Meeting with Mbali HR

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I've had instances where there were certain things
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that I would have hoped I could discuss with
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you as my HR manager.
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But as you see,
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you were a bit tied up.
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I'm not
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sure if maybe
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Ryan has brought you up to speed but I think so.
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You know,
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there have been a case whereby I've
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requested resources.
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and assistance from both my managers.
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But it was denied
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resources that would
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have assisted me,
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especially in my probationary period.
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I had a meeting yesterday with Luther and Ryan,
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confronting them about this.
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Fonseil instructed me to conduct training
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for the welders in order for them to
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To improve I explained to Luther that I do not have personal protective
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equipment He said he
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would speak to Ryan and get feedback from right and
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The following
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day I Can
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hear you
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That is what I don't understand.
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Ryan did brief me.
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I don't understand why it wasn't issued in the first place.
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It was supposed to be issued when you started.
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Whether you're on probation or whether you're on a fixed term contract,
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it was supposed to be issued on the day you started.
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So why was it not issued?
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I did not get an answer
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to that question yesterday from Ryan.
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Ryan said he...
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He was waiting for Luther.
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And then I...
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For me to begin the training,
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I requested it.
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And Luther said he would get back to me.
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He went and spoke to Ryan in his office.
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And then a few minutes later,
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he told me that PPE had arrived.
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So I went down to Esmeralda's quarters,
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I mean in the reception,
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and found a box full of overalls
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and reflective vests.
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I inquired with Esmerelda when this box had arrived.
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She said I mustn't include her in my disputes
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with Luther.
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When
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I looked at the package itself,
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the delivery note and all of that,
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I saw that it was delivered early July.
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I asked them why wasn't I issued
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this PPE so that I could be able to work.
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Luther said because I wasn't permanent.
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So I asked him why are you issuing it now because I'm still not
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permanent.
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And so he didn't give me an answer to that.
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There
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are other resources.
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Scanner training.
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I remember with our review,
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Luther had concerns regarding the use of the scanner.
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When I started Trendstar,
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I did not receive that scanner training.
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I did not know how to use that scanner training.
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I did not have a profile within the
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system.
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It's
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things that I must pressure them in
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order for them to see the need to do that.
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I asked Ryan,
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I said,
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why didn't you provide scanner training yesterday?
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Because, I mean scanner training when I started,
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because all the other supervisors had been granted scanner training,
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Excel training,
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and other forms of training when
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they started their roles
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or duties and responsibilities.
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And he said to Luther,
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okay,
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let's forget what has happened in the past.
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Let's move forward.
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Luther, can you organize scanner training for Lensu?
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That was a very easy instruction to give.
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Now,
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which begs the question,
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why didn't he provide that instruction earlier on for me to
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be able to fully understand the
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use of the Android scanner and the PM450 scanner?
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Most of the mistakes that have come
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about with the use of the scanner has been mistakes.
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because of the lack of understanding.
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Ryan
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and Luther,
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the way that they have denied
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training,
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it leads me to a conclusion
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that this position is being saved for someone else.
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When I started in
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this position, there was no system.
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At all.
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No storage area.
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No count of parts and resources within the welding
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department.
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Untrained welders.
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Everything was just in shambles.
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So when I started and was trying to get things together,
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fortunately I was doing that during my probationary period.
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And,
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you know,
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being assessed to
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perform.
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in a situation where there aren't any resources and
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you have managers that are not fully providing resources
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and denying resources like PPE and
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the necessary training,
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it's very,
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very hard for me to become successful in this role.
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Even if this probation period can be extended multiple
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times, I mean,
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I would never be successful if they do not want me to be successful.
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And the way that they've acted,
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they have...
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They've proven that they
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do not wish for that success
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to come to pass.
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So
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his actions,
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Luther's actions clearly displayed.
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that he had predetermined the fact that he doesn't want me to be successful
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in this role.
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Because I asked him yesterday,
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Luther, is there a reason for you to do these things?
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He did not have a reason.
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I asked Luther and Luther said,
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and I asked Ryan,
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Ryan said he didn't want to answer that.
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He would rather let Luther provide all the answers.
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So, you know,
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that is where I'm at right now.
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It's
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been issues that I've
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wanted to actually discuss them
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with you.
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You know,
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there are so many.
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I just noted
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them down,
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but I would like
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to initiate a grievance process against both of
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my managers.
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And with this...
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I'd like to I'm going to I'm
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going to appeal for
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in the Commission
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of at
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CCMA so I
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really like this matter to be to be to be to
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be resolved
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within those grounds.
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You see,
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because...
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You know what,
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Lenzu?
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I would like us to resolve this internally.
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You know why?
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Simply because,
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you know,
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Fanzel and I had a discussion after the
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sessions that we had with the welders.
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Remember those sessions?
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I do.
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And we do agree that you have not been
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receiving support.
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Hence,
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that's why myself and Fanzel support you.
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So
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what I'm suggesting,
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let's have a session.
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I'll book a session for you,
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myself and Fanzel.
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Do
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it that way first.
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But I hear you.
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I understand what you're saying,
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prayer one.
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But I wouldn't advise you
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to go the grievance process or externally
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to CCMA.
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Let's have a session with Fanzel
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and then we'll have a way forward.
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Just
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trust me on this one.
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After our review...
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All of those points that
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Luther brought up,
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it's
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things that he never discussed with me to say,
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you know what,
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this is what I'm picking up and you
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need to improve here.
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I was just surprised to
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hear those points in the review.
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It sounded like he's been collecting ammunition for
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that review.
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So those are
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actions of someone who does not wish to see me succeed
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in this position.
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To be frank and honest,
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I do not trust Ryan
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and Luther.
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Most of their actions...
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has been delayed tactics.
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Resources that I've requested for them to provide,
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it's just been a later,
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later, later response.
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And that has led me to fall
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behind in my targets.
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Luther,
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last week,
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or right after Fonsea was here,
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he instructed me to
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to start preparing a certain section of the depot
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to store parts.
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And Luther instructed me to
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assign two welders to prepare bins
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as storage compartments.
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We do not have the resources to do that.
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I informed him,
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I said, Luther, we do not have the resources to do that.
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We need an extension cord,
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we needed a big grinder.
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He said he would go and buy that at CashBuild.
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Tomorrow.
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And the rest of that week,
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he did not come back to me regarding that.
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He just sent me emails and WhatsApps telling
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me that, are you aware that you are falling behind?
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And so his communication
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is created as evidence
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to be used later.
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So that is why I'm saying it's very hard for me to trust them.
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And our initial
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review,
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to me,
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it seemed as if that review was predetermined.
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The outcome was predetermined because whatever I had to say
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already,
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the result was predetermined prior
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to even hearing what I had to say.
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But remember,
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we review.
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It was my decision to say,
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let's have the review and extend the contract because
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I need to understand what the issues are.
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And we need to give Lentu a reasonable
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time to improve.
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But we also need to,
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if there's an expectation that is not fulfilling,
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it needs to be communicated to him.
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That's the reason why we extended your probation
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period.
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So let me
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set up a session for next week for the three
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of us.
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Fanzel,
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you and myself.
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And please be
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open.
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Fanzel is a very fair person.
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We are mass boots.
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And can you hear me?
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I can.
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Yeah.
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Even I sent him e -recording of your
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performance review.
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I sent him the recording because I said to him,
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I don't agree with the fact that
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Linsu is not performing.
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These are the issues that he raised.
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Please listen to the recording,
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you know.
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And he was shocked.
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So that's why I'm saying let's have a session next week,
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let's have a meeting next week and make sure you
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note everything down on all
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the challenges that you've experienced,
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everything that is delaying,
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the resources that were not given to you,
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just everything.
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We have an ube open,
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ule session.
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S… Speaker 1 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
Is it anything
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that Fancel doesn't know already?
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He doesn't.
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Franzel only knows about the review
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session only because I sent him the recording.
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But a lot of the things
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he does not know,
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including myself,
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that are happening like PPE.
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S… Speaker 3 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
Tell
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me, is it possible for me to do both?
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S… Speaker 2 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
What do you mean?
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Have the review session.
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But I feel that it's...
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I would like to go the grievance process.
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S… Speaker 3 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
No,
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let's have this session.
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S… Speaker 2 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
It's a meeting so that Fanzel and myself
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can understand exactly what is going on that side.
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Let's start with that.
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And then after the meeting,
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then we can take it from there.
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S… Speaker 1 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
My
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contracts will be
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coming to an end.
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S… Speaker 4 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
Oh,
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S… Speaker 4 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
when?
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In September.
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S… Speaker 3 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
Let
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me check.
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S… Speaker 3 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
Let
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me quickly check.
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Okay,
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the
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extension is up until the third.
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That is why...
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S… Speaker 1 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
Okay.
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There are
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other responsibilities also to train the
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welders.
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while meeting targets.
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You know,
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S… Speaker 1 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
all of that.
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S… Speaker 1 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
I asked Lou,
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I said, how am I going to manage
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both at the same time if I'm going to thoroughly train these guys?
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Ryan said,
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these guys already went for a course.
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I said,
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when they went for a course and they were declared competent,
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S… Speaker 1 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
it's the same guys that when they went for an assessment,
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that officer explained that no one between them could
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weld.
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S… Speaker 3 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
Now,
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those are the same guys that I need to train.
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So I needed to start with theory.
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That also has its own challenges
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because most of these guys do not understand English.
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S… Speaker 1 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
Some of the terms and terminology that is used within welding
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is very hard for them to comprehend.
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But if Fanzel returns
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for the review session to try and understand if...
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We will have this on Monday,
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on the first.
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S… Speaker 2 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
I'll book it on Fanzel's calendar.
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S… Speaker 2 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
We could have a meeting on Teams.
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S… Speaker 2 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
I'll just have to ask and check when it's available.
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S… Speaker 2 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
It's either on Monday or Tuesday,
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latest Tuesday.
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And you can also mention the challenges of training the
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guys.
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So can we do that?
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And then
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after our meeting,
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if you want to go the grievance
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route,
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then you can do that.
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S… Speaker 3 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
Can we
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agree on that?
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S… Speaker 1 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
Unfortunately,
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S… Speaker 1 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
but I cannot...
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I cannot agree fully.
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S… Speaker 2 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
So if
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you choose not to use my advice,
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S… Speaker 2 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
then unfortunately I cannot support you in whatever you do.
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S… Speaker 3 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
I'm
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trying to assist you here.
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S… Speaker 2 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
So if you want to make your own decision and go the grievance
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route, I'm not going to support you.
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S… Speaker 1 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
But by the idea...
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Hence I'm saying,
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let's give it up until Tuesday.
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Let's have this meeting with Fanzel.
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And then after the meeting,
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then if you want to go to the Brevin's Woods,
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you can do that.
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S… Speaker 3 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
But it's up to you.
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Yeah,
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S… Speaker 1 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
yeah.
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S… Speaker 3 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
Yeah.
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S… Speaker 2 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
So allow me to assist you.
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S… Speaker 2 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
I hear you.
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As I'm saying,
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Fanzel and myself support you.
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So just give
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us time.
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So that you can tell us what the issues are or challenges,
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and then we can take it from there.
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That's all I'm saying.
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I'll
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set up a team's meeting for Monday.
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S… Speaker 3 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
Okay,
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S… Speaker 1 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
I understand.
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S… Speaker 1 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
Yeah,
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S… Speaker 2 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
let's do that.
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And then Tuesday or Wednesday,
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if you want to go the Griffins route,
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it's fine.
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S… Speaker 3 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
You
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S… Speaker 1 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
know...
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S… Speaker 2 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
What do you want to do?
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S… Speaker 2 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
It's up to you.
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S… Speaker 1 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
You know,
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S… Speaker 1 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
the session with Fonseo,
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I do
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not understand how it's going to address what
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is.
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S… Speaker 4 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
I know what I'm doing.
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S… Speaker 1 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
But I don't.
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S… Speaker 1 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
But remember,
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S… Speaker 2 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
just listen to me.
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S… Speaker 4 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
We're not in PE.
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So that's the reason why we want to understand what exactly is
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going on that side.
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S… Speaker 3 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
We
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do not know what is going on that side.
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S… Speaker 2 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
So that is one meeting on Monday.
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S… Speaker 2 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
I'll set that up on Monday.
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S… Speaker 3 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 1 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
It's fine.
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S… Speaker 2 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
Okay. And let you know,
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I've got a meeting with him now at half past.
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S… Speaker 2 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
So I'll check on his availability and then I'll set
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it up on Teams.
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S… Speaker 2 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
We'll exclude Ryan and Luther.
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S… Speaker 3 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 1 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 1 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
All right.
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S… Speaker 5 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
All right.
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S… Speaker 1 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 4 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
We'll talk.
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S… Speaker 1 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 1 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
Thank you.
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S… Speaker 5 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
All right.
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S… Speaker 1 (Meeting with Mbali HR)
Bye.

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