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Speaker 3 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
I'm doing great,
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Speaker 3 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
good. Okay,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
are you working today?
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
No,
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Speaker 3 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
I'm free.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Okay, so you work Monday to Friday,
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Speaker 3 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
is that what you do?
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Speaker 3 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Monday to Friday and Sunday too.
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Speaker 3 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Okay,
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Speaker 3 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
okay, good.
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Speaker 3 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Okay,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
so I got some of your disclosure.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Now, a few things,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
right? So, we did contact the witness,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
and we have,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
obviously, we have police notes,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
we have their camera records,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
we have some CCTV,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
and there was,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
I just want to ask you one thing,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
there was no injury or anything,
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Speaker 3 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
right? No.
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Speaker 3 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
No, okay,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
good. Any text messages that indicate that
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
you were kind of forcing her to meet you or something?
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
No.
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Speaker 3 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Okay,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
good.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
And you didn't make any admission to the police by mistake or anything?
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
No.
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Speaker 3 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Okay,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
great. So the first thing what we're going to do,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
there is few possible resolutions for this case,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
right? So resolution meaning there's few results from the whole thing.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
So frankly,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
the case will take you eight months at least.
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Speaker 3 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
8 to 10 months.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Basically,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
once the lawyer is on your file,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
you don't have to attend the court at all.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
But we will be checking with you during the process.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
We will tell you what the court
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
is saying and what you want to say in return to that.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Your dates are going to be like every 5 to
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
6 weeks.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
So all we have to do is attend and we have to get their input and then we have to get your
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
input.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Once you approve,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
only when you approve,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
we will enter your,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
you know, defending statement in your favor.
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Speaker 3 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Okay.
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Speaker 3 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Okay.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
So now there's three things that can happen.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
So either when we have a talk with the Crown,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Crown is the court,
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Speaker 3 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
you know,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
the lawyer that works in the court on behalf
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Speaker 3 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
of the court.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
When we talk to them,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
we will try to ask them to withdraw the charge because,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
you know, on the basis of weak evidence or because there's no injury,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
you didn't admit anything,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
and there's a witness.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
So early,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
the first thing,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
the most important thing is we have to enter that witness statement.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
So that's what we are working on.
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Witness means talking about my girlfriend.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Yes,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
like basically against the case.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
In your favor.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
In your favor.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
obviously we're not gonna get that yeah okay yeah i
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
have a doubt like uh like i heard that there you guys are trying
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
to contact her from uh whatsapp or something she's like she
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
doesn't want to disclose her or her identity or anything doesn't want to
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
like
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
if you guys want to talk to her she can come meet you guys that's what
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
it said to me yeah and that's what so
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
did she say that to you or is it someone else okay
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Speaker 3 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
okay that's fine i heard it from uh you know from someone else that
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
i heard like yes people are trying to contact me through whatsapp
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
and text i don't want any
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
okay and uh she's kind of been terrified about her
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
identity or anything registered on her id or name and stuff
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Speaker 3 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
that won't be going to anybody like it's her you
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
know it's her reservation yeah she's kind
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
of hesitant on that other than that she has no complaints from a
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
point as that's what she's told but she's saying she doesn't
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
want anything like on on call or anything on text
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
that can be as an evidence or something like okay well then
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
that's the reason so that's the reason i didn't reach out to her from my law
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
number and we used a third person yeah that's why
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
she was kind of hesitant like i don't know she was
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
worried the things are working at like different here so
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
she's trying to be cautious about that of course okay so what we
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
can do okay that's fine if so here we give her what she wants and she
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
just has to give her give us like a supporting statement for you right
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
because because once we i mean okay we here's what we can do we can skip that
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
but it's gonna cost you much more to fight the case then if she is
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
willing to meet you guys and say it but she doesn't want her uh
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
name or anything registered on it like of course yeah that's
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
fine that's she's trying to like uh look for her
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
work permit and stuff so yes well first
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
of all so this court that your case is in that's ontario case um so
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
okay so we won't take her information what i'm gonna do is i'll take yeah but still i
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
you know when it's coming from me she's kind of it's hard
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
to believe from the lawyer she likes gets it
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
she might be willing you know she's like it's your lawyer how
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
can they help me out like she's trying like if you
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Speaker 4 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
guys are trying to help me out and put her
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
She doesn't want that.
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
She doesn't want that too.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
No, that's not.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
I mean, there's no blame.
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Yeah, but her fear is legit,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
right?
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
So I cannot say beyond or anything.
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
I'm just trying to listen to what she's saying.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Okay,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
for us to even shift,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
like lawyers first of all cannot shift the blame.
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Yeah, but still,
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
I know.
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
If you say it to her in person,
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
that would be much helpful.
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
She is having a hard time believing that am I cornering
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
her or will it happen like that.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Okay,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
you tell me what's a better way to...
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
she is willing to meet up with you guys and help me out in
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
that kind of way but she doesn't want to get involved involved in any
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
kind of yes yes i got it okay so i'll give her i'll send
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
her my address it's an anonymous like it's an office address she she
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
can come here we're not gonna make her sign anything we're not gonna take any id
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
anything
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
but we need so this person who like one person
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
who will sign this document that you know this complaint against you even if one person in
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
this incident can sign that that's that's all we need we're not disclosing identity to
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
the police we're not yes yes i understood i know that
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
you're being very like upfront and like you're saying
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
it uh without any like uh hidden things like i want her
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
to
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
see that transparency you know okay okay i want hard to feel the transparency
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
i i don't want it to get into any trouble or something got
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
it okay okay that's fine okay so let's okay so that's one thing to discuss more
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
and before we before we draft a plan um we will
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
not involve her
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
That's what we can do.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
So for you,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
your case,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
okay, so this is like a serious offense,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
right? The offense,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
and again,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
what's on paper might not be the reality.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
So again,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
it feels bad that you were charged for something,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
but if we fight it correctly,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
we can have this withdrawn.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Okay.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
And as soon as we have this withdrawn,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
so, like,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
because they requested your fingerprints and everything up,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
like, from the court,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
right? We,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
it's not a police request.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
It's in the court records only.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Until you are actually sent,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
like, you're,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
the judge actually says that,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
okay, you know what,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
I think he's guilty and he gives you some consequence.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Those fingerprints do not go anywhere.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
They don't go to travel.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
They don't go to anywhere.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
once it's decided so let's say you know we
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
contest the evidence that we received because right now they have
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
even the camera footage is not very like clear so yeah
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
it's like we were in the dumpster area talking and
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
stuff when you are in uh she might we might have went
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
into the lobby again but you weren't there and that's when the cops
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came yeah yeah okay that's fine so even so we're gonna contest and
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in mostly in these cases you know when this for example somebody steals
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money from a bank there's a financial trail there's paperwork but in this
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case there's no like if the camera record is not good there's
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no other
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record of what happened right yeah so what that's what we're gonna try
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to get so yeah i understood thank you for being very
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transparent but i i she just wanted to feel that
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she's not being accused or anything like she doesn't wanna like
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She's getting a bit tense that I met a lawyer and this
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happened.
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Okay,
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we won't reach out to her for now.
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Yeah,
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but she can come to your place and meet you guys,
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you know, that she agreed upon.
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Okay, that's fine.
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I mean,
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to arrange that,
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we would have to reach out to her,
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right? I hope that won't scare her.
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Okay,
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okay.
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Yes, please.
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she was asking me that who's this lady who's like asking me
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did you know her and stuff i know i didn't maybe it's
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her junior or someone trying to contact you i said no no it's not
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a lawyer this is my this is my person it's like a private investigator they we
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don't have them on record like they don't yeah she was kind
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she's kind of scared about this by about
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people around her saying her stuff like if it get into her records
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she's trying for br and stuff it can mess it up so that's
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why she is very being very because she isn't getting into that pool
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and stuff so okay i got it i got it okay so for you the
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first try we will do is to have it withdrawn um if
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they don't withdraw what they generally do is they send you they don't send you
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anywhere so basically they ask you to take um you know counseling
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
okay and that would be like covered the cost will be covered they
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will ask you to prove to them that you
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counseling you spoke with someone and then we give that to the judge and the judge says okay
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this guy has never done anything before you've never had a criminal record you're a good working person
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you're not like one of those uneducated people then they consider
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that and then they that's called diversion so the charge will
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stay for like maybe six months and then once you complete those sessions it will be
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withdrawn
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okay so that's second option um and and we're
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gonna because the police really has to prove beyond doubt to the judge
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to have you any guilt
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Okay.
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
She didn't say anything to the cops at the moment too.
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
I didn't say anything at the cops at the moment too.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Good.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
That's good. Because then,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
okay, so no testimony means police doesn't have anything to use against you.
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Yeah. Okay.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
And worst case,
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you might have to go with a peace bond.
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Peace bond is,
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even that's not so much worse option,
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but what happens is for one year,
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they give you a certificate.
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It says that you cannot contact this person,
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your girlfriend.
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and once you they'll maybe observe you you might have
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to go for interview with the court like three or four times during that year and
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just just so they can check that you know your behavior and everything which
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i mean i'm sure it's pretty good like it's not bad at all um and then they discharge
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
you that's just for them to test you for one year if they want to do that right
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okay even in that case one year later you have no record
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your fingerprints are destroyed everything and that's there's no cause to destroy the fingerprints
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like it just it's a straightforward request to the police you you destroy them and
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they destroy it okay and then worst case they want
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
you to plead guilty
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You know, which can happen if,
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you know, that's like a really bad case.
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Let's say a police had some record,
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like maybe this third person,
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right? Maybe they were able to get a hold of them.
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Because, you know,
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even police,
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when they put a charge on you,
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the judge is on their neck.
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They're like,
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you charged a person.
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They have freedom to live in Canada.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
You charged a person.
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You have to prove to me what solid proof on paper,
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camera, or witness do you have.
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that this guy is so bad or he did this incident so they really have to work
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hard after they charge you to find any of that three items
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okay so if they get a hold of this third person hopefully
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they don't because generally you know once this person reported i
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don't think they have anything they have any interest in getting you charged
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
okay right so that was for this most likely she did it for safety
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thinking that something wrong was going on so if that's what this was she
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she's gonna decline to the police and the police will have nothing to prove
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against you and then the court has to quit you
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okay okay so in that case sometimes
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the judge says that you know you need to you need to we
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won't charge you with this big one assault but we'll charge you with something smaller and
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that will stay on your record like for a year and a half or two and then obviously
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once you've I mean obviously they're not going to sentence you for this
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you're not going to jail for this for sure
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But then after the two years,
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obviously it's going to be a longer time that something's going to be on your record,
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right? And this is the worst case,
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which is like a...
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Everything messes up,
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okay?
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Let's say the police,
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from my side,
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you know, we're doing what we can to drop the charge.
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But if from that side,
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police side, they bring something against you as a solid record.
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Then it goes there.
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I'm going to say,
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don't quote me right now,
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but I'm going to say from the look of the disclosure,
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because they will give us more disclosure down the road.
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It looks like that may be a 20 % chance,
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but the other 80 % is you wait six months or you wait,
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you have a peace bond,
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and it's withdrawn.
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But during that time,
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you don't have any guilt,
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you don't have any bad record,
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you can still work,
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you can still travel.
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There's no restrictions on you.
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You're free.
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Just make sure there's no police interaction for any other reason.
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But other than that,
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I'm pretty sure you're a safe person.
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There's people who do drugs and they get into trouble with
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police all the time.
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even while they have like already a case pending against them they're you
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know they're they're the ones who are like in trouble all the time for the police so I
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think you would be fine just if some something
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you know if you get into any situation if I don't think you would if you do
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just just let us know and we can you know help mitigate the situation like
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but this case is gonna run for eight
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to ten months like I said
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After that,
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your one year or your six month peace bond period is going to start.
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So you're looking at,
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you know, roughly 2028 mid to be out of.
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this just estimate that
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Alright, okay.
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-07-12 at 8.00.27 PM)
Even if she says the
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statement and withdraws it,
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it still goes like that?
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No,
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then it's going to be reduced.
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Alright,
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okay.
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You just gave me a normal period if they are doing
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the process.
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Yeah, I mean,
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so here's the thing.
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With criminal law,
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I mean,
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civil law is different,
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right? When the other party says,
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okay, I want to settle,
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they will not hold the first party.
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But with criminal law...
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One who's charging you is the Ontario.
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It's not the girlfriend who's charging you.
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The Ontario is trying to punish you for an incident you,
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according to them,
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you did.
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If you,
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your lawyer,
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can prove that he did not do this incident,
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he did not touch his girlfriend in a way that it was inappropriate,
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whatever, they cannot press that punishment.
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So I'm gonna,
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all these proofs that I'm gathering is like a part of the puzzle.
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Eventually, it's up to the judge to decide.
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Even lawyers cannot say,
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you know, give him this.
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But we make a full legal affidavit in your favor.
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So it's going to be a few different papers,
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a few different proofs in your favor,
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your good standing record,
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your no criminal activity before record.
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And then we're going to give a statement in your favor that he's a good person,
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educated person.
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And if you acquit him,
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he's never doing this again.
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He's not someone who's going to be in trouble in the future.
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So something we have to build that case,
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right? And that's what's going to take all this time.
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So the first time in any criminal case,
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the first time the judge will speak to us will be in four months time.
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Okay.
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It's called a judicial pretrial.
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That's when we can say,
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you know,
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withdraw the charges,
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he's going to take counseling.
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Or withdraw the charges,
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there's no evidence against him.
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Or withdraw the charges,
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give him a peace bond if they're being really harsh on you.
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Okay.
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So that's the first time.
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I mean, the case cost,
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like generally, I don't know,
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have you checked with other lawyers before?
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No, no,
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actually.
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Okay,
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so, like,
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basically,
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obviously,
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to get all this paperwork together,
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like,
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if you tell me what you can afford,
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I will try to make a plan around that because,
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you know,
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initially, like,
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obviously, at this time,
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the disclosure looks like it's quite a bit of work for us to,
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like, get together all the papers and testimonies in your favor.
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so you tell me what you can afford at this time because the
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like the court fees like even if i don't charge you for my service the
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court filing fees will be at least like 2500 in the
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process but not upfront okay
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Because usually,
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so, I mean,
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you can, like,
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generally the whole criminal matter,
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like, any criminal matter,
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it'll cost you,
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like, you know,
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about $5 ,000 to $7 ,500.
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Then,
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obviously,
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because you're, like,
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a younger person,
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you're working hard and everything,
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even if I don't hard do anything for my legal work.
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All the filing in the court,
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the paperwork and everything,
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that's what the court charges the person,
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right? So that you have to keep in mind.
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We can do a slow payment method.
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You don't have to do all that up front.
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And you can research,
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you can think about it.
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But based on the disclosure,
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the first filing,
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I will have to do next week,
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Tuesday to Wednesday.
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how much would that be i mean if you can up
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like i don't know if you can do upfront like a 500 then i can like just file that
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because that oh that's maybe we can we can wait
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a bit you know i don't have that i don't lying around right
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now it's of course so what i mean what
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can you so i can push it a little bit but again before you're before
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your first uh um your first um
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appearance which is August 4th right they need like a two
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-week gap to review all that to be in the court with you or with your
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lawyer so that's the reason and I'll also send
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you like a email format which you have to send to the virtual
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crown Brampton that's the court that has your paperwork you
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you just need to request them your version of disclosure as well because they
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have two different versions there's one for the lawyer and it's on for you
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you just need to just send that email that's every person does
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that like a normal course once you get that also
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send us over we'll try to check if there's inconsistency with that we can also challenge
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that for you and that that's gonna drop like that's gonna bring weaken your case
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with the like we can the court case against you
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uh i just wanted to ask a question uh yesterday
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i paid an amount so that she can ask uh
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make an arrangement with the witness is
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it still going on like uh do i have to make any other payments
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before that um with the uh i mean just
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all you have to pay right now is just the filing in the court
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Okay.
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That I have to do
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it anyhow even if you get the statement out of the witness too.
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um yeah the filing because that's like straight away now i'll show you
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a court document where it's okay but i'm just trying to process
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it you know it's all new to me yes i mean just so it's like a formal
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filing right everything with the court is like a formal filing um so obviously
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with some cases a person can do it on their own but in criminal
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cases obviously they don't listen to the person so it goes through like
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a lawyer processing um
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but right now that's all you would have to do for the next two weeks
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um what i'll also try to do i mean what's
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you tell me what's an affordable because um if
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for every like court hearing we will need a certain amount to
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file because before the hearing we have to have paperwork in right every time
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Okay.
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Oh,
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I don't want it to drag that much.
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You know, I have lot of other commitments on going.
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Yes.
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I mean,
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I got a bit of a how to shake into the core kind
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of.
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Yes.
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I know,
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I know.
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But here's the thing.
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So the criminal proceeding is a very standard,
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like we can't like stretch it or like shorten
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it.
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Like, in every case,
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in every criminal case,
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you can ask anybody.
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Whether it's a murder,
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whether it's,
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like, anything,
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right?
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You get dates in a standard,
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