way forward from the ministry meeting

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You are here

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to help us.

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You do it away or you depart company.

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Exactly.

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And we invested on an infrastructure that you wanted to help

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us.

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To be young this way.

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I think we

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have discussed some of the news and it

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was a very heated discussion.

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This has been,

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I think,

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is long overdue.

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some of these things.

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I saw it.

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We realized it.

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And we also realized,

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because this is the best time to talk about that one as family,

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we also realized our weaknesses as mobsy,

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in particular science and technology.

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We have our weaknesses.

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So if we stood by what it means

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to not, we will not get to this level.

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But all set and ground,

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we realized our mistakes.

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and that we shall not allow the same mistakes to happen again.

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And I think we are taking that direction by engaging partners,

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not considering that terminology is the umbrella,

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so they have to control everything.

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That was the before,

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that is our thinking.

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But now that we realize that we cannot do things on our own,

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we need to involve our partners like EMIS and the IC community.

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So I think we should continue working on

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that momentum.

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to ensure that whatever that we are comfortable with,

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we have collaboration,

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we have partners,

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and we ensure that it calls for sustainability.

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Now,

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moving forward,

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we have,

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you know,

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prepositions on the table.

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We have to work both actively.

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And those ones,

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I think they are well captured by the Secretary of the Sky.

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So if we have any other thing that we can

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use to move forward,

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then this is the best time.

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The issue of,

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you know,

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wasting more time that is going to affect us because the impregnation of these

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families are not going to start.

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So we do need to forward ahead.

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We don't have to wait.

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So the request of the table,

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I suggest we work on it this week

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by next week to review.

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Before the end of next week,

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it needs to be submitted to the management.

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And the management is going to send

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to the future mobile for consideration.

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So it's not the science and technology that is going to make the solution to the

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future mobile.

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It's the management that's going to make the solution.

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But we are going to provide technical advice in collaboration with

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the English and ICTB.

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That's an advice,

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technical advice,

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to be submitted to the management to some of these.

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Exactly.

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So I thank you for your participation.

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And I think that the commitment is there for

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both sides.

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You know,

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we have one big objective.

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It's North Sea.

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We want to see North Sea forward.

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So what we went through,

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we don't want to see.

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So this is the first time now that it was.

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Just now we're going to work 10 minutes with what

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will be our next campaign.

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So on the part of

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work and then work activities,

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it's like I

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saw this from B1.

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In the inception report,

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one of the lines that was written is

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that...

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Whatever happens,

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I mean,

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at some point,

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I mean,

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we would leave whatever issue is surrounding the island and

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there to be resolved by Moksi.

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And then we would do the prison

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and we would just do what we do and ask

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at any point in time that Moksi decides to resolve

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issues.

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on Island Gambia can still continue.

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And I'm happy that today it

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still remains the same approach.

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Our work will still continue while we deal or

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resolve all these issues surrounding Island Gambia.

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So that is one thing I want to add.

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Best

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support as and when we need our

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advice or technical support from this area.

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That's to add to that one.

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In fact, again,

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work continues as we have started.

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And all the best in the process.

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Thank you.

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Yeah,

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so thank you very much.

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And I don't know whether you remember.

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Speaking of going where you can stop,

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I think one of the things that we agreed on was,

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you know,

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because...

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independent of whatever things we had,

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the plan that we had was to come up with a learning

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management system.

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The learning management system was supposed to be ADC and I

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think we are on that footsteps and that's a good progress that we have

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done so far.

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So, what I think,

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one of the things that I was,

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I talked to doctor when we met at,

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at,

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in,

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in, in the camera.

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Because you are talking.

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No,

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I'm not talking.

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Then come here.

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I'm listening from here.

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Yeah, so because one of the concerns that I had was we

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also need to,

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because you always have to work against your superiors position.

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And one of the things that they said was for us to consider

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island gambling.

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So we cannot just cross the property table.

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So from a technical perspective,

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what we need to do is we need to do all our offers to make sure that we've

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reviewed and we make sure that they are transparent as they can.

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That's also why we are pushing ourselves.

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We wanted to make it as clear as possible.

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With the permanent secretary,

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with the DPS,

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with anybody.

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And it's very important that we write very clear and we send the minister

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because she was the one there.

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that had that discussion.

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So we are on the same page so that we would not go of view that

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we have done something different from what was happening.

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And we are keeping all those open.

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But again,

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we are still working according to the plan.

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At least that's our recommendation.

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We are not the one implementing,

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but from a technical perspective,

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that is also one of our things.

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So I would suggest that we use this opportunity to write a very clear

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and explicit...

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recommendations based on the commitments that they have and based on the agreement and based on the understandings

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that we have from this and then we

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are able to believe any part that we take from here now they will

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understand basis

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Otherwise, if you continue with one platform without considering this

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one, we might end up having some issues with it.

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So at least from our technical perspective,

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we would want to advise that and maybe start

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working on the request as soon as possible.

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So the only thing that I want to talk about on the request is we need to consider because

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from our point,

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I've realized that maybe we don't have as much capacity.

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so we should also at least place a proposal for capacity

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if they are talking about only hand over but we need to think about this let's

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hit hand hand over let's put the apartment capacity visit so

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that if these people are sure that they were at least the people that are going to be exposed there to

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the elderly in and otherwise they are going to do it in the back state and we might not be

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able to do something so so i just these are just my i'm

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not talking about this i'm just saying i'm not saying that they are you know they are going to do that

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but at least we should consider think about this what are we going to do the request and one of

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them is we hand over definitely like um manu

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has said it is so much technical you don't just hand over the key and

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we don't know whether you don't open

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So we need to make sure that they show us around and that's one thing,

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but we should also have to consider even if it means paying them or something like

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this, we can include as far as the budget and then have that capacity and

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then please,

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you know.

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They are talking about the invoice.

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I know I just said it that way because just to make sure that we get a commitment from them and we need to

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really know why they are holding on to this.

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Because it's something that isn't working for them.

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But why is the reason that they can let go of it?

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But the moment we have this space,

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we are going to get more information around why and how,

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how, how,

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you know, how it's exactly working.

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Because from the onset of the now,

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all that we are getting is we are receiving it.

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We have not been at the development end.

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We don't know exactly what is going on in where they develop and who they are working with and from

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that discussion they are working with.

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that has never been.

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So I'm like,

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you know, it's normal.

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You know, you have other people that are working,

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you come and be the presentation,

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you be the front drawer.

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But then,

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you know, any time that we discuss,

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you are going to wonder that they are going to be there.

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But if they are the one that,

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if we give them this time and they go and discuss and they come back to them,

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we will be in a better position to know whether it's definitely the route that

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we can go to.

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If not, we will have a document like this.

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in the front of women and men.

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And this is the first time that all of us have to do it.

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ICT, planning,

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scan, and the management.

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This is the first time.

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This is the first time that you have done it.

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So it's very important that we make this a very big

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planning process that everything that we are doing from now is based on this,

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what we discussed here,

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and not from what has been.

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So if you do that,

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I think we'll progress it and not keep it going back to the starting

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process.

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So I just thought that I would...

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Mentioned that before we discussed it.

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By the time that we are looking at it,

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everyone is familiar.

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Thank you.

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Any order, Simon,

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before Maud goes to the session?

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Well,

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thank you very much for this particular meeting.

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I think the outputs have been very clear.

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That we would like to have a one -stop show in

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the technology,

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the communication technology problem.

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That is very clear.

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I think we heard it from the peers.

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that it is important we have this island platform,

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the one that we have currently integrated so

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that when we are visiting the site,

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we know we have this where everything

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is in.

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That is

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positive.

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The other positive thing is that we can integrate

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so that other portals can be accessible

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to everyone.

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Then I also want to stress the handover that

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I mentioned.

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It is a technical operation

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manual. That's how the system works,

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what are its technicalities and everything

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handled over.

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So whoever is going to operate will have some manual

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to refer to in the event of any...

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The challenge here

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is the two systems.

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the running costs,

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services.

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Assuming that they complete the handling.

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Exactly.

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So what to me is that we have two services.

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I mean too much meat.

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So I think at that point can be dealt with when the technical people don't know how to

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maneuver that.

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But what I want to say is that this

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is

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a long -term relationship.

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To decolonize is

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sometimes very difficult.

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You can see how people...

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They were clenching on them.

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But just as much as we would like to have the

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system, we should be diplomatic not

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to...

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Because these guys can be something.

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Can be messy sometimes.

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so that we still maintain that kind of relationship relationship

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yeah that's an event that maybe something happens yeah we can call

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them

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I think one gap that I've identified

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during the discussion is communication barrier.

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You know,

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being it from Fission Mobile and State,

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MOPSI and all the entities that are involved in this.

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And then we should not also drag that communication barrier into our

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current activities.

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We're partnering with EMEs,

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partnering with LM and other people that will come into the future.

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Let us always be transparent with whatever that has to do with the platform.

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We communicate in advance and see how a way forward can be put in place

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for everybody to understand what is happening,

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please.

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I think this will be very important for us to put it into consideration in whatever

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that we want to do.

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and also maybe just to clear on the content that we

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are talking about is especially the online version it was

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not done in silence it was the offline version

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as well it was not done in silence it was in connection with the

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science and technology content there though they own the platform but the content

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in that platform belongs to science and technology that's what i was talking about the

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intellectual property that's what they were talking about obviously it's talking about the content

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So the content,

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purely,

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it doesn't belong to that.

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It belongs to science and technology,

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which is mostly.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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The other island would be,

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this one would be super safe and good.

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That is very,

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very important.

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Hence,

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we will also come back here.

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The island will left and we will be here.

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Because I was there.

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Well, I don't have to tell you,

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but I was there with the Christian mobile.

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We started it.

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I was the first one that tested the app.

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It was definitely different at that time.

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We went online.

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We went to media.

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It was all over.

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And people were using it.

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And it was very nice.

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Because these things happen.

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and then you have the database.

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It's just kind of a database linked to the app and it was very nice.

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I installed it on my laptop and anyway it was working fine and at

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that time it was very good.

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Probably there were some technical issues with regards to it.

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and management and then technical issues that probably some people have

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been like those are some things but the platform was very good at the time and it was

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service force so now that the idea of this category

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is we don't want to make it to service and my reason is probably because I definitely would

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love to make it and post it and then your city

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would now focus on managing the industry and all that and the elements will

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be now left on the island because the island's content

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you need to post it and then leave it on it and then the island will continue you

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just use your system now you make some humanity into the family or whatever and

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then we have both working simultaneously and working perfect that this can be impossible

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that in the mind wasn't what's perfect i don't know the image of this hour they have

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and the fire traffic system and all that

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You know,

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these elements or this person have anything far better than

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this. She is very familiar.

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I think we are already in line with that.

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That is exactly what we are thinking.

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Because Island Gambia did have a group of fighters.

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So it doesn't matter if the system

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continues working.

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So again,

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what I would add to

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that is that the Island Gambia,

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for now,

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you can...

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Focus will lead to,

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let's say,

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the upper,

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higher,

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well,

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secondary.

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Because most of the content there is for the secondary education.

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I mean, at the first grade level,

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grade 10.

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So,

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whatever

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it is.

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So, in the whole discussion,

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I mean,

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I'm not saying we are discarding it or,

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I mean, none of that.

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My only concern is that.

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Bring it.

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Here, let's work with it.

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It cannot focus on the secondary education,

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while this one is focusing on the foundational basic

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education.

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So that at

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the end of the day,

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whilst you are also bringing systems together,

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you also have to understand when it comes to resource

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management.

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when it comes to traffic management.

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All these,

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there are other things.

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So,

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again,

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I like Amya,

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yes, it should come into the domain of

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MOPSI.

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MOPSI now will have its own strategic plan or have

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to manage all these integrations together.

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That is all.

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That is a foundational,

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I mean,

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thing.

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I keep talking about that.

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Okay, thank you very much.

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Mr.

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Yaga, you come down.

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All right,

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thank you very much.

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I think it's going along with the story.

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Yeah.

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And I think some of the couple of points.

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Try

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to protect the partnership.

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Try to protect them.

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Don't make them feel that they are being elbowed out.

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Don't create that because...

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They were with us when nobody was with us.

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So if we have some other people with us,

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we shouldn't help them out.

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All right?

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So they'll be assured that the service they have provided

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is good and we still need support.

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It can come in different forms.

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All right.

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The other point is documentation.

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Because when it's

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financial for us,

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the gentleman who was certified,

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Victor.

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Victor seems to be referring

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to a lot of documents,

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a lot of contractual agreements saying this is not existing,

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this is there.

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And it's his word against

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our word.

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And those who were with

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him then are no more here.

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And probably they must have agreed to something that is haunting us now.

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They might not have agreed to anything.

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Because the way he is putting it,

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it's as if, you know,

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from Moxie's side...

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You see,

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I was part of it,

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not in the depot,

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but side by,

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because I was providing funding from UNICEF.

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I was providing the funding.

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And some of those things,

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like the offline thing,

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the online thing,

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come on.

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Yes.

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So, but it's like if it had been documented adequately,

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probably this sort of push and put may not come.

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All right.

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So I think my advice to you is be mindful of that.

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Whatever small things you are doing with them,

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make sure it is adequately documented so that...

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we didn't get into this type of thing because transition can't happen but

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if documents are available we can easily refer to that so I think

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that's very important and the request that we

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agree that should go to them work on it share

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it for internal reading before it goes to

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Yes, to them.

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So I think that will also be there.

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So include in that way how the sustainability of

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that system is going to be like.

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So that when they transfer,

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how do you see sustainability?

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Give them the opportunity in the right

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of that they could come at points.

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But if you give them no opportunity that they can come.

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And they will give you,

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as my dad said,

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a house without,

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a key that does not open the house.

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Yes,

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so I think,

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yes,

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very good.

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Thank you very good for your time.

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Let's keep it moving.

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It must be enthusiastic about what we are doing and then we will get the

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