2026-05-18 Thomas

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• Speaker 2 0:09
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• Speaker 4 56:34

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   Kabanata 1: better so i'm really happy to have this conversation um do you want me to introduce my business who i am or uh uh let me then brief because i was just a little bit briefed that uh you you created an app uh for healthcare actually for financial institutions that can have a look at the prices at which the use medical equipment might be liquidated Or I catch it a little bit in the wrong way? 295s · Speaker 1

   better so i'm really happy to have this conversation um do you want me to introduce my business who i am or uh uh let me then brief because i was just a little bit briefed that uh you you created an app uh for healthcare actually for financ…

2. 5:00

   Kabanata 2: as a French is like, I would say five of the 10 biggest banks in Europe are French. 113s · Speaker 1

   as a French is like, I would say five of the 10 biggest banks in Europe are French. And it is maybe the reason why the French economy is still on his feet because otherwise the industry is really going down. But with BNP Paribas, with Credi…

3. 6:53

   Kabanata 3: No. But I met him as well in Düsseldorf. 200s · Speaker 2

   No. But I met him as well in Düsseldorf. Yes. Yes. And I mean, he's got a high opinion on himself, of course. So he's the most clever. He's really clever. He knows a lot of things about the market. And each time you have a discussion with h…

4. 10:13

   Kabanata 4: It could be, I would like me to protect my clients. 67s · Speaker 3

   It could be, I would like me to protect my clients. And I would like, I find that it is really normal that I don't want to buy the data. because it will be a huge cost for me only, and I'm taking all the risks. But there is also the investm…

5. 11:20

   Kabanata 5: I think internet interrupted for a while. 301s · Speaker 2

   I think internet interrupted for a while. You just froze. Just like 15 seconds. Okay. So I would like to hear your opinion. And is it okay for you? What I think, on one hand, it's a matter about data, etc. I briefed, I had a small meeting w…

6. 16:22

   Kabanata 6: in my opinion, is the best solution for them. 301s · Speaker 1

   in my opinion, is the best solution for them. On the other side, we need to help them to identify their system, to take pictures, because the bank is far from the system. And the hospital is not always willing to take the time to take the p…

7. 21:23

   Kabanata 7: you know, we are from Ukraine, the war started, so just exactly after the COVID. 301s · Speaker 2

   you know, we are from Ukraine, the war started, so just exactly after the COVID. And the idea was to cooperate and partner with leasing companies to have a list of the equipment from them that they believe. or a plan that will stuck on thei…

8. 26:25

   Kabanata 8: And so the beauty of that is like most of the time you don't even need to service, to spend money on service. 302s · Speaker 1

   And so the beauty of that is like most of the time you don't even need to service, to spend money on service. And if you touch the system, you take risk because, okay, you get the money, the bank has got the money, and then your service com…

9. 31:28

   Kabanata 9: API just to grab the data and to structure it. 264s · Speaker 2

   API just to grab the data and to structure it. Yes, you're right. We could find a solution. We could find a solution. And, of course, on that CRM, inside the hospitals, you have all the information. But not the pictures. But you have all th…

10. 35:53

    Kabanata 10: PET CT. You need to have multiple buyers and you need to understand what you are selling. 300s · Speaker 3

    PET CT. You need to have multiple buyers and you need to understand what you are selling. And most of the time, as you said, it is the information that makes the price. If you sell the good information to the buyer, they will give you immed…

11. 40:53

    Kabanata 11: but really manageable now. 117s · Speaker 1

    but really manageable now. And I'm working on this for three years now, only on this system. And I think I have found the best companies around me that are able to create that based on AI. you will understand we need to work with AI that ar…

12. 42:50

    Kabanata 12: annual recurring revenue. 303s · Speaker 2

    annual recurring revenue. Yeah, annual recurring revenue. And so the information part of this service, it is ARR, as you said, and then you have the transaction on Bmedis. But I think there is really something clever to build. Thomas, then …

13. 47:54

    Kabanata 13: Yes. Yes. 300s · Speaker 2

    Yes. Yes. And you could come to France to be treated. You will be in a really better situation. Nowadays, people from the UK are just traveling to Poland for health. Yes. A lot. Health tourism to Poland, to Turkey, even to Turkey, to be hon…

14. 52:54

    Kabanata 14: this is the only thing they would ask from you. 94s · Speaker 1

    this is the only thing they would ask from you. Because you are not providing a service, you are providing them with only data. This is the only thing. If on the contrary, with BNP, we would like to provide them with a service, then there w…

15. 54:29

    Kabanata 15: We also have actually. 125s · Speaker 2

    We also have actually... You met with Andriy, right? From our company? Yes. Did I mention you that besides biomedics in our group of companies, we also have a medical center and a medical equipment distribution company? I know that from you…

16. 56:34

    Kabanata 16: them with. 103s · Speaker 4

    them with. It is on our side to say, okay, let's say we will give you like 1 ,000, 10 ,000, the equivalent of one announcement. You know what I mean? 10 000 uh example or 1 000 i don't know what you are capable of providing but we we will t…

17. 58:17

    Kabanata 17: Are we starting with one particular category of the medical equipment? 303s · Speaker 3

    Are we starting with one particular category of the medical equipment? If you can say, like imaging, of course they want to start with scanners, MRIs, but you don't have a lot of prices on this system. In my opinion, imagine ultrasound, end…

18. 1:03:21

    Kabanata 18: to cooperate in this? 301s · Speaker 1

    to cooperate in this? No, no, they are willing to cooperate, but I'm not confident because really my choice goes to Bemidz and because of Trump. because of their behavior, because they are American. If you ask a bank, a French bank today to…

19. 1:08:23

    Kabanata 19: I'm always. 88s · Speaker 2

    I'm always... I like to see people in the flesh and to shake hands and then after we can call each other again. But this is something important. Whatever you can learn in Paris or I can come visit you, just tell me. And on the other side, i…

20. 1:09:56

    Kabanata 20: I get your idea, Thomas. 84s · Speaker 1

    I get your idea, Thomas. Before going further, I would like to discuss it with our CEO founder and probably the second major founder will join us in discussing this issue. And I will try to make it this week before a holiday and we'll come …

21. 1:11:20

    Kabanata 21: I'm sure you will change your mind, but if you want, I can keep 100 % of the earnings of information and I give you 100 % of the earnings of reselling. 300s · Speaker 2

    I'm sure you will change your mind, but if you want, I can keep 100 % of the earnings of information and I give you 100 % of the earnings of reselling. I think you cannot, for example, one little subsidiary of Credit Agricole is spending 40…

22. 1:16:20

    Kabanata 22: And once we have a green light, there might be one of the following stages. 155s · Speaker 1

    And once we have a green light, there might be one of the following stages. discussing some frame and then probably as I see it visiting going to Paris. two of us, three of us, two of them, whatever the mix up might be, just to meet with yo…