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S… Speaker 3 (momoko)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
Thank you.
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So thank you very much for this interview.
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I found your film very beautiful.
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I'm film criticism.
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I have my own website.
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It's La Fuga.
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It's like a film studies magazine.
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But I am now interviewing you for the
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Palabra Pública,
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which is the cultural magazine
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of Universidad de Chile.
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That's the most important university here in Chile.
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so so it will appear there okay so just to
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know your film is well distributed by by Cinetopia i
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found beautiful that Cinetopia took this your film to to distribute it because it's it
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could be seen for larger audience so it's also all
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beautiful and also i went with my kids and my kids have
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four than eight years and like was
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beautiful experience like really good so i'm very i was like
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very interested to to to to to interview you i'm also teach
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teaching cinema school so i think it's i i talk with
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my um chief with my director of the school so because
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it is a beautiful example for like explorations
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link science and arts you know so
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I think it's very good too.
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So I was enthusiastic to interview you because of all of these reasons,
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you know, because all of this.
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So to divulge,
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to promote your film.
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Just because this is an interview for a larger audience,
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for a more general audience,
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I will interview just in general.
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And I want to know which is the origin of this
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beautiful film.
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How did it begin,
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this work?
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How do you think in this exploration?
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
Okay,
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I made four short films before.
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in the name of planet also planet so there's a name so one
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was planet A was my graduate school film in 2008 so
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almost 20 years ago and in this film I explored
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the formation of salt crystal and I
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made a scientific science fiction film with salt and
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water and my second short film was planet
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Zetan Zid
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2011 where I filmed fungi and
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plants and molds.
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And my third film was Planet Sigma in 2014,
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where I introduced insects in macro
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using a phantom camera in slow motion.
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And so combine different technique and film nature also in
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a small scale,
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but make it big.
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So it's a new planet.
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So it was Planet Sigma.
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And in 2017,
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I made a VR film.
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called Planet Infinite,
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where you have the big fungi growing
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in front of you,
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so you have to head up.
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and to see it.
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So there was more work on the scale that we can see.
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And then I made this feature.
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So it's like a continuous of my work,
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exploring small nature,
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changing speed,
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changing scale,
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putting as if you were very small in this small,
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normally small world,
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but make it big.
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So I was already working on this ecological
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science fiction film without human.
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And so yes,
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it didn't appear all of
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a sudden.
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And I wanted to make a feature film with the main
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character as a plant.
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So that was my initial idea to make
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an adventure film,
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an action movie,
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but with plants.
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So I was saying that maybe the seeds is a good form
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because seeds travels.
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Seeds go everywhere and have a lot of
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technique to find their own home.
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their own ground,
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the soil.
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So I was,
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yeah,
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that was my idea.
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I think that is
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very nice that is used,
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I think it's like you said,
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you use the fiction for telling a story
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that links with ecological principles and
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ideas.
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And one thing that I found beautiful
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in this film is the...
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the ground,
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but always the ambience,
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you know. It's not,
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well, the atmosphere,
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in every
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space and in every,
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like, topological...
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context is different the reaction of of this so i think it's
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a kind of choral movie you know it's the seeds but it's also the seeds
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with with this other and
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that's very i found it very interesting that kind of plural no
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the character yeah
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Thank you.
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Yes. So thank you very much for pointing this because it was a point that
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is very important.
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It's not a matter that there was one hero or one
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group of heroes,
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but it's a plural,
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as you said.
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They're always in interaction with everything,
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with the soil,
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with the other animal,
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with other plants.
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They are not an alien coming here.
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Yeah.
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they're part of the ecosystem in every moment yes so also
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for me it was important to to show in 2026
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the view of the nature as an ecosystem as
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a as a symbiotic elements linked together
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and not as a separate element
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that we are used to think before,
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19th century,
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early 20th century,
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that to take a part of the fragmented element
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of the nature.
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So I thought that today with the comprehension that we have in
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biology, in ecologic,
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in the sense of a study of the environment and
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the ecosystem,
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we have to design the story as if there was
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a connection always.
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The seeds need water.
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The seed needs ground,
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the soil.
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The seeds need wind.
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Otherwise,
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they cannot exist.
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So we are always in this dependence of
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the others.
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So that was kind of important points that I was very
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much interested to design,
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to write,
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to show in this film.
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Thank you.
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I forgot the word.
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The right word is environment.
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You know, that's the word I wanted to use.
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So thank you.
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And I think is that the other idea
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that came to me when I saw the film is this link,
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this...
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promote a link between science and fiction,
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that is not science
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fiction as we used to know.
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And also try to renew a
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point of view for the science,
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how to link these two ideas,
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trying to move on from scientific
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documentary and also science fiction.
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For me,
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it's a fiction science.
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Fiction science.
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It's first of all fiction.
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It's not a science.
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It's not documentary.
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I'm not teaching you a knowledge.
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So it's not a science.
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It's a fiction.
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It's a cinema as a fiction,
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but using science in the different,
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in the both behind the camera and
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in front of the camera.
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But it's a fiction.
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But using science as a technology,
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of course,
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or the tools and technique that we use is
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very involved with science innovation,
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the optic,
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the lens,
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the camera,
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which is,
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of course,
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innovation from the science.
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And also the knowledge that I just talked about,
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this symbiotic point of view.
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this ecological view and also all
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the scientific that I went to interview to work on this film.
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So the science is not taught with a word,
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but it's shown with an image and the sound or the
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knowledge that I accumulated to write this story.
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So the science is at the same time,
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the tools and also in the storytelling.
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Yes, I think it's also a very methodical kind of method,
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like in both ways,
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you know, in the way of the...
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how to see nature and how to see the nature process.
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So it's these different moments of this relationship within
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seeds and these environments and very different environments.
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And the other point of view also,
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the methodical about the cinematographic techniques.
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So
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this is a kind of research film,
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we can say also.
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It's a kind of film that has a lot of research.
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thing before you know so yeah and well
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let's talk a little bit about the techniques also it
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is very nice also to see like this analogical
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process you know the stop motion
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also the kind of lens relations with these
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environments and these plants and these insects.
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So I want to talk a little bit about that because I think
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it's also nice that kids,
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like my kids,
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see this kind of materiality of
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nature, you know?
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So that's a very nice thing also.
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It's not a digital thing.
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It feels like very real,
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you know?
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Yes,
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there is no stop motion to say.
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There are time lapse.
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There are a different technique,
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but no stop motion.
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Just correct.
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And of course,
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for me, it's especially in this world that we are...
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invaded by AI images,
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generated images,
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computer graphic images,
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all the things that they're like,
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we live in the post -truth era.
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So there's not really what is the real image.
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The real image doesn't really exist,
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even in my film,
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actually, because I do compositing.
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But what was interesting for me,
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important,
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more than interesting,
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is to show to those young generations at the age of your kids something
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that is real,
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really happening around us and
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in our garden,
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beneath our feet.
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Something that is authentic,
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that...
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Of course,
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there is no calamari in the space.
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Of course, there is no this fungi growing on the slug
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in this film.
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But the slug is a true one.
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I mean, it's not computer generated.
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It's not drone animation.
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They look like this in macro.
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They look like strange.
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They look like friendly.
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They look like,
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you know,
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half alien,
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half horse,
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half, you know,
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strange animal.
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The same thing as the mantis,
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the same thing as the calamari,
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as I told you before,
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or the iceberg that we won't see.
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Iceberg in 100 years will all disappear.
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So also this emergency
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of capturing them.
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with our tools instead of being fascinated by
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computer -generated images.
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The true one,
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the reality is more fascinating than what
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human creates.
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And that is what I was,
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it was very important for me.
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Thank you.
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So I have one question
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that is the...
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Did you work with a kind of laboratory inside the studio?
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How do you work that?
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You make a kind of environment that works and you film that.
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Is that the process?
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I can,
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for that,
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I better send you the making of.
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Yeah.
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I have a video in subtitled in English,
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so you can see the environment of the shooting.
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Yeah.
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Maybe it will be easier than like,
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because you have the image,
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the video of the...
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Okay.
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Maybe you can say just a little idea about this,
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because the interview,
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to tell the readers,
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you know, so kind of,
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if you want to.
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Ah, okay.
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Yes, sorry,
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because I was looking for the...
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I just sent the making of to someone else just before,
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to the festival.
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So anyway,
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I will send you the video so you can...
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You can see the image.
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But yeah,
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it's very difficult to say in one word because they were different
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scene has a different tools that we have.
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Yes.
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Starting from the time lapse,
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as I mentioned,
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slow motion camera.
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We have robots that we develop.
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We have also programming,
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machine learning,
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drone,
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probe,
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probe lens.
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We have different techniques.
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So yes.
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it's uh difficult just saying one word but the shooting last two two
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years yeah and in different location yes uh
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in iceland in france in japan and so too
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yes
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Yeah, maybe to be more specific,
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but I think,
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yes, that there is sometimes a kind of more abstract context
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
in the movie,
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
but sometimes there are some kind of garden or
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
space that it seems to be like little,
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
you know?
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
So I was thinking it was a kind of studio
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
in the inside,
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
I don't know, like a kind of...
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
little environment not to to to i i mean the babosa
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
it's small but it's not that small you will see the the set
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
it's more like three meter two by three meter okay
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
okay two meter by two three meter you will see i send
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
you the making of so you see the images that you can also capture
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
for your okay okay so um just uh
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
like um
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
to think an idea that I think is the last one,
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
not to bother you anymore,
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
but kind of perspective,
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
to think the cinema today,
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
like the future of this art.
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
So we have like a
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
kind of industrial dream also here still,
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
like with this kind of film.
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
like characters and you know and very fictional sometimes and
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
and and and these all this production
15:47
S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
model it seems like it sometimes doesn't relate
15:52
S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
with anything you know and you know it's a kind of fantasy also the industrial high
15:56
S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
-tech film also you know it is a kind of and and maybe and and
16:00
S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
the film your film came to me like this idea you know that's
16:04
S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
That's the possibility of cinema today,
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
you know, that's the kind of film we can make still possible
16:10
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
now.
16:10
S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
So I wanted to ask you something,
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
this kind of idea of
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
which films for today,
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
you know, what is the future of this,
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
you know,
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
kind of.
16:24
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
Yes,
16:25
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
I think they're talking about ecological perspective.
16:29
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
Cinema is one of the...
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
art field that is very lacking of ecological
16:36
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
conscience.
16:37
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
You have ecological conscience in architecture,
16:41
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
you have ecological conscience in painting or installation,
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
in contemporary art,
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
but we have not so much ecological conscience in cinema industry.
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
This is one thing.
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
And ecological conscience is not...
16:56
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
doing a horror movie about how nature
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
will threaten us,
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
you know,
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
will destroy the human.
17:05
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
It's not this,
17:06
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
because there are a lot of films that are supposed
17:11
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
to be ecological,
17:11
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
but it's talking more about the...
17:16
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
the horror of the heat or the insect going
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
to invade us or,
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
you know, the sand will take all over the city.
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
You know,
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
this kind of fear.
17:29
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
of the nature.
17:31
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
And I think this fear of the nature or to
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
divide humans with the nature is the first point
17:39
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
that maybe in the storytelling,
17:40
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
cinema should be more updated
17:45
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
about that,
17:46
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
you know?
17:46
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
So we cannot do this binarity
17:50
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
anymore, kind of.
17:52
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
Yeah.
17:53
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
So I think this kind of conscience,
17:56
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
it can be interesting to have a little bit more in the cinema field.
17:59
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
And also cinema is a perfect tool to be
18:03
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
in other body than human.
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
right because you have montage you have sound design music
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
and in my film you are in the in the body of the seeds for
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
one hour and ten minutes so we can be something else so the
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
experience of being in other body than human
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
can be give us a new point of view on new sensation
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
towards the world that we are living so i
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
think we should more use this tool to be
18:35
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
I don't know,
18:35
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
in the body of wolf,
18:37
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
in the body of the fish,
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
you know, to perceive the environment in a different way,
18:43
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
in a sensitive way,
18:45
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
in the fact that we will feel a new condition of being.
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
And I think what is lacking in the human today is
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
the empathy of this other being,
18:55
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
of the other condition.
18:57
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
And so because we are so egoists,
18:59
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
right?
18:59
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
So I think we should more play with this tool.
19:04
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
And yes,
19:06
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
and maybe also to open a new kind of
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
storytelling that maybe humans
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S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
are not the only interest.
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
Yes, it's beautiful.
19:18
S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
I think we have things.
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
So thank you very much for your time.
19:24
S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
And I congratulate you for your beautiful,
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
beautiful film and ideas.
19:29
S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
So I will transcript this and publish it
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S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
soon.
19:34
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
OK.
19:34
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
Thank you very much.
19:36
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
And maybe the making of who completes the interview.
19:40
S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
Thank you.
19:41
S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
OK, I will see it.
19:42
S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
Thank you very much.
19:43
S… Speaker 2 (momoko)
Bye bye.
19:44
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
Thank you so much.
19:45
S… Speaker 1 (momoko)
Thank you.

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