Russ Dalrymple

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Hey, Christopher.
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Hey there.
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Hi there,
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stranger.
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Fix the volume.
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Can,
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but the reception is a little bit slow.
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Let me turn off my camera and see if that...
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Hang on one second.
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Is this better?
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Do you have a good
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internet connection?
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Can
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you hear me?
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Looks like my internet is not so good.
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Better
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now.
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It
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looks like I've got a bad quality network.
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Let me just check my...
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Let me take it off this and put it on this and see if that works better.
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One second.
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I'm at the Harvard
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Club. It looks like their internet connection
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is not so good.
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Let me try this.
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Second.
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How's
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this, Ross?
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Is this connection any better?
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It's
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sort of like coming in and out on the video part.
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Yeah.
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Like it's all pixelated,
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sort of.
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Okay, that's probably better because I've aged and I'm not so sure whether
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my face has aged with grace or not.
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How
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are you, sir?
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I'm grand.
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I mean,
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it's been an interesting 30 years that have elapsed
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since I last evacuated the
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States to effectively live in London for
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20 years and then Berlin.
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for 10 years and now I work in Luxembourg and
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still live in Germany just on the border so I
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guess I'm a I'm a euro file and
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it's been grand the last
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30 years very interesting path of working as a
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mathematician for for banks as a quant
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as it were
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And yourself,
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what have you been up to?
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Well,
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after
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school, and then I retired from the FBI,
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and now I teach criminal justice at a school here,
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college here in Connecticut.
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Wow,
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you're doing the FBI.
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That sounds excellent.
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You know, I applied to join the CIA,
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and so one of the tests that you had to go through was a language test.
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Yeah.
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They said I got the highest score they had ever seen.
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Um, I,
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I, uh,
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yeah,
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at that time I,
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well, uh,
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you know, they give you a fake made up language test,
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you know, they make a language up.
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So you could not possibly have seen it.
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Um,
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at that time,
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of course I had,
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um, well was maybe considered a Latin scholar.
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I also spoke French and,
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and,
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um, Spanish.
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I lived in France.
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Uh,
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and so,
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um,
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Yeah, I speak eight languages or so.
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I've forgotten about five,
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so at one point it was quite high.
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But when they offered
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me the salary,
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it would never have paid my financial indebtedness
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to university because it just
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wasn't viable.
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So I had to reject that,
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but that was perhaps one of the biggest things that
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regrets, I mean,
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that I would have,
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but it just didn't work out financially.
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As you know,
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if you go through university,
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it ain't cheap and you got to
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pay it back.
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So I went into banking and it took me 10 years to pay all my debt back,
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10 years.
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Yeah,
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10 years too.
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It's funny.
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a similar maybe uh maybe even the same language test at the fbi
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academy they had all of us in my class probably all the agent trainees
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take the exam and i did terrible uh i was
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never very good at languages foreign languages
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Yeah, I suppose it depends.
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When I was in uni,
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I did my junior abroad in Paris,
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so I studied French.
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And once you learn one language well,
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the rest come into play so easily.
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I learned Italian in two weeks.
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Greek took me about two months.
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Russian took me one month.
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German,
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that took a good four months.
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Italian, I already said two weeks.
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Yeah, I've got a few others,
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but yeah, you have to know one well,
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learn it well,
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and then they roll off the line,
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depending upon your level of motivation,
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of course.
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Yeah, aptitude or I would say,
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yeah, aptitude,
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sure. And Dexter was a good part of that.
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I studied French.
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I got the French prize in Dexter.
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We studied Latin there,
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as you might recall.
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Yeah,
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I had Mr.
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Putnam for French.
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He was brilliant.
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He was a great guy.
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I didn't know him,
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but my father used to talk about him a lot.
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I think he started there after I was gone.
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Right.
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Yeah, he was an older gentleman probably.
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He looked like he probably should have been retired,
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but...
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He probably started when he was 65 or so,
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but, yeah,
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he was a great teacher.
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And,
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yeah, that started me on the path,
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and then that was what convinced me to do the junior year abroad from university
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in Paris,
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and that made a significant difference,
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positive difference in my life anyways.
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Yeah,
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as soon as I got back from Paris,
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I evacuated straight back to Europe.
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Right?
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Right.
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He was a year behind me.
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And then your other brother,
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it was Damon,
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right?
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Correct.
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And then were you the next brother or was the one in between?
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I was the next one.
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And then there was one younger brother who also went to Dexter.
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There were four of us who went to Dexter.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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There was,
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I'm just finding out events
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that took place 50 years ago.
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And I've just found them out in August and September.
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When my brother revealed to
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me, he didn't tell me,
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he just...
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pointed to me a bunch of documents and I read them because he had had sort of a mental
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meltdown.
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So I took a flight over from Germany to visit him to say,
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okay, what's going on,
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find out.
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And then I came across all these documents that,
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yes,
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he'd been, he'd been,
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how to put this,
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well.
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raped over a period of years by Mr.
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Ferguson.
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And I found out that Mr.
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Ferguson had been fired from Dexter
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in 71.
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He was registered pedophile in 1985
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for assaulting his own stepchildren,
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then ultimately put in jail in 2000 for child pornography
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and died last year.
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Oh, geez.
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I didn't know any of that stuff until you sent me the,
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not the stuff today.
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I'm pretty sure I remember those,
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getting those back in,
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I guess it was 2013,
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but I had never seen the previous one that you sent to me where it
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said that he had,
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I think he was single when he was teaching at Dexter.
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I never knew what happened to him after he left Dexter.
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Yeah,
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apparently he got married and assaulted his stepchildren.
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That's when he was registered as a pedophile in 1985.
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But curiously,
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I mean,
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those events happened in Dexter in 1971 when he was fired and
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still he was allowed a free roam,
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as it were,
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until...
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1985 and then not even put in jail until 2000.
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So he had a good 30 years run.
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Yeah. Escaping the law.
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I wonder often where he went to after Dexter and did Dexter blacklist him from
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his behavior.
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I don't know.
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Do you know much of the story at all about the two students
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who came forward at all or did that information?
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A little bit about that.
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I think you might know more than I do.
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I was maybe a seventh or eighth grader,
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and the rumors were going around.
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I remember,
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you know, classmates of mine,
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you know, sort of spreading rumors,
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but that was it at that time.
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And then what happened was,
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as I recall,
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there was a boy in Glennon.
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Ed's grade.
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And I think Ferguson went with them,
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the family,
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I think over to Europe someplace.
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It might have been London.
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And I think while on that trip,
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I think the father was a doctor.
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And so the mother went and with her boys
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and Mr.
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Ferguson was supposed to be like accompanying her because
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she didn't want to go.
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You know, without a man being there,
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I guess, with her.
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But the husband was working.
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So I think while on that trip,
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I think Ferguson tried to,
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and I don't know what he did,
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but he tried to do something with the boy that was in Ed and Glenn's grade.
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And that was the boy who told,
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or told his parents,
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or his mother,
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his parents,
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and I believe they were the ones that went to the school and said,
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you know, what had happened.
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And I think that's what got the ball rolling and led to Mr.
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Ferguson getting fired.
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Yes,
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exactly.
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That's exactly the corroboration of the details
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that I have as well.
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And then,
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but I don't know whatever happened after that.
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It's just he wasn't working there anymore.
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And that was it,
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as far as I know.
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And so I never heard anything after that.
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um until this invest i think i got that first letter from
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dexter you know in i guess it was 2013 which i you
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sent me i think this morning and i think i got both of those
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letters but i got the first letter and and um where
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they uh the new headmaster um todd vincent
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was saying that some
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students had come former students had come forward and they were going to look into it and
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this and that and then we got the second letter saying okay it was it was basically over
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and that i think that was the last i ever heard of it right see um it's
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it's interesting because uh none of us for burks went to
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dexter none of us got that letter and um
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My guess,
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I could be speculating,
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but my guess is that many other people did not get that letter.
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So I was curious to see if you got it.
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Yeah,
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I did get it.
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And in fact,
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as I mentioned in my email today,
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I was one of the people that was interviewed.
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So that law firm that I think was
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on the document you sent me the other day was hired.
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I'm sorry.
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Schwarzhennem is the name of the law firm.
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Schwarzhennem.
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Yes.
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S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
I didn't remember that as the name,
12:38
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
but I remember that in the letter it said that they were going to be conducting
12:42
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
the investigation.
12:43
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
And they contacted me,
12:46
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
I know,
12:46
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
and...
12:49
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
A gentleman from and I don't recall his name.
12:52
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
I think he was an attorney for that law firm,
12:55
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
but we had already been given the heads up from the letter.
12:58
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
So I was sort of anticipating that I might be contacted.
13:01
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
And sure enough,
13:02
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
I was.
13:02
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
And they asked me basically what I knew about
13:06
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
this incident.
13:08
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
And I told them basically what I just told you that the only.
13:12
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
The person I knew was the young man from Ed
13:17
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
and Glenn's grade who had contacted the school
13:21
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and that that led to the firing.
13:24
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
And that was pretty much all I had known about
13:28
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
the incident.
13:29
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Right.
13:31
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Okay.
13:32
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Okay.
13:32
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Good to know.
13:33
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Well, interesting that you got the letter.
13:34
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Did they send it to your address
13:39
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
or your parents' address in Milton?
13:41
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Or do you remember which address it came to?
13:44
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
I don't remember.
13:45
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
If it was 2013,
13:47
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
I must have lived here in Connecticut.
13:49
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
So I'm guessing it was sent to my address here in
13:53
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Connecticut.
13:54
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
Although they might have had,
13:55
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
they probably had my contact information over the
13:59
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
years.
14:00
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
And I don't know if they had my email then.
14:03
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
I would guess not.
14:04
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
But I don't think so.
14:07
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
But that's possible too.
14:09
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
You know,
14:11
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
my father was also interviewed at that time.
14:16
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
I'm not sure.
14:17
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
I think Glenn was interviewed,
14:18
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
but I'm not sure.
14:19
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Right.
14:20
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Okay.
14:21
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Interesting.
14:22
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Yeah,
14:24
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Grant, because it seems from the investigation that
14:28
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they never interviewed anyone from the lower school,
14:30
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
and that's where Mr.
14:31
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Ferguson had his office and the computer rooms,
14:33
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
and he taught in the computer rooms.
14:34
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
That was where he worked.
14:37
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
Yeah, he was down at that computer room at
14:41
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
the lower part.
14:42
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
He was also a math teacher for the upper grades,
14:46
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
which is mostly where I had him for math.
14:48
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
Of course,
14:51
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
I'm a few years older than you.
15:00
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
age group and I don't know.
15:01
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
But I think the age group was like
15:06
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
around when I was like in seventh or eighth grade.
15:09
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
So I would guess that that was sort of his target
15:14
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
group was like seventh or eighth graders.
15:16
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
Yeah.
15:17
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Also younger boys.
15:20
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
So of nine,
15:23
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
10 and 11 years old.
15:25
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Oh,
15:27
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
really? I didn't know that.
15:28
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
Yeah, well,
15:28
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
that would be my brother.
15:32
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Yeah, apparently the...
15:34
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
Entertainment.
15:35
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
No,
15:36
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
it was my youngest one,
15:37
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Richard.
15:38
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
Oh,
15:40
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Richard.
15:40
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
He was at the lower school.
15:42
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
We were all in the upper school.
15:44
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
And at the lower school,
15:46
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
it seems that the ladies,
15:49
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
there were three ladies,
15:50
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Miss Fitzpatrick,
15:51
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Miss Dewey,
15:52
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
and Miss Kemper.
15:53
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
They...
15:56
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
It seems there's a gap from two to four,
15:59
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
where Ferguson was left unsupervised,
16:02
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
alone.
16:04
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
And that's when the incidents took place over a long
16:08
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
period of time.
16:08
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
That's
16:13
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
news to me,
16:14
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
Christopher,
16:15
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
the only ones I ever heard about was the ones from a
16:20
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
year behind me.
16:22
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
Yeah.
16:23
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
During the interview,
16:25
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
during the interview with the attorney,
16:27
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
you know,
16:29
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
I told him about the one young man who I knew about.
16:32
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
He was the only one I had ever heard about.
16:35
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
He was sort of friendly with my brother.
16:38
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
And I think we were over there at maybe a day
16:42
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
camp once during summer.
16:44
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
And he was talking to.
16:47
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
me i think and glenn and maybe a couple of other kids like
16:52
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
the older boys you know and and sort of
16:55
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
telling us a little bit about it,
16:57
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
and that he was the one who had told the school.
17:00
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
But he was the only one I knew about back then.
17:03
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
But when the attorney talked to me,
17:06
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
he brought up another boy,
17:09
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
but it was also a boy from that same grade.
17:12
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
But I didn't even remember that boy.
17:14
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
It didn't ring a bell.
17:16
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
I don't know.
17:17
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
So I said,
17:20
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
well, I don't know anything about that.
17:21
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
The only one I knew about was...
17:23
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
was the Edwards boy.
17:26
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
Yeah,
17:26
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Alan Edwards.
17:27
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
Yeah,
17:29
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
Alan Edwards.
17:30
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Yeah, my brother Edmund remembers that Alan told
17:34
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
him in the playground one time that Mr.
17:37
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Ferguson was in a room with a bunch of boys.
17:40
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
He didn't tell me any details,
17:42
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
but Edmund did not tell me all the details,
17:47
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
but he did say that Alan had mentioned to him that there
17:51
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
was...
17:52
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
a number of sessions,
17:53
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
whatever that means,
17:55
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
of boys in Mr.
17:58
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Ferguson's apartment.
17:59
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
I'm not sure where that was,
18:01
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
whether it was in the,
18:02
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
you know, he lived at Dexter or whether it was in the hotel or whatever.
18:06
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
I'm going to have to ask my brother if he
18:10
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
can remember any details.
18:11
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
And also...
18:18
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
I don't know for sure,
18:19
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
but I think that Mr.
18:21
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
Ferguson for a while did live in an apartment at the school,
18:24
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
but I don't know what time frame that was.
18:27
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
Yeah,
18:28
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
so it seems that it's possible.
18:32
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
A friend of mine spoke to Rick Saul,
18:34
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
who was the business manager during this time.
18:38
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
His name and number is mentioned in the letters that you have.
18:42
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
Yeah,
18:43
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
I remember Rick.
18:44
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Yeah, so he seems to have suggested to a friend of mine
18:48
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
that although Ferguson's contract was terminated,
18:52
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
that he actually lived on the premises for another four or five months until
18:56
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
June of 71.
19:00
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
That's quite a surprise.
19:02
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
I also have a document from Dexter itself that
19:06
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
says teachers who resigned,
19:08
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
resignations,
19:09
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
and his name was in that list of having technically
19:13
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
resigned rather than having been fired,
19:16
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
but we all know that he was fired.
19:18
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Yeah,
19:23
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
I have that on record,
19:26
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
that he was fired.
19:31
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
On the page from Dexter's sheet of 1970 -71,
19:34
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
there were a number of teachers who resigned,
19:36
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
like Miss Kemper,
19:37
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
some others,
19:38
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
resignations,
19:39
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
and Paul Ferguson was in there as well.
19:41
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Okay,
19:44
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
so I was just really curious,
19:48
S… Speaker 2 (Russ Dalrymple)
Ross,
19:50
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
just to see if you had received a letter,
19:52
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
because our family have had our house in Canton for
19:56
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
donkey's years,
19:57
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
you know, 50 years.
20:00
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
None of us received a letter at that house.
20:01
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
And so I'm sure Dexter
20:06
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
had our address.
20:07
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
They must have four boys.
20:09
S… Speaker 3 (Russ Dalrymple)
I mean,
20:10
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
one house.
20:11
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
My brother and mother were still living there in 2013.
20:13
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
We never received anything.
20:16
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
Had we received anything,
20:17
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
of course,
20:19
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
that might have sparked something.
20:21
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
It only sparked my brother's knowledge when he read
20:25
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
this letter.
20:27
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
outlined what I told you,
20:29
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
that Ferguson was fired,
20:30
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
he was a registered pedophile for assaulting his own stepchildren and then was
20:34
S… Speaker 1 (Russ Dalrymple)
in jail for child pornography.

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