Russ Dalrymple

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Hey, Christopher.

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S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)

Hey there.

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Hi there,

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stranger.

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Fix the volume.

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Can,

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but the reception is a little bit slow.

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Let me turn off my camera and see if that...

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Hang on one second.

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Is this better?

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Do you have a good

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internet connection?

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Can

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you hear me?

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Looks like my internet is not so good.

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Better

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now.

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It

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looks like I've got a bad quality network.

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Let me just check my...

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Let me take it off this and put it on this and see if that works better.

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One second.

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I'm at the Harvard

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Club. It looks like their internet connection

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is not so good.

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Let me try this.

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Second.

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How's

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this, Ross?

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Is this connection any better?

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S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)

It's

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sort of like coming in and out on the video part.

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S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)

Yeah.

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Like it's all pixelated,

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sort of.

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Okay, that's probably better because I've aged and I'm not so sure whether

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my face has aged with grace or not.

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How

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are you, sir?

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I'm grand.

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I mean,

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it's been an interesting 30 years that have elapsed

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since I last evacuated the

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States to effectively live in London for

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20 years and then Berlin.

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for 10 years and now I work in Luxembourg and

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still live in Germany just on the border so I

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guess I'm a I'm a euro file and

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it's been grand the last

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30 years very interesting path of working as a

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mathematician for for banks as a quant

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as it were

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And yourself,

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what have you been up to?

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S… Speaker 4 (Russ Dalrymple)

Well,

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after

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school, and then I retired from the FBI,

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and now I teach criminal justice at a school here,

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college here in Connecticut.

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Wow,

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you're doing the FBI.

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That sounds excellent.

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You know, I applied to join the CIA,

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and so one of the tests that you had to go through was a language test.

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S… Speaker 4 (Russ Dalrymple)

Yeah.

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They said I got the highest score they had ever seen.

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S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)

Um, I,

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I, uh,

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yeah,

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at that time I,

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well, uh,

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you know, they give you a fake made up language test,

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you know, they make a language up.

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So you could not possibly have seen it.

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S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)

Um,

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at that time,

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of course I had,

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um, well was maybe considered a Latin scholar.

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I also spoke French and,

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and,

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um, Spanish.

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I lived in France.

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Uh,

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and so,

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um,

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Yeah, I speak eight languages or so.

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I've forgotten about five,

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so at one point it was quite high.

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But when they offered

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me the salary,

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it would never have paid my financial indebtedness

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to university because it just

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wasn't viable.

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So I had to reject that,

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but that was perhaps one of the biggest things that

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regrets, I mean,

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that I would have,

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but it just didn't work out financially.

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As you know,

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if you go through university,

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it ain't cheap and you got to

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pay it back.

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So I went into banking and it took me 10 years to pay all my debt back,

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10 years.

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Yeah,

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10 years too.

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It's funny.

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a similar maybe uh maybe even the same language test at the fbi

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academy they had all of us in my class probably all the agent trainees

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take the exam and i did terrible uh i was

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never very good at languages foreign languages

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Yeah, I suppose it depends.

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When I was in uni,

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I did my junior abroad in Paris,

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so I studied French.

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And once you learn one language well,

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the rest come into play so easily.

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I learned Italian in two weeks.

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Greek took me about two months.

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Russian took me one month.

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German,

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that took a good four months.

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Italian, I already said two weeks.

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Yeah, I've got a few others,

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but yeah, you have to know one well,

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learn it well,

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and then they roll off the line,

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depending upon your level of motivation,

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of course.

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Yeah, aptitude or I would say,

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yeah, aptitude,

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sure. And Dexter was a good part of that.

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I studied French.

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I got the French prize in Dexter.

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We studied Latin there,

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as you might recall.

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Yeah,

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I had Mr.

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Putnam for French.

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He was brilliant.

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He was a great guy.

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I didn't know him,

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but my father used to talk about him a lot.

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I think he started there after I was gone.

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Right.

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Yeah, he was an older gentleman probably.

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He looked like he probably should have been retired,

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but...

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He probably started when he was 65 or so,

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but, yeah,

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he was a great teacher.

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And,

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yeah, that started me on the path,

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and then that was what convinced me to do the junior year abroad from university

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in Paris,

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and that made a significant difference,

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positive difference in my life anyways.

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Yeah,

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as soon as I got back from Paris,

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I evacuated straight back to Europe.

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Right?

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Right.

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He was a year behind me.

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And then your other brother,

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it was Damon,

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right?

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Correct.

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And then were you the next brother or was the one in between?

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I was the next one.

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And then there was one younger brother who also went to Dexter.

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There were four of us who went to Dexter.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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There was,

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I'm just finding out events

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that took place 50 years ago.

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And I've just found them out in August and September.

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When my brother revealed to

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me, he didn't tell me,

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he just...

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pointed to me a bunch of documents and I read them because he had had sort of a mental

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meltdown.

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So I took a flight over from Germany to visit him to say,

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okay, what's going on,

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find out.

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And then I came across all these documents that,

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yes,

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he'd been, he'd been,

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how to put this,

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well.

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raped over a period of years by Mr.

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Ferguson.

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And I found out that Mr.

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Ferguson had been fired from Dexter

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in 71.

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He was registered pedophile in 1985

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for assaulting his own stepchildren,

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then ultimately put in jail in 2000 for child pornography

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and died last year.

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Oh, geez.

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I didn't know any of that stuff until you sent me the,

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not the stuff today.

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I'm pretty sure I remember those,

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getting those back in,

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I guess it was 2013,

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but I had never seen the previous one that you sent to me where it

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said that he had,

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I think he was single when he was teaching at Dexter.

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I never knew what happened to him after he left Dexter.

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Yeah,

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apparently he got married and assaulted his stepchildren.

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That's when he was registered as a pedophile in 1985.

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But curiously,

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I mean,

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those events happened in Dexter in 1971 when he was fired and

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still he was allowed a free roam,

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as it were,

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until...

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1985 and then not even put in jail until 2000.

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So he had a good 30 years run.

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Yeah. Escaping the law.

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I wonder often where he went to after Dexter and did Dexter blacklist him from

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his behavior.

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I don't know.

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Do you know much of the story at all about the two students

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who came forward at all or did that information?

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A little bit about that.

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I think you might know more than I do.

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I was maybe a seventh or eighth grader,

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and the rumors were going around.

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I remember,

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you know, classmates of mine,

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you know, sort of spreading rumors,

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but that was it at that time.

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And then what happened was,

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as I recall,

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there was a boy in Glennon.

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Ed's grade.

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And I think Ferguson went with them,

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the family,

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I think over to Europe someplace.

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It might have been London.

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And I think while on that trip,

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I think the father was a doctor.

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And so the mother went and with her boys

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and Mr.

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Ferguson was supposed to be like accompanying her because

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she didn't want to go.

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You know, without a man being there,

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I guess, with her.

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But the husband was working.

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So I think while on that trip,

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I think Ferguson tried to,

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and I don't know what he did,

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but he tried to do something with the boy that was in Ed and Glenn's grade.

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And that was the boy who told,

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or told his parents,

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or his mother,

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his parents,

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and I believe they were the ones that went to the school and said,

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you know, what had happened.

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And I think that's what got the ball rolling and led to Mr.

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Ferguson getting fired.

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Yes,

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exactly.

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That's exactly the corroboration of the details

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that I have as well.

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And then,

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but I don't know whatever happened after that.

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It's just he wasn't working there anymore.

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And that was it,

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as far as I know.

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And so I never heard anything after that.

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um until this invest i think i got that first letter from

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dexter you know in i guess it was 2013 which i you

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sent me i think this morning and i think i got both of those

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letters but i got the first letter and and um where

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they uh the new headmaster um todd vincent

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was saying that some

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students had come former students had come forward and they were going to look into it and

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this and that and then we got the second letter saying okay it was it was basically over

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and that i think that was the last i ever heard of it right see um it's

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it's interesting because uh none of us for burks went to

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dexter none of us got that letter and um

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My guess,

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I could be speculating,

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but my guess is that many other people did not get that letter.

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So I was curious to see if you got it.

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Yeah,

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I did get it.

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And in fact,

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as I mentioned in my email today,

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I was one of the people that was interviewed.

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So that law firm that I think was

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on the document you sent me the other day was hired.

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I'm sorry.

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Schwarzhennem is the name of the law firm.

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Schwarzhennem.

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Yes.

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S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)

I didn't remember that as the name,

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but I remember that in the letter it said that they were going to be conducting

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the investigation.

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And they contacted me,

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I know,

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and...

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A gentleman from and I don't recall his name.

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I think he was an attorney for that law firm,

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but we had already been given the heads up from the letter.

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So I was sort of anticipating that I might be contacted.

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And sure enough,

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I was.

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And they asked me basically what I knew about

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this incident.

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And I told them basically what I just told you that the only.

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The person I knew was the young man from Ed

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and Glenn's grade who had contacted the school

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and that that led to the firing.

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And that was pretty much all I had known about

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the incident.

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S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)

Right.

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Okay.

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Okay.

13:32

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Good to know.

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Well, interesting that you got the letter.

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Did they send it to your address

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or your parents' address in Milton?

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Or do you remember which address it came to?

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S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)

I don't remember.

13:45

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If it was 2013,

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I must have lived here in Connecticut.

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So I'm guessing it was sent to my address here in

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Connecticut.

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Although they might have had,

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they probably had my contact information over the

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years.

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And I don't know if they had my email then.

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I would guess not.

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But I don't think so.

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But that's possible too.

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You know,

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my father was also interviewed at that time.

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I'm not sure.

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I think Glenn was interviewed,

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but I'm not sure.

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S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)

Right.

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Okay.

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Interesting.

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Yeah,

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Grant, because it seems from the investigation that

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they never interviewed anyone from the lower school,

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and that's where Mr.

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Ferguson had his office and the computer rooms,

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and he taught in the computer rooms.

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That was where he worked.

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Yeah, he was down at that computer room at

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the lower part.

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He was also a math teacher for the upper grades,

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which is mostly where I had him for math.

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Of course,

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I'm a few years older than you.

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age group and I don't know.

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But I think the age group was like

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around when I was like in seventh or eighth grade.

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So I would guess that that was sort of his target

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group was like seventh or eighth graders.

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Yeah.

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Also younger boys.

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So of nine,

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10 and 11 years old.

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Oh,

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really? I didn't know that.

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S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)

Yeah, well,

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that would be my brother.

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Yeah, apparently the...

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Entertainment.

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No,

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it was my youngest one,

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Richard.

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S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)

Oh,

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Richard.

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He was at the lower school.

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We were all in the upper school.

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And at the lower school,

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it seems that the ladies,

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there were three ladies,

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Miss Fitzpatrick,

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Miss Dewey,

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and Miss Kemper.

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They...

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It seems there's a gap from two to four,

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where Ferguson was left unsupervised,

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alone.

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And that's when the incidents took place over a long

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period of time.

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That's

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news to me,

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Christopher,

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the only ones I ever heard about was the ones from a

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year behind me.

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S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)

Yeah.

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During the interview,

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during the interview with the attorney,

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you know,

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I told him about the one young man who I knew about.

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He was the only one I had ever heard about.

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He was sort of friendly with my brother.

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And I think we were over there at maybe a day

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camp once during summer.

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And he was talking to.

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me i think and glenn and maybe a couple of other kids like

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the older boys you know and and sort of

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telling us a little bit about it,

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and that he was the one who had told the school.

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But he was the only one I knew about back then.

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But when the attorney talked to me,

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he brought up another boy,

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but it was also a boy from that same grade.

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But I didn't even remember that boy.

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It didn't ring a bell.

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I don't know.

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So I said,

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well, I don't know anything about that.

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The only one I knew about was...

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was the Edwards boy.

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Yeah,

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Alan Edwards.

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Yeah,

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Alan Edwards.

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Yeah, my brother Edmund remembers that Alan told

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him in the playground one time that Mr.

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Ferguson was in a room with a bunch of boys.

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He didn't tell me any details,

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but Edmund did not tell me all the details,

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but he did say that Alan had mentioned to him that there

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was...

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a number of sessions,

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whatever that means,

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of boys in Mr.

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Ferguson's apartment.

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I'm not sure where that was,

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whether it was in the,

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you know, he lived at Dexter or whether it was in the hotel or whatever.

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I'm going to have to ask my brother if he

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can remember any details.

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And also...

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I don't know for sure,

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but I think that Mr.

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Ferguson for a while did live in an apartment at the school,

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but I don't know what time frame that was.

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S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)

Yeah,

18:28

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so it seems that it's possible.

18:32

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A friend of mine spoke to Rick Saul,

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who was the business manager during this time.

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His name and number is mentioned in the letters that you have.

18:42

S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)

Yeah,

18:43

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I remember Rick.

18:44

S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)

Yeah, so he seems to have suggested to a friend of mine

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that although Ferguson's contract was terminated,

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that he actually lived on the premises for another four or five months until

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June of 71.

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That's quite a surprise.

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S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)

I also have a document from Dexter itself that

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says teachers who resigned,

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resignations,

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and his name was in that list of having technically

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resigned rather than having been fired,

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but we all know that he was fired.

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Yeah,

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I have that on record,

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that he was fired.

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S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)

On the page from Dexter's sheet of 1970 -71,

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there were a number of teachers who resigned,

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like Miss Kemper,

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some others,

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resignations,

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and Paul Ferguson was in there as well.

19:41

S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)

Okay,

19:44

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so I was just really curious,

19:48

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Ross,

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just to see if you had received a letter,

19:52

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because our family have had our house in Canton for

19:56

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donkey's years,

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you know, 50 years.

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None of us received a letter at that house.

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And so I'm sure Dexter

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had our address.

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They must have four boys.

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S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)

I mean,

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S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)

one house.

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My brother and mother were still living there in 2013.

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We never received anything.

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Had we received anything,

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of course,

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that might have sparked something.

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It only sparked my brother's knowledge when he read

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this letter.

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outlined what I told you,

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that Ferguson was fired,

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he was a registered pedophile for assaulting his own stepchildren and then was

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in jail for child pornography.

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