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May 15, 2026 00:47 · 11:03 · English · Whisper Turbo · 2 Звуци

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Let's go.

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Yes.

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I just can't go back to talk about this

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relationship between having an aesthetic idea and

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related to the motive.

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When I saw the girls,

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sure,

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I saw also,

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you know, this play of the trunk of

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the trees, the vertical,

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and in the contrast with the...

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moving you know and then analyze it

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immediately what is what I'm attracted to and how can

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I find the best possible way of filming it with every

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motive and this is not having a defined

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aesthetic approach before and for everything

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as some artists do.

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But I'm free to,

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and this is my pleasure also,

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to find how to express what I really

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think...

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It's a kind of distance and proximity.

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It's a kind of equation of that.

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Yeah, but I'm connected with

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what I'm filming.

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I'm not using it.

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yes i'm getting into touch myself yeah yeah that that

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that this that is it this is in your films it's like the kind of just sounds

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yeah yeah kind of yeah the sounds i think is playful and yeah

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yeah and you know and i think um therefore

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also that i decided not

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to make corrections you know not to make classical film

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montage

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to do it afterwards,

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to create the film afterwards.

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S… Speaker 1 (helga2 (1))

Yes.

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I think my approach is

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what I really love to do.

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Yes.

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And nothing could stop me from doing it.

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You know,

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others make perfect films.

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Yes, yes, no,

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I absolutely get it.

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Yes, yes.

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Do the montage.

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You want to,

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you want to,

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you want to,

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maybe we can think a kind of...

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What you need to preserve is the document of the experience,

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of the mediation,

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of the...

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Yeah,

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all this together.

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All this together.

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That's it.

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That's the document.

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And I have the feeling that one feels that.

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Yes,

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yes.

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The audience,

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you know, the viewers.

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So yesterday,

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for example, do you remember the young woman who talked

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to her

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About how she experienced my films?

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Yes.

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It was amazing.

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Yes.

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I wished she would write it down for me.

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That's because she sensed that,

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you know?

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Yes.

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The last

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thing I was thinking is the concept that you use the

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film in

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situ.

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Cinema in situ.

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You use it somewhere,

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I think, in an interview.

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Cinema in situ would be,

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you know, like,

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I would be located in an interview,

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but maybe it's like a lost old concept.

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Can you say it again?

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Cinema in situ.

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In situ.

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Ah, in situ.

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In situ.

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Yeah. Yes.

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Yeah.

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So,

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anyway, you may understand,

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in the usual cinema spaces like that,

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It is very difficult to get the best

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Super 8 image,

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because the distance is bigger than smaller spaces,

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you know?

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And since it's like that,

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very often it's very difficult to make the installation of

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the projection.

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Therefore,

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I love also places which are not cinema.

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a simple hall or other places who are not meant to

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be a cinema place so and I

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that is what I mean so in this in the cinemas

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I create a cinema in the cinema you know this is one thing but this

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is the necessity for Super 8 yes but then sometimes

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I discovered places

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spaces, which I thought,

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oh, this would be a good place to show Super 8.

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And then I organized that.

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For example,

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my first experience of this kind was also in Frankfurt.

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There was a small,

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wonderful gallery,

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art gallery,

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a private one.

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And it was a former atelier,

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you know, for handcraft.

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It was perfect in the size.

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In the beauty,

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so I ask the gallerist if I could show films

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there.

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And he agreed.

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So it was my choice of the space,

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of a space which has spoken to me and which

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I thought it's better for Super 8 than the official spaces,

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you know.

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And I did it.

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I did open air on an island.

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I did a transformed former...

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place which was not such cinema into a cinema I showed

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in an art library yeah so and and I work with the

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space yes I love it's a kind of expansion of cinema

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also you know it's not like the thing of expanded cinema it's more an expansion

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you know it's a kind of let's let's let's situate cinema in other places

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in other methods in other logics in other

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It is more work,

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you know. For example,

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when it happened first

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that there was one length of the gallery

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space was with wonderful windows,

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small ones,

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but with white wood,

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you know, beautiful.

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But in order to get the dark,

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I didn't hang black fabric.

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I put every single little window.

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I cut out black paper.

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That the space...

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Do you follow me?

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Yes.

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You know, you think this is not...

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The windows were like that.

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A whole wall.

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you know with windows with wooden with wood framed

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a rhythm it has a rhythm to it but in order to

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because if you show film you need dark darkness

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so I put I covered every single little

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part of the window by black curtain cut

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out and so you saw the whole structure but it was

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dark so it was

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I did it.

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The galleries did nothing.

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I bought the paper.

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So I created a cinema.

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Is this what I love to do?

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You love to do that,

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yes. You know,

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if I like the space,

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you know. It is something else than cinema.

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Yes.

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It's very nice.

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It's very like to make the...

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For me,

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it's not a direct questioning of a

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kind of big...

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It's more like actions that expand the idea

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of...

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One idea of cinema.

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One idea of cinema.

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It's to make a plural thing.

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And you know, since the Super 8 was initially for private purpose,

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the people that looked in their living rooms and so on,

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they installed their little cinema at home.

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Now everything is on the...

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screen,

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you know, but they did it and I project

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this out of the private space but also in a more

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intimate form of projection.

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Beautiful.

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I can send you maybe some images of

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those places,

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but this space at the time,

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for a long time I never documented anything.

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I had enough to do with my...

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so i can't say the one i still love this can i

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yes can you send me that and also if you have a photo of you and

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your projection and exhibition you know i i'm

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sorry i have made in 23 i

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have now a really a good book on my work an artist book i

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did it you know but i couldn't bring them it is too heavy i

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had to bring already my

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But if you want and and it would be too expensive to

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ship it But I can if you want to I'll send you

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but you don't use it

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you don't transfer it to others of

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a digital version of the book and there you can find the

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material I can for example use a photo

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of this for the interview yeah yeah yeah okay because

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it's if it's my credit you know you can do so

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I put the credits also yeah but maybe to

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to go with the interview to show some this thing,

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you know, how do you use the space,

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so a kind of projection.

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There are some images of the places where I show you.

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Beautiful, beautiful.

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I send it to you.

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Either I send you the pictures or the whole thing I have.

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I found your web page,

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so I will write you there.

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Is it okay?

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HelgaFander .com The website.

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Website.

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Website.

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I found it.

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Yeah, but there is little there.

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It's already old.

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Okay,

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okay. But it's fine.

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But that mail is okay?

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That mail that is in the website is okay?

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Yeah, sure.

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Yeah, okay.

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I will write you there.

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I will say I'm Ivan from Chile and I write you.

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I write you an email there.

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for this.

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I will write you an

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email in that mail for this we were talking.

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Okay,

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yeah, good.

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I think it's enough.

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Yeah, it's good.

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You want to add something?

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Maybe you want to say something else?

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S… Speaker 2 (helga2 (1))

No, I'm responding to your questions.

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Okay, thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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