NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1)
Sep 18, 2026 04:28
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But can you otherwise engage them?
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
Or is there a thing that we would like to see for each
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series?
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Speaker 3 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
way forward.
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
The next two years,
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
we'll use two for implementation rather than still
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
doing intellectual debate on what's to be done.
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
If you're still in that field,
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Speaker 1 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
we might say,
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
you're still in a gray zone,
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Speaker 3 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
nothing much is going to happen.
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
So you're being overambitious.
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
So if you would like your proposal to ideally say
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
that we've done this wrong work,
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
tomorrow it might change.
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
But at least on the note,
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
let's not say that we're exploring this,
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
we're exploring that.
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
They're doing this.
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
So some clarity on the way forward should be presented.
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
It might change.
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
That's not a problem.
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
But a clear message needs to come that we've done.
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
We've come to progress so far.
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
This is the clear roadmap going ahead for the next two years.
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
That's how we put the four
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-five -page restructuring.
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The backup tool.
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that an endorsement,
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
an agreement is what we will be trying to do.
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
So just wanted to play the context of why
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we need to,
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
that's how it will be viewed in our internal
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business.
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Speaker 1 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
and also how we plan our future projects.
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There are two aspects,
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first to develop the development of our strategy,
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Speaker 1 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
and not just secondly,
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Speaker 1 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
how we try to do this in the
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ground university and university.
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Speaker 1 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
Since then we have done what we
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have done.
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Speaker 4 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
In
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this state,
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as we plan,
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completed our exceptional section.
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Then now,
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Speaker 1 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
we have realised our real world,
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Speaker 1 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
We have realised that is where we have to go.
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Speaker 1 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
Our work is
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to streamline our next step.
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But according to the ministry,
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Speaker 1 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
it has to take a few months and not
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be expected.
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Speaker 4 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
Anyway,
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Speaker 1 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
that is not going to cost that because I do.
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Speaker 1 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
It's not going to value it.
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Speaker 1 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
Stay excited to study more.
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
It is worth the time having been
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invested.
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There is no point rushing into something just for the sake of time.
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Speaker 2 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
Sometimes we imagine a certain PWA,
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a certain scope,
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but they actually go deep dive.
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They realize that there are some other issues which need to be
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addressed.
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Extra time invested.
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This is probably worse to understand
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what we should be addressed.
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Speaker 4 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
it is
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but
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Speaker 4 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
because
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we are
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in some
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and
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and
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and
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and
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and
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and
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and
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how we choose every one,
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and how we know in terms of the ecology,
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and the land,
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and the scale,
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and the business.
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to suit the preliminary consequences and
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also the general practices and discussion.
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Then now we are in some kind of
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practice,
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And because we cannot compare any other countries,
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general practices should be administered by mandate.
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We are difficult to
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manage benchmarking under the country.
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Because our important strategy is a little bit different,
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our mandate is a little bit beneficial.
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So all it is okay,
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it is right with the industry requirement.
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Speaker 1 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
What is reporting and other compulsory reporting requirements
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are different from other countries.
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Speaker 4 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
Therefore,
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Speaker 1 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
we are a little bit difficult in benchmarking sometimes,
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Speaker 1 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
but only we have to have such a benchmarking
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country to develop.
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that is smart
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Speaker 1 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
and secondly then once we complete we have to develop our own
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Speaker 1 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
functionalization process yesterday
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also we had some to discuss about our
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basic id plus structure of the vision
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of the mission basically uh in addition how to be
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developed and then i was to give some
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Speaker 3 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
kind of brief uh
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Speaker 1 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
Our infrastructure are not related,
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our people are not related.
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Therefore, we want to be ready for that kind of issue.
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Speaker 4 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
You know,
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the first problem is to give the detail,
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what I know,
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and the art.
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Then we can assess what are the sustainable
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resources.
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Now with the MSNL,
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what's to be purchased?
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Speaker 1 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
Or we can allow the organization to do that.
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Then the resources will be provided.
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In addition,
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our main issue is the participant's aim is to be working.
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Speaker 1 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
It's developed within the medicine and all.
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By some of
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the self -products,
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Speaker 1 (NAOSL - World Bank Review Meeting-20260917_101444-Meeting Recording 1 (1))
we see as per our understanding,
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KPMG also,
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I don't know whether that's right.
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But anyway,
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as per our understanding,
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they also introduce
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a kind of opposite.
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and customize it to the company.
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Then I hear from behind or so,
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we agree with that,
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you know,
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I'm going to be close with it still,
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but I'm sexually,
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in principality,
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agree to have that kind of solution.
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Then,
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when someone was searching out
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of the department and the supermarket,
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we tried to do some searching.
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in relation to the universe.
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In addition,
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we had a discussion with the idea.
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It's not for
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this purpose,
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but while we are discussing with the particular,
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my brother,
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I've got to emphasize that we are in the process of,
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like, says,
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you know, it lies in the universe,
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but it goes on.
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Then we are searching some of the software.
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We have a really option of our care,
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even problems.
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Then we should talk about this step.
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So we have to let me think it's been great to be something
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that I just want to think.
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This is what they are used to in prosely countries.
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In addition,
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they arranged another special demonstration about
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that all the phones were
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and
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I was so confused to understand that particular
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subject, but they agreed to have another meeting,
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and when I stood here,
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I didn't need an understanding
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of what is happening,
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that is also there.
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Then that is the main thing,
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it will be happening,
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we will discuss,
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and we cannot do that,
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whether it is suitable for our context,
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whether it is customized to the local.
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In addition,
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as per the business and captain of the community,
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the Indian
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side also have some
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intention to give some demonstration upon the person.
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This is the decision.
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Then our understanding is that clearly now we have really
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understood where we have to stay.
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Then the only problem is when the time we are here
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is purely,
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even if it is new or not,
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purely we are in big trouble with the nine months or
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five months,
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seven months ago,
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in this limited time,
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camp has been built.
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But anyway,
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this is the most
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In terms of the time availability,
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we had a meeting with the European Union,
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they said we can go up with two years.
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Yes.
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November 2020,
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the problem
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is in
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terms of the rebidding that has to be successfully
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concluded for the extension.
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Right now the technical evaluation is going on.
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to kind of move back into the prerequisite.
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If that is done,
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I think both our country and we don't
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want the country to lose the grants.
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There were some
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complaints also.
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We can separate it now.
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First,
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we haven't visualized that situation.
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That gets dropped completely.
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But then still some money will get cancelled.
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We don't want the grant funds to get
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cancelled.
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It's called grant funds.
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Unutilized is close to 6
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million.
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6 million you will set more money.
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No, overall 6 million.
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But you also,
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your utilization also less.
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Still working on parallel tracks.
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Less market,
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less focus on getting all of our courses clear.
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So what I would say,
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instead of 90 months,
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we have slightly longer time prepared.
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I said that we can compete with this process.
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Because only in the sense we can even know that
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if we have such kind of dreams,
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how we do not want to stay
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more with the procurement process.
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So only in the sense,
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we have experienced the evolving,
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this concern also,
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we have to spend a lot of time.
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I'm born here,
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you are the woman and some type of the debunk
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issue with the EKS and then there are a
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number of issues.
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So I'm expecting something that's better and I'm
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worried about the same person normally says,
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then we have to worry about it.
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Then it is,
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yeah,
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there was some,
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some, some prayer.
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maybe you should be working because of this one
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i think we can do a power one
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which is
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uh everyone from our side uh just i don't know what it's
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not supposed to say
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One thing that we basically deliberated,
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developing the manual rules and getting the strategy now,
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is how they are going to operate with the short -term,
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and what is the wrong condition.
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So this is where we basically wanted
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to be very careful.
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selecting the benchmarks so we have you know different grounds with
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different countries and you know and you know the features that you
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know we have constructed it's kind of a multisputed countries
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that we have selected on different different aspects of it but
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keeping the one or two countries as basically
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The second,
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in terms of developing the,
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this you're talking about broader,
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broader space.
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And then
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in terms of developing the materials,
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I think,
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anyway,
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still,
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you know,
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legal requirements are slightly different,
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you know, so we had to strike the balance.
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but keeping any,
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you know, 10 years and 10 years adaptability for the future.
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So this is where we have decided to develop different manuals
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to different industry,
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but to accommodate sectional cultural environment,
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so on and so forth,
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develop another manual with a kind of intelligent evolution.
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This has been deliberated with both the parties and claim.
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And now I think we have kind of concurrence with the,
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on the approach,
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with the co -group.
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And the second...
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Okay, so just to elaborate,
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we will have different angles.
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There is a clarity that there is a real situation of now actually working
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on the end.
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Sorry,
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just to go
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back to Michael's point,
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the restructure,
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you could say on this,
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there is a support on the study.
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This is, these are the gap analytics,
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right? And there's a clear way forward on development of the way to explain.
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This is really done in the next part of the years.
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So the major part
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of discussion goes,
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you know, yes.
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If you go to most of the countries,
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you will see financial or internal security,
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performance or internal security,
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and internal security.
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So we are keeping the same structure as it is.
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So it is our requirement,
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other than the,
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you know, the financial statement that we need,
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right, there are so many others,
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especially at the same time in Excel.
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So how do we know in all these aspects?
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Given the staff,
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you know,
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the harder aspect that they have,
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and they have visited almost 50 kilometers?
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Yes.
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that we have gone there and understood how they operate.
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And to address
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some of these aspects,
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whether we can meet an expert,
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whether it's really practical,
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given the resource limitations currently.
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So those aspects are basically discussed
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at length.
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This is why we have provisions for these
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members separately,
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when the experiment grows.
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and develop different units for the specialization,
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so that the manuals can be used as it is.
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But for the short run,
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to manage the requirement based on that,
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we will develop as a
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special manual.
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So in case these requirements are changed also,
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there is still you will have a manual structure which can
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be used next number of years.
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So in terms of actual practice,
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I think the problem would come on there.
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ability to comment on the performance of the
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SOE.
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SOE has certain mandate and as auditors they
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have to normally in other jurisdictions,
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which captures that
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performance etc.
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The auditors are not expected to comment on what
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their financial performance is,
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what their risks are etc.
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which normally comes in.
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Obviously, if the numbers itself is wrong,
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it will come out by way of a qualification,
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understatement,
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overstatement,
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etc.
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in your report.
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So it actually comes to practice.
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Suppose you are doing auditing CPC.
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And now there is a statement of intent also
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in the PFM Act.
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Major SOEs are required to do a statement of
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intent, forward -looking,
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and also report back to the parliament.
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I don't know if you've seen the PFM Act,
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there is a section on SOAs.
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They are expected to report back to the positive also.
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So primarily,
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coming from an accounting domain,
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you don't know the business.
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So how does it actually work
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in practice?
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So under manuals can be developed,
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but how does it actually,
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do they give you the basic inputs for you to be able to have a
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view on
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to comment on their performance.
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How does it actually work?
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I don't know.
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If you've seen any,
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if you've seen reports and said there's a gap in quality
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or they are not able to do justice to it,
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if you're going to invest some time to understand that,
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then otherwise it'll just be nice English and
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what people need to be trained on.
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And that's the point that you mentioned,
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we need to bring it some experts for the large say.
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10 SOAs,
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not everybody,
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for banking,
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who understands banking.
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There are so many nuances in banking
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and insurance,
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etc.
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So,
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can we just kind of spend some time doing this?
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Yes.
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Actually,
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Mr. Martin,
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it's really,
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it's not only for the public enterprise,
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it will continue after every
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kind of work.
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which must be given to publish India with respect to
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advent, especially for the sex and evolution,
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sex and president of the first learning time.
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All the reports,
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not only the finance and medicine,
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that is in the other aspects of so hard,
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but not yet.
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Then that has become a practice now.
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That's become a practice now.
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In Edison,
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The Nassau Audit in Addison and the Nassau Audit Act 6
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and 12 specifically saying that these
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these information should be verified by the Nassau Audit in Addison,
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included with the Auditor General's report of
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the respective PI.
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Therefore,
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we cannot...
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No, I am not saying here.
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Why? How
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good is your ability to deliver on that project?
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Is there a gap in terms of the skill sets?
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Yes.
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Because we don't understand that business of the SOE so well
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as those running the SOE,
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right? So is there something in terms of capacity?
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I'm not at any point in time saying you should stop doing it.
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Because for that,
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you need to amend the SOE.
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So we're not going beyond that.
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In addition to what he was talking about,
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the manual and trying to linkage it,
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probably what needs to be done if there is a gap?
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So we need to build,
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say example,
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one or two people who build deep knowledge in
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banking.
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If somebody was in insurance with
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the risks high,
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then you are able to independently kind of,
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they will give you the performance,
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et cetera, for you to be able to.
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Or as you bring in an outside expert to be able to help you form
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that.
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I'm not at any point in time suggesting that and I think you
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also need to distinguish this reporting on the performance of an
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entity versus a separate performance audit that you can pick up
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for a scheme.
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After three years,
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you go into a performance audit,
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I mean, probably mixing up two issues and saying that it is every
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audit needs to have a performance audit.
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Committing on the performance of an entity is different from
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a performance audit of a scheme or a program of
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the government,
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which you need not do anywhere.
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I think if that clarity can come in,
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then we will all be on the same page.
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Yes,
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I mean, that's...
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I mean, exactly.
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So, this is where they have a,
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basically, a performance level in the region,
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and it was a,
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basically,
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but how they cover the
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performance part,
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the other aspect is basically they
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are dealing with the operations.
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So,
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this may have,
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you know, basically taken down at a greater level.
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So what we try to do is,
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you know, basically develop the procedures in order to cover that particular
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