Anil Mic B
Jun 19, 2026 18:14
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anneal right yes testing one
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two three testing one two three testing
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one two three testing one two three can
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we turn this up a little what do you mean turn it up the volume
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so it captures more volume no it's fixed okay link
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is invalid it's in what the meeting
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link is invalid that's what it says testing
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Where did you go,
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huh? Yeah, yeah.
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Just testing.
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Will you just look at this and
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make sure it's still working?
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Oh, yeah,
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yeah. I see that you have to look at her.
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This...
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Hi, Anil.
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Anil.
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That's
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okay. This is technology at its best.
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You're driving and you're able to still do business,
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right?
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That's
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what I meant.
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That's
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all right.
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No rush.
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So,
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the...
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What I would like to do is I'm going to interview you,
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and my style of interview is just two friends talking,
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nothing more.
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And I'm only going to share what
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you share with me to Ed and to Jerry,
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no one else.
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And then I'm going to write it up and I'm going to send it to you to give to your children.
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But I will never show it to anyone
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else.
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That'll be up to you if you want to do that.
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Okay?
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Sounds good.
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So,
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all the books that I've written,
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I've always,
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as I told you when we met,
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I was always looking for the
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special things that were important to the person telling
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the story,
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meaning you.
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I call them gems,
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but they're the kind of things that you normally don't share.
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Maybe you share it with your wife,
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your family,
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your children,
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but nobody else.
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All what you share is only going to be
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able to explain to Ed a little bit more
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who you are so that when you come together for the film,
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it's going to be like two old friends talking.
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We were going to bring to you today,
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Ed has a copy of his interview,
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but we're going to email it to Kevin.
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He'll give it to you,
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and then we'll drop by,
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or the next time we see you,
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we'll drop by a written copy,
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and you can use that however you wish.
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okay okay all right so
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let me just by start by
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saying uh okay
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please let me give me
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a favor and share a little bit
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about your childhood in other words where did you
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grow up what did you do who was your best friend
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Okay,
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that's
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a good start.
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I've never been asked that word,
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but I appreciate that getting these thoughts out of my mind.
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Yeah,
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so I was born in India.
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There's a state called Gujarat and a city called Paroda.
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uh it's a good uh it's uh it's it's a uh west west
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of india is there is located and uh i grew
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up uh for 16 years of my life i was in before i moved to
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this country so i did the uh of course schooling
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uh up to high school graduate and
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i came here and oh my goodness it's
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a good good thing my childhood's been fun uh growing up with
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uh eight siblings
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Six sisters and two brothers.
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It's always been very full
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of energy,
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you would say,
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that there were a dull moment growing up with all these
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sisters and brothers in the house.
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You know,
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my mom was great.
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Actually,
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my mom was the inspiration for me.
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How she grew,
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met, how she took care of all the eight kids with little and no income,
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basically.
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Wow.
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Yeah, my dad one time was a very successful contractor and
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we went from there to completely broke.
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And she ran an
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entire family complex my dad had built with
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the rental income.
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I found her to
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be very smart and successful business person I can think of
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than how she managed.
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Yeah,
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that's great.
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Go ahead.
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I didn't mean to interrupt,
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but I thought that's a great story.
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That's a gem,
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you know?
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Yeah, I know it's a
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success, but my dad was really
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successful where he was owning
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a car in India in those days.
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He's like, you've got to be a top -notch successful individual that he went
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from owning a car to riding a bicycle.
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I've seen all those things,
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business went down because he got cheated by his partners and people and all
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these things. I think to me since that he basically went into
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a mode that he never got out of
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it and just got up and worked.
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Anyhow,
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so the childhood was fine.
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I mean, I'm going to the high
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school and I'm making sure that we all get the educations.
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Did you live in the country or the city?
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Very robust in the technology point of view and creating the
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business point of view.
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So that's a city where everybody wants to be a business
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person.
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Oh, yeah.
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When you were going to school,
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did you learn English or
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did you have two languages?
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Yeah,
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no. We were going to school in the native language.
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It's called Vajrati there.
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Okay.
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Yes.
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We didn't start learning how to read and write English until
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we got into the high school area.
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Yeah.
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Where we learned how to write ABC and all the stuff.
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But speaking English was not there
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at all. So I learned how to speak English after
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moving to this country.
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Well,
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that's terrific because you speak really good English.
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Yeah.
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So when you're...
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When you're going to high school or school,
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was it hard or was it easy?
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Because,
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for instance, for me,
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school was always hard.
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Yeah,
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for me,
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it was pretty hard.
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So
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was I.
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So was I.
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Yeah, it was always difficult,
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yeah.
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So it was just always passing through.
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And most of the years,
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I probably passed to the minimum required.
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The study was not paying for
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me somehow,
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but I always...
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Got through it.
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I knew that studying education is important.
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So I stuck to it.
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And mom did the sticking stick in her hand
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all of a sudden make sure that I go to school.
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Oh, yeah.
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We just go through that.
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But yeah, so, you know,
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I always found myself to be not a bright student.
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But there's someone that always wanted to be successful
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and do something.
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So I always push the hardest you can.
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Would you say that you always wanted to do something good for other
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people as well?
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Yes
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That's
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exactly
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my same philosophy so when
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When you're going through school,
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did you play sports or did you study?
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No,
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I wanted to study.
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Played with
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neighbors.
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Sports was very near.
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A lot of cricket.
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Played soccer.
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Wow.
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And badminton.
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Stuff like that.
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Those are the sports that I used to play a lot.
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And marbles.
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Yes,
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yes, I remember.
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That agates.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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right exactly exactly as
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you were as you were going through school did
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where you were playing soccer,
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in your mind,
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did you have an idea of where you wanted to
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go in life at that time?
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I didn't know where
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I wanted to go,
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but I was always fearful about not
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successful because of my lack of education,
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ability,
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study,
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because I knew that I was not number one in the class.
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But I always wanted to do something good for
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myself.
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So that was always a fear.
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Outside the education,
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I always did everything beyond an extra
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step to be good at either sports or anything else.
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I was always the best sports player.
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Okay.
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So when your dad had his problems,
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am I correct,
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your mom sort of took over?
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Yeah.
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And so then...
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She nurtured the family along.
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And what was the thing,
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do you remember,
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when your mother said,
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we're going to America?
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Sure.
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Wow.
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here uh civil engineering then he stayed
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here and never went back so he settled down here so after uh
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back in 80s uh he filed
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for my dad 70s 576 file for
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my dad to come to usa and my my dad didn't
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want to be here so he just brought my older brother in 78 came
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here dropped him back here and then went back home
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And so after that,
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he filed for me and my sisters and
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the family to be back here.
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So that's how we ended up coming to USA.
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I came in August of 81 and my sisters came in 84.
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Did your mother come with you?
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Mother came in 84.
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Was that the first time you ever
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flew in an airplane?
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Oh yeah,
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first time I ever saw her.
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That was exciting,
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right?
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It was very exciting.
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It was...
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Scary?
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It was very scary.
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I was nervous.
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Yes.
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Of excitement and seeing that I'm going to be in the plane.
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Yes.
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And just being at the airport itself because I never entered
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the airport in my life.
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Really?
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Wow, that's great.
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Yeah,
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the first time when you were getting the plane to get here.
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So,
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how long did it take?
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12 hours to come?
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No,
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actually it took 30 -some hours.
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Wow.
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We have a hold in,
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I believe,
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in Hong Kong.
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And then there was a change over the flight
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and came down to here.
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So it was total journey time was over 30 hours.
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So when you,
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did you fly into San Francisco?
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I flew into San Francisco,
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yes.
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So did you have good
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feelings, bad feelings,
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or medium families when you left India?
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And then when you saw...
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San Francisco for the first time out of the window.
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What did you think?
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I was mesmerized
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by the lights.
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When I got in the car and
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the speed, it was all the 55 miles an hour driving that's fast
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and things was very fascinating.
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Of course,
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getting with the car was a novelty for us to get on there in
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a taxi.
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So my brother picked me up,
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of course.
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and uh just driving through that i can remember i'll just say driving on three
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we're looking at all this billboards and and the speed and the lights
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as a wow is is this uh something like
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this that we've never seen where you are so it was pretty mesmerizing to
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be in the road for you with the speed and with the things that i
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saw right do you
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Were you sad about leaving India or not?
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No.
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No.
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Were you excited about coming to America?
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I was very excited to come to America because I knew there's nothing
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I could do in India with the Bible.
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Okay.
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So I said I would start a new life here.
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So did you and the family move in with your uncle or did your mom
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get a place?
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No, it's actually my uncle owned a little motel,
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like 10 units motel,
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you know, in those days,
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small town motel.
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So my brother was managing for my uncle,
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so I moved in with my brother.
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And,
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you know,
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each motel had their kind of apartments in it.
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Yes, yes.
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So that's where your office and your living room and kitchen small.
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I think it was about,
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I would probably say about 400 square feet total.
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Sure.
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That's where we moved in with him.
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Do you remember the name of the motel?
23:50
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Yeah,
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it was Fifth Avenue Motel.
23:52
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Great name.
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Fifth Avenue Motel.
23:56
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It was on Fifth Avenue.
23:57
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Oh, yeah.
23:58
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And it was in Redwood City is where I moved in.
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And so I kind of worked through my
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brother renting rooms at night and everything else.
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I learned that because he was managing.
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He had a full -time job as a mechanical designer.
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When you arrived in
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San Francisco,
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did you speak any English at all?
24:45
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Speaker 1 (Anil Mic B)
No.
24:47
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Wow.
24:47
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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so i could read and i could know the
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stuff fundamentals but speaking english was not the uh something
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i was able to do but yeah so it was it was tough who
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taught you uh the school and that's what
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uh everything happened because i of course i went to yeah
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i'm supposed
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to be uh what they have
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they put me in junior uh but after six months they
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moved me to senior because a lot of other men it was
25:35
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very easy here somehow wow then what we were studying in india
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So algebra,
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physics,
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everything.
25:43
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I grasped that theory.
25:46
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To be honest with you,
25:48
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those things that I was learning in 11th grade,
25:51
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we learned that in 7th grade,
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6th, 7th grade.
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Wow.
25:54
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So the subject was very easy.
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English was the only problem I was having.
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So they moved me to a senior,
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a six -month introvert,
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because I was just doing great in these things,
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so they moved me up.
26:08
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But learning English through their friends and being in the school and
26:12
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just kind of learning,
26:14
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watching TV.
26:15
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Yeah.
26:17
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I don't know if you remember this show called Benny Hill.
26:19
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Speaker 2 (Anil Mic B)
Yeah.
26:20
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It was a British comedian show.
26:23
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It used to come in 11 o 'clock.
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And that one is all action.
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There was hardly any dialogue.
26:27
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Speaker 2 (Anil Mic B)
Huh.
26:30
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That was one of my favorite shows.
26:31
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And you can learn a lot about without
26:36
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speaking, how you can get your point across.
26:40
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Yeah.
26:40
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When you came here and you moved in to the
26:44
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hotel, did you meet American
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friends or did you have friends from India that you
26:53
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hung around with?
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for at least a few,
27:00
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six, seven months.
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Then when I was in school,
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I started making friends.
27:03
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Oh, good.
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And then,
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you know,
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working hard hours here and there,
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jobs,
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part -time jobs in coffee shop and everything else.
27:13
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I met three people there.
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So that's how I learned as a kid.
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And educated,
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just focusing more.
27:20
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Somehow after I came here,
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I became more focused.
27:23
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Speaker 2 (Anil Mic B)
Oh,
27:23
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yeah. Probably because you were excited.
27:27
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I was excited and knowing that this is an opportunity.
27:40
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So when you went to school,
27:42
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did you have a best friend that you hung out with or did
27:46
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you do you still have that friend today?
28:32
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He would come to the class and translate some of the things that he wanted to
28:36
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do. Was that a cousin?
28:38
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He's a friend.
28:40
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I still have a cousin.
28:41
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What was his name?
28:44
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Speaker 1 (Anil Mic B)
His name is Sanjeev.
28:46
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Sanjeev.
28:47
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Okay.
28:47
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Speaker 1 (Anil Mic B)
Sanjeev.
28:48
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So,
28:50
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when you had just mentioned,
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and I'm asking the question,
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do you got a part -time job at a coffee shop?
28:59
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Speaker 1 (Anil Mic B)
Yeah.
29:00
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I used to work...
29:02
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Speaker 2 (Anil Mic B)
Was that your first job?
29:03
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Okay.
29:09
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Close to home?
29:10
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Speaker 1 (Anil Mic B)
Okay.
29:20
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I used to ride a bike at least four or five miles every day.
29:23
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Speaker 1 (Anil Mic B)
Really?
29:23
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Speaker 2 (Anil Mic B)
Oh,
29:24
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today or before?
29:26
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Speaker 1 (Anil Mic B)
I see.
29:34
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Speaker 2 (Anil Mic B)
Okay.
29:35
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So you don't ride a bike today?
29:37
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Speaker 2 (Anil Mic B)
No,
29:39
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Speaker 1 (Anil Mic B)
I ride a bike,
29:40
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but it's stationary.
29:40
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Speaker 2 (Anil Mic B)
What was the name of that little
29:44
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coffee shop?
29:45
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Do you remember?
29:46
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Speaker 1 (Anil Mic B)
Oh my God.
29:48
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Speaker 1 (Anil Mic B)
That's
29:52
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okay.
29:52
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Speaker 2 (Anil Mic B)
So how long after that first job
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Speaker 2 (Anil Mic B)
did you move up in the world?
30:00
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Speaker 2 (Anil Mic B)
That's the right word.
30:01
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And got a job at Jack in the Box.
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Speaker 1 (Anil Mic B)
Two
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blocks away.
30:11
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Because
30:17
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I thought I had some time prior to Saturday.
30:20
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I'm still going to school.
30:22
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Yeah.
30:23
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And by the time I went to San
30:27
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Mateo,
30:28
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I went to apply for a job at Jack in the Box.
30:31
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And that's when I went to 300 to get a job making tacos.
30:34
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Speaker 3 (Anil Mic B)
Really?
30:36
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Speaker 2 (Anil Mic B)
That was the first time you started making tacos?
30:38
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Speaker 2 (Anil Mic B)
Yes,
30:40
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Speaker 1 (Anil Mic B)
in 80.
30:41
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Speaker 1 (Anil Mic B)
before beginning of any point i got a job uh
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friday
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saturday night working eight o 'clock at nine to four in the morning but that's
30:55
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Speaker 1 (Anil Mic B)
my routine friday saturday working jack -in -the -box eight to four get up at
30:59
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eight o 'clock to go to a coffee shop on saturday and sunday and
31:04
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eight to three and eight to seven i used to go work at this
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Speaker 1 (Anil Mic B)
video rental place that my brother's friend owned
31:21
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Speaker 3 (Anil Mic B)
Wow.
31:21
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Speaker 2 (Anil Mic B)
But did you,
31:24
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Speaker 2 (Anil Mic B)
when you went to Jack in the Box,
31:26
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Speaker 2 (Anil Mic B)
did you expect to get a job or were you surprised
31:31
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when they offered you the job?
31:32
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Speaker 3 (Anil Mic B)
Well,
31:33
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Speaker 1 (Anil Mic B)
that
31:40
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helps.
31:43
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Speaker 1 (Anil Mic B)
He recommended,
31:43
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hey, you can recommend to go and apply
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for Jack in the Box.
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