1 Mont Kiara 1

0:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

This domestic inquiry is forming to assume the charges against the employee and to determine based on the evidence presented whether the obligations are established on a balance of probabilities. This session will be conducted in accordance with the principles of fairness and nature of justice.

0:21

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

The employee will be given a full and fair opportunity to understand the charges, present explanations and challenge the evidence brought forward. The process will proceed as follows.

0:49

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Presentation of documentary evidence and witness. Opportunity for the employee to present defence. Questioning by the panel for clarification. Closing of the session. Kindly take note of the following. All procedures will be formally recorded by HR. Only one person is to speak. No interruption are allowed unless permitted by the channel. This session is strictly confidential.

1:19

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

The chairman will have a full control over the proceedings at all time. With that, I will now hand over to the chairman to officially comment the permission of the inquiry.

2:36

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

First thing first, the first thing is that we will listen from the privilege to get witness in order to certify, submit your document. Everything is all based on evidence. We are very fact-proof drivers in order for us to access, be cooperative, and conduct this argument based on the truth. Nothing about truth.

3:15

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

That would be the two point. The third point would be whatever that we have it here, should remain confidential at all times for us to be able to access without element of biasness. Charges. Sure. Let us listen to the charges first. Okay. So Mr. Chairman, so now I will meet. There are four charges with you.

3:50

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, first charge is failure to ensure adequate technical oversight and support. So, second one is failure to ensure proper access, management and operational readiness. So, charges we are going to hear adalah failure to respond and coordinate effectively during critical operation. And charges number 4 adalah failure to exercise effective coordination and accountability as head of family.

4:22

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Right? So, it's a sermon about it to... The charges are just to expand it a bit. Yeah. Right? 15 to 17. Or... 15 to 17. Until 17. Alright, see? The location is at UITN Rowe. And regarding about my rent company, that is something that I need to request. These are the information substantially that will be based on this event. Right, right.

5:01

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

All right, so Mr. Chairman and member of the panel is committed to a security concern and litigation against Chetini in case capacity as the head of information technology arising from event that occurred between 15 to 17 December 2025 in relation to the migrant configuration activities at UITM Rao. The company case is not the technical outcome was unsuccessful, rather the issue before this panel is whether the conduct and action

5:28

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

of the employee during the critical operational activity were consistent with the level of responsibility, oversight and accountability expected of this position. So the company will present evidence to show that there was a lack of timely technical oversight and support from HQ during critical configuration failure. Proper access management and operational readiness were not ensured.

5:58

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

There was a failure to respond and coordinate effectively despite multiple escalation attempt from the site team. And lastly, the overall coordination and control of the activity fell below the standard expected of IT.

6:16

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So the company will rely on documentary evidence including the escalation report, communication report and call logs as well as witness testimony from personnel directly involved in the incident. In particular, the evidence will demonstrate that the site team accounted operational difficulties including lack of access and absence of real-time support and was required to take independently action in order to resolve the situation.

6:44

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

The company will further show that while the issue was eventually resolved, the process leading to the outcome reflects significant gap in homicide, coordination and accountability. At the conclusion of this inquiry, the company will respectfully examine that the charges have been proven of the balance of probability. Thank you. Okay, now, there's a document inside your file. So, escalation report.

7:30

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

We submit D1 up until D12. So to be precise, let me charge.

8:13

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

D5.1, D7. Wouldn't he have? You're relying on this evidence, Suzanne? Yeah, I just sent it to you. So, for them steps, and now, it's time for him to defend. Okay. So, this is the keyword. We show lack of response, access issues, and coordination gaps. So, JVMe, so, yeah. But, it's now you're dead.

8:57

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

They are for a first charge on failure to ensure the fit maker oversight and support. So, I think first we need to understand is Maireen Migration is a request to send activity by UIN to change from Metro E, where they are currently, previously they are using Metro E for the whole year time, but now they use Maireen. Maireen is actually the government at work under KT

9:28

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

connect all the university around the machine so their request is to have additional configuration it's not an issue it's additional configuration to be configured i think that's a very important point so on 15 15 December based on the charges 15 December during configuration for one computer could not be completed okay actually

10:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Core 1 has been configured on 16 Oktober. So... 16 Oktober? Bila? 2025? 2025. So you can see on the end you can provide it. You can show us. I see Azam... Now? Oh, tak apa. Tak apa, tak apa. Azam ni? Azam tu jadi lain. So, you nak pakai dulu? Yeah, they want.

10:38

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, the configuration is a bit done but it's not complete because of the external factor which is by UITM itself. UITM not ready. Okay, with UITM what happened is for the request on this migrate

11:01

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Sorry, if I say that it means a little bit. Okay, so the issue of you I think is that the communication is because they always come late, ad hoc, and without clear information. Where this activity is actually for healthy support. We need a specialist.

11:28

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

for factory support. Where, sekarang ni, we don't have specialization. We don't have specialization for factory support. We rely on vendor. Where vendor for this activity is MTS. MTS is the one that install switches from hand-to-hand. So, it's from post-switch to access point. Post-switch we have 70% more. Sorry, switchers we have 70% more. And access point is 525.

11:58

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, end-to-end solution, coming from FTS, they are the expert for FTS support. So, 15 December is actually continuity for the 16 December. What is the difference between 17 October and 15 December when you see that it's already been concrete but it is not connected? Okay, the reason is because at the remote site, when we test after reconfigured,

12:34

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

That's the thing that I explain this now. Kita dah buat kerja, tapi dia orang insist to, untuk buat now-now. Kita dah buat, rupanya, site terhentari. Okay. This my room is under Latentia Alam. Latentia Alam. And Latentia Alam, dia delegate to cawangan, which is the narrow. And the TIC that I know is Cik Azril lah. Which is Cik Azril ni pun.

13:04

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, I had to say that I had to pay with my husband. My husband was able to ask my husband how to pay for it. My husband was able to pay for it. My husband was able to pay for it. My husband was able to pay for it. My husband was able to pay for it. My husband was able to pay for it. My husband was able to pay for it. My husband was able to pay for it. My husband was able to pay for it.

13:36

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So sometimes they have dedication to it. Same goes to this activity on 15 December. It requires us to get, they request us to get support on the same day.

14:09

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Kawan completed on 7th of October. But the acquisition, charges kata, sister gagal to up for Kawan, on the 15th. So, she wanted to help her. She didn't say that Kawan didn't complete, but she wanted to help her. So, that's the point.

14:39

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

due because I explained it on the 16th of October because the decision made on 15 December is based on the 16th of October. So what happened on the 16th of October? Bila kita dah vote support, apa yang berlaku, they do not want to absorb, your team do not want to absorb the cost and they request

15:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

us to absorb the cost. I think this issue was so still, until now hasn't been resolved. No payment has been made for FTS. Up until now. So, due to this, on the 15th, we decided not to immediately hire the revenue. Because first, on the October, it was not settled any payment. And then, we want to request another support. So, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go.

15:24

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Because of the utility. 15 December tu, the Co1 tu tak dapat akses, maknanya kita perlukan MTS punya support. Co1 boleh akses. Co1? Co1 boleh akses. Jadi dia tak perlu MTS ni support lah. Kita cuma kena verify the support yang was made on the Renam Dasar. Jadi yang 5 plus 7 plus 12, team di laut tak boleh akses.

15:53

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

If they don't complete double access, they want to ask for the issue. Double access, code 2. Code 2. Not code 1. Code 1 and the access. Okay, and the access also, we already have to be able to suggest the access. Okay, let's say that code 1. What's the statement here? Sistem gagal for up and process configuration is not able to be done because there is no technical support.

16:21

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

On one hand, you said you have configured. On the other hand, you also called a firm that we have not paid. Is that because there is no non-payment, meaning to say this is not fully configured? You are not configured on paper, but not configured on system. No. On the email, I provide this information. It is not configured because of due to the configuration issue, at this time, you need to be enabled on the remote side. Which is, it is not complete. It is because we are not ready.

17:12

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Only one thing is that they don't get the help from the 15th. They don't get the help from the PTM.

17:28

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

He didn't get the help, but he didn't get the help. He didn't get the help. He didn't get the help. He didn't get the help. He didn't get the help.

17:45

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

That's the point. He doesn't say that it's not safe or not. I didn't get any complete from you at that time. But instead, this is from internal ERCMS and I got complete this for so far that I know. Were you aware there is configuration to be there? Yes, I'm aware. When were you aware of that? The safety.

18:14

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, at what time like? At 9, when that's the first time I received also the email sent by your name. Notification from UITM, D6. D6? D6? I'm going to hantar ke siapa lagi? On the same day. And with no further explanation.

18:46

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So we need to assess first. That is my instruction to reference Raouk. We need to assess first.

19:17

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

10 hours to be on your tour before the process. What happened? I instructed... I instructed... Sorry, I asked my child, which is Azam, to go to a 10th to assess on the 15th. Okay, is that conversation or via WhatsApp? How do you really your communication? This via call.

19:54

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

you don't access them because that we are aware

20:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Especially on the 16th October, that configuration that is already there. So, Azam has to be assessed through to assess what may be, there can be additional requirements as well. Because this is at the whole press. So, we also need to be very careful and extra cautious. Because on the same day, this is the configuration on the cost switch. Cost switch, if it's wrong, if it's wrong, the internet is not right.

20:29

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So we need to be very, to least accessible. What's Azam regulating today? Azam attend first. Azam attend the session and get the information. And it's provided on the WhatsApp screenshot.

21:11

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Pada ini on the 15th, is pada yang tadi email D6 ITM hantar pada 8.08 On the 15th, the same day FMS hantar 99, 9.36pm Sebelum tu ada tak dia beritahu dia nak buat 15? Berbeli ataupun SMS? FMS beli ataupun masalah, tak ada langsung

21:43

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

If you could get to know on the 15th, you can go. So basically, on the 15th, we check again with Azam. Azam had a call for us and we answered it at night. And Azam mentioned that the configuration need to be there. Actually, this configuration is already open.

22:19

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, looking at the situation, memang saya nampak saya dah justify and I think we need to proceed with render then we hire render. After the justification, on the night, on 15. Okay, the activity started, kita tak boleh buat on the working time. Business hours, kita tak boleh. So, this activity usually start after 6.

22:48

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So after assessment done by Azam, after 3 hours, at 9pm tu dia call saya. Cuma masa ni dia, saya tak perasan, tapi dia saya whatsapp dia. And Azam kata dia ada minta tambah configuration. Which is actually configuration ni sebenarnya dah tambah. Dah ada. So maksudnya bila kat sini saya faham, apa yang saya faham, based on my experience, Azam is not aware what is going on.

23:17

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Azam, he already lost. He didn't know what happened. Supposedly, this is actually, this activity is the same from the year one. October. The October one. So, he should be able to join. But, he said that the configuration must be added. And the configuration is already there. So, from this, from this, okay, I know that he didn't know. He didn't know.

23:47

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I have a floor that I put on. I'm still focused on the 15 issues. On the 15 issues, before I put on the 16. 15, number one, I see that this is only 9.30 p.m. in the email. That's what I want to do for configuration.

24:12

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, if we don't want to do this, in the morning, according to the evidence of your evidence, it only gave us a letter from 9 to 18, on the 15th. It means that from 9 to 9 to 9, we don't have a problem. It's a problem. The evidence of the evidence of the 15th is a combination of the morning.

24:41

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Malam. Dari pada pagi tu yang dikata mereka tak boleh up ke, tak ada existence dia, ada dia beritahu apa ke tak ada? Macam saya cakap tadi, dia kena start after 6. Betul. Maknanya, adakah dia beritahu on the door?

25:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

bahawa Core 1 itu tak boleh diakses ataupun dia hanya beritahu waktu 9.18 malam? There is no information Core 1 tak boleh diakses. The information is dia perlukan additional configuration which is daripada sini, I assume Azam dah access the Core 1. That is why they mention kat sini perlukan additional configuration.

25:28

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, it has to be assessed. So, it has to be assessed in 2009. Dia buat configuration ni pada lepas bulan petang. Itu sebab dia bagi email.

25:40

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

By the day, on this pukul 9.00 p.m. Which is, there is a time after 6.00 p.m. So, to say late, late, late, just late. To say late, late, late, late, just late. To say late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late, late.

26:02

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Is there not a team of IT who can send people to the IT team or just rely on the IT team? We only rely on the IT team of IT team of IT team of IT team of IT team of IT team of IT team of IT team of IT team of IT team of IT team of IT team of IT team of IT team of IT team of IT team of IT team of IT team of IT team of IT team of IT team of IT team

26:30

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

And we have already asked Azam to help but I don't know what to do. So Azam told me, okay, I'm going to attend for the night. Sorry, on one hand you said Azam seems not to be aware but now you are saying that Azam is aware of the configuration. Okay, that's right. When he mentioned this, he needed a penambahan. So that means...

27:10

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

He is there?

27:35

S… Speaker 4 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

That's why I tell you something.

28:19

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

With that brief period of 10 hours, there's a lot of things that can be established internally. It could be a one phone phone away to just as a phone. What can I do? What can I provide? How do I back up? If they're not being physical, be far away. So that will be something like being the heat. And you're not aware in terms of experience what needs to be done if configuration is required. For me, this is very important. Then it will have a train of processes that need to be done prior to.

28:54

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Has that been done? The third is, what if the mission failed? Because on one hand, the first line of statement that you can do, but it seems that they are going to do. So, they are not aligned at the same time. So, we have to re-assess what they do or what they do because they are involved. Maybe they have something to do. Okay, this activity is actually going on to currently, with our next and next one, fresh activity. Actually, the configuration being done is actually temporarily.

29:30

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Because why? The Co-Maneco 2. On 3rd January, we switched, we took out the whole infrastructure including the Co-Swish. So, this has been discussed since the beginning of the project. When it was switched, it's not in the last year we discussed. It's already 2 years that request for the price. I think Encik Zoom is going to clarify.

30:00

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

and then when we start the project implementation which is the kickoff on 37 October 37 October the kickoff for this membership it has been presented the finding for this 16 October and we discussed what is going on and Azam also is in the kickoff Azam also everyone is in the kickoff including the vendor as well so

30:27

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

If I don't understand it, I've been talking about it. It's the point that I don't need to have a team of IT team for business. Because they already understand it from 2 months later. And maybe it's the same with me. MTS is the same.

31:06

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Sorry, tadi you punya last statement, you kata by January this year, there's salin kulit. That was the wave. So are you now seeing this migration this 15 until 17 is not even needed?

31:21

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

It is needed, but it is not the actual implementation. The actual is when we migrate to the new switches. Which is in January? Yes, one week after receptivity. Adakah ni pre-revisif untuk full migration in general? Exactly. Okay. Maksudnya, ni perlu lah. Ni perlu. So, macam barang rasa lah. Because of why, the configuration tu, kita migrate nanti ke switch yang baru kan. The same configuration.

31:52

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

One more thing, when they did the testing from 6 to 9, from email, did they communicate? 6 days of his name, you can go to Monday. I saw email from WhatsApp.

32:43

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

No official request. We don't have official request from RFMS but we act based on

32:53

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Where would they share? Where would they share? With your DM? So, that's my problem. So, that's not my problem. Because I was from 16 to 18 to 18 to 18 to 18 to 18 to 18 to 18 to 18 to 18 to 18 to 18 to 18.

33:11

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

and they start, eh? Do you call Dini and the team to help you? In the Whatsapp. Do you? In the Whatsapp. In the Whatsapp, I can see it in the 18th. On the 15th. On the 15th. On the 15th. Okay, on the 15th. Okay, on the 5th. Okay, on the 5th. Okay, on the 5th. Okay, on the 5th. Okay, on the 5th. Okay, on the 5th. Okay, on the 5th. Okay, on the 5th. Okay, on the 5th. Okay, on the 5th. Okay, on the 5th.

33:48

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

employee in order to ensure adequate technical oversight and support and focus on core 1. So, it's 15 bulan. So, in weakness, in D12, in D12, there they mention because on the 5th of December, there is like this in group. Sorry, because I am in group. It is in group, consistent with UITM.

34:22

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

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34:52

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

It's not far away from you communicate with Azam. It's 9am.

35:02

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

The same as Nila, the team has a conversation. How do you respond? How do you respond?

35:37

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So this is why from there? This is the call note.

36:16

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Then, I tried to call back then, I tried to call back then, I called back then, I was sent to Azam. This is called from Cik Dini, right? From Azam. Oh, this is Azam. It's not related to Azam. It's not related to Azam. It's not related to Azam. It's not related to Azam.

36:47

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Meaning that the first call is 10-9-18 Also Azam called you, you didn't respond on the phone but you text Actually, it's siang that I called you But I didn't know if I was able to call back Then I was able to call back Then I was able to call back Then I was able to call back

37:14

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

9 to 7? 9 minutes different. Only you call 9. Ok, 9 to 7. Subsequently, they try to reach back. Laku 11. So, if you can look at page 11, they try to reach back. Then, they letak pick up. Same color. The conversation is done.

37:38

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Next page he says, dalam 11.30, tiba geliran saya cuba untuk call lagi sekali dan gagal. Pihak UITM pun tak pressure untuk masukkan ke call switch satu. So, maknanya dia try call lagi, 9.26. Lepas tu dia turun lagi, 11.31.

38:12

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

11.31. Dini stop at 11.12. 11.31 dia ada call. This one too is tight. So I think the first call 9.18 ni dah resolve lah kan? The second call tu? 9.26 tu? Do you know? No, I don't have any. Saya pun check dalam call saya pun. 9.27 ni? You call 9.27 ni. Tu yang last. 11.31 ni.

38:45

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

11.31, what happened? They called you? Okay. 11.31, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But based on the call area, this is related to technical. Basically, for technical justification, during this Act 9, this time, we have decided that we will hire for people.

39:18

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

hire for vendor in case of the station. So, the pleasure is coming from UITM, which I am also not aware of. So, I found the station Azam with lack of incomputed on this L3. So, during the pleasure, they are depending. And, I can find the station where they are going to go. So, it's a big motion.

39:49

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

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40:03

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

This one is no cost, right? Yes, additional cost. At that time? At that time. At that time. This time they decide?

40:30

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

On 15th, it was going to be how long? 2 p.m. And then in Korea, when 16th, H2IT came? Or did we not come to 17th? We did not come. Because the vendor is remote. The vendor is remote. So, this is the case. Because the IT has to be remote, we cannot go outside.

40:53

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

And I think, not for IT, for all of this one, it's not the nature of it. So, if you don't mind, we can establish that you can do it. You can say that. But with a tendon and support from Azam, which is Azam assists or to give access. Physical. Azam is physical. That one is justified, where Azam is able to provide access.

41:24

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

But if there are keys, that's why they want to be able to do it. Is it, if I see the IT, on things like this, the issue is not going to come? Because it's only about client. Yes, but it depends on the criticality. So, I guess that's it.

41:53

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

It's not an issue. It's not an incident. It's a configuration. It's a configuration. It's two rehearsals. To achieve the next migration, the full migration on the next month, which is January. So based on that justification, then we decide that it's not to come to the side. There are two issues.

42:23

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Tadi you nampak Azam macam goyang. Eh? Tapi yang betul, you rasa you boleh buat remote. Maknanya, you tak ada intention kena support dia yang you tahu dia goyang. Oh. Dia... Untuk yang ini, memang kita pun tak boleh buat. Saya pun tak boleh buat. Saya pun tak boleh buat. This is not my forte. This is MTS. MTS.

42:55

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Okay, if you don't mind, then what should be your role during under 15? Okay, under 15, I gave the information which is Azam has provided the information inside. So, in the morning, on 16, then immediately we can call you. You don't have to be there, but you have to be...

43:22

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Monitoring? Monitoring Azam talking to the vendor ke apa? Monitoring apa? Kita buat assessment. Kita monitor, kita assess. So Azam provide information and we assess. You lah, still us. So tak kena dengan vendor lah? Tak. Sebab kita yang akan hire the vendor tu, that is based on our decision lah. So my role is to decide.

43:47

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

What are the next steps to do then? Because our vendor is hiring, sourcing, coming from HQ, not from sight. So, if you don't mind, would you, what ever happened on the 15th, acceptable? What ever happened? What was supposed to happen on the 15th, and you would say, okay, we have achieved our objective on that day.

44:13

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Because at first, the nature of this request is at all. So that's why my expectation of the 15th is to assess. And when was that assessment completed on the 15th? On the 19th when Azam provided with the information.

44:45

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I don't want to go to that question. When you say dim concrete, is the one that you go to?

45:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

The finding is Core 1, unable to communicate with UITM. So which is mean the same issue happened on 16th October. So that's the finding, the same idea. So when it comes, which is mean Azam, Maksudnya Azam dah surrender lah. Azam dah tak boleh buat. Azam tak boleh bantu tu. On the 15th itulah. On the 15th. So we can hire the next day. The next day tu 16th lah.

45:30

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I think of chapter 1 You may chapter 1, side team did not receive adequate technical support from HQ Okay, I want to ask you on the 15th or on other day? On the 15th? Maybe we want to hear from you. Why you better start adequate?

45:50

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Okay, the reason why I take it is because of... So, because we gonna work on...

46:12

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

15 until 17 only. So report come in, reason why we charge one failure to ensure adequate technical oversight and support is in our witness.

46:41

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Yeah, in our witness, we always say... What's the witness? Don't mind? Azam. Azam is the second witness. First witness is Encik Razif. So, we would like to call upon him later. So, for the reason why we talk about the number one is because of, when we look at this... What Azam is? Azam is the second witness. The first witness is Encik Razif. So, we would like to call upon him later. So, for the reason why we talk about the number one is because of, when we look at this... What Azam is? Azam is the second witness. The first witness is Encik Razif. So, we would like to call upon him later. So, we would like to call upon him later. So, for the reason why we talk about the number one is because of, when we talk about the first one is because of, when we talk about Azam, Azam, Azam, Azam, Azam, Azam, Azam, Azam

47:09

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Seluruh UI tank berlaku benda ni serentak. Tapi, bila berlaku serentak, bila menunggu turn, happen to be, dah dekat malam tu. So, bila dah try to access the password, sesemua, dia tak dapat adequate support lah. Daripada HQ's media lah. So, that's why we established the charge one. It's better. So, it's about retail.

47:38

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

They try to assess GDV, they try to assess Fatih. So that's why we can look at the statement here. If you look at the statement,

48:08

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Okay, so when I update this, we have a billet turn to our team, but we have a response from our team. So, I update the group of communications that is given by Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan and Puan

48:40

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Yeah, from my justification is we will be assessed further because first, my stand is at the open request. We do not have any detail information. Even itinerary, we don't have it. And for HQ, we had to click based on the capacity at the moment which is the information, manpower and also skills and competencies.

49:08

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, we had a take based on that, on the 15th. Okay, I have a bit struggled on this position, take. I think Jay mentioned three things. Competency, on one hand, you conquer as long as it may not be up to the mark. On the other hand, you also said that it can be done remotely. On the third one, you also said that it's intended to assess. So, if you have assessment, your third point seems to be misaligned with what you are taking intention. This is Client-based service.

49:41

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, and what, echo to that, fourth item is that you punya, you're saying MTS is really configured in October 17. But at the same time, you also said that we have not paid MTS. On the first line statement you mentioned, we require an expertise ID of vendor at this point in time because of their level of expertise.

50:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

or whatever not. The know-how. Okay. So, the four things that boggling me, frankly speaking. First is that clearly, neither do you nor do Azam can do it. You will need MTS. And by not paying MTS naturally, things cannot be done on 15. Be it 8, like be it at night. So, dalam dia punya invitation, 6-11 malam, you have 10 hours spent in time to crack your head. To think how the best way, rather than the assessment alone. Being a hit here. Okay.

50:30

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

question is that I knew clearly my vendor, whoever they exploit here, are not coming. They're not going to here to help, simply because we did not pay, if I understand it correctly, in terms of actual. So, whatever 15 that expected assessment to is just a bare statement, because let's assess something that's nothing to be assessed, if I understand it correctly. So, this is the part that I thought, how do you expect to, what will be the outcome you expect out of the 15, not assess,

51:04

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Because the confusion has been done earlier. It's not that we are going to assess back from the beginning. Faham, faham. But I think, Tio mentioned the word password. So, there is something that they are relying on you to provide in order for it to... Okay, that's it for charge 2. For charge 2. It's for call switch number 2. Call switch number 2.

51:29

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Okay, when you say complete at 2 o'clock, what is happening at 2 o'clock? When you say that you have finished, what is it? You have not finished. On the 15th, it is not finished. Okay, can I go to 16 o'clock? I want to know what the reaction is after that. Go, go. If you talk to me, on the 15th, you have access to call. Betul. You can access to call 1. So, call 1 is established on the 15th. Okay, in the next day, we hire vendors.

52:03

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Because the assessment... Can anybody make us through how they will do that? Is there anything that you... Because I don't really accept your sale. You have to establish them. I do, I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. So, basically... Okay, there's a certain situation around. Sebelum Azam came in. All the acting members in there resign. And there's no IP.

53:11

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So since then, memang HP is a fault. There is a fault. Including all the PPM activities, all the 500 structures, we need to be there. So, what happened when Azam joined again, of course we performed, which is happened on the 11th of June. Dekat sini, we were able to prove for travelling claim. I did travelling claim. I let that claim number.

53:35

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

which is this day, but we had to travel to Raouk to conduct handover, to new staff which is Azam and there is another one Mahaymi. And on the next page, you can see in the WhatsApp, I shared a folder, zip folder, raouk.zip which is at 93.2 MB, including the Rufflin network diagram. 11J. The Buddha Polymer.

54:08

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, okay, dalam that folder, there is a document, admin guide networking folder admin guide networking and PDF file, UTM SB version 1.0. Okay, in that file, consists of the cross switch password that was claimed missing. That is... Claim missing by siapa tadi?

54:42

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So basically, it has to be provided during the novel. And actually for Raup, there are not many documents that exist. But in the founder, in Raup, there is everything that exists in there. The password is all in it.

55:00

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, analogi dia sama macam kita dengan user lah. Kalau user, dia lupa password yang top dengan ni. Dia tak boleh lah salahkan IT. Kita dah bagi password kat dia kan. That's the analogy lah. I nak tanya juga, bila yang Azam diminta? Password ni ya? If you can see the document E-12, conversation between Azam and Tati. E-16. E-16. E-16.

55:45

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So this one atas ni semua is okay? Okay so I, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my,

56:02

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

That is usually what I'm saying. Let's check back the document. But is there not the document? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

56:34

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

But how did Azam get it? Did you say that it was the truth? The truth was the truth. The truth was the truth. The truth was the truth. The truth was the truth.

57:07

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

But, if Srin Fatih's statement, to Azam, I don't have to enter, it must be the same. Is it the same or is it not the same? Right, it is the same. This is the default password and the document. I don't have to do it. But I don't have to enter the password. And the document. How do I... How can I then apply to the statement that you made? From Liz Watson. For example, in this case, OKD didn't have the document. This is Fatih.

57:52

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Because in order to help you, you need to establish your fax. In this case, you don't see it unless you extract the folder to prove to us it's actually the wrong. If you can see here, the postage, this is the password that was sent by Azab. Azab is the one who provided the password. So which is me, this password is coming from the folder. This is the password that comes from the folder. Maybe while you're here, do you mind the photo?

58:36

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

That's what I provide. This is the corsage too. This is the corsage too. Because his defense is 11 years, so we can only. Yeah. Same. You can see the directory. Because to guess, this is something impossible. We can't get the guess. It's just a little bit. Okay, so Fatin is not privy. You're saying Fatin is not privy or the only one that? Okay, so I'm not. Why did Azam not register you on 16?

59:51

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Why would Azam go to Fatim clearly knowing that she's an officer?

1:00:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

This conversation, first password, between you and Azam, happened verbally. You said? Verbally. Do you remember Rafiq Qobopo?

1:00:15

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

On the 15th, not on the 16th. That's not on the 16th. That's not on the 16th. That's not on the 16th. That's on the 16th. That's on the 16th. If it's on the 16th, it's on the 16th. If it's on the 16th, it's on the 16th. If it's on the 16th, it's on the 16th. If it's on the 16th, it's on the 16th. If it's on the 16th, it's on the 16th.

1:00:49

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

because there is a reason why we replace the switches because there is a problem because there is a problem because there is a problem because there is a problem because there is a problem because there is a problem because there is a problem because there is a problem because there is a problem because there is a problem because there is a problem

1:01:10

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

We are not the owner for one year. Please, I expect late to manage management. Maybe Azam went to Fatin because we can't contact him. That's good. Go back to your evidence. Now, I see three things. Is Fatin freely to this group? Yeah. So, we need to say Fatin also has the password. Yeah, in the group, I think. Fatin is freely to this group.

1:01:38

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Yes. So you actually share to everyone? Right. Not to individual? No, to India. But in the group 2, the group 2 is Fatin Azam. It's very confusing because I don't know. Okay, if I understand from this process, we started with this conversation, straight into the past. Okay? Did you get it? Okay, everyone got it. After that, the next question is, I've been looking for a chat for a long time, and I still haven't seen the course number 2.

1:02:12

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Patutnya sama, Fatin cakap. Cuba Azam. Salah. So, this is call switch. We are talking about number one or number two? This is call switch. This is call switch two. And provided by Azam is call switch one. This is part of the question, call switch one. Okay, so call switch one, simply because they are able to extract from this zip up. I assume, right? By the time they are pukul 12.00, 11.30.30. Okay.

1:02:41

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

just for one password. See, Fatin accessible, you pun accessible, dia pun accessible. But somehow you're not accessible that malam. Why? On 16th. 15th. 15th. Pukul 11th. Pukul 11th. Pukul 11th. Pukul 11th. Pukul 11th. Pukul 11th. Pukul 11th.

1:03:21

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

And at 11.30pm, I tried to call again and gagal. The manager of the U.N.A.M.S.A.L.M.S.A.L.M.S.A.L.M.S.A.L.M.S.A.L.M.S.A.L.M.S.A.L.M.S.A.L.M.S.A.L.M.S.A.L.M.S.A.L.M.S.

1:03:55

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

11.31. So, that's the big question mark. What happened here? That one that you didn't get to reach, and let's show your ratio... Thanks, Fatih lah. That's the speculator. Thank you. This is my follow-up. Okay, please jump. Please jump. Please jump. 15.00, 12.00. I don't know. So, I don't know how it is.

1:04:21

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Do you want to find it? Do you want to find it? Do you want to find it? Do you want to find it? Do you want to find it? Do you want to find it? Do you want to find it?

1:05:02

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

That's why CO1 completed on 15 because they are able to retract back from the zip bar and also it answered why Patin had that number because she is also in the same way. Let's walk with Navi's partner. Cuma dia ni tak ingat kenapa you tak answer that call je lah. Betul? Is that your answer to this? Because the charges is macam tak ada respon.

1:05:32

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I don't understand why I don't understand why I don't understand. Because online too, I suppose, when I remember, at that time, if you look at the issue, he doesn't have to proceed. Maksudnya, Azam, he doesn't have to proceed. So, he stopped. But I'm not sure, I'm not aware of the young, the ITM pressure, everything. So, usually, the ITM will cause it.

1:06:02

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So you think I don't have a pause already? So now the information is only two parties, just say you only talk about the next day. Because that's what I asked you, what will happen on the 15th, at which time technically I can go to sleep? Meaning, as far as kerja hari tu, that expectation gap too, at which point? I didn't know you dido or what, but what I'm trying to say is, maybe you'll say, okay, that's it, you go, next time.

1:06:33

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Where did you find your job on the 15th? Where did you find your job? Where did you find your job on the phone? Where did you find your job on the 15th? Where did you find your job on the 15th? Where did you find your job on the 15th?

1:07:09

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So that means you're trying to say tomorrow pula? Is it tomorrow? You want to contact them too? Yes. There's one thing I want to ask Mr. Chairman, what is it? 15, 16, 17, it doesn't have any issues.

1:07:32

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Walaupun, walaupun dia kata untuk MTS, memang tak ada langsung, betul? Tak ada, based on justification, dia tak ada bulu anjing, betul-betul. You're talking a little bit about COO FMSG waktu itu sebab Azam? Tak ada orang bagi tu? Tak ada. Ataupun dengan siapa tu? Dia punya head? Razif. Razif, tak ada. Dia pun tak minta kamu turun. Razif pun tak ada. Razif pun tak ada. Razif pun tak ada. Razif pun tak ada. Oh, Razif pun tak ada. Razif pun tak ada. Razif pun tak ada.

1:08:05

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Kamu sebenarnya tak ada keperluan lah. Then, sebab kita pun tak terima official request daripada site. There's no official request. There's only to communication, Whatsapp, IoT. There's no official request to... To turn to... I mean, that SOP ke? Yes, yes. There is for support request. Then we have the SOP. So, from client itself, there is how you deem official? Is an email deem official?

1:08:38

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Yes, email is the first to the official. So already an email, wouldn't that be something that you feel is huge for you to say? That is why we react as well. Even though there is no official press from, even though this is coming from client, but there is an obligation from RFMS to create the official press.

1:09:10

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

and that system to work with SIT because we really need to manage this otherwise my team has already hit my head. I really appreciate it. On one hand, we acknowledge what happened in the past three months. So naturally, I don't know if I'm sitting at the FMS to be able to escalate this any further than what an email to speed up the process. Thinking on your judgment line, not so that neither do you nor do them can actually be prepared for things. It's just true. Wouldn't something of

1:09:48

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Then just saying that the SOP does not follow. No, we say that.

1:10:01

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Me and my relationship with Encik Hazrin as well, he's very close and for Rosemary also, he's very close. Did you reach to Azrin that night? To Encik Hazrin? Encik Hazrin... Because your punya bridge is only one, Azam sahaja. Yes. If Azam do reach to you naturally because you got through your relationship, you're very close with him. Right. With him and you heard one more, Haizah tadi. Rosemary. Rosemary.

1:10:27

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Just to be on a good fit basis. To just show that on a good case, I can't be there, but I will assist and cooperate. Something on those lines. Did you do that on 15? I had a phone head. Sorry. Encik Hazrin and I want to confirm that they will not be there. The one that is there is a technician. So that is why I'm not going to talk about it. Because knowing the situation, I don't think it's appropriate that I want to talk about it.

1:10:54

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

But when you say you reach to them, 15 exam Can you prove? Yes. On the 15th exam... Boleh I can say that, Dini, who is a technician level, so no need for you to attend. Because if you're happy to go down, you will go down.

1:11:29

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

which is this initial report from Encik Azlin or Puan Ros Maria

1:12:32

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

He said that UITM is going to tell us about what he is going to do in order to configure me, Mr Azam, to enter into call suite 1. Do you know what Azam needs to do? Only in the 15th.

1:12:55

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Bila dia beritahu yang kena masukkan configuration and code switch. Masuk ke 9 malam tu? Masuk ke 9 malam tu. That's where yang tadi saya cakap, yang saya assess and finalise from there. The configuration tu dah ada dah pun. Sebenarnya dia tak perlu masukkan. Dah ada pun? Dah ada. Kita masukkan on day 16. So from there, saya dah tahu, okay. Azam, dia dah lost. So, ni dah tajik technical. Ada tiga orang ni.

1:13:25

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

ITM, Azam, and Dini. They took my mind, I think. So you take the view that Azam has lost because your view, it's not true. It's not true. It's just that Azam said that your ITM is not true. The statement of Dini is that they had to communicate with us, which is Khazrin and Rosmaria. Azam, you are in Don Dindong, except for 1131, you don't remember why you didn't reply back.

1:13:56

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Melainkan you off the view, 9 tengah tu dah settle. But it's so when I start back. Betul? It is objective to configure Core 1 and Core 2. It is objective to configure Core 1 and Core 2. It is objective to configure Core 1 and Core 2. It is objective to configure Core 1 and Core 2. It is objective to configure Core 1 and Core 2.

1:14:27

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Because our call 2 actually is, it doesn't work. The call 2 is missing the password. So basically on 16th, that's the size. Talking about MTS data, MTS is under you. MTS is under you. Why did you get that? MTS data? They are remote. They are remote.

1:15:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

like the model technical's views, right? We can see if we don't attend the site. So, you mentioned that the last statement that the last client has been termed. How do you...? Because they said that once you get the result, there is no issue. What do you mean by that? For Core 1,

1:15:31

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Computation has been done. So this method will verify the connection with UITM. Okay. And why did he need another access for course to H2?

1:15:45

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I think he's not aware that for switch at that time, for switch 2, actually it's not required. Okay, I have problem digesting when you keep saying issue of competency. If we as a head, acknowledge our team are not competent, where do we do our part to make sure that this is? You got to... Does it matter about ESOFIC? This is immaterial. People are outside, technically, if it's their head, that's not even a defense. It's not even in your document. It's just a statement.

1:16:16

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

That's why I said, did you at least stick and travel since you said that you are at the top, right? Okay, where do you then bridge your relationship with your ITM? One is reputation that is stick, but you are saying that assessment-wise, this is officer level that you have to work. So there is no necessity for you to go. But on the other hand, you say clearly, competency of Azam is not there, it's not up to mark. Neither do you there physically nor do you assisting.

1:16:43

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

on the other side of the spectrum. So you then reach to MTS? Yes. MTS. Okay. Then MTS pun buat remotely juga? Remotly. How do you in the picture? Just to call MTS, can you access MTS? This is what I did. Already after we access in the night. And normally, we hire MTS. We need a support from MTS. You can manage tuition too simply because client...

1:17:13

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I think we take Encik Aliam for example, J.K.R. J.K.R. panggil SOS, SOS aje, then he will have to. But I'm trying to assess in terms of when you're aware that he's like, how do we then play our part? Because kalau ikut dari invitation tu, pada I, I can feel benda tu sangat alarming ataupun disturbing. Dia punya assessment tu, you tell me assessment. Dia macam light level tu, gravity je. Satu is configuration, satu lagi assessment. Big different tau, big cap.

1:17:54

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

They have approximate time and now, sometimes, 11 in the morning. It has been escalated until they're back. So, you can imagine they have an acconing to wait until they're settled. But, you're already not around. So, now, let's take us through 16. I want to understand the issue of how urgent is urgent to you because you deal with everything seems wrong. 1, 2, and then, 16. What do you want? Can you prove? I think that in the beginning, the first, the first is set around 15.

1:18:38

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So the level of emergency is justified by UIT MS7 is a question mark for me. After that, I was a jerk. Last minute, what would you reply? Did you communicate to Azam Azril since you've done out communication with him? Yeah, to Azam. Because you guys are at this level. So now you have already contacted him to then say, if you're going to touch whatever that would, you can rest your configuration. This is your statement, I'm reading it while you're talking.

1:19:10

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Is that something that you can show us with to show that you actually caught it? But you are in a position to stop it. It's trivial. You have access to it, but it's cheap. Somebody is going to touch it, you know, they don't know what they're doing. So you will be alarming. Or just do not touch it. The presence of that will stop the whole thing. That 10 hours do. It's what I'm trying to do an assessment in your mind.

1:19:55

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

They come from Gretchenes. They come from Gretchenes.

1:20:00

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

To 15, the way to allow your strongholds is that there is a risk in the event and third party touch your networking. Okay, let me say in government demand, proceeding without proper L3 skillset would have introduced unnecessary operational risk. Clearly, once you receive email on 15, someone is touching your item. In the nutshell, that will be alarming enough. Then you will intervene as a hero.

1:20:30

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

to stop that even from configuration to happen. Have you not done that? Because you can, you have assessment, but that's risky. So, if there's configuration to involve without the skill set, Azam is not knowing the problem. You just have to verify the connection. Okay, but if there is a risk factor to that, wouldn't you do something about it? You say you have good relationship with your ITM and communicate with them prior to that. Didn't you relay your concern? That is right. In the morning, then I know.

1:21:22

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

We are not going to immediately hire a vendor at that time.

1:21:52

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

We are not going to hire only because of the issues with the payment and the responsibility. There is a technical risk which is justified and there is also a risk on

1:22:16

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

this thing or the payment. Yes, the commercials. But you know why it was not that? Why is that a payment issue with us? We want to keep the cost, bear the cost. They want us to bear the cost. And then, we don't want to get rid of them. We want the cost to bear by them. I think they want secondary. Because when it was configured, when it was added, it's just a matter of click on the button, whatever. It's still set.

1:22:40

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

But if someone is touching whatever configuration, I would have been very concerned because neither MTS would be there. So with this statement, it has no meaning.

1:23:08

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Because the word statement here, proceeding with that proper skillset L3 would have introduced unnecessary operational risk. Right. So this afternoon, there's a vision made on pukul 9 pukul 9 pula. Sorry, tadi you contacted one row. Sorry, I contacted them both. You called both of them, right? Can you show another one? Because you can track Azam on 15, I'm sure you can track them.

1:24:06

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Is Azam a witness? Yes. On your side, you do. Patin just, you don't have to contact you with Patin. But you don't have to contact you with Patin.

1:24:41

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

most of the reason you're supposed to be on your phone you're not being physical and you only left everyone options if you're not with your phone 20 part how do you expect you clearly said

1:25:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Azam is not competent. He also clearly said, not at 14 level to know certain information. So naturally, it has to fall on you, right? But at that time, the station is really not clear. Is there help? Master Tukil tak tahu really what is actually happening. Betul, okay. Then we assess for the issue of this.

1:25:21

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, let's do more detail. To me, someone is going into the warehouse, taking in information or do whatever. To you, they just come here to assess. Be it assessment, be it configuration, be it network. But touching something without your presence, except with Azam, which is less competent, that worries me. So, I will use whatever it takes in my power, if it's me. I'm just saying, sorry.

1:25:49

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

would have called the hate of the other side of your attempt to then say, can I know exactly what you guys think then? If you wish to do it, so you're aware you will not be there, I'm not going to be there. The skill set guy is not going to be there. What you guys are trying to do. Get that bottom line first, at least everyone is in the same place. But that has not been there. Do you understand that part? That's it. We don't want to say we're going to improv to 8 p.m. Between 8 p.m. to 8 p.m. you have over 12 hours period to stop things from happening.

1:26:25

S… Speaker 4 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

if it's that risky, for all you know, they don't know what they're doing. Coming back, what can we define as success on the DT? You don't set expectations with customer. If I can see the show course later, you can write, what can I do to complete the configuration work as planned.

1:26:58

S… Speaker 4 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

definition lah. Sebenarnya, you kena buat something as planned. Sebab you are saying, takde. Tapi you pun macam Madam Chairman tanya, you pun tak cakap, tak discuss dengan UITMF on what's supposed to be... For example, before you nak go offline, you call UITM ke? Macam mana? Everything so far okay ke? Haa, contoh. Takde. Sebab you cakap dengan Azam, tomorrow lah kan? Betul? Tapi you ada cakap tu dengan UITM, on that day. Saya tak ingat. Tapi usually memang saya akan

1:27:32

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

One thing Azam, you as a hit, I think Azamu had a maintenance? Azamu had a maintenance. Azamu had a maintenance. Oh. Azamu had a maintenance. Bila you nampak 15, you had a maintenance. As a hit, 16, he had a maintenance. You had a maintenance. You didn't feel like you had a maintenance. But I think he had a maintenance at 15.

1:28:04

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

to be 16 to 17. 17 pun tak turun. 16 pun tak turun. Okay. Memang rasa that one can be done remotely. Yes. Walaupun 6-6 bulan tu tak siap juga. You may not have pleasure to be 17. Tak turun dah lah. Because masa kita check dengan attractor tu, dia kata dia pun takkan ada sana then.

1:28:29

S… Speaker 5 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

and that's why I was studying at the time, so that's why I told you.

1:28:40

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Don't mind. So I believe that you have to address the charges on up until fall. Up until fall. Because of, seems like this, it's like they've already got all the charges, all the explanation. I wanted to know how he, so actually 16, he didn't have to say anything. What exactly happened on 16? Who actually called MTS when MTS was able to address the call to fundamental? Okay, how about the decision? You made it slow. Yeah, this is the mirror to MTS.

1:29:14

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

which is there's a communication in the morning. So, we request, and then we create a communication. We create for 2.19. So, at this time, at this time, this time, we have called and been told to support. So, we arrange. And at this time, it's about, it's about, it's about, it's about, it's about, it's about, it's about.

1:29:58

S… Speaker 6 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So we should...

1:30:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

He still has a safe time. He is 16 years old. Based on the information that we gathered on the 15th. Can I echo for your explanation? Can you turn to pitch D7? Because I've already mentioned about your English string and MTIs. A little bit conflict I would say that on D7.

1:30:34

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Azam communicate with MTS. Azam communicate with MTS. What time? Usually, we will communicate. Because the PIC, it doesn't sign. When we press the report, then body will sign. Just walk through. Hello.

1:31:14

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So call 1 didn't set up on 15. So call 1 didn't set up on 15. So call 1 didn't set up on 15. So call 1 didn't set up on 15. So call 1 didn't set up on 15. Sorry sorry, call 2 didn't set up on 15. So call 1 didn't set up on 15. So call 1 didn't set up on 15.

1:31:49

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, there are suggestions to go to MyRenee because we have to go to MyRenee before the 19th month. 19th month, all campus will go to MyRenee. And for Metro E, we will remove on 30th month. So, if MyRenee doesn't go to MyRenee, one campus doesn't have internet by first.

1:32:19

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Which is, it's not agile. It's not agile, that's why we don't think.

1:32:47

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Then, if your job is not ready, MTS must be finished. Then, arrange it with MTS. Thank you, Azam. Then, Azam takes it back to the link. He says, I think it's better to just up time to call 1. So, take back my rent from call 2 to call 1.

1:33:13

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

First, call 2 memang tak link dengan call 1. Second, nanti 26 hari bulan, call 2 akan take off dulu untuk projek MRF. Third, kita linkkan call 1 and 2, dia dah tukar Huawei nanti je. And then, Cik Dini reply, okay, cuma kita perlukan support oleh Sya'alam lagi atau boleh settle sendiri. So, saya yang wiki dengan Sya'alam.

1:33:41

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

We can do it on our own. We can do it on our own. We can do it on our own. We can do it on our own.

1:34:28

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Walaupun it's because it's guided by a contractor. As per the mention, we have justified that this activity is not true for us. That's why we don't go to the Raya Mazza. So, we have a plan for this year. We want to make a positive shape. So, that's why I really want to make the idea of the Raya Mazza. Because for the Raya Mazza, the capacity of the Raya Mazza is really big.

1:34:58

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So...

1:35:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

And the Uptime is very high because of the internet. The internet is not a problem. So, I want to be able to do it. So, you didn't go back to evidence? After you were able to do the MTNs, then what happened? Then they were assigned for Shafiq. Shafiq is in contact with Azraq. So, there is communication with Shafiq. Therefore, what is Shafiq? Shafiq is Shafiq.

1:35:37

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

No, we're thinking about MTS. But in the near forward field, it's the revelation of Adam's theory. Because your statement in the show course, when you reply, MTS deployed a remote L3 engineer while Azam executed on site. How do you establish that? And then, in the 16th century, in the 17th century, he also did the work for 86 years. So, in the 17th century, he did the work for 86 years. So, in the 17th century, he did the work for 87 years. He did the work for 86 years.

1:36:23

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, you hantar email to Adoya, Adoya is the account manager from MTS. So, it's the account manager from MTS. So, 16-bulan, you hantar email to MTS proposal, 2-hutang. Yeah. Why do you have 2-hutang? Bukan. But, pagi tu dah tahu the problem. Kata-kata pagi tu, I had a meeting. So, I had to attend meeting. So, that's why it's afternoon, pukul 11. Pukul free sikit, then I...

1:37:14

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I just said that I will give you extra petition charges time when it comes. I want to see conclusion. Because as a head, you should know it's concluded. Your statement here, the issue was successfully resolved after share Shafiq. Shafiq Rutan on top of yang tadi, the forwarder.

1:38:50

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

1st major, configure course switch Okay, it's out of scope and meeting call 11.32 petang. Tadi you answer Cik Harim, selepas 6.06 baru boleh buat kerja? Ya, it's on 17. They conclude, which is mean after we settle. Okay, on 16 pun tak settle lah. On 16. Is there any work on 16? On 16 ada. So, pukul 6, they're all becaya buat apa? 16.11? On 16, after 6, they settle. Then, 17, they don't have activity.

1:39:21

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

17, we just conclude. So, MTS datang, 16, dia tak update juga lah. 16, I think, send me. Tadi email at you to get 17. So, after? Sebab dia proceed. After late night, kan? So, dia 8 bagi dia. 8 bagi of 17, dia update yang 16, 10, 10, 10. 16. 16. 16. 16. 16. 16. 16.

1:40:09

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

with a zoom. So, it's settled. It's settled. It's settled. It's settled. It's settled. It's settled. It's settled. So, it's settled. It's settled. So, it's settled. It's settled. Oh, no. It's settled. Sorry. Malam. It's not me. I'm sorry. It's settled.

1:40:28

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

This one, yes. So, which is 15th? 16 September. Thank you, Azam. Salam. That's what it's done, but it's not after the call to username. This is not MTS. Azam. You're talking about as call 1. You have a issue, right? Okay. Yang Kit, you address MTS on the email on 2. So, my question is... Now, so, MTS is already on board on 16. This conversation is pagi. It's not longer about MTS.

1:40:56

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Did you follow up what MTS has done after you've got email name? Okay, did you then communicate with Azam? Do you know what's happening? Okay, then kita tengok. So, Azam, you have access to Azam and everything. So, I just follow her. Sorry, but I cannot see everything, I don't want to ask her to ask her to ask her to ask her to ask her to ask her to ask her to ask her to ask her to ask her to ask her to ask her to ask her to ask her

1:41:35

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

MTS minta 4K for the night. Okay, I'm just reading out. Okay, 5.12 pagi, they message, thank you Azam. Then Azam reply, salam, yang itu dah settle. Itu 16 hari bulan untuk kuaman, untuk 15 hari bulan punya.

1:41:52

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Cuma tak lepas masuk Q2 username dengan password. Tak lepas dengan dalam master checklist. Q2 username memang dah tak boleh masuk. That's why he replied. That is 9.40. Two hours after. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16. After 16

1:42:18

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Right, but the response, he replied. The first time he can call your ITM, he said that he came back to the night because the migration was failed. So, he wanted to see the standby at the night that he can configure the core switch and access the core switch because it was pending for the configuration of the core switch. Then, Dini called, 3 minutes he said, So, at the night, Shafiq remote? Azam asked back. He replied, remote. Okay, then we will contact Azam.

1:42:47

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

That's what he replied. Okay, noted Encik Dini. That is pukul 5 petang. Tapi on the other side of spectrum, he actually launched proper report. MTS. So, assumably, they marry lah the information because this is coming malam tu. No, this is going to be online. Kalau dia bantu, kita perlukan support lagi tak? He asked. Pukul 5.57 malam. Kalau tak perlu, kita cancel GMTS ni sebab ada cost juga ni.

1:43:15

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, what did he say? He said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said,

1:43:52

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, when the MTS does not have a conclusion, then you go back to your statement, we all want to communicate with each other. How do you then conclude that the MTS is actually on board to help? Or you really expect that they will not be able to help because you don't pay $4,000? I'm just a problem.

1:44:24

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, I didn't ask. Last conversation is 6.20. They're about to start 10. There was no conversation with you and Azam until 19 December. Question, neither do you contact Azam to ask for an update, nor do you contact MTS. Okay, that's the thing.

1:44:58

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

If you're not consistent, on one hand you...

1:45:00

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

You don't want to bug them. On the other hand, you don't want to bug Shafiq. You want to kacau Azam because Azam is our team. Where is your communication to show that you actually exercise? That you actually trying to know what is happening in this team? Yes, I contacted Shafiq. You don't contact Azam. You don't contact Azam. Azam is our people. Shafiq is our team. Shafiq is our team. Shafiq is our team. Shafiq is our team. Shafiq is our team. Shafiq is our team. Shafiq is our team. Shafiq is our team. Shafiq is our team. Shafiq is our team. Shafiq is our team. Shafiq is our team. Shafiq is our team. Shafiq is our team. Shafiq is our team. Shafiq is our team. Shafiq

1:45:48

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, to get updated for details because I'm aware Azam is on L3, so that's why I contact Yafiq also. So, they want to be more clear about the technical part. So, then they reply, and then they reply. So, they reply, and then they reply. So, they reply. 16, I think I'm already Azam. So, 17. Siapa? Dining Azam?

1:46:15

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

The last correspondent is pukul enam-pukul. There was no correspondent at all. Except that they had a conversation. Salam untuk migration. Semalam masih lagi fail. Sebab Q1 tak dapat nak up-upkan Myron selepas masa. This is WhatsApp kan? Daripada ITC. This one I think... This is not the statement. Not a line. You forwarded this from whom? This from Azam.

1:46:52

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

That means, for early 16, we don't have the definition of what is supposed to be done in 2016 as far as the client's expectation. The client's expectation is to migrate. So on 16... The client's expectation is to migrate. So why when do you accept that client's expectation is not met? On 16, when Azam mentioned it in the morning. So it is not met?

1:47:24

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

On the 16th year? 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th year 16th

1:48:04

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Ultimately, do you know what the client wants to happen on 15, 16, 17? And then, what is their expectation to happen? And then, is it done or not done? And then, when the client tahu or not, isn't that how you manage the client? So, do you know? But I believe I baca ni macam, as many times.

1:48:36

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I don't know what your client wants to be done. But you don't contact UITM, right? Yeah, communicate to Azam.

1:49:14

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I want to try to simplify it a little bit meaning that there are 3 or 4 parts of it. Client, HQ, RITM and MTS. MTS is also included in the door. But the most important thing is to establish. Technically this is critical, like mission critical task. If mission critical task, we have specific objective. It could be by hour, it could be by day, it could be by midnight, whatever.

1:49:44

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Do we establish that or not, for 3 days? Then can you report what they want to achieve and every night we achieve how many percent we can achieve.

1:50:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

There's a spot on the third two. I want to see if you want to see it. We don't have a phone. We don't have a phone. We have a phone call. We have a phone call on the 15th. 15th, what do you want? Do you know? What do you want? 15th, I want to increase the migration. Sorry, I want to increase my hand.

1:50:30

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, did they want Apple? Yes, for Core 1 So, they want to buy my rent for Core 1 or Core 2? Eh, they... I don't know. Either one. Either one. So... Where do you know? Either one? Yeah. Eh, because we have a sister in Pras Raja. Is that she? So, either one for okay? Yeah. So, either one for okay? I don't know.

1:50:59

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Sebenarnya, dia nak buat 15 bulan itu. Betul. Tapi kalau 15 bulan itu gagal, dia jadi gagal diri 16-17. Betul. Dan kita tak dapat buat sebab 15 bulan itu, ini saja kita nak samurasi kerja. Kita tak dapat buat sebab apa ya? 15 bulan itu because the UITM site is not ready.

1:51:19

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Then the remote site is not ready. Bila the test to fail. But when they reconfigure, that is why they are able to solve the issue. That is why they are able to solve the issue. That is why we are able to solve the issue. That is why we are able to solve the issue. That is why we are able to solve the issue. That is why we are able to solve the issue. That is why we are able to solve the issue. That is why we are able to solve the issue. That is why we are able to solve the issue. That is why we are able to solve the issue. That is why we are able to solve the issue. That is why we are able to solve the issue. That is why we are able to solve the issue. That is why we are able to solve the issue. That is why we are able to solve the issue. That is why we are able to solve the issue. That is why we are able to solve the issue. That is why we are able to solve the issue. That is why we

1:51:46

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

We have completed. We have completed. We have completed. We have completed. We have completed. We have completed. We have completed. We have completed. We have completed. We have completed. We have completed. We have completed. We have completed.

1:52:06

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

You got to know about this one. 8 Pagi. 8 Pagi. 8 Pagi. 8 Pagi. 5 Pagi. 16 Pagi. 16 Pagi. 16 Pagi. 16 Pagi. 16 Pagi. 16 Pagi. 16 Pagi. 16 Pagi. 16 Pagi. 16 Pagi. 16 Pagi. 16 Pagi. 16 Pagi. 16 Pagi. 16 Pagi. 16 Pagi.

1:52:33

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Malam 16? I too want to tell you too. Do you know? Are you aware? Yes, I'm aware. And also for our site, there's also the needs to verify what has been done on 15. Siapa nak verify? The FTS. FTS is the computer. Okay, it'll move one by one. So as far as 15 as a bulan, you taro the next day, morning, settle.

1:53:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

as far as you know and then you are saying you don't respond to cool supplies because as far as you know, it doesn't have any issues anymore and you don't see this as a high risk area within our capabilities I'm trying to understand you don't have to communicate with Azam on the 15th

1:53:28

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Pagi in the morning. Pagi in the morning? Oh, in the morning? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

1:53:59

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

And also, because they claim Azamun told us that there was an issue that he didn't get it. So from there, I can see that it was a lot of issues. It was a lot of issues, but he said it was a lot of issues. It was a lot of issues. Why is that a lot of issues? Madam Chairman, so if you guys allow, do you mind if I recall the witness so that we can testify?

1:54:32

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Good words. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. Just to echo to the... ITC, ICT group. You are in the group. Consisting your ITM crowd. Sir, your question tadi, the topic of eating coffee. I am just concerned that you seem to imagine things like...

1:55:00

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

All are ready. All are small things. That's the biggest concern of your statement. But when you confirm the ICT concessory UITM, you are in the group. In the document, it says on 16 December, Hazrin, UITM. During the time of migration, they did a call switch-2 because they didn't have access to a password for the call switch-2. Call switch-2, right? In the morning, the team will come back. So, you are not only involving four teams, you are going to have the fifth team, which is UITM.

1:55:34

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, coming back to my question, I just take property from him. He said that for 15 months, if one is going to happen, it would be good. So, what would you say about that? Because of UITM, they are not aware of how it works. So, they are not connected to the same.

1:55:55

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, there is something that you need to find out. Okay, hold on, hold on. That is a statement from today.

1:56:22

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

you didn't complete on the other side of the spectrum, you actually contacted an MTS, pukul 11, 14 times. Before even this message datang, you are fully aware things are not complete, otherwise you wouldn't contact MTS. You understand? This is a matter of action. So in terms of contact, you knew that complete, hence why you asked for a second pipeline of help. MTS, please come. Then MTS, please group the query, send through email. So you send through email.

1:56:51

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

What I'm trying to say is, in a nutshell, what you said just now is not true. Because by conduct, you also asked for help. MTS must come back to assist on the issue lagi. Then it goes to this statement that migrasi akan continue pukul 16 hari bulan, pukul 6-11 malam. Jadi, tanpa di WhatsApp masuk pun, you dah. You dah boleh letak centre. But they didn't mention QSW1 yet. They mentioned QSW2. QSW1 is a new time.

1:57:22

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So we hire MTS is to verify on the Core Switch 1. Core Switch 2 issue will relate to password and everything. Your statement in email in verbal team. Currently your ITM is migrating to migrant. Seek your support to configure Core Switch. So the intention is not for verification. Configuration is general terms. When it says configuration, that's important for verification.

1:57:57

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Because Amy can't put words in his email. The conversation is the activities that we call the configuration activities. Is that clear? That answer your question, Sam? I'm a genius-genius visual, so... I'm going to ask the prosecutor about it. Actually, we have to be very clear on the future. It's either the prosecutor or you. It's factual.

1:59:11

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I think I will communicate directly with you

1:59:16

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So far, based on the evidence of the military franchise, I don't have a combination with them. So, I assume that I don't think so. So, maybe if I can think of them. So, maybe if I can think of them. Then, when did you contact me at the 19th century? 3 days ago? After, I think, 19. 19? 19. So, when did you contact me at the 19th century?

1:59:41

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

They all have passed the thing that has settled. So, they have passed and we focus on the migration, sorry, on the for switch activities. Because, the activities are the migration for switch 2. It is just a part of a chunk of the activities.

2:00:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

It's for Malaysian, Milan, Co1 and Co2. It's objective. Malayah, it's objective. But Co2 is not going to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able

2:00:23

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So basically, kalau satu pun dah ni, kita dah boleh up kan the system. So there is a justification yang kita dah buat lah. Sebab apa kita tahu, the issue with Core 2 ni. Core 2 ni satu, dia tak link kan. Ni juga teknikal lah. Itulah Sujian nak tanya tu. How critical is Core 2 ni? Dia kena critical. Jadi maknanya on the 6th and 17th tu pun.

2:00:44

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Call 2 is not a member. Just call 1. Yeah, MTS is a member of the 60 to verify call 1. It is a member of the 15. So call 2 until 17 is not a member of the call. So call 2 until 17 is not a member of the call. So we are talking about call 1. Because call 2 is one thing.

2:01:09

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

They have to provide an uplink cable from the router to the core switch. That's why they have to provide the ATM. But now, the ATM doesn't provide the answer. So we are talking about CO1, CO2A.

2:01:29

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So we can correct me by brown, what do we need to call it? Actually, I think both of them can be jawed at the same time. We can talk about the directive. Charges are not complete or not, results or not, but it's more on

2:01:50

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

failure to technical oversight, conduct, leadership, support, etc. So, I do understand panel's direction to faham the overall context so that you can relate to what we have been charged with. So, that's why to testify what Encik Nimi said earlier, probably we can ask the people that are here, Terazi and Musso, so that we can align together with the charges that are just needed.

2:02:18

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

My last question. Kenapa you can panggil MTS to verify? Just verify. Undead lah. Kenapa nak bayar RM4,000 just to verify? Dia remote lah tu. Kenapa tu? The initial corporation was made by MTS. Masa 16 bulan tu, corporation was made by MTS. That's why kita panggil MTS tadi.

2:02:37

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

to complete the job. Maksudnya, kawan tak complete dah? Oh, itulah saya nak tanya. Kawan masa 16 bulan tu, dia tak complete due to UITF site not ready. Okay, takpe. Itu UITF site lah. Tapi kenapa awak kena panggil FTS? Kalau dia tak panggil, tak boleh apa? Itulah. Based on justification, 9 hari bulan dengan Azam, which is Azam tak boleh verify. Azam dah cuba to verify, tapi Azam tak boleh. So, when he mention, dia kata kena tambah appropriation, then I already know.

2:03:05

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Azam, dia dah lost. So, it is where... Kena tambah verification. Yes. UITM the requirement. Right. So, that means you identify that on the 15 card you cakap tadi. 15 hari bulan malam tu, you dah tahu you kena panggil MTS lah. So, Azam dah... Azam dah tak tahu apa yang sebenarnya dia kena buat ni. Ni sebabnya lemak ni. Yang UITM tahu dia tak ada juga apa dia panggil untuk migration. Sorry. UITM tak ada juga.

2:03:34

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Why do they want to do this for Malaysia? I don't think it's a mistake. I don't think it's a mistake. We still try to communicate.

2:04:07

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, we will settle and you guys can ask for witness first. At the same time, we will settle witness first. So, we will also ask for witness first. So, same pose to Azam and to the other one. So, we will be able to circle with you. Thank you. You can ask Christine to make it.

2:04:37

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

But he's going to be angry He's going to be angry

2:06:05

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I'm not asking you to do it. You have to arrange after company business? If it's very quick, then you can do it. No, no. That's it. You enough, yes or no? Yes.

2:06:26

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So I'm afraid that he's not really paid because he's always... I said it's okay. It's okay. It's okay. Rated or not, it's your call to call the members. So we want to fare here.

2:10:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Let me give you two minutes in a second. Here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here,

2:12:01

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

It's our chairman! It's the beginning! It's the beginning! It's the beginning! It's the beginning! It's the beginning! It's the beginning! It's the beginning! It's the beginning! It's the beginning! It's the beginning! It's the beginning! It's the beginning! My name is chairman! Allow me! Okay! Alright! So, Shirazif, you are here as a witness in domestic inquiry. You are required to answer all questions truthfully and based on your own knowledge. Okay? Do you understand?

2:13:17

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

First question, what is your role in relation to this matter?

2:14:40

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, during that time, during that time, during that time,

2:15:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Halfway, halfway, halfway, halfway. As a people eye, he said, boss, I don't want to see him. Okay, okay. So, he said, what about my day? He said, what about my day? He said, what about my day? He said, what about my day? He said, what about my day? He said, what about my day? He said, what about my day? He said, what about my day? He said, what about my day? He said, what about my day?

2:15:28

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

He was a son-son-son, he told me that he didn't make up. And there were a lot of problems that happened at that time. They were forced to solve it for themselves, to find themselves, to check themselves. Then at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time, at that time,

2:15:58

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, I said, I said, I'm the survivor, I just need to monitor it. If that's what I need, I need to get an HQ. So, they told me, they told me, they told me, they told me, they told me, they told me, they told me, they told me, they told me, they told me, they told me, they told me.

2:16:12

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

It should be UNTM also felt that he didn't know why. Who is UNTM? UNTM, IT is UNTM. It is UNTM. It is UNTM. It is UNTM. It is UNTM. It is UNTM. It is UNTM. It is UNTM. It is UNTM. It is UNTM. It is UNTM. It is UNTM. It is UNTM. It is UNTM. It is UNTM. It is UNTM. It is UNTM. It is UNTM. It is UNTM. It is UNTM. It is UNTM. It is UNTM.

2:16:42

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Barulah diorang buka, diorang punya sejarah, diorang kata sepatutnya kita punya organisation dekat sini yang ruffler ataupun UISP kena hantar adalah executive level. Bukan supervisor level. Kalau tengok daripada carta tu pun executive level. That's why diorang tuntut executive level dekat sana. Kita dekat sana executive level tak ada. Untuk IT. Tapi untuk mekanical.

2:17:04

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Civic, there is executive level. But IT doesn't have. We only have supervisor. And we are remote from HQ. I understand that we are remote from HQ. So, that's why I said, oh, like this, it's hard if there is a CITM, such as Marahan or Post-Cyber. Maybe they are okay. It's remote. So, they don't want. If they want executive level, there is a CITM. Because they say, in the chart, the executive level, there is a CITM. If they want to go to HQ, they can go to the CITM.

2:17:34

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, if we can get to the exit, we can get to the exit. If we can get to the exit, we can get to the exit exit exit exit exit exit exit exit exit exit exit exit exit exit exit exit exit exit exit exit exit

2:18:02

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Because there is a server that needs to take care of it

2:18:06

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

That's right. So, when it comes to IT, I will tell you how to do it. If you want to do it, you have to do it. If you want to do it, you have to do it. If you want to do it, you have to do it. If you want to do it, you have to do it. If you want to do it, you have to do it. If you want to do it, you have to do it. If you want to do it, you have to do it. If you want to do it, you have to do it. If you want to do it, you have to do it. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right.

2:18:38

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

The hierarchy, they... They say they buy it, and the contract is under it. Yes, they have a executive IT. You happen to have that? No, it's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not.

2:19:08

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

We can not even, it is PNC, but because the way they mention it, benda tu should have been contracted for. So naturally, if I was sitting in here, I would say, oh, same up, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul, betul,

2:19:31

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Maybe it's because we have one level in HQ. That HQ is possible. But on the contract said, they said that all side things need to decide. They said that all side things need to decide. They said that all side things need to decide. They said that all side things need to decide. They said that all side things need to decide. They said that they didn't want to go to HQ. They said that they didn't want to go to HQ. They said that they didn't want to go to HQ. They said that they didn't want to go to HQ. They didn't want to go to HQ.

2:20:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

When they were in Kauasa 43A, they were in Kauasa 1. All of the corporations needed to decide. With the permission to be able to get out. So, if I want to get out, I want to get out. I want to get out. I want to add a little bit. I want to add a little bit. You have a relationship with... I want to get out of here. I want to get out of here. I want to get out of here.

2:20:25

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

How is the relationship between the two and the two? Okay, good. Just WhatsApp you okay? Okay, okay. Just WhatsApp you. Cuma dia, dia kena maklum. So, when we came, we didn't make it. So, when we were looking at the HQ meeting. But, Razif, back to HQ IT, even in TWSB, in contract, we have a planner. We have a planner. We have a planner. But this is the creativity of the...

2:20:53

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

the PM or the, which is share, and I project, all share-share with HQ. As long as that problem. That's not the problem. But it's not the problem. But it's not the problem. It's not the problem. When they get out of it, we become a staff. When they get out of it, we become a staff. When they get out of it, we become a staff. And they say, all staff should decide. And now we don't have executive IT.

2:21:22

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Bila you nak masuk to executive. Sebab dia kata dia akan bring this issue. Kalau tak boleh selesa kat cawangan, dia akan bawa ke lebih tinggi. Untuk dapatkan executive IT di Rauh. Soalan. Isu yang dia kata bring forward to executive after this. Ha, after this lah. Sebab dia kata bila berlaku benda ni, should be tak ada orang yang responsible, tak ada executive IT yang executive patut berada di situ. That's why bila berlaku, dia tak nak lagi jadi lagi.

2:21:48

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Then, my revenue pun kita nak lawan juga sebab ini adalah perubahan daripada asal.

2:21:55

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

because it is configured new. So, we say that we maintain what we have. Then, when the Kerajaan and Pesekutuan want to use a new one, we must configure it again. So, why don't we pay the cost? I don't want to pay the cost, but IT is untung. So, we need to provide the cost first. We need to pay the cost first, but we need to pay the cost first. So, we need to pay the cost first.

2:22:20

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

It doesn't exist because we only have to pay for it. As long as you have to pay for it, you have to pay for it. You have to pay for it. But if you have to pay for it, you have to pay for it. But if you have to pay for it, you have to pay for it. But if you have to pay for it, you have to pay for it. I just want to mention that you have given us a report on 29 January 2006. So, can you confirm if you are prepared?

2:22:48

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Yeah, that's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right.

2:23:17

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I have a question. First one is your statement. What is related to IT? You will communicate at the meeting with you.

2:23:28

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

For the 15th to 17th of July, February, December, do you have communicated with this meeting? Or is it an ad hoc email that is received from you from 8.30 p.m. 15th of July? Do you have ad hoc decision from Yadiyah? Okay, he has brought the issue to the meeting

2:23:57

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

technical, but he doesn't have date yet. He said, we will have a configuration of my rent. He said, we will have a configuration of my rent. He said, we will have a configuration of my rent. He said, but he doesn't have it yet. After that, he emailed to us. He said, okay. When he emailed us, he needed to do where. He needed to arrange. He needed to arrange to come. But he gave it to Fatim, but he came to do a discussion. So, I talked about the discussion. Everything is done. So, he needed to do a discussion. So, he needed to do a discussion. So, he needed to do a discussion.

2:24:26

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Fatih is on the other side, but it's not for the activity, but in fact, Fatih is on the other side. It's not for the activity, but in fact, Fatih is on the other side. It's not for the activity, but in fact, Fatih is on the other side. It's not for the activity, but in fact, Fatih is on the other side.

2:24:45

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

The first statement you mentioned tadi, you have no idea what is happening until 16 because I've talked to you. 16. 16. 16. 16. 16. 16. 16. 16. 16. 16. 16. 16. 16. 16.

2:25:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Configuration. Configuration tu, saya tahu tak buat.

2:25:03

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Now, I know that you want to do that. I know that you want to do that. I know that you want to do that. But it's not the date. It's not the date. It's not the date. It's not the date. It's not the date. Because they are trying to explain to you. In the first line statement that you said, I don't know what Azam told you because he didn't get 16 days later. I don't know why it was 16 days later. 15 days later. Because in email, your name is not. So, you do not receive that email. Nama Fatim is not. So, Fatim did not receive that email. So, the only person in email is...

2:25:32

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Azab. So, is it true or not that you don't know that 15 days ago there is a configuration? I know that configuration is going to happen at that time, that day. Oh, you don't know? I don't know. But I don't know if the executive is there. Okay. How do you know? Azab told me.

2:25:54

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Okay, you know 15 because Azam is 16. So, when you come to 4 months, do you know that Azam has been well printed? Yes, I know. I know 4 months. Then, I don't know if it's enough to be in the level of Azam or need to be in SQIT. When it's SQIT, I don't know if it's SQIT. I don't know if it's SQIT.

2:26:23

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Not for everyone. So I said, okay, Azam lah. I said, Azam, everything is okay, you have to communicate. Okay, okay, okay. So, Fatih pun datang waktu itu, ada-ada-ada, buat discussion dan semua. So, I told everything is ready lah. So, mungkin Azam pun dah tahu, Azam pun dah tahu. So, I said, siapa yang nak perlu ada? Cukup untuk Azam sahajakah? Sampailah benda itu dah berlaku, congregation apa semua, dah ada masalah, selesai masalah semua, Azam jumpa saya, dia belum akal, saya tak berhati dia. Okay, saya stop kat situ. Tadi you kata, 6-9 baru tahu ada congregation.

2:26:53

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

You know, when Azam asked. 15 months later, you saw Fatin was in the site and he had to communicate with Azam. He went to the site for work, but I saw that meeting for my rent had to get invitation to Azrin. Okay. You know, 16 to 15.

2:27:22

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

That date is what I'm sure. I can see what date is. About 15 months, in the morning, 9.30pm, I was able to do it. And I was able to do it after 6.00pm. So, at 9.00pm to 6.00pm, I was able to do it. I was able to do it after 15.00pm. I was able to do it after 15.00pm.

2:27:49

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, one thing is statement that you might say that you might have a conversation about migration. So, you might have a blind eye. Can you see that?

2:28:51

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So your knowledge comes from Azam? Yes, from Azam.

2:29:36

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, I was like, okay, I had a conversation. So, I had a conversation. So, during the execution work that I didn't know that there was a executive. So, I said, that's settled. Alzam told me that this was the issue. He said, that's why we need executive from here. If not, it was the first thing he said.

2:30:01

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

That's why we want to execute here. Because we switchers with server we are very important. They want to do it in 50 months.

2:30:11

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

You, you, as long as you said, you've been in the last few months. I mean, in the last few months, you said that you had to talk about Fatin and... So, before that, they had to talk about when and when. But I saw that Fatin was in the last few months. After that, they had to be aware of it. They had to be aware of it. They had to be aware of it. They had to be aware of it. So, I have to answer the question. So, I have to answer the question. What is your question? What is your question? What is your question?

2:30:39

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

with Dini and team. So, for migration, if they don't know if they have a conversation before. They don't know when they want to talk about it. There is a conversation, but I just mentioned to Dini and he said, okay, UITM has done everything. So, they have to aware of it. But there is a conversation for...

2:31:08

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Number two, are you aware that Azam is a well-trained, from the 10th century, to make migration, although he is a supervisor? That's why I didn't know. When I was in IT, when I was in IT, it should be that I would see it as a executive level. Because it is a IT.

2:31:37

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, maybe they're like a choice. I'm very friendly with Encik Ali Dato. First, is it for you Azzam is well trained? Yes or not? Okay. But when he was a teacher, he gave me a passport since 2010. Is it you aware of it? I don't know. Because when he came to me, he told me that he was like a toy.

2:32:05

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, when I look at the audience, I say, oh, it's the level here. Okay, so you can see it. Then you can expect the level here. So, the email to you, the 11th Januari, you follow what you want to do? Yes, I can tell you what they want to do.

2:32:34

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Dini? Sorry, IT-IT. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. So, I just impressed her. She said, okay, I want to recognize her. She said, okay, I want to recognize her. She said, okay, I want to recognize her. Okay, so, what do you want to do? Okay, so, what do you want to do? Okay, so, what do you want to do on January? Technically, what do you want to do on January 1st? Yeah, I want to do one. Okay, so, what do you want to do on January 1st? Okay, so, what do you want to do on January 1st? Okay, so, what do you want to do on January 1st? Okay, so, what do you want to do on January 1st

2:33:05

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Okay, now we go to communication response. From your review, what did the communication report show regarding contact with HQ? Where there are attempts to make contact with HQ, are they not based on official Adhan Azam, are they not contact HQ based on your knowledge? Okay. Dari segi dia cerita kat saya tu, dia kata, during the malam yang dia buat communication tu, dia tak ada the master password. So, dia kata, dia try to contact Limi dengan Fatin, tapi tak berangkat, dia kata.

2:33:34

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Sampaikan benda tu terpaksa postpone esok lah. Tulis UITM, kata ok lah kalau tak dapat kita postpone lah esok. Dia aware pukul 9. Sebenarnya lebih dia ada communicate dengan Dini. Dan berjaya. Sampai pukul 9 lebih. Itu saya tak aware lah. Lepas tu sebelah lebih dia mungkin tak dapat konten dengan Dini. Dia berjaya dapat berguna dengan Fatim. Pukul 9 lebih dan ada password. Yang dia kata oh. Dia akan lupa.

2:34:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

That's what I know. He said that he didn't have the password and the password was sent in DHQ. He said that he didn't communicate with it. He said that he didn't communicate with it. He said that he had a call. He said that he had a call. He said that he had a call. He said that he had a call. He said that he had a call. He said that he had a call. He said that he had a call. He said that he had a call. He said that he had a call. He said that he had a call. He said that he had a call. He said that he had a call. He said that he had a call. He said that he had a call. He said that he had a call. He said that he had a call.

2:34:29

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

When did he meet up? When did he meet up? When did he meet up at night? He said that he didn't meet up at night. He said that he didn't meet up at night. He said he didn't meet up at night. He said that he didn't meet up at night. He said that he didn't meet up at night. He said that he didn't meet up at night. He said that he didn't meet up at night. He said that he didn't meet up at night. He said that he didn't meet up at night.

2:34:55

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Why don't we talk like this, like this, like this, like this?

2:35:01

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, when I interview UIDM, I ask that UIDM is because we have dragged to UIDM as long as long as long as long as long as long as long as long as long as long as long as long as long as long as long as long as long as long as long as long as long as long as long as long

2:35:16

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I don't know why it's too long because it's a small issue. Password, configuration, and it's not there. Do you know that the UITM doesn't have delay in the system? That's what I don't know. But what we are saying is that we have to stand by for configuration because they are going to buy it. Do you know that Azam has told us

2:35:45

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

The LATM system is not ready for them. We didn't know that we didn't access them because we didn't have a password. But we didn't have a password. Why did Rosmaria and Hazrin have heard about this? And I know that they had to communicate with Dini at that level.

2:36:20

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Maksudnya, dia ada kopi karya sebelumnya. Haa, dengar dengan adi yang sebelumnya. Haa, kita tahu lah. Cuma diorang merasakan ketidak puan itu sebab executive tak ada kata bau. Haa, diorang dah kenal diri punya, diri punya. Cuma diperlukan adi. Haa, cuma dikata, kalau kita nak maharapkan SQ datang sini, datang sini, macam mana kan? Mungkin sebelum ni diorang, okey. Bila dah sampai ke certain level jurutera yang aware dengan CA ni, bila dah jadi isu besar, sampai ke peringkat diorang, diorang dah tutup dah.

2:36:45

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Okay, so where can we go? We have to go here. We have to go here. We have to go here. We have to go here. We have to go here. So, in the last month, when Azam said, why do they know that they didn't end? Do they know that they didn't end? Do they know that they didn't end? Do they know that they didn't end? Do they know that they didn't end? Do they know that they didn't end?

2:37:12

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

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2:37:34

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Siap tu, date tu saya tak always siap bila lah. Tapi bila siap tu, orang beritahu saya. Dia kata, okay, dah siap tapi boss gini, gini, gini, gini, gini. Saya takde ni, saya kena buat gini, saya kena stay back gini, saya takde ni. Yang detail tu semua tu, order 16. Yeah. Order 16. Date tu yang saya, tapi siap. Dah siap lah. Dah siap, dah siap. Order 17, dah siap. Order 17, dah siap lah. Order 17, dah siap lah. Order 17, dah siap lah. Order 17, dah siap lah. Order 17, dah siap lah. Order 17, dah siap lah. Order 17, dah siap lah.

2:38:02

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

You mentioned that you happen to be excited. Then you visit them to just... I just... Tengok aje. Is that 6th or is that 7th? Itulah. Itulah. Tapi malam.

2:38:14

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I feel like a day before it's ready, 16.00am. So, the very day Azam confess, it's the same day you go check? No, Azam didn't say anything. It's already ready to check at 18.00am. But at 16.00am, I came to look at the other day. But I think that Azam is still doing my rent. I'm going to go to the IT department and see. So, it means Azam talked about the situation at 17.00am, not 17.00am. Yes, it's already ready to check. I feel confident.

2:38:41

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Back in 2016, you didn't know. You didn't know. So, you came back in 2016. Back in 2017, you didn't know. Back in 2017, you didn't know. So, you came back in 2016. Back in 2017, you didn't know. So, you came back in 2016. Back in 2017, you didn't know. So, you came back in 2016. Back in 2017, you didn't know. Back in 2017, you didn't know. Back in 2017. Back in 2017, you didn't know. Back in 2017. Back in 2017, you didn't know. Back in 2017. Back in 2017, you didn't know. Back in 2017. Back in 2017, you didn't know. Back in 2017. Back in 2017, you didn't know. Back in 2017. Back in 2017, you didn't know. Back in 2017. Back in 2017, you didn't know. Back in 2017. Back in 2017, you didn't know. Back in 2017. Back in 2017, you didn't know. Back in 2017. Back in 2017

2:39:12

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Azam is only in the past, in the past 15 and 16, it doesn't have anything to say. But in 16, you can visit Azam. Yes, that's okay. I don't know if it's okay. I don't know if it's okay. So, it's okay. So, it's okay. So, it's okay. Because, before this, Azam and you communicate, is it that they always communicate? Is it that they report? Azam report to me? Direct? Direct. So, it's okay.

2:39:39

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Update ke apa-apa? Update. Update. Update. Update. Yang ini dia senyap lah. Yang ini dia update. Tapi lepas. Dia tak update. Asa lepas lah. Maksudnya dia tak update on the... Progress. Progress lah. Sebelum ni. Kayfiz sebelum ni. Macam dia punya everyday punya ni. Dia ada kerja dia ada update ke? Update. Dia update. Okay. Apa-apa nak buat. Apa masalah semua. Yang ini dia tak ada update.

2:40:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Bila dia hit the wall, dia tak boleh. Maksudnya dia, dia ambil tanpa jawab tu buat. Dia tak beritahu saya pun, dia bukan, bukan saya punya jurorskop. Jadi sepatutnya gini. Wimbos kena panggung dengan saya. Cuma dia bila, bila dia buat. Dia pergi, dia buat. Bila dia luar perasaan tu, sepatutnya ni, awak boleh buat atau tak buat. Kata boleh. Tapi sepatutnya kena ada monitoring daripada HQ lah. Ada kat situ.

2:40:25

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, you didn't contact IT, call soft, you didn't do anything? I didn't do anything, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one

2:40:45

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

IT tolong back up? Sebelum ni, I had a telephone. Lepas tu, bila saya tengok macam kita kena buat propo ke email. Maknanya IT tak akan pergi pada badan dia? Tak, tak, tak. Okay. Ada, ada... For request lah. When you kata, propo tu buat email pada propo? Ada phone ke... Email, email lah. So long as anything for email. Ha, email lah. Sebab dia pun cakap kalau boleh email lah. At least, kita ada record. Sebab saya ingat macam dia pun jaga kerau, saya pengen call je.

2:41:14

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

2:41:38

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So you don't know who has ID team? I don't know, but I don't know who has ID team has to do it. I don't know, but I don't know who has ID team has to do it. But I don't know who has ID team has to do it. I don't know who has ID team has to do it. But I don't know who has ID team has to do it. I don't know who has ID team has to do it. I don't know who has ID team has to do it.

2:42:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

He said, I'm a supervisor. He said, I'm a supervisor. He said, I have a JIT. He said, I have a JIT. He said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said.

2:42:24

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Okay, I want to talk about that. The UIT Habitat has to have people in TAPAC, which is more than CA. They don't say that they can have people in TAPAC to study in TAPAC.

2:42:40

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, I can see that the comment is not what he said. He said that in his head, if he has executive in his head, the migration should be settled. He said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that he said that

2:43:10

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I don't know. I'm based on... I'm based on the area. I'm based on the area. I'm based on the area. I'm based on the area. I'm based on the area. I'm based on the area. I'm based on the area. I'm based on the area. I'm based on the area. I'm based on the area.

2:43:40

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

But you didn't have any report from Azam in the IT? No, I didn't report it. After that, after that, I went to the UITM, I went to the UITM and I went to the UITM. I went to the UITM and I went to the UITM and I went to the UITM and I went to the UITM and I went to the UITM and I went to the UITM and I went to the UITM and I went to the UITM and I went to the UITM

2:44:10

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Bila tu, a day before Azam luar tu lah. Satu-dua hari lepas Azam luar tu. That's why I had a meeting. And then, dalam meeting tu pun, masa kita, masa saya, apa, bagi tau pasal Myron yang kita tak setuju nak pay tu pun, dua-dua orang pun keluarkan lewat lah. Dua-dua orang pun keluarkan lewat lah. Dua-dua orang dia nak kasih tak puan hati. Approximately 19-20 that tu lah, eh? Okay, yeah, yeah. Tahu tak siapa daripada pihak UIT? Kalau saya tu ada hubungi dengan Encik Azlin. Azlin dengan Rosmarie.

2:44:37

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Azam Rosmangai is proud of IT. I'm proud of them. I'm proud of them. I'm proud of them. I'm proud of them. I'm proud of them. I'm proud of them. I'm proud of them. I'm proud of them. I'm proud of them. I'm proud of them. I'm proud of them.

2:45:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

in HR, in June 29, in June 12. Why do you take the time for June 12? What is the reason? Do you know that Azam is in June 20? No, no, no. I want to give it to you. I want to give it to you. Maybe in the time that I have a lot.

2:45:21

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So I didn't remember that when Myrin came back to the UIDM meeting, I was surprised to see Azam. I wanted to see that Azam had something to do.

2:45:37

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

beyond the scope of work. I want to recognize him. I want to recognize him. He told him that Azam was like this and he was like this. So I want him to recognize him. And I want him to recognize him. If we have executive in there, I want to be executive. So I don't want the issue to be done. So I'm afraid that when you have a discussion on the internet, the impact will be really big.

2:46:06

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

It was written by you or by Azam? No, it was written by you or by Azam. So, it was written by Azam. Azam had copy? Azam, if you look at email, it was written by Azam. No, it was written by Azam. It was written by Azam. It was written by Azam. It was written by Azam.

2:46:38

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

to recognize, to give recognition to Azam. But, there is no support from IT.

2:46:56

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So I'm afraid that when something happens, when something happens, when something happens, when something happens. So I'm afraid that when something happens, the impact is big. And when she doesn't know what happened between 15 and 15 years, or she doesn't know that she has a problem in the morning. If she doesn't know that she doesn't know that she has a problem in the morning. If she doesn't know that she doesn't know that she has a problem in the morning.

2:47:24

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Ataupun satu lagi, migration ni dari tahun awal tapi tak date dah tahu sebab benda ni memang gamun date dah awal Tapi dia tidak pernah discuss dengan Razif untuk get IT support from H2 Cumanya bila saya tanya, okay semuanya get the preparation lah Semua dah okay, tunggu, tunggu, tunggu untuk buat complication, preparation tu saya nampak dah ada yang laku Tapi bila terjadi kat tempat tu, sebaliknya

2:47:55

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

That's why I feel like, oh, it's not like this. If we don't have support from the HQ, we have to make support. We don't have to leave. So, I feel like we don't leave it like that. It's really bad. And IT has a big impact on all of us. And I feel like it's 3 days after that. They also have to stay in the morning, in the morning. But if they don't have to stay in the morning, it's the same as tomorrow. So, I feel like they have to stay in the morning. They have to stay in the morning.

2:48:27

S… Speaker 4 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So the reason being to echo to that statement to hence why the conversation only started at 9 because that is our turn. Then you can start at 6 or all across the park with two different sides. Bila sampai ke Rauh punya queue, kita tak dapat nak buat configuration tu. They can use your password.

2:49:05

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

My question is, this is the record of Rasheed? From Azam? Azam is outside. So, how do you want to talk about Azam? So, they have a copy?

2:49:21

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

It's the number of emails from Cik Azam. It's the number of emails.

2:49:48

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

First, which is Encik Lazis sebagai boss Encik Azal, to be able to report, and then the second one is Encik Azal, which is the witness

2:50:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I think we can go back to IT-IT-IT-IT-IT-IT-IT-IT-IT-IT.

2:50:32

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Then the day that happened, I didn't know what to say, but I asked her if she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she

2:51:05

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

You don't know if you need to communicate with IT for it? Yes. You don't know. You need to communicate with IT. After that, after that, after that case, I'll ask you to ask. Every IT I can communicate with it. You have more questions? No. You have any questions about IT.

2:51:33

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

It's great that Azam is not stable because why are you pregnant? It's great, isn't it? It's great, isn't it? Actually, I can admit to admit. I'm a little ajar with people in class. But for the purpose of the purpose, I know that I want to develop it. Because we know that it's very important to me.

2:51:56

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

but this network engineer. And Azam engineer, he already has a skill of a network engineer. Walaupun he executive, he already has a skill of a network engineer. Azam, just because he is lacking in level three. He is level one, level two, and he has passed. This is Azam. So, during the scene happen, I also tried to counter back in the activation of network switch that we migrated to. Azam, we excluded him. So, at that time, I was a week more.

2:52:26

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

to stand by working in, because we didn't understand. I didn't know. At that time, you knew that when you were pregnant. After you met, after you met, after you met. We were talking about October. I don't know, December. December, December. Nantilah, January. After that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that, after that,

2:53:14

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

You were saying that you want

2:53:16

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

here in December, about four months that they were able to enter, right? Question, since Azam is really below you, so in terms of progress, you are pretty aware. And then you also mentioned that there's not preparation ongoing for my run. How do you then...

2:53:33

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I don't know how much progress is done weekly, monthly, daily, from time to time. It seems like preparation is like everyone is ready for implementation fail. So, they are like not a chance. On one hand, their position is that their officer is only. But if preparation is 4 months down the road, I will imagine that when you want soap, they already have my rent in their portfolio. Wouldn't he be ready enough that 4 months?

2:54:04

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

We have a lot of managers in this team. So it's not a matter of designation. They are not there. They have a competency that is much more important. So now you as the head, you assess it. Four months down the road, they have done preparation for a long time. Even before you even, wouldn't he be ready now? He said, it's true that if we talk about Azaf, he already knows everything. But if he's a teenager, he doesn't like it.

2:54:34

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Bukan jeje dia aku ni. Kerja aku ni bukan kerja aku ni. So sometimes, dia macam, tak nak buat apa pun. Bukan beyond dia punya ni. Contoh aku tukar masak. Kerja aku masak. Dia bukan nak suruh aku lupin meja. Mentar lah. Aku tahu aku lupin meja. Tapi tak. Just because dia tahu mungkin dia tak nak buat. I tu. I tu tahu. Okay. Mungkin juga. Tapi dia buat juga special letter. Bila dia buat juga special letter. Tapi dia merasa kata aku hati dia. Okay. Sebab ni aku buat. Contohnya, ni lah dia ada. Okay. Lepas tu bila aku nak buat, aku call.

2:55:00

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I got a password, I got a password, I got a password, I got a password, I got a password, I got a password, I got a password, I got a password, I got a password, I got a password, I got a password, I got a password, I got a password, I got a password, I got a password, I got a password, I got a password, I got a password,

2:55:45

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

But...

2:55:53

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Adakah kerja aku? Betul lah. Berbaloi tak aku, dia beri gaji, buat benda je keti. Macam tu lah, saya cakap ni tu lah. Kalau aku dikira, okay. Tentang salah. Dia macam ni lah. Dia punya as a technician, it's a day to day operation. Yang ni tiba-tiba migration, a system baru. Walaupun dia main umur satu.

2:56:18

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Walaupun kita telah equip dia, dan kita tak ada trainee, tapi banyak salah buat kita dalam trainee. Walaupun dia berkebayaan. First time dia buat apa? First time dia buat. First time dia boleh buat. Second time? First time dia boleh buat. Oktober 2010. Dia tahu buat dan dia boleh buat. Cuma waktu tu mungkin ada benda-benda teknikal yang dia tak ada. Dia tak boleh nak buat. Dia kena pula marahkan YTM.

2:56:46

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Everyone attacks her That's why she impressed her and said that she didn't affect her. She said that she didn't affect her. She said that she didn't affect her. She said that she didn't affect her. She said that she didn't affect her. She said that she didn't affect her. She said that she didn't affect her. She said that she didn't affect her. She said that she didn't affect her. She said that she didn't affect her. She said that she didn't affect her. She said that she didn't affect her.

2:57:52

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

All right, Encik Azam. Okay, all right. So, Encik Azam, you are witness of domestic inquiry ni that you are required to jawab dengan betul and based on your knowledge yet. Boleh? All right. Okay, so, I nak tanya background dahulu.

2:58:34

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

What is your role in my RAN network configuration at your ITM role? Boleh explain a bit more on that? Boleh terangkan lebih lanjut pasal berkenali tu? Support apa? What kind of support? Siapa yang anda support? Okay, faham? So basically you are physically present lah masa configuration tu pada 15 hingga 17 Desember? Okay.

2:59:14

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, can you tell us about 15 to 17, what is your answer? Standby. Okay, can you tell us about 15, 16 and 17?

3:00:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

switch 1, but I didn't get it. And then, to jump in the call 2... Alright, I want to ask about the communication between the site and the HQ. So, you have to try to contact HQ in the web 3. You have to contact who? Can I explain? I have to contact Encik Limit with Encik... Can you tell what you contact Encik Fadi?

3:01:36

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Berkenaan dengan reply mereka, apa yang mereka reply kepada you? Untuk support you? Aja, sekali lagi. You ATM Shahlam yang tolong you. So, maksudnya HQ tak support you untuk tolong apa-apa berkaitan coffee garage, ya? Ya. Faham. So, berapa kali you try untuk attempt nak komunikasi dengan mereka? Ada lebih 5 kali, 10 kali.

3:02:55

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Okay, this is related to 3-4 times, if you get access to them, do not support them in the long time? I mean, when you do support them, what should they do? That's it. Okay.

3:03:40

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

How long are you with the company? How long are you with the company? Roughly? Since when you're involved about Myran? About Myran? Since when you're involved? Since when you have knowledge? Jad bila terlibat? There's info, there's preparation. Myran needs, that bila? Sebelum ni, you don't need to do that with Myran? You're at CM with DM yesterday? Configuration back in October, are you involved? You sign off?

3:04:27

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Azam, you sign up. Are you in sign of configuration sheet 17 Oktober? 17 Oktober, apa yang berlaku Azam? 17 Oktober, betul.

3:05:01

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Azam has signed off as IT supervisor. You signed to the customer's signature part.

3:06:07

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Azam tengah simak service report tu ke? Okay, December, dia buat configuration selepas dia bagi email 11 December, betul? Okay, sebelum tu, we should have preparation for Myron's configuration ahead of time. Okay, soalan ini tadi,

3:06:40

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Since you are with the company for one year, how long you will be involved in my rent? Sebelum December. Dokumen yang kami ada sekarang, daripada MTS Technology Services, nampak video kan? Itulah masaknya. Itulah masaknya. Itulah. Itulah. Itulah. Itulah. Itulah. Itulah. Itulah. Itulah. Itulah. So, description of problem.

3:07:23

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

MyRAN configuration and WAC firmware upgrade. Then pastu action taken config MyRAN of UITM core switch by follows the... Okay, I tak showing this one apa. Pastu upgrade the both UITM. Pastu second one do need for... I tak showing ni apa.

3:07:51

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

tested and verified the WBC is working after firmware upgrade. So, this happened on October 17, 2025. So, you sign on this one. So, you need to get out of service report.

3:08:30

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

But I didn't know about it, Azam, with my boss earlier, that MyRan's activities have been started. So that's what we...

3:09:10

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

It's clear when you say that you only say that you only do it. So, when I talk to you earlier, how long did you talk about my running?

3:10:01

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Do you know why we don't have a return statement from Assam? Assam has made a return statement. You look at the number 12. D-12. So, it's so far the same with Razek, right? D-12. So, we take it. So, he didn't cover it. He didn't cover it. He just said that he had 29 days. So, this is the time we want to upgrade.

3:10:52

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Maksudnya, sebelum kita buat configuration yang MTS Service Report yang you sign ni

3:10:59

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I try to understand the knowledge of Azam in many times. Because this is an issue that is a bit of a big configuration that is involved. So, normally it's because the infrastructure has a lot of money. They have a preparation, a meeting, what to do next, what is the processes. Azam is aware earlier, only recently, or when.

3:11:26

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Because in Razif's point, as your head, MyRen is something that has been a lot of preparation. So, so-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and.

3:12:32

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Adakah Azam dalam whatsapp group untuk MyRent ni? I think I wait to have. Okay. Ada brother dalam whatsapp group yang ada. Mak ada dalam whatsapp group ada perbincangan tentang MyRent. Okay. Maksudnya sepanjang setahun awak dengan Rafulin, you tak pernah pergi satu meeting pun regarding about MyRent until 15 Oktober. And December. December. We tak ada meeting semasa. Okay. Kalau.

3:13:11

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

you takde knowledge, bila you receive email pukul 9.38 pagi, don't you contact anyone to know what to do? Did you communicate to your IT HQ? You call them at least just to get clarification? Sebab okay, if you meet us, it's simple tau soalan. Kalau I budak baru and I tak pernah kena meeting, I tak pernah kena invitation, I do not know nothing.

3:13:59

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

And then, all I tahu, my rent involves my UITM and TM. But, you can use it as a configuration to take 5 or 4 hours to be ready. The first thing that at the back of my head is, what should I do? Because email it is 8.30am. So, I would have to know what to be prepared and what to expect. Dia is who? Dia is who?

3:14:39

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Jumpa siapa? Tak, dia tu siapa? Yang dikatakan, kamu katakan, dia harus beritahu kamu. Dia Azriq. Dia Azriq. Dia Azriq. Dia ada jumpa.

3:15:06

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

He said that it was him. He said that he sent us to stand by. He said that you know that the first day of the day, the 14th of the month, you gave us an IT. 15th of the month, in the morning, he got email. 15th of the month, he sent us an email at 8.30am. After that, at 11.30am, it was an IT. And on the day, Fatim was there.

3:15:42

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

15 months. Confirmed by you have HOF. 15 months from Fatin at that time. He can know that there is a discussion between Fatin and you. Maybe at that time. Is it true or not? What is it? What is it? What is it? What is it? What is it talking about Fatin? Fatin is there at that time in 2011? Yes. There, right?

3:16:10

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Okay. Topic perbincangan adalah adakah berkaitan dengan MyRat ataupun benda lain? Okay. So, Fatin suruh awak standby sajalah pada 15 hari bulan pagi tu. Malam-malam. Okay. Okay. Saya banyak tanya ni, Azam, tapi kamu kata kamu tak tahu now pasal MyRat ni. Eh?

3:16:48

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, there is a group that you have in it, one is password. Issue password, it doesn't include password. And password is given and statement that you have in it. Oh, you didn't forget. So, that means that you are in the group.

3:17:12

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Passport yang tak boleh masuk Passport tu dah ada sebenarnya Itu soalan Itu saya nak tanya Sedangkan adakah sebab password saja Diorang tak boleh masuk Ataupun sebab lain Betul Tapi dalam WhatsApp Group Kami dapat yang kamu berada dalam WhatsApp Group tu Telah diberi Ya memang telah diberi Tapi password untuk Courses 1 betul Courses 1 betul Tapi sehingga hari ni Courses 2 tu pun tak pasti lagi tak menggelet Betul

3:17:59

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Okay. Okay.

3:18:35

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Adakah kamu tahu bahawa UITM pun dia punya sistem pun tak review waktu tu? Betul tak? Tak tahu. Okay. Normally line of communication between IT site dengan IT HQ, how does that work normally? Tak tahu you punya line of communication dengan sebab apa yang puzzle ni, pertama you cakap you tak pernah pergi meeting. Kedua you tak ada knowledge langsung pasal my brand dan my rent.

3:19:06

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Ketiga, now you're saying you were asked to stand by. Okay? Neither do you tahu apa dia nak buat, nor do you tahu what to prepare. So how... They just sit up to stand by. Okay. Kalau dia minta stand by, you tak call Dini nor Dufatin on that day. You stand by, you're meaning to sit. You are competent enough to manage, Azam. Sebab sebelum dia, dia nak...

3:20:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

In Azam, during 2 days, 15 and 16 days of the month, HOM said that he told you that everything is in order. Everything is okay. And you didn't tell the problem about what happened when 15 or 16 days of the month. You didn't talk to him. There was a problem. Is it true or not?

3:20:37

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Betul. Tapi 6 months later, when he came, he said it was spooky. He said it was 17 months later. 17 months later. 16 months later, 16 months later. And then? He said that you didn't tell him about the problem from 15 months to 17 months later. You just asked him about the problem after that. 15 months later, 16 months later. You didn't tell him about the problem you needed IT to support. Not detailed.

3:21:30

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I think that maybe you need to call HQIT or... I think that HOM is not aware of that in 2015 or 2016 period. Do you have information about HOM? Do you have information about HOM? Do you need HQIT support for 2016 or 2015? Do you know why there is no order for 2016?

3:22:21

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Azam, you said the word you, ITM, sya'alam, tolong. Tolong apa ya? Nak just, nak get clarity. Dia tolong configure. Dia configure, how do they tolong configure when kita patut tahu how to configure? The remote PC you.

3:22:43

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

How do they do that? They use Tirex. They use software. So they use UITM-shallah. So they put it in the laptop and then they configure it. Okay, if they configure, wouldn't they ask for the same password? Is that the same password that they have given back in June? Yeah, that's right. Okay, okay. That's what they want for Co-sexual. Yeah, Co-sexual. But the config is UITM-shallah, so it should be for us.

3:23:22

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Okay, bila... I'm trying to understand Azam. Because Azam is a jaga rabu, Azam receives email from UITM 8.30 pukul 8.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9.30 pukul 9

3:23:47

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

By design, the word call switch. If identity third party, obviously your call switch will be you your phone password because you are the owner of that whatever. By design. So naturally the only information that expected out of you either cable, link, ataupun password sahaja.

3:24:26

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Me just saying out loud as a layman. So, bila baca email ni, dia maklumkan bahawa kerja-kerja migrasi, my rent, router, installation and migration. So, the only thing at the back of your head will be what? Password. Tapi tadi, just before this line statement, you kata diorang akan configure.

3:25:01

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, soalan lah you tahukah tak tahu sebenarnya dia akan buat configuration? Yes, saya tahu. So, password whenever an issue? Haa, sepatutnya sepatutnya tak ada. How do your ITM Syah Alam remotely manage that when they do not have your password? I mean, our password. How do they do it remotely when they themselves tak ada password kita? Soalan last from my side, Azam eh.

3:25:54

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Bila you masuk dalam ICT WhatsApp Group? Bila you start to join ICT WhatsApp Group too? So maksudnya since February, Raouk is managed under you fully. Betul? And from the same WhatsApp Group, Dini actually share on 11 of June all the password for call switches.

3:26:47

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Is there any other password you monitor that perhaps confuse you in the event they require other things? This is all that you need. Is there any other password that you can monitor other than this?

3:27:24

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Okay, so from your side, you don't have access to any password. By virtue of sharing this password, the ownership basically is all across the border. It's no longer by selection. If it's not here, then who will? It's what I'm a bit lost.

3:27:59

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So he actually freeway to the password. He also can access the very password. And using the same password. That's how your ITM Shah Alam configure. So he has the authority? The additional issue. Apparently, I don't have the authority too. Because I'm part of it in the group that's the same. So, the first line is that. Okay. So, issue-nya sekarang ni, bila berbanding kepada report Mr. Rahsli.

3:28:33

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

that you said that you didn't get full support from HQ. Do you mind to illustrate that for you? Do you agree with what Encik Razim said? Yes, actually, Encik Razim said that Encik Razim said that Encik Razim said that Encik Razim said that Encik Razim said that Encik Razim said that Encik Razim said that Encik Razim said that Encik Razim said that Encik Razim said that Encik Razim said that Encik Razim said that Encik Razim said that Encik Razim said that

3:29:06

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, he gave it to HQ that HQIT HQ didn't provide support for them. So, we want to validate from Mr Aziz, who said, if you agree or you don't feel that HQIT didn't support site. Yes or not? Yes or no?

3:29:47

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

No, I remember that I was asked if I was asked if I was asked if I was asked if I was asked.

3:30:00

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

20 minutes later, I asked if the issue is supported or not, I answered yes. This is what I said, between 15 and 12. 15 and 12, I said if the issue is supported or not, I answered yes. So, the same question, I asked. But, this is because of the email from Raju.

3:30:31

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, if you say yes, then you say no. So, if you say yes, then you say no. So, if you say yes, if you say yes, if you say yes, if you say yes, if you say yes, if you say yes, if you say yes, if you say yes, if you say yes, if you say yes, if you say yes, if you say yes, if you say yes, if you say yes, if you say yes, if you say yes, if you say yes, if you say yes, okay.

3:31:09

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I want to ask you a little bit more. You can just say yes or not. Do HQ provide adequate technical oversight and support? Yes or no?

3:31:46

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Okay, alright. Thank you. Untuk yang lagi satu saya nak tanya, adakah pihak HQ memberi proper access ataupun operasi kesediakan? Membeli readiness yang secukupnya kepada you? Maksudnya dia bagi proper access, proper readiness untuk support you from the backhand.

3:32:27

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Adakah benda itu berlaku dekat you semasa 15-17? Proper macam mana? Maksudnya, proper itu maksudnya bila you call, dia angkat, bila you text, jawab, bila you call at certain hour, dia ni, itu maksudnya proper lah. Proper assessment. Adakah benda itu berlaku ataupun tidak? Tak. Maksud tak apa, tak sama. Tak, bukan.

3:33:03

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

to the injection number 2, there is no access management. There is no access management. There is no access management. There is no access management. So, there is no access management. So, there is no access management. So, for the number 3, I want to ask if the HQ is able to coordinate it effectively in 2015-2017? Is it possible that it will happen?

3:33:35

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Okay, I mean, in 2017, is it possible to give a response or feedback or coordination that is beautiful during the operation of this operation? Yes or not? Okay, for the number four, I would like to ask for this question. Okay, I will drop it.

3:34:22

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Can I just know, in the past, bila you perlukan support daripada HQ, how do you initiate that support to ask them to be there for you? Like, ada orang ke? Ada email ke? Ataupun naturally, whenever from time to time, your ITM panggil, you stand by sahaja. When you kata inform, how do you initiate...

3:35:03

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

What's that? Okay, bila you nampak email daripada 9.39 pagi tu, did you send any WhatsApp to Dini atau Fatin? So you expect them no need to be on standby because you got it all figured out? Sebab, so dalam email tu semua dah dapat. Jadi, makluman tu ataupun komunikasi tidak diperlukan langsung? Sebab, masa tu memang saya tak aware.

3:35:41

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Okay, so without assumption in mind, hence why they assume you pun tak perlukan pertolongan. Itu satu nak tanya. In the past, have you encountered any difficulties similar to this? Okay. And in the past, whenever your ITM expect you to stand by? Pernah tak berlaku ataupun ini kali pertama, Azam? Pernah. Azam stand by alone?

3:36:31

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So basically, you managed it on your own, you did not need your support? Yes. Are you expecting the same thing happen on that 15 Oktober night? Yes. Is it true that Dini did not call you on 15 Oktober? Eh, no, December. Tak ada call langsung. 15 December. December, 15 December. Langsung call ke atau tak call? 15 December. Ada Dini call tak? Ya. Selepas dapat email tu, ada Dini call tak? Ya.

3:37:56

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

You update him on 16 pukul 5.12 pagi, I think. Dini said thank you, Azam. I assume you guys talk to each other. Otherwise, how can that be thank you? Okay, so you update kata configure call 1 lepas. Betul?

3:38:37

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

After that, he said thank you to you. Can I know that they call you to ask for an update after MTS Kim in the picture?

3:38:57

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Did you call him for an update? MTS came in on 16 to help you. Do you update him? How do you update him? Your last communication is pukul 6.19. MTS only came in at 6.00.

3:40:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Did you update him on 16, MTS datang? Or to do remotely? Yeah, remote. Okay. So is there any update on 16 to you, to Dini? From you? So once MTS on board, you do not need help anymore. Once MTS datang, you don't need help anymore. Betul? Tolong semua, tapi call 2 tak boleh lagi kan? Tak boleh langsung. Masa... Tapi masih tak boleh dapat, masa tu dapat call 2 punya apa? Password.

3:40:50

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Yes, when it comes, it comes to the link. So, in the day 15th of the month, call 1 is set up and set up. 15th of the morning or 15th of the morning? 15th of the morning. 15th of the morning, it's dry. It's set up. Configure? Yes. Can we know that you can know? Or you can know that you can know? 15th of the month. That's the call 2.

3:41:36

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I want to establish Core 1 when it is finished. We already know the password. Configure it is not that we can reboot to the ITM. The ITM is going to configure the password that we give. Correct. Meaning it is finished. Core 1, I can say that it is finished at 15 pula. That is where it is not finished. What is it? It is because it is because it is the configuration. What is it?

3:42:14

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Sorry, you're referring when Cik Sam tanya tu, adakah untuk call 1 atau call 2? So call 1 despite giving password and that password also align yang you dapat dalam Jun 2025 tu, still tak boleh configure? Sebab, I tak tahu pada configure untuk... Siapa yang tu? Then, siapa yang tahu? Siapa yang tu? Yeah, Spring Provider. Daripada Sistem Untuk World tu, dia OSPF. Masa Sistem Untuk World lagi, dia bagi.

3:42:53

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

But he's not privy to Mairan for his exercise also. Azam, are you in the meeting on 27 Oktober, Azam regarding about Mairan? Yes, in my first line question tadi, I asked, then I also asked, are you involved in Mairan in any way in terms of preparation? You said no until December 15.

3:43:26

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, in terms of preparation, there must be a meeting help between you and your ITM, or what not. Aren't you not in the MyRan meeting? Okay, I said I didn't join meeting with MyRan. Okay, there is one meeting that I shared, dated 16-10. Did you not attend to that meeting?

3:43:58

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Kami memohon untuk mengadakan perbincangan bersama pihak Puan Alu. 1 Oktober? 16 Oktober. You are in the meeting. Maksudnya, you are aware of the preparation. Dalam final 16 Oktober ada apa-apa ke? Yang meeting online. Makai tandingan.

3:45:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

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3:45:34

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Oh, for October 1st? That's it for December. 15 December. 15 December, we already have the password. But the configuration according to Azam, it's not settled. So, who will settle that? If you ask Azam, it will settle. Azam, the configuration of the 15th of December is not configured or configured? It is configured, but it is not finished. It is not finished. Oh, because the call is not allowed? Yes.

3:46:07

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Yeah, it's not because it's... It's because it's part of our business. It's part of our business. It's part of our business. It's part of our business. It's part of our business. It's part of our business.

3:47:21

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

the configuration coming from Shalam because it's not from our configuration, it's not our configuration, it's not our configuration. So, we didn't have it. So, we didn't have it? We didn't have it. We didn't have it in 2016. But, we didn't have it. But, we didn't have it. We didn't have it. We didn't have it.

3:48:01

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So basically whatever we have, we have done

3:48:09

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Azami punya statement, last line tu, saya cuba geledah segala dokumen yang lama dan mencuba secat segala username, password untuk akses ke call 2 dan berjaya. Ya, geledah tu hari 15 ke 16? 16. So, yang call 2, password tu duduk kat mana? Dia duduk dalam yang lama tu. Row. Jadi, dia tak sama dengan password yang even dibagi dalam zip file.

3:48:44

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

in the ICT group though? Yes, I... I? Siapa dia penolong pegawai teknologi maklumat UITM Sya'alam? Apa dia? Ada satu kamutera, penolong pegawai teknologi maklumat UITM Sya'alam. Siapa dia?

3:49:29

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Nak counter balik? Azam, to communication, saya cuba cari tentang jumpa the official request from Rao. Because you are the owner. We provide technical advice from the HQ. We do not own the system, we do not own the equipment there. That is your responsibility.

3:50:01

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

But whenever, when we quiet, we can help. So I just want to understand. I don't see any requests from Azam.

3:50:29

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Dini takde official request kan? On 15 Oktober, uh, December for them to be on standby? But you assume they will be on standby so but Dini in the email loop. You assume diorang akan standby because Dini dalam email loop yang sama. And at the same time you also spoken to Fatin physically on 15 as well. Yes. Theris actually do not follow our SOP lah lah. So, tapi saya rasa saya dari mana habis ini.

3:51:02

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

SOP-nya apa? Remind saya. Any request to IT. Any service request or asset request. Must have a phone call. Kalau nak standby remote ataupun physical, kena email? Kena email. Okay. Bila pernah team email? Dah lama dah sebenarnya.

3:51:32

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Have you used IT request form before, Azam? Whenever you need them? Whenever you need them, you drop email, they will come. Whenever you need them, you drop email, they will come. Is that deep official for you? So, if Fatin datang, Fatin datang based on whose instruction.

3:52:11

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Okay, contohnya 15 hari bulan, so happen dekat situ kan. Do you see from the WhatsApp to show why she's there? Sebab I'm trying to faham. On one hand, Dini kata must have proper SOP, must have official email, must have official borang. Since takde borang, maka takde siapa akan datang. That is the understanding. Tapi maybe the site punya practice were completely different. Macam-macam the construction, kan?

3:52:36

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

We have a letter, but we don't use a letter. We are calling-calling. So I learn. That seems to be the position taken by Dini, hence why there was no one stand-by because there was no request made. Are they official or verbal? Apparently it has to be official if I understand from him. Is that the practice in Raub? Can I just get that clear out of my chest?

3:53:03

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Okay, so bila you perlukan diorang, you normally buat apa? Tulis dalam WhatsApp tu. Yes. Okay, and they will come. Dini, anything to say about that? Satu lagi saya nak dia. Okay, sorry, sorry. Dini, let's say in this case ya, dia tak pakai official. Andai kata telefon, adakah you akan datang? Nanti. Dalam statement ni, dia tak pakai telefon.

3:53:31

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Phone pun tak ada Untuk minta tolong Just tanya benda tu Sama macam benda 50 I don't know it's okay Even let's say kalau dia call Tanpa phone Eh tanpa benda form Ayub datang Adakah kamu datang?

3:53:47

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Or do you want to be official? We are happy to come. Since we are moving forward, there is no one here. Okay, on the 15th, if they call on whatsapp, where are you going to come? That's it for me. But what is it? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why do you come? Why

3:54:14

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Even if we are here, we don't know what to do. But then your statement is not consistent. Because on one hand, you said you will assist. You are on 15 minutes, but you will stand up. By you. Your statement is consistent. On one hand, you said you will stand up. My statement is on the recorded event.

3:54:38

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

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3:55:10

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

that's my justification so based on the at that time Azam Cia Azam pun cakap tadi dia pun tak faham masa tu dia ingatkan dia kena standby aje

3:55:21

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

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3:55:51

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

There's no request. It's okay, ma'am. It's okay, ma'am. It's okay, ma'am. If it matters, then it matters. Neither do you know, you clearly said he's not competent. You also clearly said that you thought that.

3:56:27

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Thank you Azam. Thank you so much for your cooperation. Take care.

3:56:53

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Actually, we have heard from everybody. Now, we subject kepada Encik Dini. Encik Dini, you want to present your witness?

3:58:04

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Okay, well you don't have anything. Okay, well you don't have anything.

3:59:51

S… Speaker 4 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

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4:00:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Do you have any knowledge regarding about Myran before? We were told that on 15th of October, not December, you are in Raouk. 15th of December, on the day of configuration for Myran.

4:02:25

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

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4:04:44

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

from Dini.

4:05:05

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

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4:05:40

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

How do you receive that email? Because the email does not address to you. How do you know that? When did you receive that email? Can I know that? Because didn't you receive at 9.59 pagi?

4:07:06

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

How long were you in the morning? In the 15th of July, I went to the first time. I think that what I remember is that I asked for her because she was doing the socials. So then, I formed her before I was in the event. That is the summer of 16th.

4:07:39

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Yeah, that's fine. So I'm based on, because we want to request a quotation for Myran Cooperation? No, it's for 15 years. I think I have no knowledge.

4:08:10

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

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4:08:45

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Minta call switch. Password. Wouldn't it phone on 15 hari bulan?

4:09:33

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So you did not inform Khatyn as well?

4:09:48

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

But Azam go to you on that malam. You're lost conversation with Fatim and Azam?

4:10:00

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, I share je. So, why did you call? I said that before I sent out a message, it was about 13.30am. Can you scroll or not? Just because it's all factual je. So, email. Oh, it's personal. So, did you use WhatsApp call? No, I want to check back. I have a conversation call. No, there's a call. I have a warranty.

4:10:30

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.

4:11:02

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

He said Fatin is not involved. Fatin is not involved. Fatin is not involved. He has password. The password is in the group, right? So Fatin is not involved in this. What is the purpose of this? Just to prove the support that we provided from IT. So basically from the social payment that the team was done by IT.

4:11:41

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I'm aware of, when he said support is not the technical, support is very white mirror. Support source it is for 16 months? Yes, for 16 months and for October as well. October is standard party. Then, after that, aware of the payment issue. For payment issue, I aware...

4:12:13

S… Speaker 4 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

You're doing sourcing. NTS is not going to buy.

4:12:32

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

October. October, I had to do P&E. But, Poashikin said that the company was not under us because it was using ECOS. So, it was moving to the budget of the MRF. So, I felt like it was because it was not the IT we had to do payment. So, we had to pass over to the procurement of the OCD to do payment.

4:12:55

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, after that, I didn't get involved in this one, including the second one. I got involved in the order of the service report from Pokemon Raw. So, this is for my rent? Yes, for my rent. So, when you pass the FMS budget, you will have to pay attention? Yes, because this is under Pokemon Raw. So, you didn't know what happened after that? Yes, I didn't know what happened after that. Because this is because I didn't know what happened after that.

4:13:23

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

in work, because the payment order is under round. So, Dini, after the last year, Dini knew that 16 months ago, it was not going to pay, right? That's right. So, I was in meeting today. 18.11. So, I was under the round for my rent first.

4:13:47

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, the second one, it's all from RAUK, not from IT, because it's for internal and we have to make payment. If for MRF, the UITM is directly from RAUK. The order of work is dated from 15 December. Is that the one because it came on 16th? It came on. The order of work is from UITM to RAUK.

4:14:17

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

It's one route to UMKS. So, it's because they're at 16 or different job? Different job, but we order them, based on the quotation that they've given. They've given 2 quotation. They've given cooperation for phase 1. They have 2 times.

4:14:43

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

The first one is on October, 17 October. The second is on October, 15 December. The order is already issued by MPS.

4:15:10

S… Speaker 4 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

And when I put on the system, I called Razin. Before I request from MTSC, I called Razin. So, I told them that they would request from a high vendor to settle issues.

4:15:29

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

But I don't think the government is saying that you're talking about the work. Cuma saya tanya soalan. So far, FMS minta bantuan. Dia hantar pakai form ke email ke. Memang on IT side entertainer. Macam tak buat saya tengok.

4:15:52

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Fatih is always on the side of the side of the side of the side of the side of the side

4:16:04

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

There are requests, for example, like BPM, we need help for BPM. So that's a long term. Sometimes we need to do BPM on semester break, so we need to finish before semester we start. So we need to do a lot because we don't want to do it.

4:16:41

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, we need to say not naturally formal, it's flexible. Even by WhatsApp or phone call, you will turn up to help.

4:17:28

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

If there is no document, you are not going to go down

4:17:50

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

When you say remote, how do you assess how long to be remote and how long to wait until the remote complete or how do you assess your role?

4:18:08

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Sometimes it's not true. For example, if the server is down, sometimes I can remove it. So, if it's possible to recover, it's okay. It's possible to use the thumb system. Okay. So, we can remove it. Then, if I can remove it, I can remove it. So, if I can remove it, then I can remove it. For example, if I can remove it, then I can remove it.

4:18:34

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Would you wait until you complete? Ataupun you dim, okay I'm done, then you just switch off and off. We can wait until, for example, we can dump until the user can use, the user can access, until all the people who are involved will be okay. Then, we can stop. Fatin, why is that in the concession agreement, we need an executive in the room?

4:19:03

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I am not aware of it, but I assume that before it is because before it is an active technician and I think that the position of supervisor is as a result. Competent enough to manage. I have a question. Based on your organization with Azam, Azam is the beginning of January. How competent is he?

4:19:33

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Do you have any account that you have done before? Or do you need to guide it? It depends on what item is. For switches, I can give it to them. For switches, I think it would be better to access switches.

4:20:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

If for AP, it's better to know and experience. But there are certain items such as procurement, what I'm doing now, payment and all that I'm doing. I think it's better to do it. I think it's better to do it. It's not that we need to do it. We need to do it. It's only that we can do it.

4:20:26

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Do you want to switchers? Yes, switchers. I want to switchers. In the case of emergency, on one hand, okay, in the day Azam called you for help, did he tell you what happened actually?

4:20:56

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Because first, your own boss didn't tell you there's a configuration ongoing. You have zero clue what happened exactly. But you texted him back. But I assume there's a conversation prior to that. What did he say? He didn't say there's a configuration ongoing at your ITM. Did he say that he didn't get hold of Didi?

4:21:33

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Because you're not privy, you're not privy. You're not privy. You're not privy. You're not privy. You're not privy. You're not privy. You're not privy. You're not privy. You're not privy. You're not privy. You're not privy.

4:22:15

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, when I say that I want to be a supervisor, it's what I assume. It's an exec. It's not an exec that can be managed at UITM. We can also be able to do it with it, even if we are at HQ. So, basically, technical, UITM, they've seen me. So, what's related to technical, especially network or server?

4:22:48

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

They can look at me as a contact channel for HQ and then, Azam. This is where any email, there's only me, there's also an invitation. So, there's also an invitation. So, there's also an invitation. They're not going to send me a password. It's not going to put it on the phone. It's from 11.43pm. Oh, that's it. When I look at...

4:23:18

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

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4:23:54

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Adini, do you have anything? I don't understand. Just from my standpoint, it's a technical justification based on the capacity, the knowledge that I have. And also, I think we, SIT HQ, have done quite a lot for Rahub, not just for my rent but for other things as well. We supported them very well. And also, we acknowledge the issue with the lack of IT executive.

4:24:36

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Actually, this has been highlighted since HOM-HLP. Memang UITM had to bagi surat for requests for only executive. But somehow that is out of our control. Memang tak pernah ada executive.

4:25:00

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Also, even though our capacity here also doesn't help mine, but we try to invest. You have any question to Fatin? And then you want to raise your emphasis on? Because she's also a witness. So, if you want anything to just get her to elaborate further, then you can. Maybe Fatin can share how we can support our support to Rauh. Not only for my life, but for everything. Compared to other kids, what is their capacity?

4:25:35

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

We have 2 PPM at Rawuk, 1 PPM TCR Room, 1 PPM AP. TCR Room we do 4 times in a month. You will base in Rawuk? Based on the time of the time. For the previous month, we will have one month at Rawuk. For the first month, we will have one month.

4:26:05

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Okay, one year, 4x, setiap kali, 1 bulan? 1 bulan. The second point? Second point, AP. AP pun hampir 1 bulan. Tapi, it's based on the semester break. So, if there's semester break, your accountant can do PPM, then we can do PPM. We don't have a problem with the system, with the server, and that's one more thing. In terms of work-wise, there's an option between remote and physical.

4:26:41

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Wouldn't these two options for within the basket of remote? If for PPM, no, remote. If for server, we can first, we can do remote. If for second, then we can do remote. When you say second, you mean AP? Yeah, server. If not, then you can go. Would the competency of Azam now sufficient to manage these two baskets? For PPM, TCR room with AP, maybe they don't have enough power.

4:27:15

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

But for the server, for now, we can manage. That server can be done remotely, isn't it? It can be done remotely and also if it's down to the computer. In a nutshell, what you're saying, these two baskets and you put emphasis on earlier, Azam can manage. For Tommy... At that moment, we're going to have a network for network. For the server, the criticality is on the network 4.

4:27:45

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Because server, they do not have any core application running their server right now So that is why, we can still support the online and we can also understand the capacity of it is because it is so hard to take a lot of things And the other thing is that, yes, the other thing is that the other thing is that the other thing is that the other thing is that the other thing is that the other thing is that the other thing is that the other thing is that the other thing is that

4:28:18

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, did you still serve that four times? Ataupun he managed all that form? For this year, we... 2025? 2025, yeah. We joined all that form. When you couldn't join, meaning to sit, he championed that? You guys only come from there? We serve it with two things. There is a lot of every floor in each floor. Each floor is at 10. So, you're still based there, but you can see.

4:28:54

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

During the AP point. During the AP point? Split between, from. Sorry. Recently I asked because this seems to be the only question you asked. So I'm trying to understand what more frequency I'm looking at here. Yeah, I will reflect on the responsivity that we carry. So it's not easy, but yeah.

4:29:17

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Anyhow, especially for the BPM, we can maintain something. If that is, we can report every month. Question, BPM and APP? BPM, 2-2. 1 TCR, 1 AP. 2-2 BPM. Both cannot be done remotely, long-term. So, we need to clean the BPM. We need to check everything. We need to have 100 AP. For AP, we have 100 AP.

4:29:53

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

In terms of executive in

4:30:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Now, is it, there is an executive and there is a tradition in the workshop? Yes, there is one. There is two. There is two. There is two. Okay, exactly, not the office. You guys send me to me. Okay, alright, thank you. Okay.

4:30:26

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Did you finish it? Can you do the freezing space? No, we'll discuss it. Then we'll discuss it. Then we'll discuss it. We'll discuss it.

4:31:04

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I believe that, again, I just emphasize the overall context, I totally understand you not faham what is going on. But the charges, I just not stick to the charges and the third charge. It's basically on the statement ni lah. Alright, I just nak ingatkan balik to our panel. Failure to ensure adequate technical oversight and support. The judge number one. Judge number two. Be Sebastian.

4:31:35

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Judge number two, failure to ensure corporate access management and operational readiness. Judge number three, failure to respond and coordinate effectively during critical operation. Judge number four, failure to exercise through effective coordination and accountability as a head of IT. Okay, now I really hope that based on the evidence, the witness witness statement.

4:32:02

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

so we can put in this context only but I totally understand, my rent semua dah complete, they already took switch, so I do all the time. They don't want to be affected by the other side, so we focus on the charges. Okay, for the DI you have to be very careful.

4:32:34

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

because if they're wrong, they're wrong. If they're wrong, they're wrong. At least it's not the first time that I met. When I looked at it, overall, the objective is to make sure of my friend I support. So, when I was able to answer it, I still had a decision. When I was asked,

4:33:07

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I asked her to ask her if she asked me to help her. She didn't have a help. She didn't tell her about her. She didn't tell her about her. She didn't tell her about her. She didn't tell her about her. She was very strong.

4:33:35

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

in switches which is it called switches? Yes, switches. So, at that time, he felt that he had a lot of time. He said that he had a lot of time. He said that he had a lot of time. He said that he had a lot of time. He said that he had a lot of time. He said that he had a lot of time. He said that he had a lot of time. He said that he had a lot of time.

4:34:04

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

They're mencurah. In this case, I saw that there's no charges. No charges. If you ask me, my project is, they're not guilty. That's it. But then there's a problem. There's a problem. There's a SOP that I saw. SOP must be proper, easy for me. They have their service.

4:34:34

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Okay, that's my mind. Okay, Sam. Hello, saya. Hello. I rasa macam itulah juga lebih kurang. Cumanya, I think ultimately, bila kita tahu benda macam ni, I think they, banyak issue. Macam, you dah dapat email daripada ATM tu. Sepatutnya, I would assume, I would prefer kalau dia ni.

4:35:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

to actually tanya balik, actually what kind of role or what kind of expectation you have or what else. Paling tidak pun, kalau dia tak buat, dia akan suruh Azhar buat. So then as a result day, kita tahu sebenarnya apa pihak klien nak oleh pihak kita. Yang tu, sebab I think dua-dua macam underestimate.

4:35:20

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

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4:35:50

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, expectation. If you think that it's critical from the beginning, it will be off, sleep mode, it will be done. So, understanding the issue from beginning to the phone, we can say that it is not the same as the same as the same as the same as the same as the same as the same as the same as the same as the same as the same

4:36:13

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I feel like after the talk, I feel like he wants to make a good job. But he feels like he feels like he feels like he feels like he feels like he feels like he feels like he feels like he feels like he feels like he feels like he feels like he feels like he feels like

4:36:31

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

But because he's in there, I understand that he's not supposed to be me, right? Because he's not supposed to be me because he's not supposed to be me because he's not supposed to be me because he's not supposed to be me because he's not supposed to be me because he's not supposed to be me because he's not supposed to be me

4:36:59

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, to be fair, to be honest, I don't know the baseline of what kind of expectation we have for our judges. So, if you say there could be an improvement in SOP for me. Next time, if you have a job like this, make sure we establish what is prior expectation for us. That's right. Because if you fail, you will confirm that.

4:37:28

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I don't know what kind of expectation. Based on the charges? Based on the charges, itulah. If you want to be guilty, you can go to the floor. If you want to be guilty, you can go to the floor. If you want to be guilty, you can go to the floor. So, whether, maybe not because, how do you say that? Miscommunication. Underestimate.

4:38:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

If you want to take that role, if you want to take that role, that means that you have to take that role. That means that you have to take that role. That means that you have to take that role. That means that you have to take that role. That means that you have to take that role. That means that you have to take that role. That means that you have to take that role. That means that you have to take that role. That means that you have to take that role.

4:38:26

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

But in the first round, you're going to take action, like case me, it's not right. So it's the first case. Actually, there are two cases, but the first case is the second case. So it's the second case. So it's the second case. So it's the second case. So it's the second case. Hopefully it's the next round. If it's the second case, it's the second case. If it's the second case, it's the second case.

4:39:05

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

That's why I emphasis on the charge. The charge itself is very loosely worth it. You don't need to take and find spectral data, you lack nothing here. You have problem with your document. Bila you have established 15 hours, you should have a specific date where we have met and at this hour, this hour, this hour. So very explicit.

4:39:31

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

It makes me worry. It makes me throw out for technical reason.

4:40:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I think clearly it shows that a lot of people are very disappointing. Simply because when the email came, neither do he cross-getik nor do he share. Not even a single conversation, not to roll Maizam or Azrim, not even to, in the nutshell, to brush off. No, together, Azam and Dini. Neither do he call the Azam nor do Azam call.

4:40:39

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

but he's as the head he played so then he feels big time and he said in his defense he did contact them because he's a very close relationship that also was not he did not even prove anything at all so you acknowledge your stuff is you acknowledge it you also acknowledge you have a good relationship the three basket the three basket none of it he did not take initiative to come nor did he ask for clarity so if he clarified that reputation would not be at stake at this point in time

4:41:16

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

To not punish, it's not possible. Simply because reputation at stake. You are bullying on this mental. Judge for all. That's right. Judge for all. That's right. Father I, they don't want anything at all. And then the last statement, bila kita tanya, because you don't care. Actually, it's no one else but me enough. You have one scapegoat, duduk S2. Domainy, they're going to file. But you, as the stake, are not even... I don't... No. 9. Zero.

4:41:59

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

and the last conversation pukul 6 petang. So what happened to my WTS? MTS. Yes. LBFs. Bila dia datang, tak datang, he don't give a damn. I do not understand. So conversation tak ada, call up tak ada, phone update tak ada. I think when I asked question regarding about, they kata Syahvil, from the MTS, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shafiq, Shaf

4:42:34

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

They don't feel it. They don't feel it. They don't feel it. They don't feel it. They don't feel it. They don't feel it. They don't feel it. They don't feel it. They don't feel it.

4:43:13

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Most of the reason why, you asked to hit clarification first. So, bila you open the clarification and watered down a lot, you can say to then tell your ITM at the whole Malaysia, Chook, wait for me until I access. Who are you to say that? Until you are doubly sure to actually. You don't want to tell your ITM at the whole Malaysia. You don't want to tell your ITM at the whole Malaysia. So, they don't clarify the relationship. Why not? So, they watered down towards the end.

4:44:22

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

He didn't reply.

4:44:52

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

He needs to know what he needs to know.

4:45:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

then to MTS, pukul 2 petang, and then MTS will be there. But again, he wanted out, it's just merely for verification. But clearly, the WhatsApp says something else. So, I really don't understand. You buy conduct, you know the gravity, hence why you contacted MTS. Because they are 3 tier punya skill. But on the other side, you've, you brush it off to say, they're just coming for verification. To me, head part, memang leadership.

4:45:33

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

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4:46:06

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

October tu dia boleh get clarity lah. Then it is on the 15 pagi tu lah. Then nampak email tu, you nak apa? Nak kitorang bantuan apa? Okay, alright. So, we're going to drop charge 1 to after 3. Tapi, Pio, question. Kalau you ada charge 4 ni, you not hit 1, you intend to work. Okay. So, charge 4 is, if you can see the bigger role, kan? Nampak keseluruhan as an icon, as a kid.

4:46:37

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, this one, I think we can bring to the VC back to decide whether they are going to come to what kind of so-called punishment So, a warning letter, or an infection, or further investigation needs to be done So, we don't want to focus on this because we have a hierarchy So, then we can... If you want to design it, design it? It's cautionary

4:47:05

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

But frankly speaking, when we DCs before the end, HR has proposed. But when we DC requests to listen to the verb. So that's why we do it.

4:47:37

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I need to check. I need to check. Yeah, betul, betul, betul. Yes, betul, betul, betul. Cuma dia, I need to check balik whether increment dengan bonus affected ataupun either one. So, as far as I know, bonus tu memang tak ada masa kita bagi dia, memang tu tak dapat. Tapi tu bukan.

4:48:00

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

This is the issue, right? This is the issue, right? In terms of leadership, the gravity is huge. I don't see it as small. Pada tempat saya, dia dah buat asma. Dia dah buat asma, pada saya. Even if it, pun kalau kita tengok pada siapa ni, siapa ni, Ranzid. Ranzid pun pada dia, tak ada masalah. Cuma, benda tadi, bila,

4:48:32

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Siapa ni? Azam. Azam. Ah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

4:48:48

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

That's what I'm going to ask about the position. But if we're going to talk about this, the meeting that we're going to see is like a benchmark. Because we're going to use it for this. And if it's true, there's a lot of things that we're going to do.

4:49:15

S… Speaker 3 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Even 17, oh, they can handle everything, right? This is how you run it. But, you know, it's emotional. It's emotional. They think that their daughter's daughter's daughter's daughter's daughter's daughter's daughter's daughter's daughter's daughter's daughter's daughter's daughter's daughter's daughter's daughter's daughter's daughter's daughter's daughter's daughter's daughter's daughter's daughter.

4:49:54

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

But the idea that he is in the stand-by mode

4:50:01

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

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4:50:26

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So I would say that this is a resourceful. I would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they would say that they

4:50:52

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

who can configure it. So, maybe at the point of support, not at the point of support. You can see, if we have objective, in a positive position, when there is executive, he doesn't have to accept executive. He doesn't have to accept executive. He doesn't have to accept it. He doesn't have to use it. He doesn't have to use it. He doesn't have to use it.

4:51:34

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

6, 9, 2. And then, after the commission, through, through HOM and IT. It's about, but I don't know. And then, it's a serious case. Zero. HOM, I don't know. So, even if I don't charge, it's not responsible. It's not possible. It's not possible. It's not possible. It's not possible. It's not possible. It's not possible. It's not possible. It's not possible. It's not possible. It's not possible. It's not possible.

4:52:08

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

that they want to launch it. It's not. They only need to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to.

4:52:38

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

If the thing is not important, the preparation does not need to do so much. And now, October has been established. We as a head don't know what we need, even in October. It's the same thing. And now, when we have contractually, the guy is not the only thing. But neither do he be on standby, nor do he is really cooperative, if you ask me. He could have just gone to get married. That's what I don't know. I don't understand what he needs to do. It's a position of IT. It's a position of as a head.

4:53:21

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

It's a hit. It's a hit. It's a hit. It's a hit. It's a hit. It's a hit. It's a hit. It's a hit.

4:54:10

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, DC nanti kita akan combing. Pada hari ini, nanti kita akan present balik to DC dan kita akan accept from them. So, benda ni, kalau boleh, ada lesson. So, this lesson, HR minta, kita yang kena cakap nama dirah, tapi as a lesson ke apa ni, kita kena cakap lah.

4:54:32

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

If we have a deal or something, make sure that we are clear, deliverable, whatever. I totally understand, but I echo with you. Jawatan hate too is so big. And then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then

4:55:00

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

If you don't want to go to the house, you can't go to the house.

4:55:17

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

I pun tak nampak the agency. Sepatutnya from your account, bila datang email your account, kita dah betul-betul macam, what next? Apa dah penyesusnya tak ada? And bila benda tu as a head, tak nampak benda tu, dia tak nampak benda tu, dan tak nampak benda tu as a really important email from iron, sebab kita jaga reputation kan? So, bila jaga reputation, klien kena jaga betul. So, bila benda tu tak ada, dan nampak benda tu underestimate macam,

4:55:43

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Okay. It's too much. It's too much.

4:56:15

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

All right, so...

4:56:42

S… Speaker 1 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

Thank you.

4:56:47

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

The points later, we're gonna give you some checklist so that your thoughts can explain later. So we have concluded, but the decisions will be announced later.

4:57:12

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

from both sides, the company, and also from your side. So, later we are going to combine again, the disciplinary committee, and after that, we will announce. So, from your side, is there anything you want to say? So, which means the disciplinary committee will also be launched in this year.

4:57:32

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

So, which then, lepas ni, it's not going to be another session. Ah, I don't want to say that, but it's subject to the permintaan DC. If DC needs further investigation, we will conduct another round, like this. So, we have a different panel. So, we will dig down. But, from our side, we have a panel for Madam Chairman. We are satisfied with all the...

4:57:58

S… Speaker 2 (1 Mont Kiara 1)

evidence submitted so I also witnessed the statement so nanti kita akan present by the DC ok alright? itu sahaja from your side ok so kita round table in a mission man and any? there is no what? itulah itulah itulah okay thank you thank you so much

1 Mont Kiara 1

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