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Can we stay here?
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We just stay in the hotel
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which is quite nearby the university.
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We will
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stay here only one day,
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then we will come to downtown with Eri.
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Hello, from the University,
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we have another meeting tomorrow morning.
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We are going to meeting
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our alumni.
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Good morning.
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Hi,
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I'm
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a speaker, a wife's team of International Affairs.
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Yeah,
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we have called the Dean of our disability president of
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Shopee.
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We're being partnered with us last
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year.
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We had
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a report from the international office,
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the international programs,
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the international programs.
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And the exchange in the way is,
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and our
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Dean can discuss more about that.
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We are looking forward to discuss how we can strengthen the cooperation between
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the two law schools.
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And we have a very long time for having an
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important relationship between the two law schools.
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And thank you so much for supporting us.
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I can say that you are the first Chinese
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university that we are here from and have our agreement with.
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So I think it shows our growth for new friends.
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And we are helping in fostering our relationships.
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I mean,
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from our side,
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we believe the relationship between your law school is very important for Tsinghua.
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Yeah, and we want in the future we can have more student
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exchange between the two law schools.
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And maybe we also can strengthen our
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cooperation in student education.
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I know today is very busy for you.
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Yeah,
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it's okay.
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But that's a good sign and there's pros and cons
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if you come during the...
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academic calendar it will be difficult to find a slot
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of schedule to have the meeting but it's a good time to meet the students
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because the students are here right so we want to do a sharing session and some
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of the partners university try to attend in january and june i understand
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they are in a break and a holiday so they have a time but we cannot arrange that sharing
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sessions with the students
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when the rest of the students are not here.
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So we send emails,
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we send questions,
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and we try to arrange a special
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time so students can come and listen to them.
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Thank you for all the clients and thoughtful arrangements.
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I really appreciate that.
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I know there are some changes around schedules,
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but the team is still supportive.
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Thank you.
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How long have you been here?
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We will stay in Indonesia
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only for 3 days.
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Today we will stay here
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and tomorrow we will go to downtown with a meeting with the foundation
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and we will go to see our alumni in Indonesia.
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high interest or demands of our students to come to Genwok.
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I also wonder,
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because it's student exchange agreement,
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how's your student interest in learning about Indonesian law
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or spending time here at the faculty?
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Yeah, and we will try our best to give
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more promotion,
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to encourage students to come here.
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And we also hope that it is possible for
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you because I remember many years ago.
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The two teams of the two law schools have discussed whether students are
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interested to come to Tsinghua for exchange as well as
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study some degree programs.
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So we call it a 3 plus 1 grant.
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Currently,
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we still want to continue this grant.
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Some universities in different countries in Asia,
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they are interested to join this brand.
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So we may discuss with you and also Dean about this
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brand. Yeah,
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that's a really interesting program.
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We had a discussion in Chihuahua in Beijing,
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May 2025.
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I think one of the points that's going to halt the
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discussion is...
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Sorry,
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correct me if I'm wrong.
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the requirement.
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So when the students enter the 3 plus 1
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programs, as per our policy,
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we will not issue the certificates or transcript yet.
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It is subject for their completions in
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our popular universities.
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Because in the past,
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when the student has already given the transcript and diploma or
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certificates, and then they might not continue to our popular university.
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Since we will not issue the certificate or transcript,
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then,
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correct me if I'm wrong,
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the Jinghua will not consider and enroll
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them as the master or postgraduate students.
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So then the students might take one
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semester in Tsinghua,
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but then they have to go back to Indonesia in order to graduate and
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then go back again to Tsinghua to finish their major study.
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That's what I remember.
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And then we did
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not discuss further about that because that scheme,
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that arrangement,
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it's kind of complex.
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and to offer to the students because the students then need to go
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back and forth, back and forth.
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And yeah,
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we would love to discuss more about that.
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Probably we would have with the Browns on that arrangement.
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Yeah,
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I see.
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I think there's a meeting.
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year, in May, right?
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Oh, come on.
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Yes.
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Hi.
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Hi.
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Hi.
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Hi.
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This is Professor Longchuen.
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This is Professor Wang Yau.
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Yeah, he's in charge of the International Affairs.
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Thank you so much.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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My name is Iris.
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I'm from the International Office.
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I'm from
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the
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International Office.
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My name is Brian Brastia.
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I'm the first leader for Academy Conference.
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I want to sing why in 2019.
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Did we meet?
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I think so.
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There's a conference related to
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cyber law.
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So we have
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10 departments,
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might belong to economics and
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business economics.
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So thank you for coming to visit our faculty and
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probably Pak Chokki mentioned more.
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Let's live here.
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I was in high school,
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actually.
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I was in class year,
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in 2005.
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After the conference,
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I was in high school.
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I mean, he also just walked in
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high school.
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I have many classmates from Tsinghua.
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During I take master's degree in Japan,
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Kyushu University.
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And Tsinghua have a special program with Kyudai,
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Kyushu University.
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Many
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of my classmates come from Tsinghua.
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So, once again, thank you very much for your support.
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for having to our faculty.
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This is part of their job.
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we are in the office.
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So, this year,
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we have
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100
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I started this in
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1984 with the Netherlands because the
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Indonesian government
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district really want
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to have a school of work because they
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want Indonesians to ensure possible
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appointed as a judge.
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Before it was not Indonesian,
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it was in this colony.
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Thank
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you,
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and you can open it up and open it up.
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This is
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my vice dean for academy of veterans in Buenos Aires,
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Dr.
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Uri,
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chief program for virtual.
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UFA,
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International Office,
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and also our
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researchers, all of these students,
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and Dr.
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Dali from Master's Secretariat Program,
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Chief Program for Master's.
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Actually,
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we speak very open to
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our school,
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and some of our students also
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Yes, I think we sent four of them to Shibua.
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So, please.
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Firstly,
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I want to say thank you so much for hosting us,
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especially during those busy schedules there
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for you.
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Actually,
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this is my first time to come to Indonesia,
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and also a welcome to my colleagues.
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But I know that our two law school have very important friendship.
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Our university is the most valuable friendship
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between.
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I want to give a very brief introduction to Tsinghua Law School.
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Tsinghua Law School actually is one of the oldest law schools in China.
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We have Tsinghua's law department in 1921.
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So we have a lot of famous
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alumni in this area.
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Tsinghua's law school
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was a law of education.
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and we
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started the legal education
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in 1995 so currently we
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almost have 30 years after
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we continue
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Yes.
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And Tsinghua Law School is a small law school.
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We only have about 30 faculties.
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Actually,
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we are among the most prestigious
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law schools in China.
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And also,
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we are one of the two law schools
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which has the highest education in China,
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according to the QS team.
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So our law school has a very comprehensive experience.
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It includes almost every legal department's education
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in our law school.
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And we have the bachelor degree program,
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we have master degree program,
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we have the plural degree program,
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we have more academic as well as professional
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education at Chicago school even.
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We have a small size.
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So we also will emphasize the international cooperation
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with other law schools.
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one of our very very important partners in
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the Aisha area and I mean in the past few years,
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thank you so much for sending excellent students to
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come to Tsinghua to study Chinese law and we hope that we
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can continue to strengthen our flagship and cooperation
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with your law school again.
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Yes,
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we are doing this global attention.
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Here, we are also starting to move from the U
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.S.
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to the U .S.
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We are starting to expand for
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Japan and China.
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Why?
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Because our trading notice is very high.
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And China is many places also.
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Beijing,
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Shanghai,
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Hong Kong.
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So,
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in Indonesia,
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our...
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Business also is more and more.
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It's very important also for the practice.
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So we are eager to
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have special education at your
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high school.
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Of course,
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we already know,
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during I study in Japan also with
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our classmates.
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Especially from Jinghua,
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high school, I'm very...
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close with them,
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compared with Beijing,
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where Beijing was cool.
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Because,
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I don't know,
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we have 7 officials and
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they are not so,
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from Tsinghua,
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not so politics.
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But the other friend from Beijing is
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really politics thinking.
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And,
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yeah,
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I'm not so sorry.
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in politics.
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As I said,
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we are setting up business with a creative blow of
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business law.
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And yeah,
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I'm lucky we also ever,
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last year,
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after Ashley conference in Shanghai,
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I decided to come to Shanghai -based physical gym
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of old school and all,
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and stay in cafe,
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post,
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post,
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like that.
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once again,
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thank you.
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And of course,
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we should continue
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our cooperation.
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University and university already have a
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cooperation.
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Of course, our cooperation also at law school is very important.
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In the future,
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not only in the school,
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but also in the school, we connect with the practicing.
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Of course,
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a lawyer with special education.
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We are from low school in China and also a lawyer from
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our old school.
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And lucky for us,
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we are one of the Bar
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Association in Indonesia.
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We are close with this
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Bar Association.
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So,
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at the bachelor level,
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we have a
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class and we ask
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our students to have an international experience
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or exposure activities and it
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means that they can go for us studying
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in your university for one semester or
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if you open a student exchange program then our
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students can also
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apply for that.
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As of now we have five students conducting exchange
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in Tsinghua and I
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think it is a very interesting and
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beneficial experience.
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So we
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hope that to make this
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collaboration stronger maybe
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we can sign any
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you are in agreement to establish let's say a permanent
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student exchange program or maybe double degree program
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or research visit program while in
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a post -graduate program we we have two
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schools the first one is the LRM
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we call it master of law program and the other one is the master
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of notary
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While this master of notary may be very
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domestic because we focus more on teaching
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the skills to become a notary and land
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notary.
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So there's a lot
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of opportunity for collaboration
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in the master of law program.
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And the third one we have,
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we accept around
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20 to 25 students
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in our doctoral program.
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And we also conducting co
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-totel collaboration with one university
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in Australia and another one from France.
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is being processed now so we hope if there's possibility we
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can have a co -to -tel agreement also at
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least join
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supervision in a
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doctoral level or maybe your professors
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invited to become the
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dissertation examinator
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If you are willing, you can ask some of our professors to come
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to your university.
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So if these things are possible,
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then it's worth it.
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Seven
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years ago, the former dean,
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Dean Edmond Makarim,
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and I went to your campus.
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We met with Dean Shen.
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And Professor Singh?
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Former team.
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The former team?
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Ah, okay.
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So,
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Ivan recalling our discussion seven years ago,
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there was a discussion to establish Cingua campus in Bali,
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right?
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Yes.
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And what about that plan?
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Do you still continue that?
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Yes, I think the campus has already been built,
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and I think they are formally in use,
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starting from this year.
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This year?
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This year or next year,
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but it's very soon.
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But we are friends,
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right? We are not a competitor,
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right?
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So,
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Professor,
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I think this is a very good opportunity.
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Dean Parulian previously had planned for us to set
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a new campus actually in Bali,
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but we have still processed the
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permit to do that.
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But if Cinghua campus in Bali has already operated
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this year,
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it may be a good moment for us
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to discuss how we can contribute and collaborate with
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you in Bali.
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I think that's something that I can add to this discussion.
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I mean, the cooperation of this situation.
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And for study,
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I mean,
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about the future of Uli,
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yeah.
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I mean, actually,
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several years ago,
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Professor Tsumiching is working as a being.
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We will begin to discuss the three -plus -one program,
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which is that you and the graduate students go to
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Tsinghua for study there for one year,
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as well as study on IBLM.
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a degree program and then they come back to University
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of Indonesia to continue the last year's study and after
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they get a bachelor's degree they can come back to Tsinghua again
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for the defense because they already finished all the credit
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study so they can come there just for defense and
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I mean they can register as the master's students
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This will not discontinue
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their work in Indonesia.
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So I think this may be more convenient for students.
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As far as I know,
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our graduate schools are considering
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whether the students can reuse the credit they're getting
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from bachelor degree.
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to use again in the past degree.
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So if this can work,
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I think there is not any difficulty for the three past one.
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Because in the past,
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if they use for your degree,
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it cannot be used again for your degree.
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But I mean,
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I think last year I had double -checked with the teaching office.
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They said the graduate school may change this policy.
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So if it changes,
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I think there is no big problem for it.
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And about the problem you say,
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because they cannot get a...
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they have diploma.
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But in the third year,
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it doesn't matter because we can reach them after they
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graduate.
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But they don't need to come back again for the course study.
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They can continue to work.
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And they can come back just for the defense.
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So that may be very convenient for them.
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So I mean,
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the policy of reuse of the gradient has been passed by the graduate
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school, I think.
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but maybe we can finally finish the class one
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program we have discussed several years ago and actually
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this program is discussed from generation to generation
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So let's finish before the end of this year.
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yeah yeah yeah and the second point is about the I mean the
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I think it's possible.
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And we are very interested,
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if you can,
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to invite you to attend our international conference.
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And thank you so much.
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Because you have a special
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alliance with the conference,
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right?
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Yeah, yeah,
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yeah.
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morning of law.
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I mean,
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it is very comprehensive,
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a couple of different areas of law.
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We also have lots of international conferences in special
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areas.
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For example, business law,
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for example,
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IT law,
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IT and technology policy.
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