Papar sahaja
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
All right, today is March 31st, it's Tuesday, 12-27.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
First question, what do you think CMU should do
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
that would make your college experience better?
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
For, like, an overall thing, I think give more,
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
well, not give more options, because they do have a lot of options
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
and, like, stuff that you can help,
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
but, like, make sure that kids know those options, you know?
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
So awareness, you'd say.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, make the students aware of, like, the needs,
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
or not the needs, but the, you know, what am I trying to think of here?
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
The things that CMU has to offer, I should say.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Okay, yeah.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Because I know a lot of kids don't know, like,
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
even, like, the counseling center or stuff like.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Why would you say that?
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
You think maybe because there isn't really enough awareness?
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yeah, yeah, because, I mean, I know it's always empty in a lot of places.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Like, even, like, the library, kids don't, like,
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
some kids didn't even know where it was at.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Yeah, okay.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Like, stuff like that.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
You think that would help you?
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yeah?
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yeah.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Okay, okay, cool.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Anything else or just?
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Nothing I can think of.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Okay, all right.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Moving on, thinking back to, before you came to CMU,
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
what was the main reason you decided to come here?
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
So, I came here because I had a lot of teachers, like, that went to CMU.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
And they were like, yeah, so this used to be, like, the teaching school.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Like, if you want to be a teacher, you're going to Central, no matter what.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
But, and my technology teacher in high school,
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
she was the one that basically got me to go to CMU.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Her name was Ms. Begita.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
And she really helped me settle down with the CMU decision.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
And, yeah, she told me it was great living here for her four years,
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I believe she went here.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
So, that was the big reason.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Did you apply to any other schools?
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I did.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I applied to Grand Valley, and then I applied to, like, the, like, Mott, U of M, Flint.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I applied to, what was the other one?
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
It was, was it Eastern?
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I think it was Eastern.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Or Western.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
It was Western.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Oh, boy.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yeah.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Were you admitted into those schools?
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I was, I was.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I know Grand Valley for sure.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
And then U of M, Flint, you automatically, I think it's a, it's a community college, so.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
And then Western, I believe so.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
So, main reason you'd say you chose seeing you over those schools was your teachers?
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yes.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Was my teachers.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
And knowing that this is, that it was at least a primary, like, if you wanted to become a teacher,
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
you would go here.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
You know, like, it's high up in that level.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
All right.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
All right.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Now, moving on.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Tell me about your typical week.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
You know, how many classes do you have this semester?
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
If you work, how many hours a week you need to work?
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Kind of, like, around there.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
So, school will look like Monday.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
So, Monday, I have two classes.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I have one at 11 and then one at 2.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
And then that's the same with Wednesday.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
And then Tuesday, Thursday, I have one at, I have a class at 10.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
And then I have one at 12.30 and then I have one at 2.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
So, five classes.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yep.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Five classes total.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
And then I have work.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Work, I normally work on the weekends.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I work at L. Kelly's.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Normally, weekend shifts, like, from 5 to 9 or from 6 to 9.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Sometimes, I'll work weekdays, like, if they just need some help.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Like, sometimes, I'll work 12 to 1 or something like that, whatever I'm free.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
What else did I need to answer there?
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
How many hours would you say you'd work a week then?
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Just a typical week.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Like, probably, I mean, anywhere from, like, I mean, I only work one to two days, so about
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
8 or 10, 8 to 10.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
8 to 10, nice.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
So, what about your social life in that week?
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Well, I go and play basketball at the SAC a lot.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I go, I mean, I go hang out places.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I go to the bars.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I go to, what's some other things.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
You know, we'll go out to eat.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I mean, we'll walk around dorms.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I know a lot of people here, so.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I mean, I'll invite people up, too, and they'll meet everyone and hang out with us.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Do you feel like you have enough time to socialize?
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I definitely do.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Okay, that's good.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
That's good.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
What about in terms of self-care?
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Do you feel like...
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
do you have enough time for that um sometimes um i feel like you know i do have a busy schedule
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
in a sense um but i do find time for myself and you kind of need to as a college student
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
um i feel i feel like recently for sure that i have gotten better with my self-care and being
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
able to focus on myself a little bit that's good that's good that's really good um
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
all right so uh we'll move on um given your weekly activities how do you feel about your typical week
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
like stress maybe you know comfortable going through the motions um as of recently i feel
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
like it's going going good um i know a couple weeks months ago i wasn't doing so well and it was like
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
very stressful um but it was mostly because of like the schoolwork that i needed to get caught up
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
and not being able to go to some classes because of some other things but oh in all i say that i'm
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
doing much better now okay okay that's good that's good um how do you you know when you do feel stress
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
how do you you know kind of tackle that feeling would you say um well i've been going on a lot
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
of walks um i do i i like listening to music that clears my head um or i'll just go talk to people
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
you know i have great friends and i can go talk to them about anything if i if i'm in trouble they
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
can go help me out or they get i don't even have to tell them i can just say like hey like can we go
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
do something they'll go do it and then we don't talk about it so clears my head in a way okay that's
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
so is there anything in particular maybe that you feel that's causing you to have too much stress
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
going on up here would you say maybe or maybe external um well i mean my medication and stuff
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
for my anxiety but that's more of just like a thing that happens um and then i mean it's not so
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
much school work but i mean school work's always going to be stressful i mean who likes to do it
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
anyways but um yeah i guess those would be the two factors and you know like trying to keep up with
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
family and friends and stuff like that okay all right that's good all right okay so i'm gonna have
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
you fill out now this um this sheet um talking about how much stress you feel in different parts
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
you're like sick i mean if there's one you don't want to answer to you don't have to you don't
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
have to put down anything i got you you want to say yes okay perfect thank you so much um all right
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
so you put down a moderate amount for paying for college kind of you know kind of give me an example
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
of that okay well so i know that i'm gonna have to pay for all this and i had i do have loans to
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
come here but i know i'm gonna have to eventually pay those off and with the teacher salary i know
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
it's gonna be kind of hard and it's gonna i'm gonna have to wait a while for it so that's my
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
really only concern you know and like i mean i'm working down to get some money to pay for gas and
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
stuff like that um because i'm not i mean my board my board like living here my room board it's
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
paid through my uh my yeah through my loan and next year i'm gonna have to pay like out of pocket
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
basically so even next year you know that's the part where maybe i'll get in a little bit of trouble
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
but i think that i'll just get more shifts and i'll be fine okay um so you're saying that you
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
for the most part you have a plan for yes yes all right that's good that's good um you also put
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
down a moderate amount for um family kind of go into that um so my family my dad and mom are split
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
up and i do not no longer talk to my mom um she has had some issues in the past i'm gonna say what
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
but she's had some issues
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
she's had some issues
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
that's fine she's had some issues in the past and um i have uh my dad and my stepmom and then
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
uh my sister lives with my dad full-time too my brother's down in alabama he just joined the
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
national guard um he is he's been struggling a lot with mental health issues and stuff like that
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
he'll give me a call every two weeks or so and so that's that's where my worry comes from is my mom
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
my brother but other than that like and my sister just had uh she got an mri and her shoulders all
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
messed up so she won't be able to play softball so i kind of feel upset for her but um the reason
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
why i did put more is because i know that if they need me they will contact me and i know if i need
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
them i can contact them anytime i want um there's no hard feelings for any of them it's just something
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
i gotta worry about them because they're my family all right all right understood understood um so how
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
do you kind of go about that then you know just that assurance that you know they'll need you if
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
you yeah yes so um my so my little sister she is a junior in high school she was never a talkative
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
person growing up and i feel like whenever i go home the person she talks to most is me okay and
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
having that feeling that like she's finally coming out of her shell you know and i'm the person she
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
comes to talk to i know that if she really needs something she'll come talk to me that's good um
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
and my brother even too right like he's called me a couple times saying that like i'm the only guy
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
that he can call and i'll like for sure answer or that i'm the only person there for him still
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
yeah and then my mom um she texts me every now and then um you know we still have a harder
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
relationship but i always still go see her on holidays i always talk to her i always say i love you
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
i always um she's still my mom you know and she i mean she no one's going to be the greatest mother
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
ever but but you know she's she's still my mom so okay that's good that's great all right so
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
we're gonna move on from that a little bit and kind of direct towards like again with your like
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
weekly overall you say you feel you balance your weekly activities pretty well yes yes i do yes
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
okay all right because i mean most of these that you have on here yeah much you know little to no
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
stress at all so that that's really good okay all right um so on in terms of like like your
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
perspective what would you say on these ones that you said that you know you had a moderate amount
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
would you say it needs to like maybe change in those areas to make the life your life would you say
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
less stressful okay um well maybe paying for college maybe just what would make it less stressful
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
is more i mean i mean i can be picky with this and just say give me more work hours so i have more
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
money you know or i could be like uh maybe get a financial advisor to help me through what i can pay
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
for as of right now and what i can't um i'm not too stressed out about it just because i know a lot
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
of people um they go through college and they they don't have the money at all yeah either and
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
they get through it so that's what kind of gets me like i'm okay with it um family wise um i know
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
like contacting them more would definitely you know just make me feel better about it um and i do
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
contact all of them um but still i can text my dad every every week um brother every two weeks
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
maybe sister every month um but yeah all right good good good okay um so we're gonna turn our
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
attention to another topic now um that's kind of related but um we're gonna talk about drinking
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
alcohol among college students so looking back how would you compare student drinking at your high
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
school to drinking among students here at cmu okay so my um can i go like through like a backstory here
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
do you want me just to answer the question you can do you can do the backstory i mean also think
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
about like different groups like you know cliques okay people like um so i know that i got
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
introduced to alcohol my freshman year or my freshman year of high school um i was on the football team
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
at the time and i was really good friends with some seniors and i was really good friends with the
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
sophomore at the time who knew the seniors and we would go hang out with the seniors and they
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
introduced me to it um it was like it was a very very small group of people okay um but they were
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
on football teams sports teams stuff like that they were very popular kids okay um i know my when it got
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
to my
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Senior year, it got like, you know, there were plenty of kids who were drinking alcohol, like way more freshmen drinking alcohol.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
There was way more, you know, just like a four-year difference is a huge different thing.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Compared to now, you know, I feel like because we can go to bars and because there's like fake IDs and stuff,
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
that even those kids from high school now have those fake IDs and they get into bars here.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yes. So I think it's changed a little bit getting into college, but I feel like the amount that you drink in high school is way less than you do in college.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
And the amount and more days.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
So how often would you say that they drink maybe in high school as compared to like college?
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Well, I think Friday through, I mean, Friday, Saturday, they would drink, I mean.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Every weekend, would you say?
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yeah, every weekend.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
In high school, anyways.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
In college, you know, there's some, I wouldn't say, I mean, you got like Tuesdays here, they got bar deals, they got Thursdays, Fridays, Saturdays.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I mean, they got deals all week, I mean, Wednesday even.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
So I feel like there's more opportunities to drink and people with those fake IDs can get in really anywhere because they don't care about it here.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yeah.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
So that's kind of where.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
So how much would you say that in high school would they drink?
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Would they drink to like blackout, would you say?
16:34
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yeah, yeah.
16:34
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Oh, yeah.
16:35
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
No, they'd, I mean, all of them too.
16:37
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Like, no matter if it was a big group or small group, they'd all blackout.
16:42
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
So was this mainly the primary, like popular group or like, was this like, you know, other people too?
16:47
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
No, this was like, well, there were other people, but I mean, I didn't firsthand see them, you know.
16:54
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I knew they were there, but like, the, so my freshman year, they used to be different groups.
17:02
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
And then when I got to my senior year, there was one big group.
17:04
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
17:04
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Um, and it wasn't just like the most popular kids were doing it.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
It was like almost everyone.
17:11
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yeah.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
17:11
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Um, in high school, I should say.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yes.
17:13
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
17:14
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
All right.
17:15
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Um, looking at drug use, was there drug use at your high school?
17:19
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Um, well, marijuana.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yes.
17:21
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yes.
17:22
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Um, I don't think any other things.
17:25
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Um, well, I mean, this also could count as like vape, by the way.
17:28
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Oh, okay.
17:29
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Nicotine.
17:29
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Oh, yeah.
17:29
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yeah.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Nicotine.
17:30
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yes.
17:31
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Nicotine.
17:31
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Uh, well, vaping, yeah.
17:34
S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)
Uh, Zins.
17:35
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yup.
17:35
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Um, there, there was marijuana.
17:40
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Uh.
17:40
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
17:41
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
So nothing like too crazy?
17:43
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
No, no, no.
17:43
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Nothing.
17:43
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
No, no, no.
17:44
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Um, did certain crowds maybe use more drugs?
17:48
S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
17:48
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yes?
17:49
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yeah.
17:49
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
There was a, I remember a certain, certain group of kids that would always do it.
17:53
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Like, they'd do it in the bathroom.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
At school?
17:55
S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)
At school, yeah.
17:56
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
17:56
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
And, I mean, they'd do it with, this is where it goes back to like the freshmen now.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Like, they would do it with the seniors.
18:03
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I'm like, no one in my freshman class would have done that with seniors there, so.
18:09
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
18:10
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
And, um, so, um, how often do you think that they use these drugs, you know, these group
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
kids?
18:17
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Oh, it was, I mean, it was every day.
18:18
S… Speaker 4 (20260331-122704)
Oh, God.
18:19
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
18:19
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yeah.
18:20
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
18:20
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
It was every day.
18:21
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
They, I mean, I mean, if they were doing it in school, it had to be every day, you
18:27
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
know?
18:27
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
18:27
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Like, why bring you to school if you weren't addicted to it that much?
18:30
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
18:31
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Um, do you think there was a problem at your high school?
18:34
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I do think there was a problem at our high school.
18:36
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
And, I mean, the, I mean, even like the teachers and, uh, like, faculty knew that there was
18:41
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
a problem.
18:42
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Like, they would go into bathrooms all the time, like assistant principals, and, um, they'd
18:47
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
catch people doing shit, and then they, or stuff, sorry.
18:50
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Um, they'd catch people, and, okay.
18:52
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
You're okay.
18:52
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Um, they'd catch people doing stuff, and they, uh, I know a couple kids got, not kicked
18:59
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
off the football team, but they got suspended for a couple games, and then I know, uh, there
19:04
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
were other kids who got suspended for, I think, a week, and then, uh, they got in-school suspensions,
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
too.
19:10
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
19:10
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
19:11
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Um, do you think that there's a reason, maybe, that those, like, say the kids that partied
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
the most, like, throughout high school, you know, maybe partied, like, was there, you
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
know, an underlying reason, maybe, you think, or just to fit in?
19:24
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I just think, like, peer pressure, too.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
You know, like, oh, this kid's doing it, why wouldn't I?
19:29
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yeah.
19:30
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Okay, just to fit in.
19:31
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
19:31
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yeah, and I know a lot of kids that did that, and that's why they're, they ended up with
19:35
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
doing this stuff later on.
19:37
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay, okay.
19:39
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Um, now we're gonna move on here, and, um, some people, now talking about college, some
19:46
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
people that, um, work with college students talk about an increase in binge drinking.
19:51
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
19:51
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Have you heard the term binge drinking?
19:52
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yes, yes, yes.
19:52
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yes?
19:53
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
19:54
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Um, what does binge drinking mean to you, would you say?
19:56
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Um, like, having a certain amount of-
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
of drinks in a sitting i guess um like a certain amount i don't know what the amount is but i know
20:05
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
it's like so the official bridge drinking definition is it's four drinks for a female
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
and five drinks for a man okay in a single sitting okay okay so like a single sitting meaning like
20:16
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
like i just a single night like a night okay okay okay um um what do you think about this
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
official definition um well i feel like uh i think that more people binge drink than they
20:33
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
actually think and i i'm sure everyone has heard of it but i don't think they actually know what
20:38
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
the definition of it is and i feel like a lot more people binge drink here than they actually know
20:44
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
okay um yeah um from your point of view maybe is it you think there could be a better label to
20:51
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
binge drinking um i maybe over drinking maybe like something like that you know because like
21:00
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
you think of like binge watching right you're sitting down and watching tv for a long time
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
and so that's kind of what i think is it's like over drinking to a point okay um now going into the
21:15
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
personal side how often do you think you engage in binge drinking um not too often anymore i know i
21:24
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
used to a lot um i've kind of cut back on it because of personal reasons um i i think that i did it
21:33
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
maybe once a week maybe maybe once every two weeks um but back in my freshman year it was two
21:44
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
three days a week okay and it was yeah okay um would you and your friends here at cmu be considered
21:51
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
binge drinkers yes yes okay um i know a couple people that you know why would you say just because
21:57
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
um well i mean i've hung out with them and i've seen them do it and even like not even college
22:03
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
friends you know like at home friends that come up here they 100% do it too okay okay and uh when
22:09
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
your friends you and your friends i know you said you don't do it as much anymore but you know how
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
many drinks um do you and them have maybe before you know you go out to a party or the ball it could
22:24
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
be i mean it could be any number it depends on how much time we're doing it in um let's say i mean
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
you know pre-game if that's the word we want to use here um if we have something to do at
22:38
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
9 30 10 o'clock and we get somewhere at five or six i mean there'll be 10 drinks per person down
22:47
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
okay you know and depending on what those drinks are okay um sometimes it's less depending on the
22:53
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
person if they want to if they don't want it they just want to you know be included and do it
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
and drink maybe they'll drink three or four and then they'll go out and you know yeah so you'd
23:04
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
like obviously it probably difference from when yeah yeah yeah okay all right perfect um how often
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
i know you said you don't do a lot but do you binge drink during a typical week maybe during a
23:18
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
typical month um typical week i mean it used to be once but i'm trying to cut down on it so i'm
23:25
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
trying to say like i'm trying to get to maybe once a month okay it used to be i mean how many
23:31
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
weeks are in a month um like yeah so probably three four or five like those how many days um
23:38
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
that's good that's good um when you drink where do you usually drink um i mean it can be any it can be
23:48
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
anywhere from uh an apartment to a bar to a dorm to uh anything of that matter okay okay um is there
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
a particular reason why you go there um you know it's just like it's comfortable you know it's not
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
like i'm doing it in front of people i don't know okay so i won't like it's a friend in front of them
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
yeah yeah um because you know embarrassment's a thing too when you go out and drink so i'll i've
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
never gone out to a bar and gotten 10 drinks at a bar because i don't feel too comfortable doing it
24:24
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
there but okay okay that's good um moving on uh where would you say you get the money to pay for
24:35
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
your alcohol you know could this be your job like you said or your parents maybe savings it would be
24:42
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
it would be my job it would be my job okay okay um that's good that's good from your perspective
24:50
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
what are the reasons why some other college students spins drink
24:56
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
um can you say can you repeat the question sorry so like looking
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
you
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
you
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
you
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
you
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
you
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
you
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
you
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
You know, from your point of view and looking at other college students, why would you say that?
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Like, what is their reasoning behind binge drinking?
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
So you can look at it different ways and say it can be for fitting in or it could just be for having fun.
25:17
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Or it could just be for, you know, you like getting drunk or you or you actually have an issue where you need to do it because you don't want to.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
You want to forget something or, you know, you don't want to remember the day or something like that.
25:33
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
You know, that's just like mental issues.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
For me, I would say it was more of just like, you know, I'm going out and having fun.
25:40
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I'm a college student.
25:43
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
It's not so much of like I want to do it to black out and say that I blacked out.
25:48
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
You know, it's not fun to do that.
25:51
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yes.
25:52
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
25:53
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
I'm going to have you fill out another sheet here.
25:56
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
25:59
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
There's questions on there you don't like answering.
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S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)
You don't have to.
26:15
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Would you like a beverage or anything by chance?
26:18
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
No, thank you.
26:18
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
26:20
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I feel more attractive.
26:37
S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)
It makes you feel less attractive.
27:04
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
There you go.
27:05
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
All right.
27:09
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
So for to feel the physical effects you put down most of the time, kind of give me maybe an example.
27:19
S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
27:20
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
So if I know in the past, if I would like, if I was planning on doing it, I would want to feel the effects of it.
27:28
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
You know, like mental reasons to numb pain in a way.
27:34
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
27:35
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
To maybe just feel, I don't know.
27:39
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I, you know, you got, you get like the funny feeling where you're just laughing all the time or you're making jokes or you're, you know, you're having fun.
27:45
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Um, yeah, that's basically the.
27:49
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
27:49
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
And would you say, like, you said, like, in the past, would you say that in high school or even last year?
27:56
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yeah.
27:56
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
27:57
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Um, for taking the YOLO attitude, you put, uh, about half.
28:02
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yeah.
28:02
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Kind of go, kind of go into that.
28:04
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Um, well, sometimes you just like, well, you know, I'm only in college once.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Why not?
28:09
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
You know, um, just sometimes you have that.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I don't give a frick attitude.
28:17
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Um, you just, you know, you go out and do dumb things with your college student.
28:22
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Um, you're, I mean, at this age, you're 19, 20, 21 years old and you're going to go do dumb stuff, but, um, still got to control it in a way.
28:31
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
That's why, you know, I said half the time because you don't, I hate embarrassing myself.
28:37
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
So that's kind of why I put it there.
28:39
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
28:40
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
And you, would you say that kind of goes into the FOMO part?
28:43
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yes.
28:43
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yes.
28:44
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Half the time.
28:44
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yep.
28:44
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yep.
28:45
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
You know.
28:45
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
28:46
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
And then for, um, to celebrate special events, you also put half the time.
28:50
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yeah.
28:51
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Going to that, you know.
28:52
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Um, did you go out for St. Patrick's Day?
28:54
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Um, did I?
28:56
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I don't think so.
28:57
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I think I drove people around on St. Patrick's Day, but I think the weekend after we were still celebrating it.
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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
So, you know, I had people up here and I, you know, I went around and had fun.
29:08
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Um, I know Halloween, I went out two, three times.
29:12
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Um, I had friends up here and then, uh, what's another holiday?
29:17
S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)
You know, like New Year.
29:19
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Valentine's.
29:19
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yeah.
29:19
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
I didn't, I didn't go out for Valentine's.
29:21
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
New Year's, I did, uh, I mean, I went to a house, but, um, we celebrated that.
29:26
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
And then birthdays, you know, anytime there's a birthday, we go and try to have fun.
29:31
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
29:31
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
All right.
29:32
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
That's sweet.
29:32
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Thank you so much for coming right now.
29:34
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Mm-hmm.
29:35
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
All right.
29:35
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Um, we're going to go into, um, kind of like, uh, back to your, like, a little bit week and,
29:41
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
uh, talk about drinking that week.
29:44
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Now, you know, what is it, like, about, you know, your typical week or weekdays that, you
29:50
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
know, is going on, that, um, going on in your life that is different than the weeks when
29:56
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
you do not drink as much?
29:58
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Like, what's the difference between...
30:00
S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)
A drinky day and, you know, a typical weekday.
30:05
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Well, you're talking about, like, the week.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
So, like, if I have, like, well, let me explain.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
If I have a week that I don't, that I'm not doing too well in, right,
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
sometimes I won't just to get out of my head.
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Because if I do drink, the next day is going to be even worse, like,
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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
overthinking-wise because of the anxiety and stuff like that.
30:27
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
But what I do, it's more of just like a, like,
30:30
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
I don't want to think about anything right now type of thing.
30:35
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Yeah.
30:36
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay, okay.
30:38
S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)
Now, could you give me an example maybe of that?
30:44
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Like, I had a problem with a girl and I stuff didn't end well,
30:50
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
so I decided to drink on the day after, try to forget about it.
30:56
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay, I understand my names.
30:59
S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)
So, do you see students who have experienced maybe negative consequences
31:04
S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)
from drinking too often?
31:06
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Like, kind of like what you're saying?
31:07
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Yeah, I know a couple kids that would, you know, get DUIs even.
31:12
S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)
DUIs, MIPs maybe?
31:13
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Yeah, I know a couple people that got MIPs.
31:18
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
There's, and they've, I mean, they've gotten in trouble at the bar too,
31:22
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
fighting even, you know, stuff like that.
31:26
S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)
Okay, maybe a specific example.
31:29
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
I know the same kid got, drove into a building and then the next week he was,
31:38
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
or he got put in jail and then got taken out.
31:43
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
And then, I think not too long after, he started fighting a kid while on alcohol,
31:48
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
or under the influence, I should say.
31:50
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
31:50
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
I know another kid that, I mean, he goes and fights at bars all the time.
31:55
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Not even just like here, I know that kid's brother even.
31:58
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
I mean, he'll go out and go fight kids at the bar and his school too.
32:01
S… Speaker 4 (20260331-122704)
Okay, okay.
32:05
S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)
From your perspective, when does drinking become a problem for college students?
32:10
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
When you, it starts to get a problem when you, I mean, I don't want to say it starts becoming a problem
32:17
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
when you get in trouble because that shouldn't be the reason, like why you should think like,
32:22
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
hey, this is a problem, you know?
32:23
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
I think it should be a problem when you don't remember multiple times, you know?
32:28
S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)
Like, it's not a good thing when you don't remember anything you did in the past day.
32:35
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Okay.
32:36
S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)
Um, yeah.

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The transcript discusses students' opinions on how Carnegie Mellon University (CMU) can improve their college experience. It mentions the importance of awareness about the university's resources, such as counseling centers and libraries, and the impact of having teachers who attended CMU on the decision to attend the university. The student also describes their typical week, including the number of classes they have and the amount of work they need to do.
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