Paul Tudor Jones - Lessons From 50 Years in Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.469] Listen Notes
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My guest today is Paul Tudor Jones.
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I've been excited to do this episode for many years.
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I think Paul is one of the most legendary traders in market history.
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He's also just one of the most entertaining and interesting guys that I've ever met.
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Paul is so full of stories.
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It seems as though he's lived five lifetimes in just one.
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And all of the amazing lessons that he shares with us in this conversation,
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I think will leave you searching to be as passionate about what you do as
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he is about what he does.
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This conversation was recorded in mid -February,
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2026,
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weeks before the geopolitical conflicts now shaping the global economy.
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Please enjoy this great conversation with Paul Tudor Jones.
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There was something that we talked about when
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we last met that made me laugh.
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I thought it'd be a fun place to begin our conversation today.
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And it was about the difference between being an investor and being
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a trader.
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And you mentioned something basically saying you wished you could be an investor.
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Life would be so easy.
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I'd love you to describe the difference between the two and the life of a trader.
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I promise I'll do that.
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And we'll talk about markets and AI and everything.
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And at the end,
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I'll say,
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were you not entertained?
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And I bet you'll say yes.
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But of all the things that you do in your podcast,
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the one that I think is the most important.
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If you don't mind,
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I'd love to start with that one,
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which is that question you ask everyone at the end.
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I'm in.
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I love it.
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And the reason why is because it's so funny.
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I gave this commencement address one time to what is
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now Rhodes College in Memphis.
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I remember when I was writing it,
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I was sitting there thinking,
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damn,
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who gave my commencement address?
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I couldn't remember.
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No one remembers.
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Can you remember who gave your commencement?
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You're so young,
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you might.
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It was the president of Ireland at the time.
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And you're Irish.
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But it was so funny because no one remembers who gave their commencement
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address.
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So they're thinking,
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God, I'm getting ready to do this for 15 or 20 minutes and
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no one's going to remember a damn thing.
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How do I make it special?
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And so on this podcast,
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I'm assuming people listen to millions of podcasts and
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they probably.
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can't really remember,
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but fractions of them.
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So if there's anything they remember from this,
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I hope it's this part.
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All right.
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So everyone that listens knows.
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Question is,
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what is the kindest thing that anyone's ever done for you?
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It's such a great question because the kindest
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thing was also my very,
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very, very first childhood memory.
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I was probably two and a half or three.
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It's probably 1957,
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and I was with my mother at this place called the Curb
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Market.
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I got separated from my mother,
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and boy,
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you can imagine being two and a half years old and separated from
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your mother.
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You're terror -stricken.
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This elderly black gentleman came up,
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and I was sitting there bawling my eyes out because I thought my mother had left me,
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and said,
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what's the matter,
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little boy?
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And I said,
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I lost my mama.
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And he said,
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here, don't you worry.
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We're going to find her.
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And he grabbed my hand.
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And we started walking up and down the aisles.
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It was an outdoor vegetable market.
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Gosh,
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I can almost still smell fruits and vegetables.
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We come around the corner finally.
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And I see my mother.
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And I was so happy.
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And my mother saw me.
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And at first,
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she just started laughing.
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And I remember her.
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She was.
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laughing so hard.
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She comes and she gets me and she says to that man,
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she tries to give him $5,
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which was 1957,
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a huge amount of money.
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And he said,
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no, ma 'am, I know you'd do that for my child too.
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And it was such a simple act of kindness,
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but it was so profound to me at the time.
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So that night I had a prayer list with my mother that she used to
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go through with me every night.
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So it'd be God bless mama,
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daddy, Peter,
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Paul, Alberta,
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granddad, Pete and Judy,
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Lynn and Sid.
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And then we added,
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I said,
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what was that man's name?
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She goes, I never got his name for the next 10 to 12
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years.
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Right in that prayer list would be that man,
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probably four or 5 ,000 reps every
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night for that man.
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Fast forward to 1986.
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I'm living in New York City.
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I'm lying on my couch,
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32 years old,
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and I'm watching 60 Minutes,
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and Harry Reasoner's interviewing this guy,
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Eugene Lang.
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And Eugene Lang was a businessman who had gone
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back to give the commencement address to his elementary school
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up in Harlem,
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which over the course of the intervening 60 years,
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had completely transformed from a gentrified area
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into an African -American,
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Hispanic community with almost a population entirely consisting of people
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of color.
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Jean asked the principal,
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how many of these kids,
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these 12 -year -olds,
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are going to go to college?
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The guy said,
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statistically,
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maybe.
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I don't know,
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eight or 9%,
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something like that.
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He could not believe that because obviously he had graduated from that school,
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gone on to college,
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and then done very well.
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So right there on the spot,
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he decided,
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I'm going to promise every one of those kids,
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they graduate from high school,
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I'll put them through college.
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And that resonated with me so much.
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And he adopted that class,
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and he created something called the I Have a Dream program.
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I said,
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I can do that.
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And the next day,
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I called him up,
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and he said, you know,
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it's funny, three or four other people have called me,
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and we're all meeting at my apartment on Tuesday night.
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I got there late.
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I was seeing myself up in Harlem or somewhere on
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the Lower East Side of Manhattan.
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I got Bed -Stuy,
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the highest crime -ridden community in New York at that time,
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even higher than the Bronx.
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And that began this journey.
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I put my heart and soul into it.
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I'd go over there every Tuesday,
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went to the commencement address of this elementary school,
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did the same thing that he did,
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told them that they graduated from high school,
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put them through college.
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Of course,
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everybody was jubilant.
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It was a big surprise.
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Parents were so happy.
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That began this big journey for really
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the next 14 years because I kept adopting successive classes.
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I had tremendous passion.
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We were doing after -school programs.
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We were playing sports,
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teaching life skills.
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About three years in,
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I realized these kids aren't doing that great.
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Now they've gone on to different junior highs.
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They're not doing that great.
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So I started hiring some tutors,
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figured that out.
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And then probably four years in,
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I've had one kid who got killed.
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I had a bunch of girls become teenage moms.
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So now all of a sudden I'm dealing not just with the academic
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challenges,
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but also with the social challenges to boot,
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of which there are many.
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Along the way,
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I learned so much by failing.
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I learned so much about what it takes to
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actually beat poverty.
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And by the way,
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1987,
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the year after that was when Robin Hood started.
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And then that informed me through,
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certainly was extraordinarily instructive.
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And as we built Robin Hood out and began applying metrics.
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making sure we had goals and standards and a variety of things.
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It also led me ultimately to start one of the first charter
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schools in the late 90s in Bed -Stuy,
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right next to that spot,
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actually.
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I started charter school called the Bed -Stuy Charter School
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of Excellence.
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The first one started out as an all -boys school.
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We named it Excellence because I wanted these boys to know
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that.
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we were going to demand excellence of them.
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And we completely,
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totally crushed it.
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We hired the absolutely dream team of educators to do it.
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And within about four or five years,
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we were number one out of 543 elementary schools in
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New York City.
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The point being that you can have all the passion
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in the world, but you have to have a plan.
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There has to be a great pedagogy in what it is that you're trying to do when
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educating a kid.
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Why is all this relevant to me?
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Just think about this.
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So here was this one simple act of kindness
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of this elderly man helping this young child,
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in that case,
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a black man helping this young white boy.
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And so when I saw Harry Reasoner,
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I saw that elderly man helping those young kids.
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There's the photo negative of what had happened to me.
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And I thought, wow.
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It just was instinctive.
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The point here is that one simple act of kindness
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can have waves of betterment.
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It can be so transformative and so multiplicative.
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There's no doubt in my mind that 4 ,000 reps of
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thanking that elderly man to help me as a child inspired
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me when I saw Harry Reasoner interviewing Gene Lang
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to emulate that in a sense.
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I keep thinking.
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how instructive it would be if intentionally we'd just all
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start every day with a goal of one simple
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act of kindness.
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It doesn't have to be anything big.
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It can be something as small as what happened to me when I was
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three.
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and look at the possibilities that come from it.
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Just imagine if 350 million Americans intentionally sat
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out every day for one simple act of kindness.
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What I will say,
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particularly the young people who might be listening to this,
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I'll tell you,
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before 2000,
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I would say 2000 was kind of a turning point.
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All this demonization and criticism and the attack
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mode that we seem to be in,
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it didn't exist.
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It's not the way,
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by the way,
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that this generation that's perpetrating it and promoting it was raised.
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It's not the way of the 70s,
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80s, 90s.
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You didn't have these vitriolic attacks.
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There was a much higher level of civility and respect.
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And I think down the road,
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we'll get back to it.
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So I would just say to young people,
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you don't have to accept today as what this
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country historically has been about,
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because it wasn't that way.
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When I grew up,
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it certainly wasn't that way.
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And it's not going to be that way in the future.
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Absolutely incredible story.
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Maybe my favorite version of this answer that I've ever had.
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First time I've ever done it at the beginning of the episode,
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which makes it fun too.
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What was your message in the commencement speech that you ultimately gave?
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What did you decide was the message to leave them with?
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So I got up there and I looked on the dais and I was like 20.
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people over 50 or 60.
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How many of you remember your college commencement address?
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None of them,
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not one of them could remember.
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I love to hunt and fish.
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So I go through and I talk about the normal
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challenges you're going to face in life.
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And I also talked about how going through this process,
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I wanted to make sure I was going to say something that's memorable.
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So right there at the end,
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I said, so whatever you do,
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and I pulled out my bow.
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And I knocked an arrow.
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I said, so whatever you do,
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aim high and shoot straight.
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And when I went like this,
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the whole crowd goes,
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aim high and shoot straight.
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And I had an apple on a table over here and smashed
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it.
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Knocked it. I don't know whether they still remember or not,
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but I know when everybody was ducking,
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I thought, oh, they're going to remember that.
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Absolutely love it.
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As your business scales up,
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everything gets more complex,
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especially your compliance and security needs.
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With so many tools offering band -aids and patches,
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it's unfortunately far too easy for something to slip through the cracks.
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Fortunately,
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Vanta is a powerful tool designed to simplify and automate your security work and
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deliver a single source of truth for compliance and risk.
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There's a reason that Ramp,
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and Snowflake all use Vanta.
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It frees them to focus on building amazing differentiated products,
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knowing that compliance and security are under control.
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I know firsthand how complex the tech stack is for asset management.
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And seemingly every new tool and data source makes the problem even worse,
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adding more complexity,
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more headcount,
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and more risk.
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one unified platform that automates away that complexity across portfolio accounting,
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reconciliation,
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reporting,
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trading, compliance,
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and more, all at scale.
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Ridgeline is revolutionizing investment management,
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helping ambitious firms scale faster,
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and stay ahead of the curve.
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It's an excuse for me to ask my other question about this difference between investing
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and trading.
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So I'd love you to explain the life of a trader in contrast to that of an investor.
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If I just think about when I started,
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I started in 1976,
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inflation was raging.
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I stood on the floor of the commodity pits.
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Stuff was literally going up and doubling and cutting in half every
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year. The volatility was insane.
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To give you an example of how crazy
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things got,
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Bunker Hunt was squeezing silver
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at the time.
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And he bought about 200 million ounces at
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an average price of about three and a half bucks.
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And between 1976 and 1980,
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we had a crazy monetary policy.
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Inflation started ripping,
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and silver went literally through the roof.
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Ultimately,
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I started out in the fourth economy exchange.
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I bought a membership on COMEX,
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which was the metals exchange at that time.
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I got in the pit and was executing some orders for them sometimes
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along the way.
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And the bottom line was,
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it was just the most amazing bull run.
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And I want to say by like 79,
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silver was around 30 bucks an ounce.
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And all of a sudden,
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he was worth about five or six billion,
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which made him worth three times the
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next closest person in the world.
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Bunker says,
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well, I think this silver here is the most valuable asset
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and resource on earth.
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Someone asked him,
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what are you going to do with all that silver?
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And he goes, I'm going to bury it.
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I'm going to bury it.
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In fact, what I'm going to do is I'm going to buy 20 million more ounces,
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and then I'm going to bury that too.
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So he buys 20 million ounces at $35.
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And when that happened,
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it just,
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whoa!
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It just roofed.
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Goes to $50.
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So it's $50 now.
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He's worth about $11 billion,
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and he's got a multiple of five or six on the next closest guy.
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I just couldn't even believe what I'd seen and how much money that
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this guy had made anyway.
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So that was when Comex decided the commercials had been
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just eradicated because they're sitting there holding physicals and having
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to put up this margin every day and their bankers going,
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yeah, I can't do it.
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So anyway, they made liquidation only.
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Silver collapsed,
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went from 50 bucks to under 10 bucks in the space of
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about eight weeks.
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And that had a searing impact on me to see
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him go from the richest guy to virtually bankrupt.
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in this short space of six or seven weeks.
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Right then and there,
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I would never own anything or trust anything for the rest
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of my life.
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My grandfather,
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when I was really young,
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said, son,
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you're only worth what you can write a check for tomorrow.
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That also had a really deep impression on me.
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So liquidity has always been something that's been in my
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DNA as a child because that was my grandfather's favorite saying all the time.
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And then also just my early trading days because...
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My early trading days had $10 ,000 a cow.
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I'd run that thing to 100,
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run it back down zero.
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Also living in my early 20s,
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I had this friend.
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He's such a character.
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He could take $2 ,500 for $5 ,000 and run into
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$2 million.
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