Brian 04302026

May 07, 2026 16:33 · 24:44 · English · Whisper Turbo · 2 speakers
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But I'm trying to think if there's
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anything else.
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Yeah,
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I put your name on the pen test one simply that
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we'll be doing.
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And I've got to get with Jackie.
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I've got to get with the other Mark at some point so that we
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can do quarterly pen tests for
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Springbok.
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And that might transfer over to other products
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as well.
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One of the reasons Springbok,
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you know,
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they don't really do DAS scanning because they can't.
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Because Veracode and
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Contrast doesn't scan for Ruby.
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And so they don't have
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anything.
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They're kind of leveraging Hadrian,
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which really isn't a DAS scanner.
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And that's where we come in to kind of validate that for
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them using BIRP.
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Oh,
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that'll be fun.
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Yeah.
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And I still got to get my finish up in the slide deck,
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but I do have,
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I go before the AI committee next month,
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probably in a few weeks,
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I think, for BIRP AI and
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try to get that approved.
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I don't know if I told you,
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but, you know,
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I did pitch it already to Mario.
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They had the pre -type of,
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you know,
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AI committee,
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and I pitched it to him,
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and he loved it.
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Oh,
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good.
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That's good.
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Yeah.
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He was like,
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you know,
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he says, well,
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if Scott doesn't fund it,
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I'll fund it.
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He was pretty happy.
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Well, that's encouraging.
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Yeah,
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yeah.
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Definitely help us out a lot.
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I
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don't think if there's anything else.
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Yeah,
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it was such a busy week when you were gone that
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I honestly thought that you were still off.
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I must have missed that whole week.
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No,
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I was glad to get back.
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I actually had a good day yesterday and put
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together an additional spreadsheet that I
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find is super useful.
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The problem is we get these things in Defender,
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and it's the same thing that we talked
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about forever,
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is who do you contact?
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And all
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of this stuff in Defender is pretty much linked to a subscription ID.
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but it's one of those god -awful numbers,
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long numbers of a GUID,
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a G -U -I -D,
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you know, and it will link to another part.
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And the trick is getting those two things together because
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if you have the GUID and you know where to look,
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you can find the user,
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but it's not in Defender.
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It's someplace else in...
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in tune or whatever,
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you know, it's,
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it's all over the place.
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So I found a way yesterday and I actually helped,
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uh, that meant Colin mentioned,
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uh, this morning on the ticket he was working for,
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cause he couldn't find a user.
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And I found,
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uh, with this new spreadsheet,
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I found it like lickety split.
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I was pretty impressed.
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So it's kind of my new go -to spreadsheet for finding out who owns
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stuff if you have a subscription ID or a principal user
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ID.
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And that's another one of those GUID numbers that's about,
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you know,
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40, 50.
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numbers long.
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And it tells you,
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it says, oh, here,
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the principal user ID is this ID.
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And it's like,
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that doesn't help me.
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I need a person's name.
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So I used,
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actually,
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Gemini to combine all that stuff into a
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short bash grip that will pull all
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that stuff and put it into a CSV file.
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And it's like,
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it's super helpful.
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I found
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Khaled's found him the subscription owner super
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quick. Now, there's probably ways to do this that I don't,
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that Ryan could know or I don't,
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but I don't know about,
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but I found a kind of,
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kind of easy way to find the information for me anyway.
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So I just added it as another CSV file into that
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little quick search app that I made.
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So it worked good so far.
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Oh, okay.
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So did you have to rebuild the app to be able to
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use that file?
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No,
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because the app just drags.
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It asks you what files you want to use.
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And then so you pull it in,
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and it uses this logic to beat it up.
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And then you just search for it.
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So I just put in.
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one of those god -awful long GUID IDs and it popped
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back the Andrew Whitlock was the user was the owner
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of that subscription
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Give him his name and his email address.
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It's like, boy,
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that's helpful.
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If nothing else,
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because if he's not the right person,
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that's what I told Khaled this morning,
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is that if Andrew's not the right
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person, he's a subscription owner.
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So you just tell him he needs to find out.
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Because it's in his camp,
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you know.
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So it's at least some place to start,
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which we didn't have before.
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Right.
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And I'm
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just thinking,
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you know,
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as you're talking,
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it's just like,
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you know, the question came up today about,
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you know,
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is this, how can you have access to an application,
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right?
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And we're all kind of building our own little thing.
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It almost be nice if we could just deploy a tool set
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somewhere that everybody has access to.
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Yeah, it would.
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And use it.
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Because I know some of the stuff that we do is,
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and if we were to host it,
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then we have to create all these API connections.
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And that's just a lot of work in the behind the scenes and doing.
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But if we just had a tool set that
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we could say, hey,
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just pull this down and you have the tools you need and here's how you do
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it. It costs money.
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Because in order to do that,
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you're going to have to buy space and a subscription.
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And if you're going to buy space and a subscription,
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that means you have to stand up a VM.
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And then it's the question of how much of a VM do you need?
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And it costs money.
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And I stood up a VM once,
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and Michael Amazano came back and said,
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well, you haven't used this,
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and it costs this much money,
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so we're just going to eliminate it.
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So you can do this stuff.
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I wouldn't even consider doing that unless we got pretty firm buy -in from management
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that, yeah, we're going to fund this.
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Because, I mean,
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a lot of this stuff is cool ideas and cool things we can do,
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but it all costs – there's some kind of resource to
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that.
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As soon as you start centralizing stuff,
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if you're going to just keep everybody developing on their own little laptop
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like I'm doing or anybody else is doing,
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yeah, there's no cost to that.
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Hopefully that –
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that they, because there's no cost to that,
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but then you don't get the benefit of the sharing and,
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you know,
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and the consolidation of the tools into a front end where you can say,
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okay, here's this tool for this.
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And,
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you know, here's this tool for this,
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and it's all web driven and you just click on it.
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And yeah,
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you can do all,
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if you can think of it,
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you can do it,
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but just,
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just take some.
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I saw this little diagram.
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Oh,
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there you go.
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And so you can do that stuff.
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Do you have access to
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Co -Pilot's studio?
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I don't know.
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I know they took
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Anurag away.
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They're going to give it to him.
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Let me see if I put this in the chat for
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you.
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Either way...
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You should get access to it.
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They took it away from him.
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Why?
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Because they are going to,
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they're getting a new license agreement.
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And for whatever reason,
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Nick saw him and got rid of him and said,
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you'll get it back on the 15th.
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Sometimes
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I wonder some things.
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You know,
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I've been playing with the agents a little bit.
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You know,
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I created a little chat bot and I was playing with
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other things.
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But I'm wondering,
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because these agents,
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you can deploy them to,
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I believe there's some correct teams or whatever,
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and you can publish them there or publish them anywhere.
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And I wonder if you were to create a little knowledge base with
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those.
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you know to a SharePoint site to wherever they're at and
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pull them in and then have the
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You use the agent.
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I don't know.
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I'm just thinking differently.
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Just thinking,
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right, outside the box a little bit.
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Yeah.
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And use this,
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right?
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And then you can avoid,
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you know,
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people can use it from here or from within Teams that
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are locally.
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I don't know.
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Okay.
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Yeah,
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maybe.
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I don't know how that tool works,
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but. Do
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you have access?
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Do I just go to Copilot Studio?
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Yeah, I put it in the chat here.
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Oh,
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let me see here.
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Where is it here?
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Oh,
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I didn't push.
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Oh, there you go.
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Oh, there we go.
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Okay.
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I do the same thing.
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I put it in there.
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I forget to push the enter button.
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Copilot Studio.
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It's churning.
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It's churning.
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It's doing something.
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What would I like to build?
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Okay, Wuma,
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I will get started.
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I'm in the United States.
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Welcome.
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Next, next,
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next,
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next.
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Okay.
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Create
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workflow, agent,
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start building.
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Well,
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it looks like it asked me what would I like to build,
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so I guess I'm there.
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Oh,
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I would look at this,
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too, you know,
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if you're looking at something,
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because Scott keeps sending me here,
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too.
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as to maybe you can incorporate what you're doing in
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here as well as an agent.
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There's so much in here.
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I mean, I'm just barely scraping,
11:45
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
you know,
11:46
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
a little, you know,
11:47
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
what it is.
11:48
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I'm using Copilot to actually guide me in and what
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S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
to do.
11:52
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Like this little chat bot here.
11:55
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I just,
11:57
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
for the fun of it,
11:58
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
said, hey, let me just see if I can create a chat bot.
12:01
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
that will,
12:02
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
you know, look at an SOP and give me information.
12:05
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Matter of fact, Jackie and I are looking at one for pen testing.
12:07
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
So people quit asking us questions.
12:10
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
And it's,
12:14
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
you know,
12:15
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
it's just,
12:16
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
there's just so many different things that you can do.
12:19
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Like this one here is this,
12:21
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
you know, my knowledge base is,
12:22
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
you know,
12:23
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
the SOPs and,
12:26
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
you know, prompting it to ask something.
12:30
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
It's almost endless of what you can do.
12:32
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
But maybe you
12:36
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
could take a stab at that and see what you come up with.
12:38
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Yeah,
12:39
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
okay. Being creative and
12:43
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
how to do that.
12:44
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Like I said, I'm not nowhere near an expert.
12:47
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I just started playing with it.
12:48
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Does he give you examples of things you can do?
12:51
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
No,
12:53
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I didn't see a sample in there at all.
12:57
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Can I upload some HTML and have it?
13:00
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
My little app,
13:01
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
can it run my app?
13:03
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I don't know.
13:05
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I don't know how we could do that.
13:08
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
You can create this blank agent and
13:12
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
then in here you just...
13:15
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I guess I would just ask.
13:18
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I have a standalone HTML application that I want to incorporate
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S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
into Copilot Studio.
13:25
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
How do I do it?
13:26
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
There you go.
13:29
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I'm not smart enough to figure it out.
13:30
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
The machine is smart enough.
13:32
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Right.
13:34
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
And,
13:36
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
of course,
13:36
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
you have your models here.
13:38
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I don't use the chat model.
13:41
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I feel that this here doesn't work as well as
13:46
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
the other model.
13:48
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I use the 4 .1 PPT in that chat.
13:52
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
That's interesting,
13:53
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Nick. Why isn't Copilot using...
13:58
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Its own LLM agent.
14:00
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I mean, isn't ChatGPT a whole,
14:02
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
isn't that open AI?
14:03
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Yeah.
14:05
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Yeah.
14:05
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I don't know.
14:06
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I don't know.
14:08
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Are we authorized to use ChatGPT?
14:10
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I don't.
14:13
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I thought Copilot was.
14:17
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I thought we weren't.
14:17
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I don't know.
14:18
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
You know, I heard,
14:20
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
you know, all I hear,
14:21
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Copilot is our tool.
14:23
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
But then I hear people using Claude and this is like,
14:26
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
well, what is our tool?
14:27
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
What is approved,
14:28
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
you know?
14:32
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
It just say here,
14:33
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
open AI models right here.
14:36
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
But,
14:37
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
you know,
14:38
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
like I said, I thought,
14:39
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
you know, I think we have to pay a license for Claude here.
14:43
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Sure,
14:44
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
we do. It was grayed out,
14:45
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
but I mean, yeah,
14:46
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
but I mean,
14:48
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
where's the co -pilot agent?
14:50
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
You know,
14:53
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
that's, I don't know.
14:54
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I mean,
14:57
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
is GPT approved?
15:00
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Well, it must be because they would have disabled it.
15:03
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Say they had the disabled herebyadmin here.
15:06
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
So we're not allowed to use Claude.
15:08
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
So they must allow this.
15:11
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Interesting.
15:12
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Huh.
15:14
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
And I do notice I get better results with
15:18
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
4 .1 and 5 .Chat.
15:21
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Oh,
15:22
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
really? I haven't played with Reasoning or Auto.
15:26
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Okay.
15:28
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Take a look.
15:30
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Yeah, maybe something to play with and venture
15:34
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
into.
15:35
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Anything
15:43
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
else that you have?
15:45
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
No,
15:45
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I don't think so.
15:46
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Yeah,
15:48
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
because speaking of that,
15:50
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I got a call with Jackie now,
15:51
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
and we're kind of figuring,
15:53
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
you know, that was one of the things we were trying to figure out was the chatbot
15:57
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
and try to do,
15:58
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
get it to do what we want it to do,
16:01
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
right?
16:01
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
We were a little bit struggling with that.
16:07
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Well, you know,
16:08
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
it just takes time.
16:09
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Yeah.
16:11
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
They're coming at us in all kinds of angles.
16:14
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I'm busy,
16:17
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
busy,
16:18
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
busy.
16:18
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Yeah,
16:21
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I mean, all the angles.
16:22
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
But, like, I was reading this little triangle thing.
16:24
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Let me see.
16:26
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
We've got to look.
16:28
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Let me go see if I can find this real quick.
16:30
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Where
16:41
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
was that?
16:41
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Here, here.
16:42
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Here
16:54
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
we are. This is kind of,
16:56
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
where do I have to find this?
17:01
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
There.
17:02
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Yeah,
17:04
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
this is kind of where I think we're at for an
17:08
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
organization.
17:08
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
And we can,
17:12
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
like it says,
17:13
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
pick two.
17:13
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
So if
17:17
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
you want it cheap and good,
17:20
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
it's not going to be fast.
17:22
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
If you want it fast and good,
17:25
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
it's not going to be cheap.
17:28
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
This is cool.
17:29
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
If you want it good and,
17:31
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
what's the other one?
17:33
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
If you want it fast and cheap,
17:36
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
fast and cheap,
17:37
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
it's not going to be good.
17:39
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
So pick two.
17:41
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
And since we are in cheap mode,
17:44
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
since our company is in cheap mode,
17:48
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
cheap has to be one of them.
17:50
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
So if you want it cheap and fast,
17:53
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
it's not going to be very good.
17:54
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Or if you want it cheap and good,
17:57
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
well,
17:58
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
we can do that,
17:58
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
but it's not going to be fast.
18:00
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
So,
18:01
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
you know,
18:04
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
when they pressure you to do stuff,
18:06
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
say, okay.
18:08
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Which two do you want to work from?
18:11
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
This is so awesome.
18:15
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I like it.
18:16
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
This is not new.
18:17
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I've been doing this shit for 40 years,
18:21
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
dude. This is not new.
18:23
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
I honestly have never seen this triangle before.
18:27
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Yeah, I mean,
18:27
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
there's a zillion of them.
18:28
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
You just Google fast,
18:30
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
good, cheap,
18:31
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
and it'll give you a bunch of different triangles.
18:36
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
That is awesome.
18:36
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
But it's a trivial picture,
18:41
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
but it does explain very simply kind
18:45
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
of the business model that you're in.
18:47
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
And when people ask you to do things,
18:50
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
you say,
18:51
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
okay, do you want it good?
18:52
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Do you want it fast?
18:53
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Or do you want it cheap?
18:54
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Okay.
18:56
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Oh,
18:59
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
man.
18:59
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
Yeah,
19:00
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
if you want it good,
19:01
S… Speaker 1 (Brian 04302026)
it's not going to be cheap.

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