Session 2
Jul 31, 2026 00:14
· 5:07
· English
· Whisper Turbo
· 2 Speakers
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Hey.
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Hello.
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Speaker 2 (Session 2)
Hey Mel,
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how are you going?
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Speaker 1 (Session 2)
Oh,
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I'm okay.
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How are you?
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Not too bad,
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not too bad for the time of day.
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I feel like I started the session last time the same way.
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Yeah.
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I'm like,
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okay, because it just sort of dropped my memory,
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which is so funny.
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So last time we were talking about the situation that
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you're trying to navigate at work.
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Yes.
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How is that going for you now?
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I've actually been reflecting on a few things that I said in that session.
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And I was thinking about how,
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I think there was an instance where I said,
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like,
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I think I used the words they're not on my level.
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And I think it was really not nice to say.
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And I didn't mean it in a way where...
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where, or maybe I was thinking that,
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I didn't mean it to say that in a way that I'm in a
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higher, like I'm more intellectual or whatever it is.
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No, that's,
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interestingly,
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that's not how I took that.
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And I just want to reassure you that these sessions are not about,
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you know,
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how you're portraying yourself or themselves or anything.
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There's no judgment there at all.
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And this is for you to process the whole situation.
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And I love the fact that you're self -reflective.
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That's really encouraging.
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So don't worry so much about that. I mean, you're obviously...
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coming from a different background.
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So this is,
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and that's how I talk when you said they're not at my level.
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Yeah.
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I took it from,
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they're not coming from my perspective.
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Yes.
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I'm sorry if I misunderstood you,
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but that's how I interpret it.
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Speaker 1 (Session 2)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, that's good.
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I think it was just me more thinking,
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oh, no, I hope I haven't come across in that way to make it sound as
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though like I'm belittling someone or belittling them.
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It's not at all in the case like that.
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It's just, it is a completely different perspective.
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Yeah.
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Even if you did.
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If that was your intention,
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there's no judgment here anyway.
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Yeah,
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yeah. No,
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it definitely wasn't.
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But what's happened since is that,
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so I mentioned to you,
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like, this manager sort of,
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I feel, is my manager is a bit sort of protective of her.
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She's going to call her up on her behaviours and all of this kind of stuff.
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And I've had her staff members come to me because they felt safe with me.
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Since then,
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I've actually had another staff member that,
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I'm just trying to think what day was she messaged me.
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I had a message.
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I can't remember,
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but it was sometime during the week,
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and it was after hours,
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so not in business hours,
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because her working hours are late,
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she needs to stay with the youth in the refuge,
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and she works like,
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you know, it could be like eight till whatever,
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at night time,
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so she works sort of after hours and she works weekends.
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So she messaged me saying,
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or emailed me saying,
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it was lovely to meet you.
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I would like to book a conversation with you.
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Like, can we please have a meeting?
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I would like it to remain confidential.
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You know, weekends work best
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for her.
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And I said,
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yeah, of course we can do that.
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And she said that I could delete the calendar
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invite afterwards,
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which made me think,
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wow, okay,
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it must be really serious if she's...
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thinking in the way by not leaving any trail behind.
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That's where my thought is.
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So it's obviously providing something in her,
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like she's needed to get this out,
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which is why she's contacted me there.
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But she's that sort of scared.
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in a way that she's telling me to delete it afterwards.
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So I basically emailed her back or messaged her back saying,
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of course, you know,
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I'll meet up with you.
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You know,
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how about, like,
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obviously I'm going to do a workshop.
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Let's try to do this on Sunday at,
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like, 10 o 'clock or whatever,
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so tomorrow, basically.
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So I don't work these hours,
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but obviously I go out of my way because I want to make sure that they're okay.
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And I know that's probably going out of my,
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I mean, it is going out of my boundaries at work.
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Absolutely is.
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But the problem is...
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I feel like,
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and I've always said this to my manager,
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I need to be flexible to meet these people where they are because they don't work,
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some of them don't work working hours.
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So if I need to like,
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you know, if I'm dozing off here or there,
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but they're making up for the hours on the weekends to do that,
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do you know what I mean?
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Or whatever it is,
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even if I'm doing my full hours or whatever,
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but also doing this other stuff.
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And the thing is I have to do it in a sense where...
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You know, I might tell my manager after.
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We'll see what happens after this conversation,
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what this lady wants to tell me and stuff like that.
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But I guess the putting me telling you that is that now I've actually had this other staff member
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come to me who doesn't report to me,
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who knows that she wants to tell me something that obviously sounds serious.
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Okay.
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And then I'm thinking in my head,
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I'm going to have to go now back to my manager,
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probably afterwards.
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Again, we'll see what she brings up.
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If she wants me to say something,
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if she wants me to action something,
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I will absolutely do it.
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I'm going to be there for her so I can surely...
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You know, she can have someone listen to her,
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which is what she hasn't been having now.
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She doesn't have that now.
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She has a manager who's quite condescending,
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who uses those sort of belittling words
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and all that kind of stuff.
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