little bit of foundation here for me to build on to make us where we are um
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but like big massive companies like you'll see like you know like dawn meets
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and app they all have it
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Yeah.
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And I know that Oak Park Foods,
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have you got,
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did you get talking to them?
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No. I don't know where they are.
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I think Oak Park,
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the rashers,
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you know, Oak Park Foods.
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No, no, no.
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If you're stuck for more interviews,
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I know the girl that's the sustainability manager there if you want.
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Yeah,
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yeah, yeah.
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No, if you could send me on any emails,
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I could just reach out to them.
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Yeah,
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I'll say it to her first.
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And then...
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If you're looking for more people,
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like if you're a stock line.
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But they're just under the SME limit,
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I'm pretty sure.
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Yeah,
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yeah, yeah.
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Dude,
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I think I'm going to have to broaden the focus.
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Really,
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yeah.
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It's just not realistic to get like probably eight to ten people who
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are dedicated to that area.
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I've got about three or four so far,
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so I'm not doing as bad as I expected.
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But it's getting there solely,
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you know.
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yeah yeah um you know i get you but i guess i had to do
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a bit for my fucking final year project as well so yeah
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you know the the crap um sure that's i i think
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i pretty much covered everything i wanted do you have anything like
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you feel i didn't touch on or you'd like to like to say all good
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okay i'll just see if i can stop the recording there
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