Production camp 2- pre production session 1

Apr 05, 2026 19:17 · 59:01 · English · Whisper Turbo · 4 Speaker
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
this is starting with i'm recording by the way um okay so this is how it's gonna go
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we filled out the questionnaire so i could assess your level of experience and
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how you're coming into this and what your input where it comes from basically um the first part
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of the pre-production pre-production session will be simply you working on the track the way
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that you normally would so don't think about it as with those this is gonna work for our immersive
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goal or anything yet that's not what we're thinking about we're thinking about okay normally
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this is how you're gonna think about the arrangement to for that day so what we're thinking about right
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now is um we're working on putting the track together so then we can communicate it to the
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engineer so you can communicate with musicians the day of um and just so musically you have
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an idea of what you want and how you're going to explain that um and so the reason why we're
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putting sounds together right now is so then eventually we can also start listening to those
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sounds in the space um so i understand that the musicians will be improvising that day um and so
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since that is what's happening i guess we can also improvise here and that should work um okay so
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it's a good thing that we have just piano actually because that's kind of what they're going to be
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given and so today the exercise is going to be similar to what's going to happen the day of the
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rehearsal and hopefully after the rehearsal we'll have an even better idea what it's going to sound
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like for the recording um so as we work on this on the piece right now uh and on the arrangement and
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what you want and taking into account the musicians that will uh come in um i guess communication is
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something that i would be really good to keep in mind throughout this exercise so if you think
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about an idea or how you want it to sound or where you want something what you want to um an
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instrument to do for the listener those things that you might might be thinking about you might not
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be thinking about that at all but if you are um it'll be great if you could just literally voice
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that process and um i don't want this to be unnatural so if you don't think about these things
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naturally then don't yeah uh but um everything that comes what might be a little bit unnatural is
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voicing all those thoughts that might go through your head um and so that's that that's kind of maybe
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a new thing for this process that i need you to literally just say everything that you're thinking
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um and it doesn't mean that we have to stick to that or as it was i kind of literally need to get
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in your head when it comes to how you think about the production process um so but there are no
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limitations and there is no guideline at this point we just want to be thinking about the piece
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the way that you normally would okay okay and as i'm i'm not gonna interfere at all in that process
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uh not technically not musically um the only technical input that i will have is in form of
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guidelines and sharing knowledge of how the tech works but when it comes to the production of the
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piece i won't at all if you feel like i am at any point you let me know i shouldn't um so that is
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um the process that we're gonna follow right now so i'm gonna let you freely work on the sounds and
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the piece on how you're gonna have these conversations with the musicians how you want
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it to sound in the space things like um this is what i want the listener to experience or things like
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this is really what i what i want the guitars to do this is really what i want the percussions to do
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this is you know what i mean um so now you're free to do all of that on your own i will ask
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questions throughout uh perhaps asking for clarification or any details that you might be
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talking about if i don't understand then i might ask uh but other than that then that's what we're
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gonna do for let's say so right now it's 144 so like let's do that for one hour um and let's see
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where that takes us yeah sure sure that sounds good all right all right now we can finish making
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sure that all the sounds are here uh i think there's nothing else to do i think um go back
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with the guitar because there is no
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happening maybe further down yeah this is all of it like maybe we created it accidentally when i'm
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trying to like get the sounds up because i had like these from your file this i don't think
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there's anything here right it's just a it's just a pause yes i can just get rid of it um so now so
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we've identified that this is the bass and this is the piano so this is the guitar that's what i'm
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seeing where the melody starts okay if we could take a look at what it looks like
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yeah i think somehow the way that we imported the thing from you see like it's kind of reading it
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as a midi channel but not really reading the instrument yeah let's see if we can find
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and did you say acoustic guitar oh i think i just used like a nylon guitar yeah okay so let's put
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an acoustic for now just so i can hear what it's doing i'm going to connect the keyboard
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keyboard setup assistant just went in to assist me let's say let's just save this for now so we are
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sure that um just yeah so we can make sure yeah i'm just a little paranoid about saving no no no no
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every second now we go through like come on this come on this yeah okay cool so let's try to have
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a listen through first finger and see how it's sounding unfortunately i can't get the sustain on the
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piano for now but i mean that's this is just temporary we get it yeah yeah because it's it's doubling the
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bass line which we maybe don't need i could evolve into that so that's like the intro there everything
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else i think we just kind of took it all the way off but no keep going until maybe like later on because
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i had to then move some just now melodically we were following speech patterns of patois that used
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to be sung in trinidad so like caribbean
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most caribbean artists you have that that that that that like very regularly so it goes back to the
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head right so this repeat goes back to it goes back to the top here yeah so what i've done here
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is move this um just play this once to jump back into the a yeah the road map is going all helter
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skeleton we didn't bring it up from here it's like right so we're back at a but now a is going
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to jump to into this second bridge section we're supposed to get here from the end of a
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jump here we're gonna skip this and jump here that's what's happening yeah yeah so we're gonna
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skip this ending so it is actually it is yeah repeat from here it goes stop and then it does
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the whole of a yes until here until here so i'll rethink it what's really supposed to be happening
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the second time around is really horns join in okay but we're not going to have that this time okay so
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let's just make a note but that's we're not going to have horns for saturday so but we'll have for sunday
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no neither neither just next weekend so we're here so this is like one of the solo parts here yeah
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so we try to make that very inclusive with the bass and piano but very open and big and broad
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and so it's it's like the anger of it because it's lost tongues of patois it's a it's it's it's a
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language that we have no um my generation will never be able to speak it's erased based on cultural
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erasure it's a lost language literally so this this the music is supposed to be reflecting this
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speech pattern the sounds of this language just because it's a language that we had and it's like
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oh man you know patois when you hear it's like man it's so cool so it's kind of like
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you you're speaking of the beauty of it but also you're expressing the anger of not being able to
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connect with it so it's very topsy-turvy
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okay so that you need like an edge to the music that's reflecting this like the it needs to be
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the intensity exactly there's this amazing language there's lost language and you're
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like this eagerness to want to understand it but you don't understand okay exactly i get it so so that
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section if i did label it correctly it should be the b section or c section the c section so we could put
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that in in my notes i have it as the anger section or the you know because it gives so now it just kind
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of like we went back to the a section yeah yeah and that's pretty much the song uh improvs will work
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out and that and then i'll fix the ending so you you will get so on on the day the idea for next weekend
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we have the piano uh which here you've got like this is a reduction but really this melody is going
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to be played by a guitar by the steel pad because yeah oh the steel pad okay so it will be the piano
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bass um the steel and drums drums possibility of maybe i might bring like an extra drum because of
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the rhythm okay um so i i don't know if it starts over without you but anyways it's really just here
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because it's just supposed to go back to the intro and out and i'll i'll fix that problem so what's
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what what should happen in terms of instruments we could we could quiet it down i think we might
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start over again yeah it's oh yeah it just stopped right so just to be
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clear so the tumblek rhythm is what's going to be i'm going to bring my jimbe so we can add that
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in there that's going to play the actual rhythm that is from um guadeloupe okay so this that and
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and guadeloupe is a french um territory and that's where that rhythm comes so a lot of people from
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the french islands went to the um went to places like trinidad and stuff like that and i'm from
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trinidad so many places in trinidad used to speak this french patois or yeah yeah french patois french
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creole as they would say um and many places would have that a lot of calypso back in the day was sung
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in patois so even though you had an english um colonizer we okay you had the spanish who was
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ruled by spanish for 300 years then you had french and so on but then the english came on the spanish
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seeded trinidad to them but they still allowed people from the french caribbean islands to come
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in due to catholicism to be part of the island so you had english rulers and french creole speaking
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and because they would sing and do stuff that would be in resistance to the english rules
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they found a way they well they devised a way to then erase the language
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right and so so it became that way and then later on it became a way where your grandparents
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would use it as a way to hide what they want to say in front of their kids so this is where we talk
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about lost tongues of patois because musically we would play like that we don't speak like that
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because of our adaptation to english right so you would hear that kind of stuff so the what i what i
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wanted to take from that apart from its history what was speech patterns and how that that would like
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highlight how certain words would be said in patois or even how we would call lavwe and so it's so you
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have that that kind of stuff so then the rhythm which is a tumblek which is one of the seven
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goka rhythms goka means big drum um that's what i'm going to use the jimbi okay so that's where
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your down is so what i'm doing is then using that underneath the drum set itself so we were literally
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taking that entire rhythm and putting it on the drum set but making sure that it's supported
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by the drum itself you want to create like layers basically to reinforce the rhythm yeah and you
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want to do these like record it simultaneously or overdub that i think if we're doing like a click
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track it might be okay to do that the the jimbi drum boom and then let everybody else play live
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i think that works well because if we're doing a click track it's easy yeah you hear that rhythm in
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your head the drum is able to do that and everybody else goes from there okay yeah yeah cool and okay
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so this is it we have the sections you said that you're going to still do a few changes on these
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yeah yeah yeah i'll give you a final score before yeah so we can have it beforehand it can
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as works as a reduction like this is always fine we don't need necessarily all the parts yeah if you
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want to have the breakdown we can work with the breakdown if you don't want to do that we can just
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work with the the reduction just to follow the main text i'll just maybe just to make sure that i
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give you a proper a proper roadmap you know because yeah with the intro and what have you
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because when we get out of the c section here this is the big one one improvisation section so
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there'll be improv and then we get back out of there which is to go back to be um go back to
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this intro here we're going to kind of leave it open for a little improv and then we do to the
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intro so i'm going to fix that um sign going into the end okay yeah cool yeah so um because there is a
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proper ending for that so we should have that sorted and i think we should be we should be good
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yeah it's amazing idea just to hear it in thing now it's just like okay yeah yeah and it's very
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interesting as well they because at the end of the day every language is kind of musical there is like
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even if you don't speak a language you can hear someone speaking italian or portuguese or spanish or
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russian and you can say oh this is this language or that yes
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so it's such an interesting idea to reflect that with music with a musical pattern you don't need
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the words the words are just like oh the meaning attached to it but the actual sound of the language
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is exactly and from this midi what we're hearing i mean you would actually hear us round off um
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the the or how we articulate some of the the um the notes and stuff like that maybe a bit more
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rounded a bit warmer um especially with the steel pan be it that it's a very percussive tone we just
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want to make um how we play it and how that's recorded is also a whole other thing by itself so
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yeah cool and in terms of like do you do you consider any other overdubs any more stuff that
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you want to add to it or i think maybe anything overdub might be improv if if need be if we get
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it in one take that'd be amazing you know yeah well it's not impossible you know but i think if there
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is any um for what we have i think that should be okay if there if there is an inclusion of horns or
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whatever the case is be it if it is that might be something to do overdub but you consider an
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inclusion of horns on the day or no i think later later on maybe at another time but so for this
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project let's not even okay worry about that at this point okay maybe like that so sorry if i even
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mentioned that well we could i don't know if we are open to it or if it's a possibility because we
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could potentially also just if we wanted to have an idea about horns or something just play it on like
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with samples and then you can later replace it is it a thing that we can do no not at all i want
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to record everything yeah leave it as a quartet chart i think before yeah yeah yeah i guess that
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that works that sounds like it we have a plan because i think with that kind of music as well
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it is there's a lot of the feel and improvisation yeah this is yeah it's not like you can't overly
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plan because it will be also the dynamics of the musicians of the musicians and how they're
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interacting with exactly each other and how they're feeding the music at the time correct
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question sorry um just to clarify so um can you just tell me the reason why
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for this specific session we don't have this element so is it because you didn't have the
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musicians available yeah we don't have the musicians available to add like the horns and stuff like
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that um so if you had the musicians what would you have had i would um i would write for um trumpet
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and saxophone tenor yeah trumpet and tenor saxophone i might actually even add um unnecessary alto
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with a trombone just to get a three part or three to four part harmony just to put it that way you
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know because you could substitute and put it from there however for this i think a quartet version
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of it is going to be great it's going to be fine yeah i could have found the musicians if you had told
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me it's it's too much going on too much yeah yeah i don't know but i think it's for these group of
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musicians also i'm not sure if you're familiar on piano we're going to have sam leak okay um he's really
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really good um easy kill can't remember his last name they call him zeke on the upright bass um so
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even what you heard on the upright bass it's this is just a pilot so he's you know i mean so he's
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going to do his thing yeah and the drummer's name is nate rickets so he's a you know really good
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musicians from in the london scene as well so so i i mean i'm what is going to be very interesting
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in this is that they've never played together as an ensemble so um how they relate to this piece
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um sam is british zeke is british but maybe have some other components somewhere else
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uh nate is i believe jamaican but born britain so we're looking at that and how they interact with
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this piece as well that's yeah and it can be interesting because it's like different cultures
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different people different backgrounds exactly but obviously we have the day of the rehearsal so
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that's going to be a good like a good express experience to understand what direction we can
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take that into if there's something at the time that's not working what we can change exactly how
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i can communicate that with everyone
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but yeah i guess are you so when you finish this the score when you do the changes are you gonna
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send that over to them as well or is it yeah yeah yeah okay so they're gonna have some time to shut
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on this beforehand so it's not gonna be like the first time you're seeing the pieces of the channel
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
okay sorry i never like doing that to be fair i never like doing that because
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
jazz is such a fluid thing that yes some you would have that paper in front of you and you
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it's like a distraction you should you know your hands should know where you want to go
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
you guys need to shed they need to see well um they're playing this diminished seventh over with
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an added major seven how do you voice that so we want to make sure we pull it give the pianist a
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chance to play around with whatever voicing he may want to use bass is the same thing the drummer
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especially for the rhythm because it's very different yeah so i give them a chance to like
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work on the music and then we see how it goes when we come together on saturday yeah so yeah
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
no it's good if they have an idea of what the piece is then they can come up with their own ideas as
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
well and then once we get all together we can talk about it yeah yeah and myself and them like
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especially because i've worked with sam before um we're always open in terms of um he might have an
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idea like hey could we because this is where we play along with dynamics and this is where but
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
basically what we have is the idea yeah and that's it um how we articulate it is just going to be the
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other thing and how we communicate with each other within the session um i think it's that would be you
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know we can feel it of it if we can see each other you know you know and um communicate because
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cues and what have you and if he's done soloing or he gives that intention of let's raise the ante a
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
little bit you know yeah because i think on the day is is very important that like the band is all
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together all in the same environment and we should potentially try and like a thing to uh maybe um
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
flag with the engineer to make sure that everyone can see each other and the way that they are
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positioned in the room so that's like however they choose to mic it and display it put all the
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instruments in the space it would be important that the musicians can interact with each other
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
in terms of like this type of music and what how this piece is envisioned it should be like
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
very much about the human connection i think and about how yeah yeah it's very about how they are
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gonna interact with each other because it's not like a pop piece that everything is already and it's
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
like you play this you play this we can just you know play all separately it's not like that it's
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going to be about like the kind of like question and answer that like you throw something there
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and someone throws something back at you because it's it's all the elements of what this idea of
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cruelizations mixture and communication and call and response and so we're literally going to be
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watching something just become extremely fluid and alive in in in the space um which not only makes
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the make it something for the musicians but for everybody in the room yeah and i guess like we
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need to make be sure that we are like the main thing is this pattern that emulates the the voice
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the the speech so that needs to be like the central thing and everything needs to come around it give it
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space to breathe and at the same time just like be playful kind of around this pattern yeah yeah yeah and
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
that's going to be played so the main melody is going to be played on the steel pan yeah so once we
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
get that i'm i am going to bring two different two steel pan instruments they're a bit different
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
one has a higher octave from middle c up and yeah so like from c4 to to c6 c4 to 6 okay and then the
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
others from a3 yeah from a3 to yeah to to e6 as well okay
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
so that gives us we can that maybe can do overdubs with the melody so just thinking about it now yeah
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
yeah it gives you some overdub with the melody so it gives us some body yeah yeah you know that could
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be interesting yeah so color wise um i'm gonna have the there's a tuner here who the guy who
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made it um have him tune it just to make sure that we everything is all set and um i think we should
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
be all right pianos too i know it should be tuned i'm gonna double check on tuesday it's drum kits as a drama
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
bring in their
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bring in their
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bring in their
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
that's a question i wanted to think because he's coming he's taking me from waterloo is there drums
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
here so yeah so we need to book drums yes please um i'll ask him about symbols i would work with
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
my symbols just in case you're gonna bring your symbol yeah i'll ask him normally i'll ask him
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
to bring his sometimes drummers like to bring snares yeah there's snare and the cymbals sometimes
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
they're very attached to it yeah so yeah maybe if they want to know maybe they're gonna want to
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
know what drum kit is it so if you have access to the name or something because i know some drummers
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are very particular they're like oh what drums do you have how do they sound so that could be a good
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
shot i'll talk yeah i'll send a message about the drums i'll give you some confirmation with regards
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
to that um basically i know he might walk with his own thing um oh yeah ah um i can send you
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
my tech stuff and whatever you have you have you know or whatever's that you can match to it it's
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
fine okay you know i mean so at least we would you know we would have what what whatever thing with
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
with that um i know he's like a mac bass and i'm not sure what amp head he wants for that but i will
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
let me send that to you now so at least you would have that like my text yeah because if we need to
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
book anything we need to know yeah and it's important that like if we have a specific sound
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in mind it's important that we choose that beforehand if we want like in certain instruments
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
will sound different so but other than that i think it's it's pretty much as acoustic as it could
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be and um saturday i think well i think we if we can get in here we we plan to be here because
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
you said it opens at nine or ten ten but the engineer won't be here until a bit later because
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
he's flying from belgium on saturday on saturday bass player has a gig in canada water at three so
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
he has to leave by like one one thirty but it's a rehearsal but then on sunday he's here he has a gig up
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here which is great yeah and i mean we are recording the rehearsal as well so we can always
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like if we have a few takes we can always just sit and listen back to it and see if there's anything
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that we want to like plan in advance for the next day that we think like oh maybe we can change this
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
correct yeah so we can always go through the recording and lovely yeah so yeah i told everybody
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
i told them let's try to get here by 10 all right 10 um 10 11 12 war and i think that's good set up
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
time and whatever um to saturday you guys just got to get back wait no i wouldn't say 10 because 10
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
is when we all get here okay may 11 yeah because we need to set up microphones get all that stuff so
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
you wouldn't if you want to be here and like play together like if you but we wouldn't be able to
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
start yeah that's fine but if you want to come and like play together as we set up oh yeah yeah yeah
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
as long as it doesn't um interfere with yeah no just letting you know if the engineer is fine for me
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
but if you want to be here at 10 that's fine i'll leave it at 10 so because you know
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
somebody might be like you know um yeah because i know like the the bass player he checked times
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
just to get back and the trains leave like every hour or something like that so yeah so he needs to
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be kind of the water by three okay to set up by three so i told him we should be so he needs to
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like 1 15 or something just to give him assurance you know i mean but sunday's yeah yeah but if he
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
needs to be by that time there's nothing we can do but yeah you know i'm probably should be all right
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
but we get an idea and sample of what it is we're doing i'm excited i'm excited i hope you guys are
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
yeah yeah i think that's gonna be really cool and i i love the idea of like when you said it it was like
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
this is so cool the idea of emulating a pattern of like speaking with just a sound you know because
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
it's it's just great it's really cool yeah i mean the melody is very simple it's not too much in a way
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
um it repeats um and because of maybe some of the other parts that maybe if i use using the two
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
instruments i could maybe put what i would have put for the horns as that overdub yeah
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
to give it you know because once it starts doing that you you know when you're repeating a melody
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
you want to what's new about yeah you know i mean so and we get some inflections from the piano yeah
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
maybe we could on that when we said when you said like oh on the second part when it repeats from
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the top again that you would add the horns maybe we could add an over
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but
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you
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you
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S… Speaker 3 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
dub with the steel yeah on that section exactly you the first time around you just play with one
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of the the steels and then the second time around we can add something yeah yeah yeah and if you
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have any other bits of percussion or stuff that you want to try on the day we don't it doesn't
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need to be set in stone but if you have anything else that you want to bring to try yeah yeah i
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
have a bag of i have a bag of toys yeah you know i mean you know because this is the first time this
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is coming out and there are certain rhythms that are very specific so i might use a clave
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because of um because of its nature and which which even goes from um
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from cuba puerto rico haiti and so on they play on a log and there's a rhythm that that that they use
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
it's almost as like a clave right but it's it's i have some toys and maybe some shakers or whatever
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
so those are like overdub stuff like you can think about if need be you know because it also oh that's
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S… Speaker 3 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
also an important question how because obviously you conceive this it's like this is the rhythm this
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is about this specific pattern and this specific rhythm from this place but how much do we want to
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stick to like it needs to be super authentic or it is based on that but we can innovate and add some
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
other things that um i want it to be as authentic as possible but at the same time if i hear something
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
let's put that in just based on my experience being in these spaces and also based on some of my
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interviews um speaking with um um some of the musicians from actually guadeloupe um what they
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
what they look at especially they look at authenticity yeah and we're looking at if i tell you if i play this
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
pattern would you guess where it's from how does this relate to that country and that's the problem we
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
have when people say oh this is caribbean jazz and they all this is from haiti and they play something
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
completely different yeah right so um this research is to highlight these nuances within it patterns and
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
so on that then gives you like okay yeah this is caribbean jazz rather than everybody homogenizes
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
this whole thing of caribbean jazz is one thing yeah you know so yeah yeah but we'll bring it and let's
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
see what happens and yeah so would you say that the main purpose of the piece is to highlight those
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
because we're showcasing um what you would do with these um caribbean jazz creating a piece out of
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
the um rhythms and stuff like that from various um this is what you could do utilizing some of these
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rhythms and so on from these countries that is there which still gives you that which gives you
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
that flavor cool and so those rhythms should be identifiable people should exactly so if i say the
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
tumblek because why when i was interviewing um um saxophone player jacques swatzbart from guadeloupe
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
and i'm like yeah i'm writing this piece and i'm using the tumblek rhythm he smiled it's like ah you know and so
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
that drove our our our our conversation in a whole other direction and that's when he's like there's
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
seven different uh guoca rhythms and so on so there's been a lot of work in that sense um even
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where roy hargrove actually went and recorded an album um grand terrier he recorded that album
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S… Speaker 3 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
in guadeloupe because of jacques swatzbart and stuff like that so cool so we want to bring this
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very identifiable cultural aspect of the place and how it sounds like
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S… Speaker 3 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
okay cool killer i think that's about it do you have any reference things for us to listen in general
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
hmm i think the only reference i had with regards to music i sent yeah i can play them for you okay
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
sorry you guys sit here i'll just yeah just for a second so i can get these playing for you
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
do you think those will be on opera music yeah probably yeah yeah
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S… Speaker 4 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
oh yeah for sure
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
you
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There you go.
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
This is your turn.
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Find the other one.
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This soul window.
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Second round.
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
When you're done listening to that one, it's this.
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
uh similarly to this track that we've just listened to is the idea that like we start with
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something a bit softer like the drums are really soft and everything was kind of like chilled and
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then it increases in intensity yeah i think that's what happens yeah because and the other thing is
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
i think definitely for the second pass of this section i think we should definitely add something
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
to like indicate this yeah i might i might do that or i might just take it out entirely um just not
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
repeat it yeah yeah i might just take it but it definitely it is um it is written for other parts
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to come in um but taken into consideration for the quartet um you know it's either i do something
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else or just have it flow a little bit better yeah because i think if we do have this repeat
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and we repeat this whole section to increase the intensity of course you can increase the intensity
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of the playing but it would be an an added element of interest to bring in an overdub of course yeah
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so i think definitely it would be a good idea to explore this like adding a second steel or maybe
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a bit more percussions and like other elements on this section as well that would um bring this
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increased intensity because there's only so much intensity that you can add to the same instruments
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
no yeah yeah i mean and we you know we have to keep in mind that you know guys are gonna
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either noodle more or play more add a bit more inflection based on um the nature of playing within it
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
so when it repeats i think even we might get a bit more intense um in in how we approach it um
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
but again no it's it's still it's it's definitely something that is designed for that um so yeah
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
keeping that in mind that would be something to keep in mind definitely yeah we can always like on the
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
rehearsal as well we can always hear it and see how it's sounding like exactly we can keep the section
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
or maybe we can yeah i mean i do a lot i do my homework with regards to that um because it's very
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it's very important that i make sure that what i'm what i want to say there um um um because utilizing
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what needed needs to happen there if when i'm supposed to repeat um is the horns needed to answer
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
so when we say so those those are very not generic but those are somewhat typical phrases that you can
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
identify from like this because now me being from trinidad now you're having that so definitely to add
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that like you know you know again if if we repeat it it gives it that that extra little kind of thing
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and maybe i'll get the drummer to get off the hi-hat and go on to the cymbal yeah a little bit um on the
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ride cymbal a bit so see what he does there yeah um you know or maybe have the jimbe or something like
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that um give me some more you know i mean just to put some inflections just you know something to
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
because you can always maybe something to have in mind as well like if you because if you think of the
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future of this piece that you want to have horns at a later date not for this section this session
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
that we're gonna do we can always have the repeat and for now you add like a second layer of steels or
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something if we add it as an overdub you can always just yeah yeah i could always do that yeah
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
i could always do that then you already have like the the structure of like this is the structure of
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
the thing exactly you know how it sounds you just have to replace that or maybe just let the bass do
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
something because of like in martinican music it's like they always try to get the bass to start the
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conversation and i think it might be a nice feature for him because of the type of player that i know he
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is it might be an amazing feature that he starts doing something there and then maybe break away
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
from what's normally typical yeah using this bass solo into maybe the second ending into the that
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
aggressive on um second section c so yeah yeah
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
That's a good way to think about it.
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
Section C, where we are going to have some improv.
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
The solos, yeah.
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
The improv is happening in C.
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
And that's big.
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
You know, so I'll put a better signpost on whatever the case is.
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
But yeah.
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
Yeah.
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
Yeah.
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
Cool.
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
Let's hear the second reference.
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
This is my second record.
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
This is my daughter's 14.
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S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
So this was recorded right before she was born.
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S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
So in terms of the texture of the instrumentation,
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we want to be close to this, like the timbre and the texture.
51:39
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
Okay.
51:40
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
Cool.
51:41
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
Cool.
51:42
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
I think, you know, record.
51:43
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
I mean, it's just an idea for what it is we do and how I play in that sense.
51:50
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
But what I've always tried to maintain is having acoustic instruments with the pan,
51:58
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
especially with the bass and the pan.
52:03
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
I think it gives it a really, really good sound.
52:07
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
I mean, yeah, we do electronic stuff, which is also dope at the same time.
52:16
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
So this session is not that one.
52:18
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
Hopefully maybe something in the future we'll see how that goes.
52:22
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
That'd be great.
52:23
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
But yeah, just to keep that sound, especially for stuff like this and this.
52:31
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
I mean, it's still a growing piece.
52:37
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
Actually, we're going to be performing this with the Royal Academy Jazz Ensemble.
52:45
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
Oh, wow.
52:45
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
Yeah.
52:46
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
So like, that's why I'm like, there's more to it.
52:49
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
So this and some others, February 4th, I'll send you the invites.
52:53
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
Amazing.
52:54
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
So we're doing a project with that, Steel Pan, Full Steel Ensemble, Jazz Ensemble, and hopefully some strings.
53:05
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
One to highlight of my writing at the same time and then bring these stories to life, you know.
53:13
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
But, you know, to record this, it gives me a chance to hear.
53:19
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
Yeah, you know what I mean, and see what goes on.
53:22
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
But yeah, that's about it.
53:27
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
Yeah, I think that sounds great.
53:30
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
At this point, is there anything else that you want to hear in the piece?
53:35
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
In the piece itself.
53:36
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
As in, like, how you have it, how you're hearing, yeah, how you're listening to it in a lot of time.
53:40
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
Um, I don't, because I think that for, for this, for what we have in mind, is like, the main thing is the, is the pattern.
53:51
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
But the actual piece itself will depend on what the musicians are going to do on the day.
53:55
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
Like, for instance, if the piano playing won't necessarily be what, here is just like a guide, isn't it?
54:02
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
Like, what you have here is kind of just keeping the, the bass and the rhythm and, and the harmony itself, but they will be playing other things.
54:13
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
Yeah, yeah, they'll be like improvising.
54:14
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
They'll be comping and stuff like that.
54:16
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
Yeah, yeah, choosing their own voicings, adding little, like, passing notes here and there.
54:22
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
So, I guess this is the main idea, but what, the focus of what the piece is, is this pattern, is this rhythm that's identifiable on this, um, this kind of, like, little, the, the sound of the language itself, as you said.
54:41
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
So, because it's like, sorry to cut you, it's, it's, it gives off, it gives a feel of a ballad, but the rhythm is going to be a bit.
54:52
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
The rhythm is a bit.
54:57
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
So, so the fact that it gives this.
55:00
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
feel of a ballad it gives it a bit a bit of melancholy that's what we're like looking here
55:05
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
right now yeah yeah so that's really what's going to be the main thing so it's kind of like like
55:15
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
it's tree against fog and i kind of i'm not really tree against four but it has that kind of
55:21
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
up boom boom but but you know um against this one yeah you know so so you get this kind of
55:29
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
melancholic thing but you have this undertone of this rhythm that is going to pick up and then
55:34
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
takes over in the c section c section this big so we're really going to be like really big into it
55:47
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
and then it brings it back down you know that kind of thing so you still so it's kind of so the
55:53
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
the sorry i'm maybe over explaining but the base the the feel of the song gives you this
56:01
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
very nice and but that rhythm it's just kind of nostalgia of the storytelling of like this is
56:08
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
this lost language from these people and that's how it sounded and then as you said it gets into
56:14
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
this intense bit of like anger and then it goes down again yeah and then it sails away
56:22
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
is that something that you're able to play on the keyboard me no i ain't no pianist i wish i could
56:30
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
um like what the rhythm yeah oh yeah if we could um okay um do we need to break for lunch now and
56:37
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
then do that or do you want to do it now um i'm okay with whatever how are you feeling i'm okay i
56:44
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
might need to quickly go to the toilet but other than that i can wait a bit because we do need to
56:49
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
get all those parts going so then we can listen to it in the space yeah so if we could just put the
56:54
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
rhythm in that's fine okay yeah yeah because we can just um load some kind of percussion that is
57:00
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
similar to this is a drum kit or yeah yeah we did download a drum kit
57:22
S… Speaker 2 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
yes okay and that's maybe if you can add a um a big drum
57:30
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
or yeah we might need to download a big one but no no never mind no we can
57:35
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
it might be um on the bbc orchestra did they have a taiko or something that's like a big
57:41
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
but i don't think i have this oh yeah because you deleted it yeah um but yeah just search for a
57:49
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
a taiko or yeah it's the big big sorry i'm just trying to come up with a
57:57
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
but on a different track right it is on a different track already yeah i'm just trying to look for
58:03
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
where it would be because it's not on drum kit percussion we don't want all of that though we
58:16
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
only wanted one yeah we've only selected this first yeah it's doing that it's not the leads
58:22
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
downloading everything though because you see these don't know uh maybe an orchestra they have
58:26
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
something okay so percussion oh but you don't have it either yeah download it download the well just
58:32
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
company or yeah the symphony would have worked okay so we might need to wait until everything is
58:45
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
downloaded so why don't we take a break now go eat and then let it download sure cool okay save save save
58:56
S… Speaker 1 (Production camp 2- pre production session 1)
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