AUDIO-2026-05-29-10-11-59
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I'm pretty sure because since everyone is pressed with time, surely, I mean, with the chosen time, one can realize that we're really squeezing things in. We'll just quickly open. Introduction, right? Yeah. Okay, so my name is Tolani Pende. …
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1:40פרק 2: Oh, okay. 61s · Speaker 5
Oh, okay. So it's your turn. Good time. Oh, all right. Okay, good morning. Good morning. Yes, I'm Logan Ruffin. I'm with the things in the Solid Waste. Not only is Waste Management Director. We're the client on the job. The contract has bee…
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2:42פרק 3: I'm Navika Gavinta with the Punggola -Mzumkulu Cashman Management Area at the PACMA. 106s · Speaker 6
I'm Navika Gavinta with the Punggola -Mzumkulu Cashman Management Area at the PACMA. We were formerly part of the Department of Water and Sanitation, but since the 1st of April, are now recognized as the Cashman Management Agency. I am now …
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4:29פרק 4: yeah, we will actually trash more of the items there as well. 301s · Speaker 2
yeah, we will actually trash more of the items there as well. So, I think if I can just give... he can go up with a chance which is possible from him. Thanks. Okay. Thanks very much. I've got a presentation. It's not going to be too long. I…
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9:30פרק 5: ones and the provincial ones. 300s · Speaker 1
ones and the provincial ones. And these are the kind of issues that we will approach or we'd like to discuss even today with yourselves. The demographics, the populations, waste management generation, characterisation. the waste management …
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14:30פרק 6: but it's just what with the price of petrol and diesel, it's now becoming a huge problem. 146s · Speaker 2
but it's just what with the price of petrol and diesel, it's now becoming a huge problem. Yeah, I think someone, like you said, this document will be regarded as a living form. It's a really detailed detail date. Yes, sure. Okay. I think we…
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I know I said I was going to come into the air and do that but rather you not go on the status quo because the information is not updated like as you mentioned some of the things are open so hence we not go on with the status quo I had ques…
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18:58פרק 8: the vehicles, the status quo has a breakdown of every section and type of vehicle. 189s · Speaker 2
the vehicles, the status quo has a breakdown of every section and type of vehicle. There we look at the ages. Does it include the landfill? Yes, it includes everything. Everything's included, yeah. The waste characterization study, we've do…
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22:07פרק 9: generation. 65s · Speaker 5
generation. That's one of the things we have a problem with in integrated waste management plans. It's trying to find out what industrial waste is and hazardous waste generation. Look, it's not a responsibility of the municipality. It's res…
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23:12פרק 10: They would be to the national, but that's if they now trigger a waste -listed activity. 76s · Speaker 3
They would be to the national, but that's if they now trigger a waste -listed activity. So if they're doing anything other than that, there's no need for them to do it. But I did mention at the last meeting, one way to maybe gather that inf…
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24:28פרק 11: ventilation, but things like hazardous as well. 68s · Speaker 5
ventilation, but things like hazardous as well. So we can start creating the signature of what's coming in and that will become a compliance part of the integrated waste plan that industry needs to submit to city. That's where we tend to go…
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25:37פרק 12: Yeah, so transport permits. 86s · Speaker 1
Yeah, so transport permits. The owner for that is environmental health. That's linked to the scheduled trade. We can carry waste in that cleaning box. So that's what we're saying. The alignment of bringing other health, this is what we're d…
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27:04פרק 13: mean, you can get that information. 101s · Speaker 4
mean, you can get that information. That information is available, but then you have to go to Shumwini private, with most of the waste is probably industrial waste and hazardous waste going. It's not easy to get that information. I think li…
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28:46פרק 14: We've just recently completed the framework for that. 72s · Speaker 6
We've just recently completed the framework for that. So we believe that from that framework, there should be an increase in terms of, you know, this is not just speaking to recycling only, but, you know, it's speaking to us providing for a…
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30:00פרק 15: and I'm saying, yeah, that we might do it just quickly because he started the process of composting within these facilities. 303s · Speaker 2
and I'm saying, yeah, that we might do it just quickly because he started the process of composting within these facilities. We also had this particular program running parallel to that. Ours now is to package. this type of activities to wo…
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35:03
And then I think the last two is mainly on the financial business case around the market uptake at scale and what's needed in terms of investment and affordability together with the ongoing behavior change. I think that's broadly what we ar…
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37:32
Just to clear out that I think there is, I think it has started already that DC calculates where, I mean, with developments, there's already fees calculated, yeah, based on that for us to just get that. impact in terms of cost to existing s…
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what do you want to achieve and what you can achieve in those five years. Because we don't want a document. I said this in the meeting that we had in February. We don't want a document that you can't implement. And again, this orange bag sy…
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45:23פרק 19: I think before Logan responds, just the one thing you're talking about, the orange bags and that. 61s · Speaker 2
I think before Logan responds, just the one thing you're talking about, the orange bags and that. Those are very difficult programs. I mean, it takes a long time to get to a stage where you're actually happy with it. I mean, I've seen yello…
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46:25פרק 20: I do. Every step is sometimes two steps back again. 139s · Speaker 1
I do. Every step is sometimes two steps back again. It'll come right. I think the point I'm trying to raise as well is that we need a holistic approach when it comes to waste. I'll give you a good example. There's an illegal dump. Automatic…
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48:45פרק 21: I strongly believe that the framework is solely performed to also say we are now going to be. 74s · Speaker 3
I strongly believe that the framework is solely performed to also say we are now going to be... sitting with these PROs around the table. It speaks to outcomes of us being in a position of being given powers to the Office of the Director to…
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especially malls who are saying i can only have a contract with you if you've got this element of recycling that is going to be on site in my mall and then recycle so if you don't have that i'd rather go to a a private partner and get the w…
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52:06פרק 23: I just want to add to that. 105s · Speaker 3
I just want to add to that. I fully agree with you on that and with what Shireen has said. This definitely needs holistic because I know from personal experience, area where I live in, waste is such a problem and there is skips that have be…
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53:52פרק 24: I don't know if there's any more. 302s · Speaker 1
I don't know if there's any more. We can move on a bit. Just one thing. Does the province require a hazardous, a household hazardous waste plan? There's a national strategy and it's become a requirement elsewhere. Not at the moment. Okay, t…
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58:54פרק 25: who are only pays. 105s · Speaker 1
who are only pays. The proposed tariffs you've seen in the public domain has come down by how much? If you've been watching it, it's 3 .5 % on the business. So if I'm losing an increase of my tariffs for waste by three and a half percent, w…
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1:00:40פרק 26: operating cost. 81s · Speaker 2
operating cost. But we're not in the game to make a 50 % profit. We just want to break even. Because our core is on a private good and a public good. The private good is a collection to the rate payer, which is a user charge, and you can ma…
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1:02:01פרק 27: We're not getting it. 162s · Speaker 5
We're not getting it. We're probably covering 60 -70 % if we are on the good side of the business. So I think there needs to be a case push -up to increase that portion. I think for us, we have our own battles in terms of what's being dispe…
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1:04:44פרק 28: Let's query something. 301s · Speaker 4
Let's query something. Okay, this may just be a smaller area of inclusion into the waste management plan, but currently there is issues with leachate management. and vehicle availability, I would assume it fits into disposal of the treated …
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1:09:45פרק 29: etc. When you improve your cost coverage ratio to at least north of one, then I can reinvest on it. 301s · Speaker 1
etc. When you improve your cost coverage ratio to at least north of one, then I can reinvest on it. And I can demonstrate to the banker. That's like your home loan application. No one's going to give you a bond. You can't put up at least a …
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1:14:47פרק 30: there were section 30s over talking. 301s · Speaker 1
there were section 30s over talking. So I think we've got to look at the management concepts together with having a state of ultimate. Okay, thanks. I think we've been running out of time a bit. What are we knocking off at? Ten o 'clock. Te…
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1:19:48פרק 31: Yesterday we had some high ex -chief, Mr. 70s · Speaker 2
Yesterday we had some high ex -chief, Mr. NG. coming across with the ministers. There's muscle coming. You know, it's not through a transparent process. You're not comfortable. Those are the issues. And you work at a different level, just a…
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1:20:58פרק 32: thank you very much. 133s · Speaker 5
thank you very much. There's a door. Because they could see we want to do proper business. So it's how do we take this good work and now put it out? I mean, that's the space we need. Okay. Thank you. So public awareness, management systems,…
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1:23:12פרק 33: We don't actually have provincial branch. 67s · Speaker 3
We don't actually have provincial branch. We are national. We are just regarded as a regional office. So yeah, in terms of waste, we don't have a set sector that's waste management or waste. It's just protection of the water. Yeah, not sinc…
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1:24:19פרק 34: Yeah, compliance monitoring. 301s · Speaker 5
Yeah, compliance monitoring. And Shireen, I think you've explained your responsibilities, so we know those. Thank you. Legislative requirements. We found strategies, some strategies for the province, but I'm not sure we've covered them all.…
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1:29:21פרק 35: I spent too much time talking about it, but compliance monitoring and enforcement. 301s · Speaker 2
I spent too much time talking about it, but compliance monitoring and enforcement. I mean, you have your... you say you have your monitoring requirements water affairs have their monitoring requirements in the ground i don't know if there's…
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1:34:22פרק 36: Each one of these have targets. 221s · Speaker 1
Each one of these have targets. I think the last important one is perhaps linked to some way of formal compliance, and that's here. So service coverage, collecting all areas with informal, informal. The informal around the challenges you me…