WB22

Kaikōrero

• Speaker 1 0:05
• Speaker 2 0:04
• Speaker 3 5:15
• Speaker 4 5:02
• Speaker 5 7:42
• Speaker 6 1:13:07
• Speaker 7 1:11:30

1. 0:04

   Waihoki 1: Hi, good morning, how are you? 298s · Speaker 2

   Hi, good morning, how are you? Good on you? Good, thank you. Good morning, my name is Lindsay. I've been appointed to facilitate this end of probation investigation. So I just want to, for the purpose of the record, just introduce myself. I…

2. 5:02

   Waihoki 2: That is, I've been doing this job for previous companies. 159s · Speaker 4

   That is, I've been doing this job for previous companies. How many years? For about... Sorry, I just need to shout. Roughly four years before I started here. I'm just going to wait for that notification of today's proceedings. I think I cou…

3. 7:42

   Waihoki 3: Yes. I think as it says. 65s · Speaker 5

   Yes. I think as it says. No, outside except the shops. We don't have shops to it. Or a fellow employee? No, I'll represent myself. Okay. And you're fine with English? Yes, I'm fine with English, yeah. Okay, do you have enough time to prepar…

4. 8:47

   Waihoki 4: Okay, thanks. 300s · Speaker 2

   Okay, thanks. Was there any documentation that you requested that you were not granted access to? I have not received my contract, just my offer letter. Did you request a copy of the contract? Is there a contract applicable? It's the same o…

5. 13:47

   Waihoki 5: Breakdown, I sent him. 294s · Speaker 2

   Breakdown, I sent him. I said to him, please get back to me and let me know with the stuff because I'm not getting the information out of the CRM that's busy running. But Lifa got back to me and he said to me, he can't fulfill all those fun…

6. 18:49

   Waihoki 6: Okay, anything else from the other side of the stage? 300s · Speaker 2

   Okay, anything else from the other side of the stage? No, that's just basic outcomes with the process. Do you have any questions for the employer? Maybe just to confirm, if he says on the 16th of February, that's where he sent me the... And…

7. 23:50

   Waihoki 7: According to him, it was spoken about in February, 16th of February, you had to start implementing a light manual CRM. 79s · Speaker 1

   According to him, it was spoken about in February, 16th of February, you had to start implementing a light manual CRM. Yes. So that was... So what, in your opinion, why would, before you commence employment, you be sent through something in…

8. 25:10

   Waihoki 8: You can't fulfill those functions 100%. 100s · Speaker 2

   You can't fulfill those functions 100%. You can only do 50 % of those things I've asked you. That was not the 15th of March. That is, again, as a date, it was the 15th of April. Okay, what happened on the 15th of March? I mean, the 16th of …

9. 26:50

   Waihoki 9: And then on the 18th of March, where did he inform you that he can't fulfill? 164s · Speaker 4

   And then on the 18th of March, where did he inform you that he can't fulfill? No. Said 18th of March he can't fulfill all those. Then on the 15th of March when the CRM was working. Okay. Okay, now we're going back a day, because now we've j…

10. 29:34

    Waihoki 10: I think, as you said, I'll do it when I do my submission. 263s · Speaker 3

    I think, as you said, I'll do it when I do my submission. Perfect. It's your submission now. If you don't have any other questions, then you'll have the opportunity now. Okay. Maybe then... Okay. Sorry. I'll do my process. Yes. I'm sorry. I…

11. 33:58

    Waihoki 11: Okay. Yes. 119s · Speaker 4

    Okay. Yes. You're informed you don't have access. On Fundist, I have limited access, so I can't see deposits. and other reports that are essential for my job. I did make them aware verbally. I can't find written proofs, so I can't say I did…

12. 35:58

    Waihoki 12: No, find it now. 10s · Speaker 5

    No, find it now. We've got more time now because he needs to have the opportunity to question it. So there's no point in making submissions because it's going to be too prejudiced to both sides if Samberg told him. Understood.

13. 40:00

    Waihoki 13: I can't find those. 300s · Speaker 1

    I can't find those. I made those. Yeah. So I'm going to continue. Okay, yeah. Okay, so then your last submission had to create models. It had to be approved by Mariano. Implemented. He did to be implemented. He did approve. Okay, you've bee…

14. 45:01

    Waihoki 14: That was sent through to Vodacom. 66s · Speaker 4

    That was sent through to Vodacom. And then the things they needed, the data they needed, which they didn't communicate in detail over the first meeting, is what arranged the second meeting. That was missed. Sorry, I jumped a lot of things. …

15. 46:07

    Waihoki 15: it was his office actually. 172s · Speaker 2

    it was his office actually. Sorry, my apologies. And that's when he's like, he's not happy with my performance. He doesn't want to throw me out to the walls, but he wants to see some improvement. I was like, I definitely don't want to leave…

16. 49:00

    Waihoki 16: So the 15th of April was? 300s · Speaker 3

    So the 15th of April was? Wednesday or Thursday. 15th of April was a Wednesday. Yes. So you spoke to him on the Wednesday, and you came into work on the Wednesday, Thursday, Friday? The 14th I came in, that's when we had the meeting. The 15…

17. 54:00

    Waihoki 17: during the Wednesday. 301s · Speaker 1

    during the Wednesday. And you arranged it? Yes. And you didn't feel the need to postpone it? That's where I made a huge blunder. And I acknowledge that. Yeah? During the course of this meeting, when you had it on the 15th of April, no, at t…

18. 59:02

    Waihoki 18: There is none. 77s · Speaker 1

    There is none. So there's none? Handover documents, yes. But were the previous promotions run, previous churn, those things that you said to me now? Yes. Did you request those? Yes, verbally. And what is the response when you ask for that? …

19. 1:00:20

    Waihoki 19: There's no handle there. 301s · Speaker 3

    There's no handle there. There's no onboarding. Yeah, no. Leave it there for now. Okay. Tell me, in terms of the... Specs that are ultimately sent to you on the 15th of April in terms of the expectations of the role that Mariana sent to you…

20. 1:05:22

    Waihoki 20: When I first saw you in November, how did you, what did you put yourself in the internet? 64s · Speaker 2

    When I first saw you in November, how did you, what did you put yourself in the internet? I won't remember now, I think Chase. As a Smartica expert with five years of experience. Okay, that's why we brought you in for, that's why we brought…

21. 1:06:26

    Waihoki 21: So. The current system, in the interview, you just confirmed that you can take over the current system, is that correct? 71s · Speaker 5

    So. The current system, in the interview, you just confirmed that you can take over the current system, is that correct? Smartico. I didn't know anything about Fundus at the time, nor did we discuss it. Okay, just hold on. And is the curren…

22. 1:07:38

    Waihoki 22: Okay. Now, what the company's saying is that that current system aligns with what it's sent through to you on the 17th of November before your interview. 232s · Speaker 4

    Okay. Now, what the company's saying is that that current system aligns with what it's sent through to you on the 17th of November before your interview. Those KPI's, those pictures, those graphs and so forth. Yes. So you need to be able to…

23. 1:11:30

    Waihoki 23: Because, let me just get the date for you here. 96s · Speaker 7

    Because, let me just get the date for you here. But what does Smartico being on and offline have to do with Fundus? So these are two different systems. Smartico automates it for you. I understand. And then Fundus requires you to do it. So i…

24. 1:13:07

    Waihoki 24: Okay. Fundus is the back office. 300s · Speaker 6

    Okay. Fundus is the back office. Whatever the case would be. That's where all the information is stored about all the people and so forth, et cetera, et cetera. Okay. Smartico is an automatic system that the CRM draws A, B and C. Now you're…

25. 1:18:08

    Waihoki 25: this is coding. 119s · Speaker 1

    this is coding. So if you didn't understand the Findus system, how did you know how to do that? Because that is a very integral part of our system, which could break certain things if you're not knowledgeable enough to know. So how do you k…

26. 1:20:07

    Waihoki 26: this? We all were self -trained through the videos that were sent in the 11th of March. 129s · Speaker 4

    this? We all were self -trained through the videos that were sent in the 11th of March. Was there a request from your side for further training from the 11th of March to say that this is not adequate, I need more training, I need more time,…

27. 1:22:16

    Waihoki 27: On the 21st, when he went down to Durban, I didn't intend to take leave on the 21st, I told him to take leave on the 22nd. 88s · Speaker 2

    On the 21st, when he went down to Durban, I didn't intend to take leave on the 21st, I told him to take leave on the 22nd. You can't be working remotely, you're missing meetings, you've scheduled meetings, please put in for leave. So the 21…

28. 1:23:45

    Waihoki 28: conversation of which is on now. 157s · Speaker 3

    conversation of which is on now. was that I take leave. And it didn't specify when. Okay. You must remember that that's why I've also made very minimal notes about the whole leave thing because you're here for incapacity, probationary perio…

29. 1:26:23

    Waihoki 29: But say them, rather say them than don't say them in an automated discrimination. 95s · Speaker 4

    But say them, rather say them than don't say them in an automated discrimination. I just didn't want you to emphasize this day, this day, this day, when it's not really going to be relevant. The whole point of me being on leave is because t…