Vicki & Abi Interview

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I'm just going to say congratulations on the candidate for Ivy School,

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that's amazing.

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What's your ambition for it?

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What's our vision for IB?

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That our children are developed as individuals,

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they're developed as learners,

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they still have a high academic successors,

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but they need to access the world when they leave us.

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But yeah,

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they become true bloating citizens and they're there to make the world

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a better place.

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And you can see that in how you're designing the space.

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And when I was talking to Anna,

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she was saying,

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I mean,

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you don't really need to explicitly say it because everything's so well thought through and

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purposefully.

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We've talked about sports and fun and arts and well-being.

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And I think what sets it apart,

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certainly from other schools at IPT,

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is that you really are putting the learners first with the,

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not splash back,

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with the wet play.

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Is that something we can share,

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the wet play or not?

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Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, absolutely.

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Because we were looking for a secret today.

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Is that something that we can?

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S… Speaker 1 (Vicki & Abi Interview)

Yeah, absolutely,

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absolutely.

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Yeah, the wet play is really lovely.

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And it's really unique.

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And having been on that journey with the designers to actually help them to understand

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it's about creative play and it's about discovery and it's about inquiry.

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But I think what's been...

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lovely as well is it's not just the work play in our primary playgrounds

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we've actually carried on that theme of discovery so a perfect example would

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be road signs we're having obviously a bike track lots of schools have boat tracks and lots of

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schools have road signs we've asked for our road signs to be blank

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So we've said roadsides come in triangles,

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hexagons and circles.

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So that's the shape of roadside.

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Did you all know that all those three shapes mean something different?

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You might have covered it in your green bus code.

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So the three shapes mean something,

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but not many people know that because they just look at the message within it.

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Also,

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children need to learn what that message is.

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So we've asked them all to be blank so that the children come along and

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where the zebra crossing or the pelican crossing is on our road,

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maybe there is,

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you know, a little bit of a...

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It's a continent between two children.

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And they actually talk about,

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I'm crossing the road and I'm on my bike.

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We need a road sign here.

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What do we need?

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Is it a triangle,

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a circle, or a hexagon?

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And then they design it.

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Because it's no good at just saying stop.

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Because these are international students.

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So actually it might need to say stop.

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There might need to be a symbol for unknown readers.

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But the children create it.

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So that creative play that happens from building dams becomes

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creative play.

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and that then goes up into our older children in our amphitheatre

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where the creative play is running a discussion and actually running

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that and what does it look like or creating a performance or making a band but

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every space grows with purpose through every single area

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of our school and again that's a true IB school we're not telling the children

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we're supporting to help them to go on that learning journey with us.

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S… Speaker 2 (Vicki & Abi Interview)

And that, the road signs is a great example of a different way of communication.

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So my son's four,

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he can't read yet,

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but he can tell me if it's a no -smoking sign or you've got to wear your hat outside.

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So I love that as an additive layer of communication.

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Absolutely.

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So my children,

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or me, I can write the word stop in Arabic.

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It's one of the only words I can write.

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Why?

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Because the roadside of Arabic isn't here.

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So I can write that one word before I...

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I mean, I don't actually know what it is in Arabic,

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that word, to say it.

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But I can write it because it's real,

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it's in the environment.

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And I've needed to.

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So again, it's using all of that purposeful learning.

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I think...

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you know the other thing that makes us special this is probably what makes us special everything goes

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back to our vision every decision we make everything goes back to that vision those

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three vision parts of our vision statement about learning living and leading

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about courage about purpose and about compassion that's

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that's every every tiny decision goes back that even the

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taps washing your hands where's the learn with purpose there you know you

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just asked about well -being earlier the well -being well what does living with compassion

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look like?

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What's it feel like?

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What's it sound like?

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And it's different at different ages.

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It's different between different people.

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So we go back to it all the time.

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And then the learning with,

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the living, leading with courage,

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you know, are we as leaders brave?

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But are our children brave to lead with courage?

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Are they bystanders?

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No,

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I hope not.

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I hope they aren't bystanders because they're living and they're leading themselves

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with courage.

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at whatever kind of age they're doing.

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And that really links nicely to the 2017 World Vision.

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I love the country,

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future focus,

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future leaders.

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What do you think are going to be some of the biggest challenges within the generation of

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learners coming to Ashes?

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S… Speaker 2 (Vicki & Abi Interview)

Oh,

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the biggest...

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Balance in life,

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yeah,

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balance,

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making sure they've got balance,

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but as an Ivy school,

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that's something that's built in part and parcel.

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Being principled,

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being really principled when something's easy.

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I mean, you've only got to look at the use of AI for older students,

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and actually when they do and don't use it,

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when they should and shouldn't,

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when they can and can't,

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and actually being principled enough to actually do what's right.

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that they know is right inside.

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So I think,

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yeah, balance,

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principle.

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I think universities,

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not accepting just your A -star students,

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needing something more.

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So that's a bit of a difference because I think lots of parents are

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so geared towards...

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It's about A stars,

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it's about your high marks,

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it's about your 100 % but actually that's not enough anymore and

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I suppose that goes back to principle and balance as well.

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So you know,

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I want my child to go to university.

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Three A stars isn't enough anymore,

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because it's got to be the stuff that goes round it.

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But again,

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that's why being in an IB school is so perfect,

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Richard, because being in an IB school,

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the stuff that goes round it is part and parcel of the provision that you get.

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So that's really important.

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And lots of UK schools put it in.

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They do,

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in fairness, they do the EPQs,

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they do the projects,

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they do, because they know they need to,

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to get the children where they need to be,

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not just at uni,

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but in life.

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It's kind of being a good person.

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S… Speaker 2 (Vicki & Abi Interview)

You've talked a lot,

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my last question,

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about AI technology and it going hand in hand with still the human

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-centered focus.

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What's Ashmount's vision on screen time and using tablets

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and lots of things?

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Oh, okay, so we see very much in the young years as a tool,

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something that you use as a tool to enhance.

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So the children will have access to go and use something when it's the right thing,

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they'll use it.

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As they get older,

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they need to develop those skills.

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They need to develop those skills knowing it's a tool and having that principled

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and balanced approach to it.

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So, yeah,

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not so much in the younger years.

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If you find an ant and you're trying to work out whether it's an ant or a spider and you've got to

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count its legs,

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what better thing to do than pick up an iPad and use this magnifier on it?

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That's incredible.

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So give the child the ability to do that.

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But if your child's wanting to hear the teacher,

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read the story,

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make sure that's the teacher,

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not the technology.

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But at secondary,

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actually, when they're doing that research,

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but then they've got to balance the principle.

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They've got to learn how to do it and not go straight into AI.

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because that's where they need the values of all the technology.

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S… Speaker 2 (Vicki & Abi Interview)

Thank you so much.

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You're so inspirational.

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