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Let's begin this.

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So I'm recording.

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So we're going to do it in Spanish and we're going to do it.

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S… Speaker 3 (romain goupil)

Is it good for you?

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S… Speaker 1 (romain goupil)

Yes.

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S… Speaker 1 (romain goupil)

Just a comment.

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Just,

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you do it very well so that people can translate it,

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because you're doing short phrases.

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Ah,

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yes. If we can continue like that,

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it's even easier and more precise.

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S… Speaker 2 (romain goupil)

Yes.

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S… Speaker 3 (romain goupil)

Thank you very much.

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I'll try to make the short questions.

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It's simple.

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You were here for

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the projection of death at 30 years.

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S… Speaker 3 (romain goupil)

You were

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here for the projection of death at 30 years,

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not only death,

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but mainly death.

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S… Speaker 3 (romain goupil)

Yes,

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and I wanted to know your perception of death.

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S… Speaker 3 (romain goupil)

The invitation

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is,

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for me,

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of importance.

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Because

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there are three films.

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That's not the case of usual.

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And it's a contemporary film about the war and the war continues,

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the first film.

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Kieff,

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which is a contemporary film that continues

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to develop.

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To die in the 30th century is,

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on the other hand,

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a mix between the archives and the

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historical history.

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In the case of the house,

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no, of dying 30 years old,

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Ivan

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Pinto, of the Fuga,

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I think it's a good cultural aggregator.

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For 30 years to die,

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his voice is enough to talk about him,

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about his personal experience.

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And for the spectator,

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it can also be him,

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or he can not be him.

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Because for him it was the political of the moment.

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It was Iraq,

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it was my position,

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it was Sarajevo,

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I don't know what it was.

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But it's incredible how this film works for everyone.

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Particularmente había un espectador

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que estaba muy molesto,

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estaba furioso,

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porque para él,

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el contenido de la película hablaba

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sobre una política actual que podría haber sido la de Idaq,

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por ejemplo.

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And it's a fiction film with Valeria Bruni

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Tedeschi,

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Marina Hans,

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actors.

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So,

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a pure documentary,

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Kiv,

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the archives and the history of dying

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at 30 years,

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and the mains in the air,

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which is a conflict of children against the

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injustices,

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against the expulsion of their friends.

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So,

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this invitation includes three projections that are

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quite different.

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One, one is...

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It's a documentary,

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Kiev.

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Deux places de la victoire,

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Kiev. Ah,

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reportage.

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Claro, un reportage.

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Luego está Morir a los 30 años,

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que es ficción documental.

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Luego está...

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Lema Ola que se trata sobre

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niños que hacen un complot

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por injusticia.

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¿Comentó

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algo del espectador?

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I wanted to ask you more

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retrospectively about dying.

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We're going to talk about the others,

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but now I want to ask you this question about dying in 30 years.

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Retrospectively,

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do you want to say something?

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Just a little bit.

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He wants to ask you,

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he will continue with the question,

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but more retrospectively,

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he will ask you about 30 years.

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Yes, one question.

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It's

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a movie from 1982,

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and one has the retrospective

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impression that it's a very important movie

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to mark a duel.

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Duelo.

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Duelo,

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c 'est quoi ?

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C 'est le deuil.

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Bon,

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c 'est mourir à 30 ans,

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il y a déjà 50 ans.

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Il y a l 'impression,

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penser d 'une rétrospective,

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c 'est très important par rapport au deuil.

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Oui,

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mais c 'est le deuil d 'une

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génération, c 'est le deuil d 'une illusion.

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We could call it an illusion now.

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Well,

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it's the duel of a generation,

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of an illusion,

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that we can call it an illusion.

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How we were young

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and enthousiastes,

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and how we were militants.

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We thought we would change everything.

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They said that they were young,

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they were enthusiastic and militants,

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and they had the impression that they could change everything.

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And everything was born from the beginning as a

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commitment against Vietnam War.

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We are completely engaged with

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Michel and this group.

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We become leaders.

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In schools,

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in 1968,

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we become leaders.

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In 1973,

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it

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was the end of the film on the most

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violent manifestation,

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the most organized,

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the most military,

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that we had in Paris.

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And in 1973,

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the most violent manifestation,

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but also the most organized that was done in Paris.

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It's the 21st of June.

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And in September,

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there was a coup d 'Etat in Chile.

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And in September,

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there was a coup d 'Etat in Chile.

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And now, it's the end of the illusions.

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on the idea of the armed struggle.

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Our idea

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was to make a general war,

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and that the general war becomes insurrectional,

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and then we took the power,

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like the Bolsheviks.

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It was the end of the illusion of the armed

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struggle, to return power as

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an insurrection break,

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like the case of the Bolcheviks.

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So Michel goes to prison,

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and in the case of Romain and the other directors,

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they leave and hide.

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And we think,

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and we

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read, and we talk about the

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illusion, the illusion of doing 1917

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in 1973.

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So they start reading,

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they continue to talk about this illusion of reopening 1917

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and 1973.

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But it's incredible.

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But that's what's

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incredible. The generation who saw the film thinks

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that it's revolutionary and lyric.

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But the generation who saw this film thinks it's a revolutionary

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film and lyricist.

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For him it was a bit of a desperate film

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about the duel,

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especially the end of this illusion,

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and he said that he didn't

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manage to give so many elements to the rest

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of his friends who continued to be militant.

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in Portugal,

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in Belgium,

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in France,

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in the province,

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there is always an affront.

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And

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even in Chile.

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And even 50

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years later,

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in Portugal,

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in Belgium, in France,

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the projections are always conflicted.

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Actualmente, ya sus amigos son más viejos,

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ya no son militantes y ahora él

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puede hablar y puede decir lo que piensa.

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I can say after,

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in a discussion,

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that you are wrong.

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And

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the spectator says,

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no, you are the one who is wrong.

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You are the traitor.

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You are the traitor.

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And you are the apostate.

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apostate in religion.

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with the idea of closing

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a little bit,

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right? The commemorations,

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or at least do something and discuss it.

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Yes, yes,

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sorry.

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So,

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you came back in 2018

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with La Traversée.

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And this year,

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in 2018...

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Daniel Cohn -Bendit.

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Daniel Cohn -Bendit.

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S… Speaker 1 (romain goupil)

Daniel Cohn -Bendit.

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S… Speaker 2 (romain goupil)

Daniel Cohn -Bendit. Daniel Cohn -Bendit.

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S… Speaker 2 (romain goupil)

Daniel Cohn -Bendit.

14:28

S… Speaker 2 (romain goupil)

Daniel Cohn -Bendit.

14:28

S… Speaker 1 (romain goupil)

Daniel Cohn -Bendit.

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Daniel Cohn

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-Bendit.

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And so the journey with Vindy?

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There is now a different France.

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Of course.

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The principle of the cross,

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Daniel Kohlmeldt is the only one

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who understood that 1968 was not the Bolshevik

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revolution, but that it was a culture revolution,

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like Berkeley,

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like Japan,

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like England.

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It was the jeunesse against

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the moral order.

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Well,

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and Vendid,

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said Romain,

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for him was the only one who understood

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that this revolution was a cultural revolution.

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Like in Japan.

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Contra the moral order.

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Contra the generation of governments from

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the Second World War.

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Of course,

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against this generation of governments after the Second World

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War.

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It's incredible to ask the question.

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I am with my best friend,

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Daniel Koldenwitz.

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And it's

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the opposite of dying at 30 years.

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He is not dead.

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And we talk about politics about

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a France that has completely changed.

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And

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that's not at all.

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Ah, and it's a film that the militants

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didn't really like. Because they were still traitors.

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Because they were still traitors.

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We had a social democratic discussion,

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more revolutionary.

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France is a

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country with many privileges,

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where things can change,

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but there is no revolutionary

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discussion.

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And the privileges are privileges

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of the fight for social security.

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free education,

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protection of children,

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protection of women,

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all the fights that we have made for two

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centuries, we have gained them now in France.

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And the only

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thing that remains,

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the only fight with Dany and me and with President

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Macron is on the immigrants.

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Why do we treat xenophobic

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people who come and arrive in France?

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He says that the fights that remain with

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Daniel,

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with Macron,

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are the fight against migrants,

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against xenophobia.

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And the increase in France of 40 % of a vote of

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the right.

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And the increase in France of Marine Le Pen is of a vote of

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40 % of the extreme -right.

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Of course, and from Marine Le Pen,

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he increased 40 % the ultra

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-right movement.

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That's the fight.

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Yes,

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in your hands in the air,

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the fiction movie,

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is the problem from a

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child who is migrant,

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and

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I think it is part of the problem.

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In The Mains in the Air,

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there is this person who is a

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migrant child who

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talks about this new problem,

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which is the new fight,

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which is the migration.

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They don't trust the adults,

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they don't trust the teachers,

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they don't trust the authorities.

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It's the children of 11 years old.

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They will reunite their forces

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against the adults.

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They do not believe in the adults.

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They do not listen to

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the adults.

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Of course, but in this film,

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what the children of 11 -12 years old do is that they

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do not believe in the adults,

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they do not believe in the authority,

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in the teachers.

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What they do is reunite to make a

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force against each other.

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So now

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it's like a balance...

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And our ideal to Daniel Cohn -Bendit,

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to me,

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and at the very beginning of the President Macron,

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was Europe.

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It was to make the United States of Europe.

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And the ideal for him,

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for Daniel,

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for Macron,

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was that the European Union was

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a kind of United States in Europe.

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Just

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a

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little bit difficult,

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but how do you think about the challenges?

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cultural and political,

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in a

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moment in France,

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in a political climate very changed,

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where the extreme -right -right

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emerge, and other positions emerge.

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And I imagine,

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I don't know if it's very delicate,

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but just post Charlie Hebdo,

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like all this movement.

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strong defense of borders.

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So I would like to ask you a little bit about how he visualizes

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the conflict cultural,

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political,

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of the integration of France in this moment,

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how he sees that climate.

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It's a complex and delicate question,

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but I would like to ask you a question.

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on this new subject and because there

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is a cultural and

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political struggle in this moment in France which

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constantly change and

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where there is a strong presence of the extreme

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-droite.

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And with all the problems in the borders,

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how do you see,

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what do you think about the conflict

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of integration?

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I see that it's

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a terrible recovery,

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a terrible failure for my generation,

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for Daniel Convey,

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for me.

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There is something...

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We have Hungary,

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Orban,

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FICO,

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Slovakia,

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Mélanie,

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Italy,

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l 'Autriche,

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with the extreme -droite,

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which is on place,

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the threats in Romania,

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terrible discourse everywhere

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in Europe,

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the AfD in Germany,

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20%.

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For us,

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it's terrible.

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For me,

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it's terrible.

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And if you add,

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for Ivan,

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for the pleasure,

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Trump,

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with MAGA,

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and 11 million

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migrants expulsed...

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It's terrifying.

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This idea of the world is terrifying for us,

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for Majora.

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He talks about many countries such as Hungary,

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Slovakia,

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Italy,

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Austria,

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where the extreme right is very strong.

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He talks about the threats that are in Romania,

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with terrible discurses about Europe.

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And if he adds Trump to MAGA,

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11 million migrants have already been expulsed.

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For him it's something terrible.

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And in Germany.

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In Germany,

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20 % of the extreme -right Nazi.

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And in Germany he talks about this 20 % of the extreme -right

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Nazi.

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They are for the re -migration.

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Re -migration means a minister

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where we would say...

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You are foreign,

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you are naturalized,

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but it's done,

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you have to return to your country,

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even if you are naturalized.

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It's like the anti -Juive laws in France in

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1940.

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You are a foreigner and now,

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even if you are a legal foreigner,

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you have to go back to your country.

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Like the anti -Judian laws in France in the 1940s.

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Well,

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here the question is,

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what do you think about the

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cinema? What do you think about the cinema?

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