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Welcome back to Architect, a branding blueprint that builds authority.
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You did.
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Nicely done.
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Thank you.
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It was a little on the tongue.
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I'm going to kick it back over to Ryan so that we can get into this next section and
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then have lunch in a little bit.
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Great.
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Yeah, and I know the previous session was long and it was heavy.
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Everything gets a little more like light and fun and woo from here
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on out.
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But it's just so dang important.
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It's just so important.
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So I wanted to purposefully spend extra time there,
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both
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so that you'd have some time to really think about it we could dwell in it and kind of simmer in it and linger in
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it but i also just wanted to express its importance by the amount of time that we gave it because
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most people when it comes to branding they don't think about the stuff uh that we talked about in
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in the very first uh part they also don't think about what we're going to be talking about next
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which is how do we actually create authority how do we amplify
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the authority of our brand in some very specific
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and tangible ways
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How does that happen?
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How do we go about amplifying the authority?
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And what are some of those authority amplifiers,
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some of those levers that we can pull to instantly create some authority,
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even when we aren't truly there yet?
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So how do we model authority?
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Now, quick disclaimer,
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I'm going to be showing you a bit how the sausage is made.
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And what I did to come up,
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to really dive into this,
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is I studied who are some of the most authoritative figures
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and brands of all times.
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So I looked at major world religions.
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I looked at cults.
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I looked at thought leaders,
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types of people that everybody knows who they are,
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and they seem to come out of nowhere.
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And I tried to capture what are the unifying traits and characteristics that I see across
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all of these movements.
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Because really when a brand takes hold,
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when a brand takes over,
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what it actually does is it starts a movement.
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So we looked at the movements.
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Now I'm going to speak as we go through these.
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I'm going to use certain examples at times.
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And sometimes it can make me seem very insensitive about the
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particular movement that I'm talking about.
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And maybe there's a movement that you ascribe to.
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And I speak about it in a way that makes it seem invalid
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or that it's like merely an example.
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Please know I'm not trying to do that.
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Please know that I'm just trying to learn from everything.
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And I believe that marketing,
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branding, movements,
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they can be used for the forces of good or for the forces of evil,
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and we can learn from all of them.
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Oftentimes we can learn more from the ones that did badly than we can from the ones
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that did great things.
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Tragically so.
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But if something bad is going to happen,
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you better believe I'm at least going to learn something from it.
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Because that's who we are.
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It's one of our values.
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You saw that before.
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So, that's my disclaimer.
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Now, if you're in the route,
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you have this handout.
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This is the instant authority framework.
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These are the five ways that we have found that
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authority manifests itself,
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the five tangible ways in which authorities begin to look
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more like authorities.
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So we're going to touch on...
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each and every one of these.
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And I believe the download is also available if you're watching it on the live stream.
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If you're watching the recording,
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the download should be available somewhere.
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It also is in digital format inside the branding blueprint that you
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should already have.
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So the point is you got this.
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And if you don't,
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just draw some freaking boxes.
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You'll be fine.
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So let's begin to reverse engineer authority.
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What is the anatomy of authority?
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So we think about all authority figures,
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movements.
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One of the first things that they all have in common is they all have a plan.
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They all have a plan for your life.
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They all have a plan for your life.
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So you currently sell a product.
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You sell a service.
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But do you have a plan for success?
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Do you have a plan for success?
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You sell a product or a service,
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but have you connected what your product or service does with a greater
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plan for someone's life?
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Now, let me tell you what I don't mean.
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I don't necessarily mean a book.
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so a lot of companies say yep we got a book i wrote a book so here's my book you
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know what the problem is about books no one has ever read a book all right
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you have people who pastor
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churches professional theologians that have never read the bible but they know
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what the ten commandments are okay so when we think about a plan
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i'm not thinking about a comprehensive book a novel all right
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this needs to be distilled down to tablet form
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This needs to be distilled down to an artifact something that
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can be explained simply easily Passed along shared
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with others.
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That is a good plan These are stepping stones along the way.
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It is not a comprehensive user manual for your life.
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It is a general plan That's what we
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are talking about.
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What is the plan reference Dave Ramsey before love
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him hate him can't
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The man has created a movement.
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Second highest syndicated radio
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talk show in America.
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And he tells people to cut up their credit cards.
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You would not think that would be a popular idea and everybody wants to listen to him.
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Why? Because he has a plan.
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He calls them the seven baby steps.
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Step one,
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save $1 ,000.
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Step two, pay off your debt.
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Using the debt snowball.
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Step three,
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put three to six months savings in
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a fund.
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Step four,
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invest.
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I believe it's 15%.
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Step five is to fund college if you have kids.
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Step six, pay off your house.
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And then step seven is to give.
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This is his plan.
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These are his seven baby steps.
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Again, we don't need to have a conversation about is this good or is this bad.
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It's irrelevant.
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The point is he has a plan.
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And if you're someone who wants financial independence and you see that this person's got a plan,
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you're going to follow them.
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I remember going backpacking one time.
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I only did it once because it sucked.
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We slept in this thing called a tent,
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also known as not a hotel.
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I did it once,
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and the person who was leading it
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was called the guide.
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And the guide had two things that I didn't have.
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The first was a map,
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and the second was a compass.
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When you were lost,
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you followed the person with the map.
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You want to be an authority,
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have a map.
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We've written some books at Digital Marketer.
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Again, I don't think anybody has actually read them.
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Many of you have bought them.
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I appreciate that.
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I like that we've literally written the book on digital marketing
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at Digital Marketing for Dummies.
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I believe that some people have read it,
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but these books have not had nearly the impact
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on people's lives that this silly little napkin did.
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How many of you have heard the story of the million -dollar napkin who are in this room?
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Now, I can always tell how long you've been involved in this world by if you've heard
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the story of the Million Dollar Napkin.
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Because funny enough, I don't tell the story of the Million Dollar Napkin all that often anymore.
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The Million Dollar Napkin has been replaced a bit.
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But the year was 2006.
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My business was not doing well.
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It was doing fine before,
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and now it was doing very,
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very, very poorly.
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I'd overcomplicated things.
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I'd made it too difficult,
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too challenging.
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In addition to having a new wife and a new mortgage
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and a brand new baby boy,
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I also had tremendous amounts of debt.
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Because I'm trying to figure out,
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how the heck do I make this thing work?
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And I'm sitting at a bar at the Hilton Anatol in Dallas,
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Texas, just pondering,
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just drinking by myself,
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which they have a word for that,
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and trying to decide,
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what should I do?
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Should I go crawling back,
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ask for my little job back?
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Should I make a go and see if I can get this business to work?
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And I just said,
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OK, things have just gotten too dang complicated.
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And the only way I can simplify this,
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I remember having a conversation with a buddy of mine.
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year or two before.
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He said, doesn't it seem funny how all of these startups that come out now that are getting
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funded, their ideas are just on a napkin.
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We had this conversation just offhand.
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We had it briefly.
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The conversation was over.
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We both went on with our lives.
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That conversation I recalled right then and there in that moment.
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We're thinking,
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that's it.
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A napkin.
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If I can describe my business model on a napkin,
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then it's worth pursuing.
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And if I can't,
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then it's too complicated.
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I have no business pursuing it.
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And so sitting in a bar,
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I looked up.
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There was a stack of cocktail napkins.
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I grabbed one off the top.
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I borrowed a pen from the bartender,
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and I wrote this.
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I wrote the first marketing funnel.
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It was,
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let's have a self -liquidating offer,
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an entry point offer,
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a tripwire, so to speak.
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Have that go into a core offer for the people who buy that.
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Do a profit maximizer.
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The people that don't will put them in a return path.
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That became the million -dollar napkin.
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And this idea of the five -step funnel,
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lead magnet,
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tripwire, core offer,
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profit maximizer,
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return path,
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while many people haven't heard of the napkin,
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they've heard of the five -step funnel.
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It became a thing.
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This was the first plan.
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Now,
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I announced a couple years ago at Traffic Conversion Summit that while the napkin is good,
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it was incomplete.
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So we added to the napkin,
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and that became the customer value journey.
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There's lots of people at Digital Marketer now who they've never heard of customer value
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optimization, they've never heard of the five -step funnel,
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they've never heard of the napkin,
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but they've heard of this,
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they've seen this.
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This is the foundation.
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This is the plan.
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This is our plan at Digital Marketer for success.
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Eight -step customer value journey.
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Awareness,
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engagement, subscribe,
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convert, excite,
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ascend, advocate,
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promote.
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This is our plan.
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This is the plan for creating successful
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customers from scratch.
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This is the plan.
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You don't have to know every step to know that I've got a map.
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And if you're lost in the journey of creating customers from scratch,
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the mere fact that I have a map makes me an authority.
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I could have a map that is wrong,
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but that's the risk that you're probably going to be willing to take if
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you don't have a map.
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I heard the expression in the land of the blind,
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the one -eyed man is king.
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Authorities are often one -eyed men.
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Now,
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I'm not saying that you should have a map that sucks.
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This map is incredibly good.
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We worked really, really hard on it.
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If somebody follows the map,
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they're going to...
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Get where they're going.
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What I'm simply saying is sometimes merely having a plan is enough.
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Don't ever think this.
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You know what's working,
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by the way, when people are printing out your plan,
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and they're putting it on whiteboards and posting it on their
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walls.
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So what's your plan?
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What's the step -by -step plan for success that you have created
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for your clients and customers?
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Interestingly enough,
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it's important,
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if you're going to have a plan for them,
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that everybody agrees on where we're going.
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That's why vision matters.
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They first have to agree with what is
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going on now and where we're going for them to even
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be interested in hearing your plan.
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That's why if you don't have vision,
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it doesn't really matter.
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Our backpacking guide says we're going to summit that mountain
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over there.
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We're here,
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we're going to go there.
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Here's the map.
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Do you agree that you want to summit that one?
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I do today.
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Will I tomorrow,
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the next day, or the next day?
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No, I'll hate the fact that I went on it.
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But at that moment,
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did I agree?
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You better believe it.
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So I followed him because he had a map and I didn't.
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He'd been to the top of the mountain and I hadn't.
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What's your step -by -step plan for success?
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This takes your product,
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your service, away from merely product or service land and into the land,
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into the realm of real value,
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into use case.
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Never forget that nobody is buying your product or service
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because they want the thing itself.
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They want what the thing does for them.
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It's a vehicle.
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Two things that people buy.
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Transformation and identity reinforcement.
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Another way to look at it is transportation.
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Where's your product service going to transport them to?
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What less desirable before stay to the end that you're going to take them towards?
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Number two,
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specific answers.
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Authorities have specific answers to specific questions.
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Authorities have specific answers to specific questions.
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This is one of the first things that authorities forget when they become authorities.
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They float around 30 ,000 feet above the earth,
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and they forget that those pesky human things they're serving live down on the ground.
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We did this.
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I still do this.
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My wife says I'm prone to monologue.
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You may have noticed.
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But we at Digital Marketer for a very long time stopped
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talking about specific tactical things.
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And we started talking in these broad generalities.
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We published a product years ago called
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43 Split Tests.
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And one of the most valuable things that people got from it is we get questions
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all the time.
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What color should my buy button be?
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What color should my order button be?
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Do you know what we said?
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Orange.
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You know what people did?
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They went, thank you.
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And then they moved on with their lives.
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Now, later on,
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we were troubled to find that,
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crap,
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orange is good,
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but sometimes green works.
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Basically,
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as long as it kind of contrasts and is noticed,
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it kind of works.
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Then we got into color theory.
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We're like, you know what?
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Red says stop,
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so it probably shouldn't be red.
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And so when people said,
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what color should the buy button be?
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We were like, well, really, it depends.
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It kind of depends. It depends.
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You want to make sure that it contrasts,
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but then you also need to factor in color theory.
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I mean, very often, orange is good,
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because orange is like red in that it's noticed,
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but it's not red in that it's a stop.
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But I'll tell you what else is good is green,
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because green means go.
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You've got to watch out with the shady green,
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because sometimes it gets really muddy.
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It can almost get brown.
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It can also blend in the background.
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And green is a really tough shade on certain monitors and resolution.
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You get this lime green that's almost angry and pungent to the eyes.
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So I guess what I'm saying is it depends.
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Well,
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you just need to test it.
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You should just test it.
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And people went,
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thanks?
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Which is code for thanks for nothing.
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Where are we going to go today?
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I don't know.
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I know we're generally going up there.
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There's a trail that goes over here,
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another one that goes over there.
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If we go through this,
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we might get a little bit wet.
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If we go through this, we're going to be out in the exposed sun.
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Hotter today than I thought it would be.
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There's a way that I've never gone before that might work.
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I heard from somebody else that it did work.
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What do you think?
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Man,
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I don't know.
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You're the freaking guide.
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I asked the question
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kind of like, hey,
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how's it going?
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I expected a fine.
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I didn't expect a conversation.
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Where are we going?
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Are you an authority?
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Are you not?
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Right.
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Are you an authority or not?
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Which is it?
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Give some specific freaking answers.
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I love this post.
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Just snarky headline that the New York Times ran back in 2013.
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A revolutionary marketing strategy.
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Answer customers' questions.
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Answer customers' questions and told the story of a
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guy that owned a vinyl pool company.
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And he was outselling all the other vinyl pool companies in
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his area at that time because he put up this newfangled
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thing called a blog.
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And on his blog,
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all he did was answer questions.
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And he did it in the beginning because he was sick of answering the same question over and over and over again.
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So he just said,
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like, you know,
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why should I pick vinyl over this?
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And so he'd have the question as the title,
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and the body of the blog post was the answer.
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And he just did a bunch of these.
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And everyone was like,
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this is genius, thank you.
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And they'd go to his site,
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see the answer to the question,
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say, God, it makes sense.
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Call him up and say, I want to buy one of your pools.
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He was so successful,
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so influential in his area,
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the New York Times read a story about him.
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He then went on to become...
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Pretty dang good marketer launched an agency.
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I think he sold his agency.
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He now is partners with one of our certified
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partners, one of our certified partner agencies,
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Impact Brands.
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They were our agency of the year.
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His name is Marcus Sheridan,
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and he and Bob Ruffalo run Impact,
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which is one of the top agencies in the country.
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His marketing secret?
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Answer customers' questions specifically.
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Answer them specifically.
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I've referenced Dave Ramsey a lot because he does these better than most.
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Dave Ramsey runs a radio show.
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What does Dave Ramsey do every single day?
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Answers questions.
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He answers the same questions again and again
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and again and again.
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You think he'd get sick of it?
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I'm sure.
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I would.
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Does it matter?
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Nope.
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See,
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we make this mistake as authority figures.
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We get smarter and forget that
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the same people with the same problems are showing up every single day.
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And even the ones that we educate and influence,
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guess what?
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They graduate and leave us very often.
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But we want to follow them.
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Or we only want to talk to the people who are at our level.
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That's not your job.
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Those people are called peers.
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You want to be an authority?
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You need to help people who are where you were,
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not where you are.
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But we don't do that.
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We get smarter.
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We want to talk about the stuff that entertains us.
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I don't want to just say orange.
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I want you to understand all the nuance,
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like I do.
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And they're thinking,
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I don't care.
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Right?
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I have a site that sells organic tea.
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You know what I'm going to focus on?
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The best organic tea.
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I'm going to find it.
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I'm going to source it.
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I'm going to make sure it's packaged well so my customers love it.
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That's what I'm going to focus on.
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You're my marketing authority.
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Just tell me what the freaking add to cart button should be so I can get on
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with my life.
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That's what they're thinking.
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Got it?
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Be an authority.
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