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This man is the man who scares me the most.

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If I'm asking you,

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why should I watch this podcast?

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Good question.

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Two ways of looking at it.

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One, people who don't use AI.

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Two, people who are only using it.

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What to use,

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where to use,

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where not to use is what we'll try to tell you here.

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Think about Elon Musk.

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He's the same guy

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who's the reason why even Indian roads have electric cars.

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He's the guy when he said,

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I will land the rocket back.

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NASA laughed,

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the world laughed.

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He made it happen.

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A straight -headed person doesn't think like this.

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How was Steve Jobs?

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Have you ever read his biography?

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How was Bill Gates?

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For you to build something so disruptive,

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you have to be twisted,

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man.

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You have to be mad.

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The highest paid people in the AI world are going to be salespeople.

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Who puts the product in hands of people?

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It's the salesperson.

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This is low value work.

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This is high value work.

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Become that.

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The Meta team showed me the future Glass.

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I had a chance to play with it.

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It's insane, bro.

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We are opening

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up about things with AI that we will not with any human in the world.

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Our deepest insecurity.

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I don't want my messages to get leaked.

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Do you want to get emotional support?

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You're talking to me.

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What are you talking about?

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Oh, his name is Mamshi,

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right?

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What's the question?

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I said,

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take a girlfriend.

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So I wanted to know.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So...

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It doesn't feel like you're talking to an AI.

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You're talking to an AI.

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You're talking to an AI.

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You're talking to an AI.

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You're talking to an AI.

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No, this is more scary.

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This is about us.

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This is the podcast.

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This is viral.

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So, this man is the man who scares me the most.

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So,

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he gets me into a

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reality, which is actually a new world altogether.

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So,

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again,

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my intent is never to scare.

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For sure, I know.

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My intent has always been,

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now,

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what you

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do with that information is up to you.

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Of course.

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So I'm hoping,

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if you think I'm scaring people,

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let's do more solution -oriented stuff today then.

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We can talk about solution -oriented,

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we can talk about solutions.

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Absolutely.

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One question I wanted to ask you,

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because what's the intent behind you coming to Hyderabad

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all the way for two days,

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two long days,

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almost 6 -6 hours,

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should we have clarity for our clients?

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For the viewer who's watching,

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I wanted them to sit with a book and pen or laptop

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or just note down everything in their phones.

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So if I'm asking you,

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as a layman who's watching it,

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why should I watch this podcast?

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Not just this,

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the second one also.

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Maybe in a week's time.

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So,

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why should someone watch?

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I genuinely am telling you on the screen.

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Please,

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over to you.

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The reason,

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according to me,

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is, one is that,

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if you're ambitious,

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and you want to win.

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Because we are living in an AI

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first world.

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And a lot of people,

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But the actual reality is if you want to not

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fail in this world,

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there are two kinds of people who will definitely fail in this AI first world.

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And I don't want your audience or my audience to be that.

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One,

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people who don't use AI,

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they will definitely fail.

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Very,

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very hard for you to succeed because you're competing.

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with something 100 times smarter than everyone

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else you're around.

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If you're not using it,

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then you're not going to succeed.

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Two, people who are only using it.

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Then also you'll not succeed,

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you'll fail.

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So knowing the difference between what

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to use, where to use,

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where not to use.

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is what we'll try to tell you here.

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Perfect.

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So I will not tell you that after watching this podcast,

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you will succeed.

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That depends on you.

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Right?

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What I will tell you is,

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what you should not do,

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so that you don't fail.

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In the AI first world.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And in context,

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there was a community.

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I joined last time.

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So I thought,

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this time I'll shout it out again.

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Because I'm getting a lot of information from

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there. Almost,

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I joined the

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WhatsApp group.

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Yeah, yeah.

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When we open it,

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we have a few thoughts.

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That's how we generally explore.

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So this time I thought,

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it's open to anyone.

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It's free.

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We do it for free.

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So what we'll do is like,

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we'll put the link down.

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Let everyone join.

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Let's see how many days it will turn out.

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I want you to pause and click the link in the description.

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And let's see in the comments below if you have joined.

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Because...

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Where do we get the updates?

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I'm actually staying ahead.

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The name of the community,

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we call it staying ahead.

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It's right now the largest,

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probably the largest AI community.

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What's the number?

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The total community size is 15 million people.

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On WhatsApp,

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we recently started purely for India because India is all on WhatsApp.

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So on WhatsApp,

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we have 5 lakh people.

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Four months.

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WhatsApp started 3 -4 months in.

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I think you should join.

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The idea of this was there.

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The biggest question that I would get everywhere I go is,

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what is that single source where I can learn

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and know what AI has done in the easiest

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way possible?

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My answer was,

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you have to read Twitter,

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you have to read Reddit,

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you have to do this,

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you have to do that.

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And nobody was happy with the answer.

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I was like,

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let's make a community.

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And we made it.

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That's why we made it free.

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Crazy.

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Right?

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So I think everybody has a shot at staying up to date.

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No.

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Must join in the description.

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Do join and comment down.

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Thanks,

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man.

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JC was in the last episode of JC.

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Both virtual and Arne Nagar Kuchhi.

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In that 10 months,

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there was a bite in the teaser.

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We were able to govern it.

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What was the chance to chat GPT or general?

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It was two years ago.

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We didn't have the position to take it.

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Let's talk two years later.

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Let's talk one year later.

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Almost one year later.

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Tell me what's happening now.

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What's happening around

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the world?

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How are you looking at this fantasy?

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Yeah,

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I think AI was like a,

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I think,

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easy language,

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smart intern.

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Today it has become like the,

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probably the one of the smartest employees

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that anyone can have.

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Right?

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So,

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In a technical language,

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we have an assistant,

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which is a chat assistant,

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right? No question or answer.

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Great.

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Today it has gone to doing things for you.

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So it has agents.

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It has become as mainstream as

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it can get today.

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I cannot imagine a thing that I

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can do that my AI can't do.

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I mean.

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physical world I'm talking about digital world yeah right so obviously

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I still have to eat the biryani which

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I still want to eat but you get my

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point right so it has evolved quite significantly I think in

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last so weirdly enough right in the last three months we

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have grown

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probably more than what normally would take a year or

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two, in just last two,

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three months.

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So, a year or two in the AI world,

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regularly, if technology shifts in two,

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three months, it's just insane.

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When I say drops,

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a ton of new updates came in yesterday,

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and they were just insane.

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So, I think the game is changing.

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Let's be more,

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let me be a layman in this world.

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How do we differentiate or define,

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for a person who doesn't know this,

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agent,

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AI agent,

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workflow management,

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automation?

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If we

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just talk about those,

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these three terms are the meaning.

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So basically,

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first is your AI assistant,

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which is Chad,

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GPT, Gemini,

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Claude, Groot.

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That is basically when you ask a question,

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you answer your answer.

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Right?

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Your task is finished.

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This is the assistant.

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Right?

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Now,

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I'll tell you what an AI agent is.

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Let's say an email agent.

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The email agent is always on.

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Even the way Jerry evolved is just insane.

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We will talk about it if you want to.

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The kind of things it can do right now is just wild.

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Because of new technology.

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that came into the world called as Open Claw.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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But before we get there,

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agents,

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Aniti, it does work.

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Asynchronously.

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Like it does on the go.

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Example?

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Example.

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Let's say email is the example.

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This is what I'm thinking the reply should be.

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Write the email.

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But if it's an email agent,

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let's say.

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If you've built an agent,

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for instance,

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you can give access to tools.

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Okay.

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So you can give access to your Gmail.

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You can give access to your skill of writing.

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and access each other every time there's an email that is coming to you you don't have to say reply

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to this email you can set up an agent in a way where every time an email comes

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you read the email if it

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is not so important and let's say some

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fan he said great content love your content it's a nice piece

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you reply saying thank you so much for being nice you automatically

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reply you send the email let's say one more email

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I'm saying let's say you want it to be automated completely. An agent is automating.

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Some big sponsor.

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Let's say Google wants to work with you.

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It's not going to reply saying,

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okay, we can work.

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This is my payment.

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This is the price.

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You pay me.

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There it will,

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no agent set up.

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Okay,

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partnership or any,

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this kind of very important email comes.

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You don't reply to that email.

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An agent update yesterday.

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You Slack, you WhatsApp,

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you ping yesterday.

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Right.

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Saying that there's an important email.

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Please get back to it.

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Or let's say your team manages it.

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A team member partnerships manage.

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While he just copies.

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Right.

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So this is agent.

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You set a guideline saying that this is what we want you to solve for.

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Or there is an email which is let's say someone.

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You will just read it so that you don't even have to come across negativity.

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You just archive it.

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So you can set up these rules.

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You can write a very interesting system prompt.

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So it will work like a 24 -7

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employee for you.

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That is an AI agent usually.

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Which doesn't usually need a trigger.

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The trigger is in a way automatic.

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The trigger is in a way automatic.

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It's like a 24 -7 working employer.

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So one quick question.

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How much of an agent is built?

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How much of an agent is built?

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How much of a technical knowledge is built?

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How much of an open -claw platform is built?

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How much of an open -claw platform is built?

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How much of an agent is built?

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Most of the things that were built were no code.

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Diagon drop 95 % is built.

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Ippudu, that has become even simpler.

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Vibe coding,

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I don't know.

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I think we built a landing page or whatever also last time.

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That was Vibe coding.

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Now,

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incidentally,

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just a few days back,

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Claude dropped something called as managed agents.

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Managed agents.

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Like literally,

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you probably might not have even come across.

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Right?

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Anthropic website,

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Anthropic,

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console .anthropic .com,

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which is the login layer of Anthropic,

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not Claude.

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You will have managed agents.

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Just like your vibe coding,

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you just say that,

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hey,

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I want my emails to be managed end -to -end by an

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AI. Now,

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when you talk about email, you can drop a voice note.

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Use a tool like Whisperflow.

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Like I spoke to you yesterday,

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last time.

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Whisperflow will not explain anything to the agent.

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It will guide you through five different steps.

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Questions.

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Very simple UI.

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After that,

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it will build you the agent.

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Then it will have a code study.

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Simple code.

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A code,

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either lovable or replete,

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drop,

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you can create a UI.

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You can do all those

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integrations as well that you want

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to. Here,

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it's just text to agent app.

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So effectively,

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when you think about all these things,

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right?

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I have thought about this saying,

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like use those tools,

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everything, which is still very,

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very important.

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Background,

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you know,

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simplify,

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simplify,

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you cannot get the most out of it.

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But today,

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something that is coming out,

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which is becoming even more valuable is to have a

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core idea to start with.

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Yeah.

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And that is also becoming like almost zero.

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Anything you can imagine can be done with AI almost in some form or fashion.

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But this is so what I was trying to say is you don't really need to be

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a developer.

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You don't really need to be a technical person to build agents.

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In that tool,

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there is a workflow builder.

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You know how to build it.

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There is also a technical requirement.

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A technical requirement is a learning requirement.

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You are listening for the first time,

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trigger, action,

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this, that and all.

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People will be like,

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what is this?

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Even I was,

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I was trying to do it.

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But this time it is the game changer.

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So you just tell it and it's going to build it.

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right?

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N8N is good.

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ChatGPT has,

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you know,

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OpenAI, chat SDK,

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which does something similar.

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Everybody is building,

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I mean, Gemini also has their own builder called as Opal,

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which is also an agent builder,

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which is again,

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text to agents,

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pretty much.

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So everything is converging.

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Zapier can also build agents.

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Zapier has almost become like text to agent.

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Right.

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So LLMs have become so smart that the only

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thing that it is doing really well these days is asking you follow up questions,

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which is important.

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So

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to

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break this barrier,

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all these models have become very smart.

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by pushing these builders to ask you a lot of questions.

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And I recommend a lot of people that they type

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and they type.

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Because they don't know.

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Right?

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So when we

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use voice,

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because I majorly use voice for everything,

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whenever you can describe what you want at length,

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when you give a lot of context.

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I always end that prompt with a very simple rhyme.

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Did you understand?

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Explain me what you understood.

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Because I didn't say anything,

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I didn't say anything.

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Because I didn't say anything,

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I didn't say anything.

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I didn't say anything.

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So these are little,

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little nuances.

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Just ask.

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That's the point.

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Before you build anything,

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especially for vibe coding or vibe building,

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anything that I'm trying to build,

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agent or any,

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app or any,

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website or any,

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I have this tendency and a habit that ask

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me questions.

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Before you build it,

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you ask me questions.

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Questions after all,

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I again ask,

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this is it.

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Don't you have any more questions?

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When I know it is more complicated,

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I want it to ask more questions because I don't have clarity.

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In the past,

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we need to do something.

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