AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59

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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I'm pretty sure because since everyone is pressed with
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
time, surely,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I mean, with the chosen time,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
one can realize that we're really squeezing things in.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
We'll just quickly open.
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S… Speaker 4 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Introduction,
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
right? Yeah.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Okay, so my name is Tolani Pende.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I'm with the West Management Directorate,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
formerly known as...
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
So I'm part of the lead
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
team for the IWNP for Etegrini
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
and ourselves together with IngaOp,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
South Africa,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
we're working towards putting this document together for Etegrini.
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Good morning,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
everybody.
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S… Speaker 3 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I'm Shirin Mahavir.
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S… Speaker 3 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I'm from the KZN Department of Economic Development,
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S… Speaker 3 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Tourism,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
and Environmental Affairs.
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S… Speaker 3 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I belong to a unit called Pollution and Waste Management,
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S… Speaker 3 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
which is responsible for the review of your IWMP and
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S… Speaker 3 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
eventual investment.
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S… Speaker 4 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Good morning,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
colleagues.
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S… Speaker 4 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
My name is Wilson Mflavo.
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S… Speaker 4 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I'm the deputy head for Strategic and New Development,
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S… Speaker 4 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
employed in Latino Waste Management.
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Next one.
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Introductions are going your
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
own. Yeah, no,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
it's introductions and then sort of verify like what's wrong with
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
this whole picture.
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S… Speaker 5 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Oh, okay.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
So it's your turn.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Good time.
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Oh, all right.
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S… Speaker 4 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Okay,
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S… Speaker 5 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
good morning.
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S… Speaker 4 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Good morning.
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Yes,
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S… Speaker 5 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I'm Logan Ruffin.
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S… Speaker 5 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I'm with the things in the Solid Waste.
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Not only is Waste Management Director.
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S… Speaker 5 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
We're the client on the job.
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S… Speaker 5 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
The contract has been recently awarded last year.
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S… Speaker 5 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
This helps all parties
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
around.
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S… Speaker 5 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
So we get a sense of clarity and meeting
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S… Speaker 5 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
expectations when we start with that.
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Morning,
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S… Speaker 8 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
my name is Tony Gates and I'm with INJROP and
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S… Speaker 8 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
my role is in waste management,
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S… Speaker 8 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
waste management engineering.
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S… Speaker 8 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I'm based in Cape Town but move around different
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
areas.
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Good morning, everyone.
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
My name is Aparar Sadarji.
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I work for Ingenitor of South Africa,
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S… Speaker 4 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
assisting Tony on this project.
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Good morning,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
everyone.
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S… Speaker 6 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I'm Navika Gavinta with the Punggola -Mzumkulu Cashman Management
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S… Speaker 3 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Area at the PACMA.
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S… Speaker 6 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
We were formerly part of the Department of Water
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S… Speaker 6 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
and Sanitation,
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S… Speaker 6 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
but since the 1st of April,
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S… Speaker 6 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
are now recognized as the Cashman Management Agency.
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S… Speaker 6 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I am now in the Compliance Monitoring Enforcement Directorate.
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S… Speaker 6 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I think my role will come
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S… Speaker 6 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
in after your permit
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S… Speaker 6 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
or authorization has been issued,
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S… Speaker 6 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
but today I am here to see which department,
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S… Speaker 6 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
which section I can forward your other
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S… Speaker 6 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
information that may be required from our catchment management
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
agents.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
but um yeah i think just as a way of of of of trying
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
further our intention um as mentioned before is that i
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
think we're taking the approach of an inclusive uh activity
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
type which i think would get done so we didn't want to run through the projects
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
only at the end
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
a package that we deem as complete and only then run through for
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
comments, organisations and so on.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I mean since we obviously passed on time.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
So hence these types of engagements.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
So as said,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
this is probably one of a few that are to come.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
And as much as maybe the main angle
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
for this session was with the authorities and some
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of our officials, we are aware that,
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I think, on the 9th,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
there's another session with mostly the executive
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stakeholders.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
So,
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
yeah,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
we will actually trash more of the items there as well.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
So,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I think if I can just give...
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
he can go up with a chance which is possible from him.
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S… Speaker 7 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Thanks.
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 8 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Thanks very much.
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S… Speaker 8 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I've got a presentation.
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S… Speaker 8 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
It's not going to be too long.
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S… Speaker 8 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I don't think it's the purpose of this presentation is to present
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S… Speaker 8 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
the work that's been done so far and that is more to find out from your
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
side.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
side of the province and side of the proof is,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
the inputs that we may have.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
And it's part of the stakeholder process
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
as well.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I'll just give you a quick overview of the scope of the project,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
very quick, because it's actually just the Integrated Waste Management Plan,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
but we do have a waste characterisation study running parallel with
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
it. I'll give a little bit more detail later
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
on now.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
on the process we're using for the Integrated Waste Management
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Plan.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
And then I'll give you some information on the status quo that
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
we've prepared a draft.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
And then the last part I think is the most important
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
will be the Q &A discussion,
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which is where we would really like to know from the
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
departments their thoughts and their requirements.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Just the IWMP structure,
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the way we're doing it.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
We've got an introduction,
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just a context of stakeholders.
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Then we've got the status quo,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
which is where we are currently at the moment.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
It's just the current situation of waste in Etiquini.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
There's a gap in needs analysis,
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which comes afterwards,
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but it actually is formed while we're doing the status quo.
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The gap in needs analysis will fall into place.
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I think the most important part will be the objectives and goals,
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which I must say have been very well defined.
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What we've learned so far at Etiquini,
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the goals and strategies,
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it's been well defined at the moment.
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So we may be quite fortunate that
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a lot of that has been done.
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And then the implementation plan itself,
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which is just really going to set out the planning.
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the timing and the planning of the issues that need to be done.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
And
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the monitoring is just a section where we set up key performance
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indicators and how it's reported on.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Just the first
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part I talked about was introduction.
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It really just gives an oversight of what we're doing,
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approach and methodology.
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There's context,
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and the context is going to be sort of geography
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of the area,
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geographic planning.
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And then we've got land planning and geology,
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hydrology,
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road networks.
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Road networks we've learned are quite important because
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it's,
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especially nowadays,
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and I think that's pertinent for Etiquini
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because this transport is now the biggest problem in terms of waste
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management.
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Then there's the strategic alignment.
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That's against the National Waste Management Strategy.
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up to 2026 the draft we've including that the integrated
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development plan into QINI we
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review that and then there's a spatial development framework
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and then stakeholders
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participation so we have an engagement plan which has been prepared
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and submitted for approval and it just sets up the identifies
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the stakeholders and then there's the engagement methods we're
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going to use
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And then we will,
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and this is probably the first,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
well, we've had one meeting with yourself,
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Shireen, earlier,
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which was part of it.
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So this is probably the more formal
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one that started off now in terms of stakeholder meeting.
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As Polani said,
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there's one next week as well.
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Status quo,
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I'm just going to give you a very brief overview.
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I don't think it's necessary that you,
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I don't know if everybody's positioned the status quo draft.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Okay, that's fine.
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But I'll just give you a quick overview of it.
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So legislative
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requirements.
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So we look at all the legislative requirements and national
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ones and the provincial ones.
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And these are the kind
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of issues that we will approach or we'd like to discuss even today
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with yourselves.
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The demographics,
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the populations,
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waste management generation,
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characterisation.
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the waste management systems we've looked at,
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we've looked at the waste facilities,
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we've looked at the resources,
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the organization structure,
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financial...
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the Waste Reduction and Recycling and the Education Awareness Program.
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So these are part of the status quo,
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and we are
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filling it in.
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We've hopefully got most of it filled in,
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but there probably is some issues missing.
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The status quo is a
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living document in our mind.
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When we finish it next
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week or two weeks' time or whatever,
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It doesn't get signed off.
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I think we need to keep it up to date while
10:36
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we're going through the whole process so that at least we've got the up -to -date information and
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any missing information.
10:42
S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
So we consider it a living document.
10:44
S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
So
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
it's just the current state.
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
So it really generates 1 .3 million tonnes a year.
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It
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equates to about 0 .8 kilograms per person per day,
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which is pretty normal.
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If you would take it overall,
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but you get high income,
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you'll get probably over one,
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and then low income,
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you might get down to 0 .4.
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
So it's pretty normal.
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The collection covers 32,
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320 ,000 households.
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Curbside collection is 704 ,000 CBC
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informal collections.
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That's community -based collections.
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So 45 ,000 unsurfaced.
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
So it's got a good coverage.
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The fleet is 533 vehicles
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with the average age of about 11 years.
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It's a large fleet,
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I must say.
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
A very good spread of waste facilities,
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such as transfer stations,
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drop -offs and garden wastes.
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I have to say at this stage,
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I think it's probably one of the better systems I've seen for a long time
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for a city.
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I'm looking at some thoughts.
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
You're welcome to disagree,
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but I think it is one of the best systems.
12:23
S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Technically.
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If
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
you want to comment as we go along,
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or should we just finish the slide and then comment on the slide?
12:36
S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Oh yeah,
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perfect.
12:37
S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Waste
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aversion, what we've learned is low,
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but it's improving,
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and that's not new anywhere in South Africa.
12:48
S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
But there's new initiatives and public awareness,
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and I think the national waste management
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strategy has become a little bit more realistic than what it was in 2020.
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And I think it's going to be more manageable.
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Operating
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expenditure, you can see it's like most municipalities,
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metros,
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they spend more than they can get in.
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And that is a problem anyway.
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The trick,
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I suppose,
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is there.
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The answer to that is to try and get a little bit more efficient and to try and optimize
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what you've got.
13:29
S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Yeah.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
And
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then the landfills.
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So you see two landfills are closing.
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And then there's two landfills left,
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Bullfills Dry and Ilovo,
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and then Xiongueni is still to be developed.
13:48
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And I think that actually shows you also probably
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one of the big problems,
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not problems,
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but one of the big challenges for Pettiquini.
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They're so far once south and once north.
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And this is where the transport becomes a big problem,
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moving all your waste up to these two
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landfills or down to the landfill.
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I mean,
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it's a very good system
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of transfer stations.
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I haven't seen so many
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transfer stations in one city for a while.
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And it works well,
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
but it's just what with the price of petrol and diesel,
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
it's now becoming a huge problem.
14:40
S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Yeah, I think someone,
14:40
S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
like you said, this document will be regarded as a living form.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
It's a really detailed detail date.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Yes, sure.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Okay.
15:10
S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I
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think we
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had the stuff that was given to us.
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Nick
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gave us all the tables as well.
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
But we'll go and review that,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
sure.
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And that's,
15:42
S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
thank you, that's the purpose of now.
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Yeah, I think this data came from 25 or
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20. Yeah,
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it's fine.
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But overall,
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it's gone.
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I mean,
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that landfill's gone.
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Those have gone.
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And now you're going to look after them for the next 30 years,
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which is so at cost.
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so just a quick one on the waste current there's nothing else much more in the status
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quo those are
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
just the overall figures if you want to go through more of the status quo we can we
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
have to go through the report but i didn't want to get too too involved in what we what
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
we've done and what we always want to get involved in more discussion around
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around around the
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S… Speaker 3 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I know I said I was going to come into the air and do that but rather you not
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go on the status quo because the information is not updated like as
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S… Speaker 3 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
you mentioned some of the things are open so hence we not
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S… Speaker 3 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
go on with the status quo I had questions regarding some of it
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S… Speaker 3 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
but now that Logan has clarified it like the airspace you know it's not and
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S… Speaker 3 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
then the fleet as well the question I had was the
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fleet is it just the number or is it what's operational?
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
If you go back to that slide,
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what we're reporting is across all
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categories.
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So
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they all are operational,
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but they have various levels in terms of its life.
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But the average life across the 700 humans is
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9 .8 years.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
So what's emerging from the status quo assessment to
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
look at the data,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
it's telling us that our fleet is aged.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
it's approaching a point where it's going to cost us
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more to maintain them so a requirement would
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be from that assessment is to make good by investments so
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
you have a much more healthier reliable so i think that's
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what we can go into the airspace
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
i don't think it's a significant change because if you just look
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
at the numbers here just by by rate
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
In terms of
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the vehicles,
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the status quo has a breakdown of every section
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and type of vehicle.
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There we look at the ages.
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S… Speaker 3 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Does it include the landfill?
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Yes,
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it includes everything.
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Everything's included,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
yeah. The
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
waste characterization study,
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we've done one season.
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We have been trying to get to the throes of doing
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the next season,
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which is supposed to be now.
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
It's a four
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
season waste characterization study.
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2025 characterization study that was previously done for the
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C40 program.
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We had about 28 %
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organics and 18 % plastics.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
paper, which is the recyclables.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
But it doesn't vary much,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
even from the first one we've done now,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
we don't think there's going to be all that much change per
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season and even from previous waste
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characterization studies.
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I mean,
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ultimately, once we've sampled all the streams,
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we know where the waste is coming from.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
We can determine then the recyclables and the organics,
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and then you can start the waste diversion targets.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
which 2026 has now made a little bit more realistic.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
It's in 15 years time,
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which is 31,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I think.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
It's got 60 % to be diverted.
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And I
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think if you can see from the graph that the big one is going to be organics.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
It's probably the least
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
expensive one to try and work on.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
It's hanging fruit.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
When you get to paper,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
plastics, and the other recyclables,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
it becomes very expensive.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Gaps and needs.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
We've reviewed the gaps.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
We're not going to show any gaps and needs that we've picked up at the moment because
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I think this is where we want to start and pick up any
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ideas from ourselves.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
So we've reviewed the gaps that we've picked up in
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2016.
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What we haven't done at
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
the moment, we haven't really sat down with Golani and Logan to decide what
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
has been done out of those gaps and needs.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
We need to do that as soon as possible.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Waste stream analysis outdated was the first one,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
but I think that's been catered for now,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
so that has been done.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Not all households are getting,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
especially rural,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
are getting weekly collections.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I'm sure that's been improved since 2016.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Service upgrade,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I'm sure that's being addressed.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
And the limited data on industrial and hazardous waste
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generation.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
That's one of the things we have a problem with in integrated waste
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management plans.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
It's trying to find out what industrial waste is and hazardous waste generation.
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S… Speaker 4 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Look,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
it's not a responsibility of the municipality.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
It's responsible of the industry and
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
it's normally managed by private operators.
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Likewise with healthcare waste,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
it's not a responsibility of the municipality.
22:35
S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
And again,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
that's also managed by private persons.
22:46
S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
It's always good to know what
22:51
S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
What's happening in your area with these wastes?
22:54
S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
And that was one of the questions I think I might have had
22:58
S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
for you earlier,
22:59
S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Shireen,
23:00
S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
when we met, was IPWIS,
23:01
S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
whether you have no IPWIS,
23:04
S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
so there's no industry reporting to the provincial
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
information system or the national waste.
23:12
S… Speaker 3 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
They would be to the national,
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S… Speaker 3 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
but that's if they now trigger a waste -listed activity.
23:18
S… Speaker 3 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
So if they're doing anything other than that,
23:19
S… Speaker 3 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
there's no need for them to do it.
23:22
S… Speaker 3 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
But I did mention at the last meeting,
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S… Speaker 3 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
one way to maybe gather that information is through environmental
23:28
S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
health.
23:29
S… Speaker 3 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
They issue permits,
23:30
S… Speaker 3 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
and through those permits,
23:33
S… Speaker 3 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
they'll be able to get those data.
23:34
S… Speaker 3 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Yeah.
23:36
S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
In the past,
23:39
S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
I know the health department has always had a section where it manages all waste disposal,
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
particularly for the provincial hospitals and the
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S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
municipal clinics.
23:55
S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Although we are operating in a spatial area of the degree,
23:57
S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
our bylaw also needs this revision to obtain
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
information and you know how we manage that.
24:04
S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
So that's one of the things we add in a gap assessment
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
for the business turnaround under data
24:13
S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
and digitalization is to bring it into the bylaw
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
and compel residents,
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
commercial business,
24:22
S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
etc.
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
to report the basis,
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
not necessarily on the number.
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Diversion,
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
recycling,
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S… Speaker 5 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
ventilation,
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
but things like hazardous as well.
24:32
S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
So we can start creating the signature of what's coming in and
24:37
S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
that will become a compliance part of the integrated
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
waste plan that industry needs to submit to city.
24:45
S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
That's where we tend to go.
24:49
S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
So the building blocks of setting up a,
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
it's not too solid,
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S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
but an antiquity,
24:56
S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
we call it a waste information.
25:00
S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
developing the system now I think
25:05
S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
that's something that we do the gaps and maybe
25:09
S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
casting out the action plans I
25:14
S… Speaker 4 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
think that's right because what you
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S… Speaker 4 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
need to do is put those into the gaps the new gaps so they
25:22
S… Speaker 4 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
get taken forward in your plan and then you've got the opportunity to
25:26
S… Speaker 5 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
do them can I just ask as well in terms of transport I
25:31
S… Speaker 5 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
know you guys issue transport permits
25:34
S… Speaker 5 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Are they capturing any data in terms of the waste that's being used?
25:37
S… Speaker 1 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
Yeah,
25:38
S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
so transport permits.
25:39
S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
The owner for that is environmental health.
25:42
S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
That's linked to the scheduled trade.
25:45
S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
We can carry waste in that cleaning box.
25:48
S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
So that's what we're saying.
25:51
S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
The alignment of bringing other health,
25:54
S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
this is what we're doing.
25:55
S… Speaker 2 (AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59)
We're not calling

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