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P… PO (20260331-122704)

All right, today is March 31st, it's Tuesday, 12-27.

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First question, what do you think CMU should do

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that would make your college experience better?

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

For, like, an overall thing, I think give more,

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

well, not give more options, because they do have a lot of options

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and, like, stuff that you can help,

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

but, like, make sure that kids know those options, you know?

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

So awareness, you'd say.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, make the students aware of, like, the needs,

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

or not the needs, but the, you know, what am I trying to think of here?

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

The things that CMU has to offer, I should say.

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Okay, yeah.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Because I know a lot of kids don't know, like,

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even, like, the counseling center or stuff like.

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Why would you say that?

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

You think maybe because there isn't really enough awareness?

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yeah, yeah, because, I mean, I know it's always empty in a lot of places.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Like, even, like, the library, kids don't, like,

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

some kids didn't even know where it was at.

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Yeah, okay.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Like, stuff like that.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

You think that would help you?

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yeah?

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yeah.

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Okay, okay, cool.

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Anything else or just?

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Nothing I can think of.

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Okay, all right.

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Moving on, thinking back to, before you came to CMU,

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

what was the main reason you decided to come here?

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

So, I came here because I had a lot of teachers, like, that went to CMU.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

And they were like, yeah, so this used to be, like, the teaching school.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Like, if you want to be a teacher, you're going to Central, no matter what.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

But, and my technology teacher in high school,

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

she was the one that basically got me to go to CMU.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Her name was Ms. Begita.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

And she really helped me settle down with the CMU decision.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

And, yeah, she told me it was great living here for her four years,

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I believe she went here.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

So, that was the big reason.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Did you apply to any other schools?

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I did.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I applied to Grand Valley, and then I applied to, like, the, like, Mott, U of M, Flint.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I applied to, what was the other one?

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

It was, was it Eastern?

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I think it was Eastern.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Or Western.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

It was Western.

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Oh, boy.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yeah.

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Were you admitted into those schools?

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I was, I was.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I know Grand Valley for sure.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

And then U of M, Flint, you automatically, I think it's a, it's a community college, so.

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And then Western, I believe so.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

So, main reason you'd say you chose seeing you over those schools was your teachers?

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yes.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Was my teachers.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

And knowing that this is, that it was at least a primary, like, if you wanted to become a teacher,

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you would go here.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

You know, like, it's high up in that level.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

All right.

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

All right.

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Now, moving on.

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Tell me about your typical week.

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

You know, how many classes do you have this semester?

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

If you work, how many hours a week you need to work?

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Kind of, like, around there.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

So, school will look like Monday.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

So, Monday, I have two classes.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I have one at 11 and then one at 2.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

And then that's the same with Wednesday.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

And then Tuesday, Thursday, I have one at, I have a class at 10.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

And then I have one at 12.30 and then I have one at 2.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

So, five classes.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yep.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Five classes total.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

And then I have work.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Work, I normally work on the weekends.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I work at L. Kelly's.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Normally, weekend shifts, like, from 5 to 9 or from 6 to 9.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Sometimes, I'll work weekdays, like, if they just need some help.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Like, sometimes, I'll work 12 to 1 or something like that, whatever I'm free.

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Okay.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

What else did I need to answer there?

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

How many hours would you say you'd work a week then?

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Just a typical week.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Like, probably, I mean, anywhere from, like, I mean, I only work one to two days, so about

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

8 or 10, 8 to 10.

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

8 to 10, nice.

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

So, what about your social life in that week?

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Well, I go and play basketball at the SAC a lot.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I go, I mean, I go hang out places.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I go to the bars.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I go to, what's some other things.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

You know, we'll go out to eat.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I mean, we'll walk around dorms.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I know a lot of people here, so.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I mean, I'll invite people up, too, and they'll meet everyone and hang out with us.

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Do you feel like you have enough time to socialize?

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I definitely do.

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Okay, that's good.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

That's good.

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

What about in terms of self-care?

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Do you feel like...

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

do you have enough time for that um sometimes um i feel like you know i do have a busy schedule

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

in a sense um but i do find time for myself and you kind of need to as a college student

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

um i feel i feel like recently for sure that i have gotten better with my self-care and being

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

able to focus on myself a little bit that's good that's good that's really good um

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

all right so uh we'll move on um given your weekly activities how do you feel about your typical week

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

like stress maybe you know comfortable going through the motions um as of recently i feel

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

like it's going going good um i know a couple weeks months ago i wasn't doing so well and it was like

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

very stressful um but it was mostly because of like the schoolwork that i needed to get caught up

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and not being able to go to some classes because of some other things but oh in all i say that i'm

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doing much better now okay okay that's good that's good um how do you you know when you do feel stress

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

how do you you know kind of tackle that feeling would you say um well i've been going on a lot

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

of walks um i do i i like listening to music that clears my head um or i'll just go talk to people

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

you know i have great friends and i can go talk to them about anything if i if i'm in trouble they

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can go help me out or they get i don't even have to tell them i can just say like hey like can we go

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do something they'll go do it and then we don't talk about it so clears my head in a way okay that's

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

so is there anything in particular maybe that you feel that's causing you to have too much stress

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

going on up here would you say maybe or maybe external um well i mean my medication and stuff

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

for my anxiety but that's more of just like a thing that happens um and then i mean it's not so

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much school work but i mean school work's always going to be stressful i mean who likes to do it

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

anyways but um yeah i guess those would be the two factors and you know like trying to keep up with

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

family and friends and stuff like that okay all right that's good all right okay so i'm gonna have

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you fill out now this um this sheet um talking about how much stress you feel in different parts

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

you're like sick i mean if there's one you don't want to answer to you don't have to you don't

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have to put down anything i got you you want to say yes okay perfect thank you so much um all right

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

so you put down a moderate amount for paying for college kind of you know kind of give me an example

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

of that okay well so i know that i'm gonna have to pay for all this and i had i do have loans to

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come here but i know i'm gonna have to eventually pay those off and with the teacher salary i know

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

it's gonna be kind of hard and it's gonna i'm gonna have to wait a while for it so that's my

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really only concern you know and like i mean i'm working down to get some money to pay for gas and

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stuff like that um because i'm not i mean my board my board like living here my room board it's

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paid through my uh my yeah through my loan and next year i'm gonna have to pay like out of pocket

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basically so even next year you know that's the part where maybe i'll get in a little bit of trouble

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but i think that i'll just get more shifts and i'll be fine okay um so you're saying that you

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for the most part you have a plan for yes yes all right that's good that's good um you also put

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down a moderate amount for um family kind of go into that um so my family my dad and mom are split

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up and i do not no longer talk to my mom um she has had some issues in the past i'm gonna say what

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but she's had some issues

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she's had some issues

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

that's fine she's had some issues in the past and um i have uh my dad and my stepmom and then

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

uh my sister lives with my dad full-time too my brother's down in alabama he just joined the

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national guard um he is he's been struggling a lot with mental health issues and stuff like that

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he'll give me a call every two weeks or so and so that's that's where my worry comes from is my mom

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my brother but other than that like and my sister just had uh she got an mri and her shoulders all

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messed up so she won't be able to play softball so i kind of feel upset for her but um the reason

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why i did put more is because i know that if they need me they will contact me and i know if i need

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

them i can contact them anytime i want um there's no hard feelings for any of them it's just something

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

i gotta worry about them because they're my family all right all right understood understood um so how

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do you kind of go about that then you know just that assurance that you know they'll need you if

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

you yeah yes so um my so my little sister she is a junior in high school she was never a talkative

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person growing up and i feel like whenever i go home the person she talks to most is me okay and

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having that feeling that like she's finally coming out of her shell you know and i'm the person she

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comes to talk to i know that if she really needs something she'll come talk to me that's good um

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and my brother even too right like he's called me a couple times saying that like i'm the only guy

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that he can call and i'll like for sure answer or that i'm the only person there for him still

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yeah and then my mom um she texts me every now and then um you know we still have a harder

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relationship but i always still go see her on holidays i always talk to her i always say i love you

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i always um she's still my mom you know and she i mean she no one's going to be the greatest mother

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ever but but you know she's she's still my mom so okay that's good that's great all right so

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

we're gonna move on from that a little bit and kind of direct towards like again with your like

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weekly overall you say you feel you balance your weekly activities pretty well yes yes i do yes

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okay all right because i mean most of these that you have on here yeah much you know little to no

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stress at all so that that's really good okay all right um so on in terms of like like your

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perspective what would you say on these ones that you said that you know you had a moderate amount

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would you say it needs to like maybe change in those areas to make the life your life would you say

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

less stressful okay um well maybe paying for college maybe just what would make it less stressful

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

is more i mean i mean i can be picky with this and just say give me more work hours so i have more

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money you know or i could be like uh maybe get a financial advisor to help me through what i can pay

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for as of right now and what i can't um i'm not too stressed out about it just because i know a lot

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of people um they go through college and they they don't have the money at all yeah either and

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they get through it so that's what kind of gets me like i'm okay with it um family wise um i know

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like contacting them more would definitely you know just make me feel better about it um and i do

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contact all of them um but still i can text my dad every every week um brother every two weeks

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

maybe sister every month um but yeah all right good good good okay um so we're gonna turn our

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

attention to another topic now um that's kind of related but um we're gonna talk about drinking

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alcohol among college students so looking back how would you compare student drinking at your high

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

school to drinking among students here at cmu okay so my um can i go like through like a backstory here

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

do you want me just to answer the question you can do you can do the backstory i mean also think

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about like different groups like you know cliques okay people like um so i know that i got

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

introduced to alcohol my freshman year or my freshman year of high school um i was on the football team

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

at the time and i was really good friends with some seniors and i was really good friends with the

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sophomore at the time who knew the seniors and we would go hang out with the seniors and they

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introduced me to it um it was like it was a very very small group of people okay um but they were

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on football teams sports teams stuff like that they were very popular kids okay um i know my when it got

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to my

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Senior year, it got like, you know, there were plenty of kids who were drinking alcohol, like way more freshmen drinking alcohol.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

There was way more, you know, just like a four-year difference is a huge different thing.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Compared to now, you know, I feel like because we can go to bars and because there's like fake IDs and stuff,

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that even those kids from high school now have those fake IDs and they get into bars here.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yes. So I think it's changed a little bit getting into college, but I feel like the amount that you drink in high school is way less than you do in college.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

And the amount and more days.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

So how often would you say that they drink maybe in high school as compared to like college?

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Well, I think Friday through, I mean, Friday, Saturday, they would drink, I mean.

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Every weekend, would you say?

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yeah, every weekend.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

In high school, anyways.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

In college, you know, there's some, I wouldn't say, I mean, you got like Tuesdays here, they got bar deals, they got Thursdays, Fridays, Saturdays.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I mean, they got deals all week, I mean, Wednesday even.

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So I feel like there's more opportunities to drink and people with those fake IDs can get in really anywhere because they don't care about it here.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yeah.

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So that's kind of where.

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S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

So how much would you say that in high school would they drink?

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Would they drink to like blackout, would you say?

16:34

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yeah, yeah.

16:34

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Oh, yeah.

16:35

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

No, they'd, I mean, all of them too.

16:37

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Like, no matter if it was a big group or small group, they'd all blackout.

16:42

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

So was this mainly the primary, like popular group or like, was this like, you know, other people too?

16:47

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

No, this was like, well, there were other people, but I mean, I didn't firsthand see them, you know.

16:54

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I knew they were there, but like, the, so my freshman year, they used to be different groups.

17:02

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

And then when I got to my senior year, there was one big group.

17:04

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

17:04

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Um, and it wasn't just like the most popular kids were doing it.

17:08

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

It was like almost everyone.

17:11

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yeah.

17:11

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

17:11

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Um, in high school, I should say.

17:13

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yes.

17:13

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

17:14

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

All right.

17:15

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Um, looking at drug use, was there drug use at your high school?

17:19

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Um, well, marijuana.

17:21

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yes.

17:21

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yes.

17:22

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Um, I don't think any other things.

17:25

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Um, well, I mean, this also could count as like vape, by the way.

17:28

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Oh, okay.

17:29

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Nicotine.

17:29

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Oh, yeah.

17:29

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yeah.

17:30

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Nicotine.

17:30

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yes.

17:31

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Nicotine.

17:31

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Uh, well, vaping, yeah.

17:34

S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)

Uh, Zins.

17:35

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yup.

17:35

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Um, there, there was marijuana.

17:40

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Uh.

17:40

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

17:41

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

So nothing like too crazy?

17:43

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

No, no, no.

17:43

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Nothing.

17:43

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

No, no, no.

17:44

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Um, did certain crowds maybe use more drugs?

17:48

S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

17:48

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yes?

17:49

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yeah.

17:49

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

There was a, I remember a certain, certain group of kids that would always do it.

17:53

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Like, they'd do it in the bathroom.

17:55

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

At school?

17:55

S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)

At school, yeah.

17:56

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

17:56

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

And, I mean, they'd do it with, this is where it goes back to like the freshmen now.

18:01

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Like, they would do it with the seniors.

18:03

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I'm like, no one in my freshman class would have done that with seniors there, so.

18:09

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

18:10

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

And, um, so, um, how often do you think that they use these drugs, you know, these group

18:17

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

kids?

18:17

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Oh, it was, I mean, it was every day.

18:18

S… Speaker 4 (20260331-122704)

Oh, God.

18:19

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

18:19

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yeah.

18:20

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

18:20

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

It was every day.

18:21

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

They, I mean, I mean, if they were doing it in school, it had to be every day, you

18:27

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

know?

18:27

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

18:27

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Like, why bring you to school if you weren't addicted to it that much?

18:30

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

18:31

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Um, do you think there was a problem at your high school?

18:34

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I do think there was a problem at our high school.

18:36

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

And, I mean, the, I mean, even like the teachers and, uh, like, faculty knew that there was

18:41

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

a problem.

18:42

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Like, they would go into bathrooms all the time, like assistant principals, and, um, they'd

18:47

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

catch people doing shit, and then they, or stuff, sorry.

18:50

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Um, they'd catch people, and, okay.

18:52

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

You're okay.

18:52

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Um, they'd catch people doing stuff, and they, uh, I know a couple kids got, not kicked

18:59

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

off the football team, but they got suspended for a couple games, and then I know, uh, there

19:04

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

were other kids who got suspended for, I think, a week, and then, uh, they got in-school suspensions,

19:09

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

too.

19:10

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

19:10

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

19:11

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Um, do you think that there's a reason, maybe, that those, like, say the kids that partied

19:17

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

the most, like, throughout high school, you know, maybe partied, like, was there, you

19:22

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

know, an underlying reason, maybe, you think, or just to fit in?

19:24

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I just think, like, peer pressure, too.

19:27

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

You know, like, oh, this kid's doing it, why wouldn't I?

19:29

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yeah.

19:30

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Okay, just to fit in.

19:31

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

19:31

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yeah, and I know a lot of kids that did that, and that's why they're, they ended up with

19:35

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

doing this stuff later on.

19:37

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay, okay.

19:39

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Um, now we're gonna move on here, and, um, some people, now talking about college, some

19:46

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

people that, um, work with college students talk about an increase in binge drinking.

19:51

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

19:51

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Have you heard the term binge drinking?

19:52

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yes, yes, yes.

19:52

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yes?

19:53

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

19:54

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Um, what does binge drinking mean to you, would you say?

19:56

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Um, like, having a certain amount of-

20:00

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

of drinks in a sitting i guess um like a certain amount i don't know what the amount is but i know

20:05

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

it's like so the official bridge drinking definition is it's four drinks for a female

20:10

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

and five drinks for a man okay in a single sitting okay okay so like a single sitting meaning like

20:16

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

like i just a single night like a night okay okay okay um um what do you think about this

20:25

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

official definition um well i feel like uh i think that more people binge drink than they

20:33

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

actually think and i i'm sure everyone has heard of it but i don't think they actually know what

20:38

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

the definition of it is and i feel like a lot more people binge drink here than they actually know

20:44

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

okay um yeah um from your point of view maybe is it you think there could be a better label to

20:51

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

binge drinking um i maybe over drinking maybe like something like that you know because like

21:00

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

you think of like binge watching right you're sitting down and watching tv for a long time

21:05

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

and so that's kind of what i think is it's like over drinking to a point okay um now going into the

21:15

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

personal side how often do you think you engage in binge drinking um not too often anymore i know i

21:24

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

used to a lot um i've kind of cut back on it because of personal reasons um i i think that i did it

21:33

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

maybe once a week maybe maybe once every two weeks um but back in my freshman year it was two

21:44

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

three days a week okay and it was yeah okay um would you and your friends here at cmu be considered

21:51

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

binge drinkers yes yes okay um i know a couple people that you know why would you say just because

21:57

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

um well i mean i've hung out with them and i've seen them do it and even like not even college

22:03

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

friends you know like at home friends that come up here they 100% do it too okay okay and uh when

22:09

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

your friends you and your friends i know you said you don't do it as much anymore but you know how

22:15

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

many drinks um do you and them have maybe before you know you go out to a party or the ball it could

22:24

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

be i mean it could be any number it depends on how much time we're doing it in um let's say i mean

22:30

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

you know pre-game if that's the word we want to use here um if we have something to do at

22:38

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

9 30 10 o'clock and we get somewhere at five or six i mean there'll be 10 drinks per person down

22:47

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

okay you know and depending on what those drinks are okay um sometimes it's less depending on the

22:53

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

person if they want to if they don't want it they just want to you know be included and do it

22:58

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

and drink maybe they'll drink three or four and then they'll go out and you know yeah so you'd

23:04

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

like obviously it probably difference from when yeah yeah yeah okay all right perfect um how often

23:13

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

i know you said you don't do a lot but do you binge drink during a typical week maybe during a

23:18

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

typical month um typical week i mean it used to be once but i'm trying to cut down on it so i'm

23:25

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

trying to say like i'm trying to get to maybe once a month okay it used to be i mean how many

23:31

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

weeks are in a month um like yeah so probably three four or five like those how many days um

23:38

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

that's good that's good um when you drink where do you usually drink um i mean it can be any it can be

23:48

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

anywhere from uh an apartment to a bar to a dorm to uh anything of that matter okay okay um is there

24:00

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

a particular reason why you go there um you know it's just like it's comfortable you know it's not

24:06

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

like i'm doing it in front of people i don't know okay so i won't like it's a friend in front of them

24:11

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

yeah yeah um because you know embarrassment's a thing too when you go out and drink so i'll i've

24:17

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

never gone out to a bar and gotten 10 drinks at a bar because i don't feel too comfortable doing it

24:24

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

there but okay okay that's good um moving on uh where would you say you get the money to pay for

24:35

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

your alcohol you know could this be your job like you said or your parents maybe savings it would be

24:42

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

it would be my job it would be my job okay okay um that's good that's good from your perspective

24:50

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

what are the reasons why some other college students spins drink

24:56

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

um can you say can you repeat the question sorry so like looking

24:59

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

you

24:59

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

you

24:59

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

you

24:59

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

you

24:59

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

you

24:59

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

you

24:59

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

you

25:00

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

You know, from your point of view and looking at other college students, why would you say that?

25:05

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Like, what is their reasoning behind binge drinking?

25:10

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

So you can look at it different ways and say it can be for fitting in or it could just be for having fun.

25:17

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Or it could just be for, you know, you like getting drunk or you or you actually have an issue where you need to do it because you don't want to.

25:27

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

You want to forget something or, you know, you don't want to remember the day or something like that.

25:33

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

You know, that's just like mental issues.

25:35

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

For me, I would say it was more of just like, you know, I'm going out and having fun.

25:40

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I'm a college student.

25:43

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

It's not so much of like I want to do it to black out and say that I blacked out.

25:48

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

You know, it's not fun to do that.

25:51

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yes.

25:52

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

25:53

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

I'm going to have you fill out another sheet here.

25:56

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

25:59

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

There's questions on there you don't like answering.

26:02

S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)

You don't have to.

26:15

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Would you like a beverage or anything by chance?

26:18

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

No, thank you.

26:18

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

26:20

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I feel more attractive.

26:37

S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)

It makes you feel less attractive.

27:04

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

There you go.

27:05

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

All right.

27:09

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

So for to feel the physical effects you put down most of the time, kind of give me maybe an example.

27:19

S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

27:20

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

So if I know in the past, if I would like, if I was planning on doing it, I would want to feel the effects of it.

27:28

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

You know, like mental reasons to numb pain in a way.

27:34

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

27:35

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

To maybe just feel, I don't know.

27:39

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I, you know, you got, you get like the funny feeling where you're just laughing all the time or you're making jokes or you're, you know, you're having fun.

27:45

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Um, yeah, that's basically the.

27:49

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

27:49

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

And would you say, like, you said, like, in the past, would you say that in high school or even last year?

27:56

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yeah.

27:56

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

27:57

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Um, for taking the YOLO attitude, you put, uh, about half.

28:02

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yeah.

28:02

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Kind of go, kind of go into that.

28:04

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Um, well, sometimes you just like, well, you know, I'm only in college once.

28:08

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Why not?

28:09

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

You know, um, just sometimes you have that.

28:13

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I don't give a frick attitude.

28:17

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Um, you just, you know, you go out and do dumb things with your college student.

28:22

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Um, you're, I mean, at this age, you're 19, 20, 21 years old and you're going to go do dumb stuff, but, um, still got to control it in a way.

28:31

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

That's why, you know, I said half the time because you don't, I hate embarrassing myself.

28:37

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

So that's kind of why I put it there.

28:39

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

28:40

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

And you, would you say that kind of goes into the FOMO part?

28:43

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yes.

28:43

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yes.

28:44

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Half the time.

28:44

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yep.

28:44

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yep.

28:45

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

You know.

28:45

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

28:46

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

And then for, um, to celebrate special events, you also put half the time.

28:50

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yeah.

28:51

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Going to that, you know.

28:52

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Um, did you go out for St. Patrick's Day?

28:54

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Um, did I?

28:56

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I don't think so.

28:57

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I think I drove people around on St. Patrick's Day, but I think the weekend after we were still celebrating it.

29:03

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

So, you know, I had people up here and I, you know, I went around and had fun.

29:08

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Um, I know Halloween, I went out two, three times.

29:12

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Um, I had friends up here and then, uh, what's another holiday?

29:17

S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)

You know, like New Year.

29:19

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Valentine's.

29:19

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yeah.

29:19

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

I didn't, I didn't go out for Valentine's.

29:21

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

New Year's, I did, uh, I mean, I went to a house, but, um, we celebrated that.

29:26

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

And then birthdays, you know, anytime there's a birthday, we go and try to have fun.

29:31

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

29:31

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

All right.

29:32

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

That's sweet.

29:32

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Thank you so much for coming right now.

29:34

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Mm-hmm.

29:35

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

All right.

29:35

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Um, we're going to go into, um, kind of like, uh, back to your, like, a little bit week and,

29:41

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

uh, talk about drinking that week.

29:44

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Now, you know, what is it, like, about, you know, your typical week or weekdays that, you

29:50

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

know, is going on, that, um, going on in your life that is different than the weeks when

29:56

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

you do not drink as much?

29:58

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Like, what's the difference between...

30:00

S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)

A drinky day and, you know, a typical weekday.

30:05

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Well, you're talking about, like, the week.

30:07

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

So, like, if I have, like, well, let me explain.

30:10

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

If I have a week that I don't, that I'm not doing too well in, right,

30:14

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

sometimes I won't just to get out of my head.

30:17

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Because if I do drink, the next day is going to be even worse, like,

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

overthinking-wise because of the anxiety and stuff like that.

30:27

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

But what I do, it's more of just like a, like,

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

I don't want to think about anything right now type of thing.

30:35

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Yeah.

30:36

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay, okay.

30:38

S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)

Now, could you give me an example maybe of that?

30:44

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Like, I had a problem with a girl and I stuff didn't end well,

30:50

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

so I decided to drink on the day after, try to forget about it.

30:56

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay, I understand my names.

30:59

S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)

So, do you see students who have experienced maybe negative consequences

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S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)

from drinking too often?

31:06

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Like, kind of like what you're saying?

31:07

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Yeah, I know a couple kids that would, you know, get DUIs even.

31:12

S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)

DUIs, MIPs maybe?

31:13

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Yeah, I know a couple people that got MIPs.

31:18

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

There's, and they've, I mean, they've gotten in trouble at the bar too,

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

fighting even, you know, stuff like that.

31:26

S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)

Okay, maybe a specific example.

31:29

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

I know the same kid got, drove into a building and then the next week he was,

31:38

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

or he got put in jail and then got taken out.

31:43

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

And then, I think not too long after, he started fighting a kid while on alcohol,

31:48

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

or under the influence, I should say.

31:50

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

31:50

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

I know another kid that, I mean, he goes and fights at bars all the time.

31:55

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Not even just like here, I know that kid's brother even.

31:58

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

I mean, he'll go out and go fight kids at the bar and his school too.

32:01

S… Speaker 4 (20260331-122704)

Okay, okay.

32:05

S… Speaker 3 (20260331-122704)

From your perspective, when does drinking become a problem for college students?

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S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

When you, it starts to get a problem when you, I mean, I don't want to say it starts becoming a problem

32:17

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

when you get in trouble because that shouldn't be the reason, like why you should think like,

32:22

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

hey, this is a problem, you know?

32:23

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

I think it should be a problem when you don't remember multiple times, you know?

32:28

S… Speaker 2 (20260331-122704)

Like, it's not a good thing when you don't remember anything you did in the past day.

32:35

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Okay.

32:36

S… Speaker 1 (20260331-122704)

Um, yeah.

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