Meeting with the ministry 1

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The objective of this meeting is
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for us to come together and look at what we are doing as
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far as technology and education is concerned.
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A few
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years ago we have Fusion Mobile who used to be our good
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partners and currently we are working with Learning Mastermind.
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on foundational learning,
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but EdTech is very important in that process.
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So,
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one week ago,
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the Honorable Minister invited the EdTech team
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to brief her on what
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they have as far as technology and educational,
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I mean,
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foundational learning is concerned.
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So,
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after the presentation and discussion,
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she suggested,
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let us meet with Fission Mobile.
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And they tell us what they have for the ministry and how can we leverage on
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what is already there to make sure that we
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don't reinvent the wheel again,
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but we pick it up from where they stopped.
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I mean,
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there was this issue that it's not easy to access some
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of the work done by Fish on Mobile.
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But then she said no.
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Fish on Mobile told her that they are ready to
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share whatever they have or hand over whatever they have to Mopsi.
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That is why,
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as he said, that is the case that let's come together,
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listen to each other and know where
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do we pick it up from.
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Because both Fisher
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Mobile and LM are partners
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with Moxie.
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At the end of the day,
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it's Moxie that needs to continue because all of them are partners.
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They can stop the partners,
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but Moxie continues as an institution.
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And whatever they have developed,
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if it is not owned by Moxie...
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is of no use to us as a ministry because we will
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not be able to use it in their absence or access it.
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So this is why he said,
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let us sit together and make sure what is available and how
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do we leverage on that to continue building or working,
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moving forward as far as technology education is concerned.
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This is the opposite of the meeting.
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Just invited
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the technical people,
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I'm a layman as far as English,
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me and BBC.
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So, I wouldn't be able to understand this,
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but we asked our technical team to understand
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the Noven Kleto,
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who understand the language,
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the IT,
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to be present so that they can guide us.
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Like I said, at the end of the day,
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we want to make sure that Mani,
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can you close this door,
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please? Whatever we have is something that is user
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-friendly, but it's sustainable by the business.
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So,
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that's why we have the image team,
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some people from the state.
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Good morning.
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Thank you
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all for having this meeting.
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Doctor,
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are you taking the minutes?
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Yes,
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yes.
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how the meeting will be about.
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So, in fact,
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we are of the impression that we
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are just coming to observe.
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The information we got was that Lennon
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Mastermind was brought up.
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So, and I made,
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we made a quote to inquire about
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how the program will be.
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It's a surprise
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that we have been asked to come for a presentation.
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So, I will,
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we are...
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We would like to ask that then come in and come in and already have
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an agenda.
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Thank you.
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Thank
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you very much for
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your excuse and whatever.
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But I think you have long been working with Moxie.
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We're not expecting
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any commitment that is
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going to indicate you.
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But as we are ordinary
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listeners.
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We want just to understand what is your
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relationship with you,
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see what project you are working on,
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what is the state of that project.
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So that at least anybody
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listening can say,
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okay, this is it.
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Personally,
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when I used to work with UNICEF,
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I was working with you indirectly.
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When we had the island for a scripted
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lesson and all of those things,
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I know that was happening.
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At some point that was expected to be a transfer out or something
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like that.
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Then we get into the new phase again.
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So I think those are some of the things that the
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ministry would want to get.
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Not anything in terms of big
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implications or things like that.
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But these are people who...
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Along the corridors,
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there will be a island in Gambia.
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Along the corridors,
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there will be a piece of Mumbai.
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So I think,
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yes,
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it's also unfair to expect
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big,
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big presentation in detail from you.
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But it's also fair that we get an overview of what...
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Yes, just to share where you are,
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what platform are you using,
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how was it developed,
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how can we liberate on that.
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Because I started by saying we don't want to reinvent the wheel.
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We have worked with you over time.
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We have got a lot of money.
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So we don't want to redo what you have already done.
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How can we stand on your platform
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and build it further to ensure that we are able to incorporate new
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areas?
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Okay,
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for us,
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we have moved two steps.
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Can we pick it from there to move to the third step?
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Or do we still have to come back to zero again?
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That's what we don't want to happen.
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Like Mr.
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Janna said, you know,
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we have Ireland,
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Gambia, which was one some time ago.
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Many people don't know much about it.
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How far you have gone with the technology.
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How user -friendly is the technology as far as education is
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concerned.
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How do children access it?
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The accessibility.
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What are the protocols and the like?
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Because I...
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You know, I started to work with you,
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then I was director of science and technology until I was promoted.
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If you ask me today,
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I don't know much about it any longer.
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You have been coming to my office over and over.
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You understand?
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What we want is give us an overview of
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what you have done,
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where you are,
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and where can we either pick it up or fish in what
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Learning Mastermind also is talking about applying to work.
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Thank you very much DPS and our previous speakers.
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We are very much pleased to honor this invitation as it
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was a place for us to have a meeting with the Honourable
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Minister and then,
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like we have said,
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Honourable Minister to be able to come forward to the meeting.
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Actually,
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we had made presentation to our year some couple of months ago as
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of the status quo of Fusion Mobile and so far how we
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have gone.
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And our agreement was we needed
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to understand the entire ecosystem of MOPSI by doing a
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need assessment analysis to understand what are exactly the
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current needs and viabilities for MOPSI.
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in order for System Mobile to be able to pick up a new assignment to execute
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it in a more effective manner.
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This was what was our agreement.
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Because if we,
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the assignment that we last conducted or executed a little while ago,
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and so many things have transpired under the ministry,
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which we do not know,
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or we don't have,
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we don't want to preempt anything that we know when exactly we don't
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know what is on the desk.
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We propose that,
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okay, we can sign up a new assignment provided
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that we do a need assessment analysis and understand.
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what exists as an ecosystem for the ministry,
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what and what and what will be the immediate priorities
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for the ministry,
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they will be able to anchor and specify within our framework,
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this is what we can be able to offer.
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As we know already,
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we have already,
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all of us understood the island of Gambia belongs to the ministry,
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but it appears on two versions,
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the online and the offline version.
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So if regarding the online version,
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It's a matter of integrating,
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the system is fully fledged there.
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It's one of integrating what the need assessment results will give us,
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so that it becomes an inbuilt system and enhancing what is
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there. So if it's an offline version,
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which is our product,
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we'll also synergize and see how it could be also propelled
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from where we start.
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This is what was our last agreement.
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So we were made to understand that learning masterminds
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are doing some sort of work.
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and that will be required to be deployed into the island damage,
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which is owned by the ministry.
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This is what we are expecting.
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After their assignment is completed and they are ready for deployment,
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we will see what they have as a product,
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and then we look at how we could diagnose it and get it fit into the system.
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This was what our expectation was all about.
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So,
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unless you want to hear from us
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again as of...
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What are some of the features that the island Gambia has and what and what
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and what?
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Those ones we can still go over and explain them to you.
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And from there,
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what other necessary questions that may come,
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we can try to respond to them.
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But so far,
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I think the state people,
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the minister and the PS,
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we are able to put them into the entire system.
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everything in the island of Arabia,
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and all the protocols that we are also done,
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all the assignments that we have done for the ministry,
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and we participated in all of it.
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And we are told that,
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okay, we are going to be engaged with an assignment.
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So that's what we are looking for.
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We say, okay, in order for us to do any assignment for the ministry effectively,
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it should be very prudent for us to do a need assessment analysis.
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so that we know exactly what the ministry requires for needs,
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then we are able to execute this task.
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That's why we start with the government ministry,
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unless you want to achieve anything.
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In the first place,
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in some way,
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maybe understand the things we are standing on.
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Yeah,
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you know, I was not in the meeting.
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I didn't know much about it,
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but I can only say what I was asked.
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Can you sit up straight?
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Can you sit up straight?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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Yes,
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it is true that we had a meeting.
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I will still go back to my
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previous assertion
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So I think
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here
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the main point of contention here is
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is Island Gambia belongs to MOPSI.
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That was the big one for the past four
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to five minutes.
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But with the meeting with the minister,
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they told us that the Island Gambia belongs to MOPSI.
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That was the biggest information that we had from
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them. Then I said to myself,
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if that Island Gambia belongs to MOPSI,
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then the best that we should do now,
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since MOPSI owns a platform,
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since MOPSI owns a platform,
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called MOPSI Hub.
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So as far as MOPSI is concerned,
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this particular platform is hosted on ministry
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school infrastructure with administrative access.
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Ministry can manage the data.
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They have the security control over the platform.
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Over the island Gambia,
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as it was.
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Because one,
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we don't own the infrastructure.
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For the past four years,
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as far as the platform is concerned,
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we don't own it.
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And we don't have the access,
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administrative access,
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even to administer or to accept
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people to join the platform.
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Sometimes it takes days,
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two days,
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before we finally accept people.
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So that ride was not provided with this.
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So that was why,
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previous,
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when Learning Mastermind came,
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science and technology worked hard and close with them to see
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that how best that we can support the foundation learning.
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So the first question was,
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we don't think we can,
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we have to maybe make assessment.
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so the learning mastermind joined with us to do the assessment of the platform
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the existing platform because we don't want to reinvent the wheel so we said now let's
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make a good assessment of the platform to see whether the platform can support the foundational
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learning before we start any other thing because they also have their own capabilities
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but to to avoid reinventing the wheel they said we have to do
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the assessment so that assessment was done and
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they found out that our ministry don't own
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a platform that we are investing on.
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Ministry,
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we cannot.
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If I say we,
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it's a ministry.
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We cannot go to the platform and administer
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somebody.
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We cannot go to the platform and add something on the platform.
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So these are some of the challenge,
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worrying challenge.
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They say it's going to be very difficult for us to
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add value to the existing platform as far as foundation is concerned.
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So better off.
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There are two options.
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One,
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to come up with a new structure,
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infrastructure,
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or to improve existing platform
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with memorandum of understanding,
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so that everybody can see themselves in the platform.
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That was the first assignment we did.
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So we answered that the existing platform was,
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we said, okay,
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now let's go for the maintaining the existing platform,
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then we go for the redesigning of the MOU.
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But again,
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the server,
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don't own by the industry.
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So we said, now,
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let's make it this way.
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Since science and technology started this rise,
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so we can request for the server,
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cloud -based server as the first entry point.
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Once we have that one,
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then whatever that we have,
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we can migrate it.
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We can integrate it to the platform.
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That was the idea.
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Until today,
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I'm deputy permanent secretary.
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Ministry own now a
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cloud -based server.
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and administering on the MOPSI,
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where we have the administrative access,
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we have the security control,
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and we have the capability.
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I'm saying capability in terms of the human
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resources, in terms of the skill.
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So what we are looking for now,
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as far as MOPSI is concerned,
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two. One,
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retaining for those capabilities that we have to enhance their capabilities.
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And two,
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we remove...
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We migrate the island,
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Gambia, to the existing,
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to the platform that we have,
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because the platform that we have,
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the cloud -based server that we have,
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can accommodate,
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can accommodate a lot,
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because it does that capacity to accommodate other platform,
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as we did it through other directory.
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Right now,
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Deputy Power of the existing platform,
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all the directory,
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they have the dashboard on the platform,
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and they can all access and,
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you know, do their things using the platform.
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So the administrative control of that one lies in
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the ICT planning people.
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So that's where we are now as far as the MOPSI
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is concerned.
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So these are two options on the table to build the capacity of
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the existing skills that we have at the MOPSI in terms
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of training to enhance their training so that they can manage and do
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a lot of things with the cloud -based service.
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Two, the other option here is,
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since Island Gambia belongs to MOPSI,
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we said,
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then Island Gambia,
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the content of that Island Gambia,
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if we cannot move to Island Gambia to be posted on the new platform that
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we have, then we can move the content from the Island Gambia to
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the platform that MOPSI owns.
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We have the access light,
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we have the security control,
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and we have the data management control.
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So all those things are in our hands.
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the former platform.
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When we don't have administrative access,
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we are only just at mercy.
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So that is the team's formation that we have as
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MOPSI, to represent MOPSI.
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And it will also talk about the sustainability,
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because there...
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is the moxie people that are controlling this is the most moxie moxie people that are
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doing all what is necessary on the platform thank you okay
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thank you very much i mean doctor
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you you heard about what abu says this
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is exactly what we were made to understand
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and that was why she said no
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we need to sit and talk about this
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Because in her deliberation,
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if I am quoting her right,
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she said, she was told Ayala Gambia belongs to
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the ministry,
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which I said,
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no. My understanding is fish and mobile is
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because of it.
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But then she said she was promised that it's a
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mob city that owns it and it can be handed over to mob city.
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How do we do the process?
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As she was explaining,
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are we...
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Taking it entirely,
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housing on our cloud,
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like I said,
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excuse me for my ignorance,
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we are BBC.
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Or are we going to take
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the content there and place it on our system?
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So these are some easy switches.
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And that was the reason we said we need to get technical people,
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because if I should meet with you,
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I wouldn't know what is cloud,
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what is this.
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Me for cloud when it is raining,
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that's what I know.
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If it is not raining,
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I don't see cloud.
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Yes, please.
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Doctor,
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thank you very much.
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I must say most
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of the information that was just
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provided is new to us.
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Sorry,
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what do you mean by new straws?
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What I said,
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the Honorable Minister said?
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No, no, no.
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In terms of the platform,
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the narration he gave on the platform.
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About our own...
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brought to your own and that of Island Valley.
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Future Mobile did not work,
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did not just start working with MOPSI on their own.
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We are not implementing outside
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the framework of MOPSI.
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Every of our activity was contractual.
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There are documentations from beginning to
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now. Up until we
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are invited.
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We weren't letting masterminds came.
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And when they came,
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just,
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it's important I make this point here.
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Exactly the way we were invited in this meeting.
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We were invited without telling us what the meeting was about.
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That's exactly the way they invited us before.
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We came,
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we made presentations,
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just because we didn't even know the scope of what they
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needed. Even right now,
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up -country now,
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as a team,
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we don't even know exactly.
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What they intend to achieve,
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the scope of their assignment,
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what they want.
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From the one they've been making narratives,
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they've been making narratives that Alan Gamber belongs
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to Fischer -Mobile.
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By documentations
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which we provided to the ministry,
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the last time we met with the underweight minister.
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from the first engagement we had to the last engagement we
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had, and all the activities in between,
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those documents were provided.
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So it is...
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Permit me to say that we
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don't find it correct to say that Ireland

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