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Do you go by Ijaz or Mohammed?

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Ijaz,

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okay. Okay,

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so you can talk in Hindi.

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That's okay,

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that's okay.

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That's okay.

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What's your,

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I mean, if you don't mind me asking,

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what's your native language?

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Malaya.

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Oh, so you're South.

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Oh,

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okay.

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So tell me,

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did the police,

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did you give them any statement?

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They asked you anything?

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Okay.

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And

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who started?

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According to you,

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who started it?

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Like, was it...

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Like,

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it was mutual,

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kind of.

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It was...

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I didn't,

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like...

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How do I say it?

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Didn't respond to our entire time because I was in shift,

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you know.

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Okay.

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And you think that,

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so,

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she didn't get injured or anything,

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right? No.

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Okay.

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And what exactly,

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like, did you,

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like, punch her,

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slap her?

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Like, what did you do?

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No, nothing.

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I just picked her when she fell.

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That she's saying that while she was getting away from me,

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that she fell.

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Oh,

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okay. Because she's drunk,

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she met her,

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told her, like,

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I told her it was right behind her.

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She skipped and told her because she had

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and I picked that up because

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he gave a statement and saw this as

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a whole thing.

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you cannot believe like what they saw and stuff so she in

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an anger she reported to police right that okay fine he hurt me whatever my

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girlfriend didn't report anyone to the cops bystander

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oh yeah you were telling me there was another lady yeah

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and she was like like far away I don't

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know when the cops like arrested me then she came like to where she was

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standing like so I went from

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Tell me about your location.

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Where exactly were you?

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This was a public place?

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It was right in a lobby,

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you know, right down.

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A condo?

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Building apartment.

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And you lived there?

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No,

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I don't know.

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I just went to see her after a shift.

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My work is close to her.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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And how far approximately was this reporting bystander?

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I don't know.

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So, like,

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it was so far away.

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Like,

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Oh,

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okay.

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That's a big distance for someone to see.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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okay and and so would it be correct to assume

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that you were picking her up or meeting her just like after work like

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she

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didn't

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know you were coming right i mean which is okay yeah

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Should I be saying you the full story,

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just like how tall you told the cops?

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I'm just saying it here and there.

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That's why you are not getting the picture,

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I guess.

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the reason we ask the details is to like because one element of what they're

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charging you with is what was your mental state because i was

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sober i was coming from like the last shift i was

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no no mental state mental state doesn't mean like

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drunk or whatever it's like uh okay and

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what do you think triggered

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her to react or did she say i didn't tell you the story

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because

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So the only way so one way to do this is the person

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who this complaint is for they withdraw

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that

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So one way,

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like if the person who complained,

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right?

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So for example,

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I'll give an example.

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If person A said that,

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you know, you are B and you did something with C.

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If the C withdraws complaint,

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if they say that he did nothing with me,

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then your chart will be withdrawn completely.

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But I suppose you're not supposed to contact this person,

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right? Okay,

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so

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what we can do is you don't contact her because that's gonna bring you in

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trouble

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So don't even,

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don't even try because like,

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let's say, I mean,

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I know she's not going to report,

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but if police find out somehow or the other,

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they will use it against you in the case.

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So,

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so you don't want to give anyone a chance.

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Okay.

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Be very tight with that.

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Then the second thing,

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what we can try,

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what we will try to do is get a statement from this person.

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I think the person you can contact Nazia right so she

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she will give a written testimony that I have nothing against this person

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so in that case what's gonna happen is you'll be given a peace bond most likely

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it's like a it's like a one -year document but that also

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means that you will not be charged your criminal record will not exist

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okay okay so that's one way to do it and I will find out if like

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what's your like I mean have you

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contacted it like a lawyer have you

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Nobody.

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It just happened to a random lady with you,

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so I was blueless.

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I see.

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Okay. Okay,

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so what I'll do is I'll try to send you,

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like,

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you know, the steps and whatever it might cost.

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It won't cost you that much because usually,

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like,

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you know,

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I mean,

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if it's like a huge,

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like a theft,

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like a big charge,

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you know, something that's on paper and it happened for a long time,

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like, let's say you were committing this crime over two years,

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three years, then it's a big...

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cost to defend you but something like this is very like maybe like

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200 300 i can file that for you and then i

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mean you're gonna go through a procedure so all your goal all what

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you have to do is make sure um you know you are here

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for all the hearings they'll get they're gonna give you every five weeks you're gonna have hearing

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dates so you don't have to go

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Just the first two hearings,

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I don't want to go,

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right? Yeah.

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I just got into the job.

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Yeah,

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you won't be going.

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Okay.

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After a while,

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if it gets dated,

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I can just say it way before to the work so that I can.

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It's already been a hectic in work.

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Yes.

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No, so it won't.

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Did you tell anyone at work you got charged?

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No, no,

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no. Don't tell anybody.

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Because right now,

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you're innocent.

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There's no guilt on you.

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So we're going to...

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So once either myself or someone from my team gets on the

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board, then you don't have to attend any hearings.

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We might have some questions for you.

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But the procedure itself will not cost you a lot.

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It might go a little bit like a few months,

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like maybe four to five months.

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Thank you so much,

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yes. But obviously you're not going to be in custody.

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It comes down to the statement of the C,

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right?

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The person who's been late.

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Yeah, like I can give you the number and you can talk to them.

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I can talk to them.

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I can get a statement for you because I am allowed to talk to them,

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right? You are not allowed to talk.

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All right,

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okay.

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So send me...

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You want the number right away or you're going to do it right

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away or like how it's...

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I can start right away.

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So what I'll do is because I have to prepare some paperwork for you to be

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in the like for your first hearing.

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So you won't have to attend.

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but I'll just I'll send you a formal email where you will have like everything listed so

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you know what we're doing and then you know so it's official and everything and

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then then you don't have to worry about anything we're just gonna take you through the process and we'll try

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to drop your charge so have you a clear record right okay

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so don't stress out and just

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don't send it to me right now because I mean I just want to be careful for you I'll

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send you like a secure environment so it won't look like you sent it okay so like

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even I don't know with police you have to be extra careful yes

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I'll take it I'll take it and I'll send

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you a link where you can send it so it's police protected

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okay and i'll save your number i'll send you an email and then let me know um

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how you want to proceed um it might like initially it might cost you like 150 and

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then you know as we go like at different stages um like

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i said it would be like uh within like 500 it won't be too much like it like the

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whole four to five months is gonna be covered yeah okay

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no

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problem talk to you then thank you guys bye

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