26.07.30 meeting 1
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I'll go see where they are.
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I
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thought we had a laptop with help.
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Morning.
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Which
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laptop? A laptop.
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He said
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no. So did
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you get a chance to finish yours?
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Not the presentation.
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So I will post the point.
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It's a very good book.
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I feel it's what we have been looking for.
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So I don't want to rush it.
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Every chapter is very important with very specific details that can
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be applied.
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So it needs more time.
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We can have Christina's presentation later today,
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if you're available,
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Jim, online.
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Online,
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yeah.
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What time works best for you?
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1 .30 would be good,
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I think.
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Okay.
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The
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Great Indoors.
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Yeah, there you go.
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Okay,
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so we're all here.
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Yeah, this book is called The Great Indoors,
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and it's very wide -ranging,
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and some of it will apply to us.
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and others not.
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It's got about eight or nine chapters.
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The first chapter is very simple.
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It's called The Indoor Jungle.
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They have good titles to the chapters.
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There's an indoor jungle,
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and it basically says that everywhere we are indoors is
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a jungle of microbes and bacteria.
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And we can't avoid millions of them all over the place.
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Everywhere you look.
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And so it's very,
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very, very simple.
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And basically it says that the
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The best way to deal with it is to keep everything dry because everything that's wet
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they multiply and it's so dry
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and also hard surfaces.
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Everything hard service.
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No carpets,
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no textiles,
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no nothing.
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Which obviously doesn't work in most situations.
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But they said that's the only way to really control all the
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microbes.
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So you've just got to deal with it.
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Keep everything clean and clean and dry as possible.
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So that didn't help us very much.
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It's going to be so loud.
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The next chapter is called Your Own Hospital Room.
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And it's basically dealing with hospital rooms that basically...
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don't necessarily help people heal on their own by themselves.
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So a lot of people experimented with different ways
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to deal with hospital rooms to make people better.
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And again,
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it was very simple.
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Basically that hospital rooms that were closed off
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dark.
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Young people just got worse.
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So the idea was to have as much windows as possible
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in a hospital room.
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Have views of nature outside,
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which will help people.
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Lots of sunlight in the room.
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And biophilia,
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of course, to bring the outdoors indoors as much as possible.
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You know,
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the colors, the paintings on the wall,
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that kind of thing.
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Plants.
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They even say pets.
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Having pets in a hospital room really helps.
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You know,
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it's interesting because you think the pets would have a lot of microbes on them.
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Yeah.
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And a quiet room
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with sound -absorbing surfaces helps.
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an open,
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uncluttered space,
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so the person who's in that room can be able to control
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their environment.
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Sounds very simple.
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Then the next chapter is called Stair Master,
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and it basically is that movement is very good.
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It helps everybody.
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That the more you can move around,
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the healthier you will be.
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So, for instance,
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walkable,
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this is not in terms of the room,
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the indoor rooms,
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but everywhere.
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Walkable neighborhoods.
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Walkable neighborhoods is healthy.
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To have stairs that people,
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usually stairs are just very functional,
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so the more you can make stairs attractive,
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so that people take the stairs rather than the elevator,
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would help.
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So in terms of outdoors,
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the walkable neighborhoods,
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the multi -use wide paths,
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which we're doing now in Pusico,
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and you see a lot of them in the city now,
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eight or ten foot wide paths for people to walk,
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roller play,
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bike, all on one path.
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Also have artwork
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in the stairs and music to make the stairs more
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attractive for people to use.
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An indoor gym helps in an environment.
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Climbing wall,
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standing height desks so that nobody's sitting down
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all the time.
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That means standing height desk or optional height desk so you can stand
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or sit, stand or sit.
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And gardens outdoors for people to walk in.
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and healthy food available also.
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So in any kind of a public building,
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rather than have junk food available,
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pop and that sort of thing,
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have healthy food.
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So basically that chapter is all about moving,
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moving around,
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making it more attractive to move.
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Then the next chapter is called Cure for
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the Common Cubicle,
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which is in an open office.
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And this one was a little bit,
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they weren't as direct as to what you should
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do as a cure for the common cubicle.
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Basically they said that it's been recognized
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that open offices are not that great for people
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because they're noisy,
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they're distracting,
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they spread germs among people,
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that sort of thing.
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And also the office environment,
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you've got to say cold and dark is
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not good.
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And that's probably pretty obvious,
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right? It should be a good warm temperature and light,
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a lot of light.
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And so the other thing is that activity -based offices are
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very good.
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In other words, a variety of different types of offices.
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Now this is probably well known.
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I think you've probably read this in a lot of the places like Amazon and
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Google and Apple have taken this to heart and have various
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types of rooms for different types of activities.
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In other words,
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there is a place for some open offices,
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some open area where people can mingle.
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and they get to know each other and communicate.
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Then also some private offices,
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even some places for
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people to just get away and sit for a while by themselves,
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that sort of thing.
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So basically it's workspaces for different tasks.
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So a variety of different spaces for different tasks in
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an office.
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And we could probably use that in the...
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in the upstairs of the Tribal Health Centre for where
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the offices are because the Tribal Health Centre will be a mix of public areas
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and probably doctors' offices and nurses' offices and that kind of thing.
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So a variety of different spaces,
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we could use that.
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And also lots of greenery
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in an office improves health and productivity they found.
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And a worker control over their environment is a good idea.
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So in other words,
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if the worker has a bit of control over where they go,
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what they do,
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that sort of thing,
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which is a lot based not so much on...
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The design of the place is on the organization and
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the management of the place.
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There's an interesting one.
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Chapter 5 is called Full Spectrum.
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It has limited
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access to us,
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but what they mean by full spectrum here is the full spectrum of autism.
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Basically, what this chapter deals with is people with
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cognitive and neurological problems.
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I guess it mainly
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deals with those kind of people,
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but I suppose it could be applied to everybody in a way that not everybody
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is all the same.
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So they start off by saying people with physical disabilities
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are now being recognized by codes.
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So buildings are being built for people with physical disabilities.
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But they're not necessarily being built for
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people with cognitive or neurological disabilities.
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They list a
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few. Autism,
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PTSD,
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Tourette's Syndrome,
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ADHD.
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A lot of people have,
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some people have,
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you know, this whole range of disabilities that people have.
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And each one of them has different needs.
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Now that's always a challenge then because how do you provide a space
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that suits everybody?
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Now there is a thing you publicly can't.
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But for instance,
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PTSD people become anxious with narrow passages and
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blind corners.
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People with autism,
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migraines or epilepsy are exquisitely sensitive to
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sensory stimuli like light and sound.
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So open offices and loud restaurants become a nightmare for
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them.
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They also said,
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in regard to this,
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we used to say accessible design,
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meaning the wheelchair design,
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but now we're talking about universal design.
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I think we all know that,
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right? But I don't think universal design
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has ever come to deal with,
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at least in practice,
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has come to deal with all these neurological problems.
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So they say spaces that serve the widest range of people,
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if you could do that.
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Because it's very difficult because they say that those people,
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some people have sensory stimuli
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like light and sound makes them crazy.
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Other people with other kinds of like this sensory stimulation.
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So when I read that I said,
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well, what do you do?
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I don't know what you can do in that case.
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One architectural firm designed a hospital.
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It's the Gardner Neuroscience Institute
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at the University of Cincinnati for people with neurological relations.
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That hospital was designed with wide hallways with a lot of windows,
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and they wrapped the windows with a mesh that diffused sunlight.
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Matter of fact,
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that's the way they described it,
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a mesh that diffused sunlight.
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looked at it.
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The windows didn't look,
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it wasn't wrapped,
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but there may have been a film on the window that diffused the sunlight a little
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bit.
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So that may be something that we could have a lot of windows,
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but perhaps diffuse the sunlight a little so that it's not so
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stark.
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They
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also talk about a book for full -spectrum housing,
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designing for adults with autism spectrum disorders.
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So that doesn't really help us very much because it's designed specifically
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for autism.
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It contains guidelines for some who are overwhelmed
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by sensory stimulation.
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Does it say what the book is called?
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Because I might grab that for my own.
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I think it's called Designing for Adults with Autism
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Spectrum Disorders.
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Designing for Adults with Autism Spectrum Disorders.
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And the next one is called Jailbreakers,
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and this is also lessons from the prison environment.
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So we talked about,
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that's what I say,
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it's a very wide -ranging book.
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But it talks about,
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first of all,
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it starts that jails,
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the way they are now,
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most jails,
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are designed to punish.
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That's what they're designed for.
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They're not designed for rehabilitation.
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And there's still the option of,
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what do we call it,
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when they're confined to a cell,
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isolation.
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Like solitary confinement?
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Solitary confinement,
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yeah. They say that that's still being used,
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and it's being used for people who are very uncontrolled.
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However,
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they find it's extremely damaging to
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those people.
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They come out way worse than when they went in.
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Some people are in there for months,
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and so the lesson there is that isolation
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is really bad.
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So there's been a number of,
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what they talk about is a number of ways that...
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Designers of prisons have tried to address the
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design of prisons.
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They're called reformers and they want to help,
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not punish the people that are in there,
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to rehabilitate them.
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One example was a Philadelphia Eastern State Penitentiary.
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They tried solitude and isolation.
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In other words,
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they said, you know,
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put all these crazy criminals
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all together and it just becomes madhouse.
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So they said,
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everybody, we're going to give a real nice environment.
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Everybody has their own room.
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It's a really nice room.
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They even have an outdoor garden that's there,
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but they're completely isolated.
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In other words,
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they don't mix.
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So they tried that for a while.
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It was very peaceful and orderly,
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but it was not therapeutic.
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People did not come out much better because they were isolated.
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So the lesson is that sensory monotony causes
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stress.
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Sensory monotony causes stress.
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Another lesson is that humans are social
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animals.
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They need contact.
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Loneliness and social isolation.
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produces stress and high blood pressure,
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inflammation and poor immune system.
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So that's interesting,
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that loneliness and social isolation produce stress,
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blood pressure,
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inflammation and poor immune system.
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Another one,
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an example of a Halden prison in Norway,
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they had a 20 -foot wall right around the prison,
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but it was made to be like a small village inside.
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walking trails,
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gardens,
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art installation,
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rock climbing walls,
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music, studios,
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etc.
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And that was deemed to be very good for the
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people to rehabilitate them.
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In the United States,
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one is called Las Colinas Detention and Reentry Facility.
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It has an open park -like canvas with walking trails
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where security is inconspicuous.
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And they had cubicles instead of cells.
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That's interesting.
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So there were no cells.
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It was like an open room with little cubicles with all the people mixed together.
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Which is kind of interesting because that's a bit of the open office concept.
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What is the purpose of doing that?
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Pardon?
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What is the purpose of doing that?
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It is to allow social integration and
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a nicer atmosphere so
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that the prisoners feel like they're being helped.
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They're not there for punishment,
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they're there for rehabilitation.
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So that was the lesson on jailbreakers.
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And the next one is if these walls could
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talk, listen and record.
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And this is interesting.
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It's about smart technology,
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smart home technology.
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For instance,
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they say now they have smart mattresses.
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Now, I don't think this is going to help them very much.
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They have smart mattresses that collect their data on your sleep
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quality, respiration and heart rate.
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And this is for healing.
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So it's for personal
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health monitoring.
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And they're saying that the future is smart home health
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monitoring.
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So that's called a smart home,
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but I don't know if it would help us in our situation.
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But the seniors,
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for instance, they now have,
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these are things that they've tried,
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that people have actually tried these things.
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One is floor monitors that monitor how
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you walk.
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interesting enough because and also since if you fall
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down like when you fall down people wear these things that if you fall down
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it phones somebody but you've got to wear it so people don't wear it on
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so this one the floor will detect if they fall down right
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and then send a message to the health care providers and
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the bed monitoring also now records restlessness
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how many times you get up at night how good is your sleep
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And we have bath tubs that detect your heart rate.
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We have toilets that detect dehydration,
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kidney disease,
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diabetes.
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mirrors that detect moles,
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eye problems and dental plaque.
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Now the
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dangers of this is privacy invasion.
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That these things could be hacked,
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companies could use the information to sell products,
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and insurers can use the information to cut off your insurance.
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So there's a high and
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low income disparity,
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only the high income people could afford it.
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And it also separates us from human interaction with the doctors.
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So I thought it was interesting,
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but it wouldn't really help us that much.
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It's kind of scary,
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actually.
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The next one is,
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again,
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this definitely won't help us.
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It's called Hope Floats.
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And it's about the problem
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of floods in a lot of areas.
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This woman who started this,
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who lives with English,
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was devastated by the floods in New Orleans,
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where all the buildings,
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you know, with the hurricane Katrina,
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all the buildings got flooded.
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So there are a number of places
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that have designed houses that float.
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In a flood,
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if you can believe it.
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It started off in
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Bayland,
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Peru, which is called the Venice of Latin America,
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which floods often.
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And people build their houses on logs or barrels
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so that when it floods,
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they float up.
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Now,
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some people have developed
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that and made concrete foundations with
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a steel pile in the middle of each concrete foundation and a sleeve
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that the house sits on.
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So when it floods,
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the house rises up on the stoves.
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Interesting.
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So in New Orleans,
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they've done that.
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They've done successfully.
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These things have done success in the Mekong Delta in Vietnam.
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They did it and they worked perfectly during the monsoon season.
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In Bangladesh,
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they used empty water bottles,
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so the buoyancy material.
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And interestingly,
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you think this doesn't have any application here,
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but this woman has received a grant from the Canadian National Research
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Council to test prototypes in Canada.
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Now, the goal here is cheap and easy do -it -yourself homeowner projects,
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not developed so a homeowner can do it themselves.
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And in England,
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one architectural firm has designed a buoyant three -bedroom home on an island
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in the Thames.
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Then they also,
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I don't know,
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they call it Hope Floats in this one,
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but they've also got a section on...
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in this chapter on emergency shelters for
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disasters,
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which are basically earth domes.
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emergency type housing where they have sandbags that
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are that have barbed wire in between each layer and each layer is each
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layer is put in if they put them in a circle and each layer is a little bit
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in from the next one so basically you get an igloo out of sandbags for
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emergency homes for disasters so interesting
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but not that relevant to it and
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Yeah, the last one is Blueprints for the Red Planet.
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They talk about the fact that lessons
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learned on Earth could be adaptable to space and travel.
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And they say long -term,
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humans will have habitations on the Moon and Mars,
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which they're looking at.
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Jeff Bezos is looking at Moon habitation,
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and Elon Musk is looking at Mars habitation.
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So the interior environments are the key,
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not exterior environments.
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So these environments,
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as on Earth,
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shape our sleep patterns,
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stress,
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health,
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behavior,
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happiness,
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