1 Mont Kiara 1

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  1. 0:00

    This domestic inquiry is forming to assume the charges against the employee and to determine based on the evidence presented whether the obligations are established on a balance of probabilities. This session will be conducted in accordance…

  2. 2:36

    First thing first, the first thing is that we will listen from the privilege to get witness in order to certify, submit your document. Everything is all based on evidence. We are very fact-proof drivers in order for us to access, be coopera…

  3. 3:50

    So, first charge is failure to ensure adequate technical oversight and support. So, second one is failure to ensure proper access, management and operational readiness. So, charges we are going to hear adalah failure to respond and coordina…

  4. 5:01

    All right, so Mr. Chairman and member of the panel is committed to a security concern and litigation against Chetini in case capacity as the head of information technology arising from event that occurred between 15 to 17 December 2025 in r…

  5. 8:57

    They are for a first charge on failure to ensure the fit maker oversight and support. So, I think first we need to understand is Maireen Migration is a request to send activity by UIN to change from Metro E, where they are currently, previo…

  6. 10:00

    Core 1 has been configured on 16 Oktober. So... 16 Oktober? Bila? 2025? 2025. So you can see on the end you can provide it. You can show us. I see Azam... Now? Oh, tak apa. Tak apa, tak apa. Azam ni? Azam tu jadi lain. So, you nak pakai dul…

  7. 14:09

    Kawan completed on 7th of October. But the acquisition, charges kata, sister gagal to up for Kawan, on the 15th. So, she wanted to help her. She didn't say that Kawan didn't complete, but she wanted to help her. So, that's the point. due be…

  8. 19:17

    10 hours to be on your tour before the process. What happened? I instructed... I instructed... Sorry, I asked my child, which is Azam, to go to a 10th to assess on the 15th. Okay, is that conversation or via WhatsApp? How do you really your…

  9. 21:11

    Pada ini on the 15th, is pada yang tadi email D6 ITM hantar pada 8.08 On the 15th, the same day FMS hantar 99, 9.36pm Sebelum tu ada tak dia beritahu dia nak buat 15? Berbeli ataupun SMS? FMS beli ataupun masalah, tak ada langsung If you co…

  10. 25:28

    So, it has to be assessed. So, it has to be assessed in 2009. Dia buat configuration ni pada lepas bulan petang. Itu sebab dia bagi email. By the day, on this pukul 9.00 p.m. Which is, there is a time after 6.00 p.m. So, to say late, late, …

  11. 26:30

    And we have already asked Azam to help but I don't know what to do. So Azam told me, okay, I'm going to attend for the night. Sorry, on one hand you said Azam seems not to be aware but now you are saying that Azam is aware of the configurat…

  12. 27:35

    That's why I tell you something. With that brief period of 10 hours, there's a lot of things that can be established internally. It could be a one phone phone away to just as a phone. What can I do? What can I provide? How do I back up? If …

  13. 29:30

    Because why? The Co-Maneco 2. On 3rd January, we switched, we took out the whole infrastructure including the Co-Swish. So, this has been discussed since the beginning of the project. When it was switched, it's not in the last year we discu…

  14. 31:06

    Sorry, tadi you punya last statement, you kata by January this year, there's salin kulit. That was the wave. So are you now seeing this migration this 15 until 17 is not even needed? It is needed, but it is not the actual implementation. Th…

  15. 36:16

    Then, I tried to call back then, I tried to call back then, I called back then, I was sent to Azam. This is called from Cik Dini, right? From Azam. Oh, this is Azam. It's not related to Azam. It's not related to Azam. It's not related to Az…

  16. 40:53

    And I think, not for IT, for all of this one, it's not the nature of it. So, if you don't mind, we can establish that you can do it. You can say that. But with a tendon and support from Azam, which is Azam assists or to give access. Physica…

  17. 44:45

    I don't want to go to that question. When you say dim concrete, is the one that you go to? The finding is Core 1, unable to communicate with UITM. So which is mean the same issue happened on 16th October. So that's the finding, the same ide…

  18. 49:08

    So, we had a take based on that, on the 15th. Okay, I have a bit struggled on this position, take. I think Jay mentioned three things. Competency, on one hand, you conquer as long as it may not be up to the mark. On the other hand, you also…

  19. 54:42

    So basically, it has to be provided during the novel. And actually for Raup, there are not many documents that exist. But in the founder, in Raup, there is everything that exists in there. The password is all in it. So, analogi dia sama mac…

  20. 55:45

    So this one atas ni semua is okay? Okay so I, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, That is usually what I'm saying. Let's check back the document…

  21. 57:07

    But, if Srin Fatih's statement, to Azam, I don't have to enter, it must be the same. Is it the same or is it not the same? Right, it is the same. This is the default password and the document. I don't have to do it. But I don't have to ente…

  22. 1:02:12

    Patutnya sama, Fatin cakap. Cuba Azam. Salah. So, this is call switch. We are talking about number one or number two? This is call switch. This is call switch two. And provided by Azam is call switch one. This is part of the question, call …

  23. 1:03:21
    Chapter 24: And at 11. 60s · Speaker 3

    And at 11.30pm, I tried to call again and gagal. The manager of the U.N.A.M.S.A.L.M.S.A.L.M.S.A.L.M.S.A.L.M.S.A.L.M.S.A.L.M.S.A.L.M.S.A.L.M.S.A.L.M.S.A.L.M.S.A.L.M.S. 11.31. So, that's the big question mark. What happened here? That one tha…

  24. 1:04:21

    Do you want to find it? Do you want to find it? Do you want to find it? Do you want to find it? Do you want to find it? Do you want to find it? Do you want to find it? That's why CO1 completed on 15 because they are able to retract back fro…

  25. 1:05:32

    I don't understand why I don't understand why I don't understand. Because online too, I suppose, when I remember, at that time, if you look at the issue, he doesn't have to proceed. Maksudnya, Azam, he doesn't have to proceed. So, he stoppe…

  26. 1:09:10

    and that system to work with SIT because we really need to manage this otherwise my team has already hit my head. I really appreciate it. On one hand, we acknowledge what happened in the past three months. So naturally, I don't know if I'm …

  27. 1:14:27

    Because our call 2 actually is, it doesn't work. The call 2 is missing the password. So basically on 16th, that's the size. Talking about MTS data, MTS is under you. MTS is under you. Why did you get that? MTS data? They are remote. They ar…

  28. 1:15:45

    I think he's not aware that for switch at that time, for switch 2, actually it's not required. Okay, I have problem digesting when you keep saying issue of competency. If we as a head, acknowledge our team are not competent, where do we do …

  29. 1:21:22

    We are not going to immediately hire a vendor at that time. We are not going to hire only because of the issues with the payment and the responsibility. There is a technical risk which is justified and there is also a risk on this thing or …

  30. 1:22:40

    But if someone is touching whatever configuration, I would have been very concerned because neither MTS would be there. So with this statement, it has no meaning. Because the word statement here, proceeding with that proper skillset L3 woul…

  31. 1:24:06

    Is Azam a witness? Yes. On your side, you do. Patin just, you don't have to contact you with Patin. But you don't have to contact you with Patin. most of the reason you're supposed to be on your phone you're not being physical and you only …

  32. 1:26:25

    if it's that risky, for all you know, they don't know what they're doing. Coming back, what can we define as success on the DT? You don't set expectations with customer. If I can see the show course later, you can write, what can I do to co…

  33. 1:27:32

    One thing Azam, you as a hit, I think Azamu had a maintenance? Azamu had a maintenance. Azamu had a maintenance. Oh. Azamu had a maintenance. Bila you nampak 15, you had a maintenance. As a hit, 16, he had a maintenance. You had a maintenan…

  34. 1:28:40
    Chapter 35: Don't mind. 76s · Speaker 1

    Don't mind. So I believe that you have to address the charges on up until fall. Up until fall. Because of, seems like this, it's like they've already got all the charges, all the explanation. I wanted to know how he, so actually 16, he didn…

  35. 1:29:58

    So we should... He still has a safe time. He is 16 years old. Based on the information that we gathered on the 15th. Can I echo for your explanation? Can you turn to pitch D7? Because I've already mentioned about your English string and MTI…

  36. 1:31:14

    So call 1 didn't set up on 15. So call 1 didn't set up on 15. So call 1 didn't set up on 15. So call 1 didn't set up on 15. So call 1 didn't set up on 15. Sorry sorry, call 2 didn't set up on 15. So call 1 didn't set up on 15. So call 1 did…

  37. 1:32:19

    Which is, it's not agile. It's not agile, that's why we don't think. Then, if your job is not ready, MTS must be finished. Then, arrange it with MTS. Thank you, Azam. Then, Azam takes it back to the link. He says, I think it's better to jus…

  38. 1:34:58

    So... And the Uptime is very high because of the internet. The internet is not a problem. So, I want to be able to do it. So, you didn't go back to evidence? After you were able to do the MTNs, then what happened? Then they were assigned fo…

  39. 1:40:09
    Chapter 40: with a zoom. 282s · Speaker 2

    with a zoom. So, it's settled. It's settled. It's settled. It's settled. It's settled. It's settled. It's settled. So, it's settled. It's settled. So, it's settled. It's settled. Oh, no. It's settled. Sorry. Malam. It's not me. I'm sorry. I…

  40. 1:44:58

    If you're not consistent, on one hand you... You don't want to bug them. On the other hand, you don't want to bug Shafiq. You want to kacau Azam because Azam is our team. Where is your communication to show that you actually exercise? That …

  41. 1:50:00

    There's a spot on the third two. I want to see if you want to see it. We don't have a phone. We don't have a phone. We have a phone call. We have a phone call on the 15th. 15th, what do you want? Do you know? What do you want? 15th, I want …

  42. 1:54:32
    Chapter 43: Good words. 57s · Speaker 2

    Good words. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. Just to echo to the... ITC, ICT group. You are in the group. Consisting your ITM crowd. Sir, your question tadi, the topic of eating coffee. I am just concerned that you seem to …

  43. 1:55:34

    So, coming back to my question, I just take property from him. He said that for 15 months, if one is going to happen, it would be good. So, what would you say about that? Because of UITM, they are not aware of how it works. So, they are not…

  44. 1:59:11

    I think I will communicate directly with you So far, based on the evidence of the military franchise, I don't have a combination with them. So, I assume that I don't think so. So, maybe if I can think of them. So, maybe if I can think of th…

  45. 2:01:29

    So we can correct me by brown, what do we need to call it? Actually, I think both of them can be jawed at the same time. We can talk about the directive. Charges are not complete or not, results or not, but it's more on failure to technical…

  46. 2:04:37

    But he's going to be angry He's going to be angry

  47. 2:06:05

    I'm not asking you to do it. You have to arrange after company business? If it's very quick, then you can do it. No, no. That's it. You enough, yes or no? Yes. So I'm afraid that he's not really paid because he's always... I said it's okay.…

  48. 2:12:01

    It's our chairman! It's the beginning! It's the beginning! It's the beginning! It's the beginning! It's the beginning! It's the beginning! It's the beginning! It's the beginning! It's the beginning! It's the beginning! It's the beginning! I…

  49. 2:13:17

    First question, what is your role in relation to this matter?

  50. 2:14:40

    So, during that time, during that time, during that time, Halfway, halfway, halfway, halfway. As a people eye, he said, boss, I don't want to see him. Okay, okay. So, he said, what about my day? He said, what about my day? He said, what abo…

  51. 2:20:00

    When they were in Kauasa 43A, they were in Kauasa 1. All of the corporations needed to decide. With the permission to be able to get out. So, if I want to get out, I want to get out. I want to get out. I want to add a little bit. I want to …

  52. 2:24:45

    The first statement you mentioned tadi, you have no idea what is happening until 16 because I've talked to you. 16. 16. 16. 16. 16. 16. 16. 16. 16. 16. 16. 16. 16. 16. Configuration. Configuration tu, saya tahu tak buat. Now, I know that yo…

  53. 2:30:01

    That's why we want to execute here. Because we switchers with server we are very important. They want to do it in 50 months. You, you, as long as you said, you've been in the last few months. I mean, in the last few months, you said that yo…

  54. 2:34:55

    Why don't we talk like this, like this, like this, like this? So, when I interview UIDM, I ask that UIDM is because we have dragged to UIDM as long as long as long as long as long as long as long as long as long as long as long as long as l…

  55. 2:40:00

    Bila dia hit the wall, dia tak boleh. Maksudnya dia, dia ambil tanpa jawab tu buat. Dia tak beritahu saya pun, dia bukan, bukan saya punya jurorskop. Jadi sepatutnya gini. Wimbos kena panggung dengan saya. Cuma dia bila, bila dia buat. Dia …

  56. 2:42:24

    Okay, I want to talk about that. The UIT Habitat has to have people in TAPAC, which is more than CA. They don't say that they can have people in TAPAC to study in TAPAC. So, I can see that the comment is not what he said. He said that in hi…

  57. 2:48:27

    So the reason being to echo to that statement to hence why the conversation only started at 9 because that is our turn. Then you can start at 6 or all across the park with two different sides. Bila sampai ke Rauh punya queue, kita tak dapat…

  58. 2:50:00

    I think we can go back to IT-IT-IT-IT-IT-IT-IT-IT-IT-IT. Then the day that happened, I didn't know what to say, but I asked her if she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said,…

  59. 2:53:14

    You were saying that you want here in December, about four months that they were able to enter, right? Question, since Azam is really below you, so in terms of progress, you are pretty aware. And then you also mentioned that there's not pre…

  60. 2:54:34

    Bukan jeje dia aku ni. Kerja aku ni bukan kerja aku ni. So sometimes, dia macam, tak nak buat apa pun. Bukan beyond dia punya ni. Contoh aku tukar masak. Kerja aku masak. Dia bukan nak suruh aku lupin meja. Mentar lah. Aku tahu aku lupin me…

  61. 2:55:45

    But... Adakah kerja aku? Betul lah. Berbaloi tak aku, dia beri gaji, buat benda je keti. Macam tu lah, saya cakap ni tu lah. Kalau aku dikira, okay. Tentang salah. Dia macam ni lah. Dia punya as a technician, it's a day to day operation. Ya…

  62. 2:57:52

    All right, Encik Azam. Okay, all right. So, Encik Azam, you are witness of domestic inquiry ni that you are required to jawab dengan betul and based on your knowledge yet. Boleh? All right. Okay, so, I nak tanya background dahulu. What is y…

  63. 3:02:55

    Okay, this is related to 3-4 times, if you get access to them, do not support them in the long time? I mean, when you do support them, what should they do? That's it. Okay. How long are you with the company? How long are you with the compan…

  64. 3:07:23

    MyRAN configuration and WAC firmware upgrade. Then pastu action taken config MyRAN of UITM core switch by follows the... Okay, I tak showing this one apa. Pastu upgrade the both UITM. Pastu second one do need for... I tak showing ni apa. te…

  65. 3:08:30

    But I didn't know about it, Azam, with my boss earlier, that MyRan's activities have been started. So that's what we... It's clear when you say that you only say that you only do it. So, when I talk to you earlier, how long did you talk abo…

  66. 3:10:52

    Maksudnya, sebelum kita buat configuration yang MTS Service Report yang you sign ni I try to understand the knowledge of Azam in many times. Because this is an issue that is a bit of a big configuration that is involved. So, normally it's b…

  67. 3:16:10

    Okay. Topic perbincangan adalah adakah berkaitan dengan MyRat ataupun benda lain? Okay. So, Fatin suruh awak standby sajalah pada 15 hari bulan pagi tu. Malam-malam. Okay. Okay. Saya banyak tanya ni, Azam, tapi kamu kata kamu tak tahu now p…

  68. 3:18:35

    Adakah kamu tahu bahawa UITM pun dia punya sistem pun tak review waktu tu? Betul tak? Tak tahu. Okay. Normally line of communication between IT site dengan IT HQ, how does that work normally? Tak tahu you punya line of communication dengan …

  69. 3:20:00

    In Azam, during 2 days, 15 and 16 days of the month, HOM said that he told you that everything is in order. Everything is okay. And you didn't tell the problem about what happened when 15 or 16 days of the month. You didn't talk to him. The…

  70. 3:22:21

    Azam, you said the word you, ITM, sya'alam, tolong. Tolong apa ya? Nak just, nak get clarity. Dia tolong configure. Dia configure, how do they tolong configure when kita patut tahu how to configure? The remote PC you. How do they do that? T…

  71. 3:27:24

    Okay, so from your side, you don't have access to any password. By virtue of sharing this password, the ownership basically is all across the border. It's no longer by selection. If it's not here, then who will? It's what I'm a bit lost. So…

  72. 3:28:33

    that you said that you didn't get full support from HQ. Do you mind to illustrate that for you? Do you agree with what Encik Razim said? Yes, actually, Encik Razim said that Encik Razim said that Encik Razim said that Encik Razim said that …

  73. 3:31:09

    I want to ask you a little bit more. You can just say yes or not. Do HQ provide adequate technical oversight and support? Yes or no? Okay, alright. Thank you. Untuk yang lagi satu saya nak tanya, adakah pihak HQ memberi proper access ataupu…

  74. 3:34:22

    Can I just know, in the past, bila you perlukan support daripada HQ, how do you initiate that support to ask them to be there for you? Like, ada orang ke? Ada email ke? Ataupun naturally, whenever from time to time, your ITM panggil, you st…

  75. 3:38:57

    Did you call him for an update? MTS came in on 16 to help you. Do you update him? How do you update him? Your last communication is pukul 6.19. MTS only came in at 6.00.

  76. 3:40:00

    Did you update him on 16, MTS datang? Or to do remotely? Yeah, remote. Okay. So is there any update on 16 to you, to Dini? From you? So once MTS on board, you do not need help anymore. Once MTS datang, you don't need help anymore. Betul? To…

  77. 3:45:34

    Oh, for October 1st? That's it for December. 15 December. 15 December, we already have the password. But the configuration according to Azam, it's not settled. So, who will settle that? If you ask Azam, it will settle. Azam, the configurati…

  78. 3:47:21

    the configuration coming from Shalam because it's not from our configuration, it's not our configuration, it's not our configuration. So, we didn't have it. So, we didn't have it? We didn't have it. We didn't have it in 2016. But, we didn't…

  79. 3:52:36

    We have a letter, but we don't use a letter. We are calling-calling. So I learn. That seems to be the position taken by Dini, hence why there was no one stand-by because there was no request made. Are they official or verbal? Apparently it …

  80. 3:58:04

    Okay, well you don't have anything. Okay, well you don't have anything.

  81. 3:59:51

    How long have you been rugby for a few years? Do you have any knowledge regarding about Myran before? We were told that on 15th of October, not December, you are in Raouk. 15th of December, on the day of configuration for Myran. Ataupun req…

  82. 4:05:05

    Okay, if you want to hear it wrong, where are you? Sistem record at Rafflin Holdings. Oh, kat sini. Pukul 8.25. Clock in, clock out pun 5.25. Kat sini. Kat sini. Kat sini. Kat sini. Kat sini. Kat sini. Kat sini. Kat sini. Kat sini. Kat sini…

  83. 4:08:45

    Minta call switch. Password. Wouldn't it phone on 15 hari bulan? So you did not inform Khatyn as well? But Azam go to you on that malam. You're lost conversation with Fatim and Azam? So, I share je. So, why did you call? I said that before …

  84. 4:10:30

    Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. He said Fatin is not involved. Fatin is not involved. Fatin is not involved. He has password. The password is in the group, right? So Fatin is not invol…

  85. 4:12:13

    You're doing sourcing. NTS is not going to buy. October. October, I had to do P&E. But, Poashikin said that the company was not under us because it was using ECOS. So, it was moving to the budget of the MRF. So, I felt like it was because i…

  86. 4:13:23

    in work, because the payment order is under round. So, Dini, after the last year, Dini knew that 16 months ago, it was not going to pay, right? That's right. So, I was in meeting today. 18.11. So, I was under the round for my rent first. So…

  87. 4:15:10

    And when I put on the system, I called Razin. Before I request from MTSC, I called Razin. So, I told them that they would request from a high vendor to settle issues. But I don't think the government is saying that you're talking about the …

  88. 4:16:41

    So, we need to say not naturally formal, it's flexible. Even by WhatsApp or phone call, you will turn up to help. If there is no document, you are not going to go down When you say remote, how do you assess how long to be remote and how lon…

  89. 4:18:08

    Sometimes it's not true. For example, if the server is down, sometimes I can remove it. So, if it's possible to recover, it's okay. It's possible to use the thumb system. Okay. So, we can remove it. Then, if I can remove it, I can remove it…

  90. 4:20:00

    If for AP, it's better to know and experience. But there are certain items such as procurement, what I'm doing now, payment and all that I'm doing. I think it's better to do it. I think it's better to do it. It's not that we need to do it. …

  91. 4:22:48

    They can look at me as a contact channel for HQ and then, Azam. This is where any email, there's only me, there's also an invitation. So, there's also an invitation. So, there's also an invitation. They're not going to send me a password. I…

  92. 4:28:18

    So, did you still serve that four times? Ataupun he managed all that form? For this year, we... 2025? 2025, yeah. We joined all that form. When you couldn't join, meaning to sit, he championed that? You guys only come from there? We serve i…

  93. 4:29:53

    In terms of executive in Now, is it, there is an executive and there is a tradition in the workshop? Yes, there is one. There is two. There is two. There is two. Okay, exactly, not the office. You guys send me to me. Okay, alright, thank yo…

  94. 4:32:34

    because if they're wrong, they're wrong. If they're wrong, they're wrong. At least it's not the first time that I met. When I looked at it, overall, the objective is to make sure of my friend I support. So, when I was able to answer it, I s…

  95. 4:34:34

    Okay, that's my mind. Okay, Sam. Hello, saya. Hello. I rasa macam itulah juga lebih kurang. Cumanya, I think ultimately, bila kita tahu benda macam ni, I think they, banyak issue. Macam, you dah dapat email daripada ATM tu. Sepatutnya, I wo…

  96. 4:39:05

    That's why I emphasis on the charge. The charge itself is very loosely worth it. You don't need to take and find spectral data, you lack nothing here. You have problem with your document. Bila you have established 15 hours, you should have …

  97. 4:44:22

    He didn't reply. He needs to know what he needs to know. then to MTS, pukul 2 petang, and then MTS will be there. But again, he wanted out, it's just merely for verification. But clearly, the WhatsApp says something else. So, I really don't…

  98. 4:48:00

    This is the issue, right? This is the issue, right? In terms of leadership, the gravity is huge. I don't see it as small. Pada tempat saya, dia dah buat asma. Dia dah buat asma, pada saya. Even if it, pun kalau kita tengok pada siapa ni, si…

  99. 4:52:08

    that they want to launch it. It's not. They only need to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to. If the thing is not important, the preparation does not need to do so much. And now, October has been established. We as a head…

  100. 4:54:10

    So, DC nanti kita akan combing. Pada hari ini, nanti kita akan present balik to DC dan kita akan accept from them. So, benda ni, kalau boleh, ada lesson. So, this lesson, HR minta, kita yang kena cakap nama dirah, tapi as a lesson ke apa ni…

  101. 4:55:17

    I pun tak nampak the agency. Sepatutnya from your account, bila datang email your account, kita dah betul-betul macam, what next? Apa dah penyesusnya tak ada? And bila benda tu as a head, tak nampak benda tu, dia tak nampak benda tu, dan ta…