បង្ហាញ​តែ
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Do you go by Ijaz or Mohammed?
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Ijaz,
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okay. Okay,
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so you can talk in Hindi.
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That's okay,
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that's okay.
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That's okay.
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What's your,
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I mean, if you don't mind me asking,
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what's your native language?
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Malaya.
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Oh, so you're South.
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Oh,
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okay.
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So tell me,
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did the police,
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did you give them any statement?
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They asked you anything?
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Okay.
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And
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who started?
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According to you,
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who started it?
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Like, was it...
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Like,
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it was mutual,
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kind of.
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It was...
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I didn't,
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like...
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How do I say it?
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Didn't respond to our entire time because I was in shift,
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you know.
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Okay.
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And you think that,
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so,
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she didn't get injured or anything,
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right? No.
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Okay.
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And what exactly,
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like, did you,
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like, punch her,
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slap her?
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Like, what did you do?
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No, nothing.
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I just picked her when she fell.
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That she's saying that while she was getting away from me,
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that she fell.
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Oh,
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okay. Because she's drunk,
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she met her,
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told her, like,
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I told her it was right behind her.
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She skipped and told her because she had
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and I picked that up because
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he gave a statement and saw this as
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a whole thing.
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you cannot believe like what they saw and stuff so she in
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an anger she reported to police right that okay fine he hurt me whatever my
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girlfriend didn't report anyone to the cops bystander
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oh yeah you were telling me there was another lady yeah
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and she was like like far away I don't
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know when the cops like arrested me then she came like to where she was
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standing like so I went from
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Tell me about your location.
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Where exactly were you?
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This was a public place?
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It was right in a lobby,
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you know, right down.
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A condo?
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Building apartment.
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And you lived there?
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No,
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I don't know.
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I just went to see her after a shift.
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My work is close to her.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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And how far approximately was this reporting bystander?
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I don't know.
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So, like,
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it was so far away.
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Like,
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Oh,
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okay.
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That's a big distance for someone to see.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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okay and and so would it be correct to assume
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that you were picking her up or meeting her just like after work like
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she
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didn't
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know you were coming right i mean which is okay yeah
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Should I be saying you the full story,
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just like how tall you told the cops?
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I'm just saying it here and there.
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That's why you are not getting the picture,
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I guess.
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the reason we ask the details is to like because one element of what they're
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charging you with is what was your mental state because i was
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sober i was coming from like the last shift i was
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S… Speaker 1 (ijaz audio)
no no mental state mental state doesn't mean like
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drunk or whatever it's like uh okay and
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what do you think triggered
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her to react or did she say i didn't tell you the story
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because
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So the only way so one way to do this is the person
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who this complaint is for they withdraw
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that
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So one way,
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like if the person who complained,
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right?
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So for example,
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I'll give an example.
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If person A said that,
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you know, you are B and you did something with C.
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If the C withdraws complaint,
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if they say that he did nothing with me,
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then your chart will be withdrawn completely.
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But I suppose you're not supposed to contact this person,
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right? Okay,
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so
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what we can do is you don't contact her because that's gonna bring you in
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trouble
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So don't even,
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don't even try because like,
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let's say, I mean,
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I know she's not going to report,
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but if police find out somehow or the other,
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they will use it against you in the case.
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So,
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so you don't want to give anyone a chance.
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Okay.
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Be very tight with that.
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Then the second thing,
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what we can try,
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what we will try to do is get a statement from this person.
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I think the person you can contact Nazia right so she
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she will give a written testimony that I have nothing against this person
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so in that case what's gonna happen is you'll be given a peace bond most likely
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it's like a it's like a one -year document but that also
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means that you will not be charged your criminal record will not exist
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okay okay so that's one way to do it and I will find out if like
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what's your like I mean have you
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contacted it like a lawyer have you
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Nobody.
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S… Speaker 2 (ijaz audio)
It just happened to a random lady with you,
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so I was blueless.
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S… Speaker 1 (ijaz audio)
I see.
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Okay. Okay,
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so what I'll do is I'll try to send you,
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like,
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you know, the steps and whatever it might cost.
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It won't cost you that much because usually,
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like,
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you know,
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I mean,
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if it's like a huge,
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like a theft,
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like a big charge,
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you know, something that's on paper and it happened for a long time,
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like, let's say you were committing this crime over two years,
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three years, then it's a big...
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cost to defend you but something like this is very like maybe like
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200 300 i can file that for you and then i
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mean you're gonna go through a procedure so all your goal all what
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you have to do is make sure um you know you are here
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for all the hearings they'll get they're gonna give you every five weeks you're gonna have hearing
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dates so you don't have to go
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S… Speaker 2 (ijaz audio)
Just the first two hearings,
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I don't want to go,
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right? Yeah.
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I just got into the job.
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S… Speaker 1 (ijaz audio)
Yeah,
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you won't be going.
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Okay.
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After a while,
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S… Speaker 2 (ijaz audio)
if it gets dated,
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I can just say it way before to the work so that I can.
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It's already been a hectic in work.
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S… Speaker 1 (ijaz audio)
Yes.
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No, so it won't.
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Did you tell anyone at work you got charged?
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S… Speaker 2 (ijaz audio)
No, no,
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no. Don't tell anybody.
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Because right now,
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you're innocent.
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There's no guilt on you.
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So we're going to...
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So once either myself or someone from my team gets on the
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board, then you don't have to attend any hearings.
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We might have some questions for you.
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But the procedure itself will not cost you a lot.
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It might go a little bit like a few months,
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like maybe four to five months.
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Thank you so much,
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yes. But obviously you're not going to be in custody.
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S… Speaker 2 (ijaz audio)
It comes down to the statement of the C,
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right?
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S… Speaker 2 (ijaz audio)
The person who's been late.
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Yeah, like I can give you the number and you can talk to them.
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S… Speaker 1 (ijaz audio)
I can talk to them.
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I can get a statement for you because I am allowed to talk to them,
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right? You are not allowed to talk.
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All right,
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okay.
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So send me...
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You want the number right away or you're going to do it right
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away or like how it's...
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S… Speaker 1 (ijaz audio)
I can start right away.
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So what I'll do is because I have to prepare some paperwork for you to be
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in the like for your first hearing.
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So you won't have to attend.
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but I'll just I'll send you a formal email where you will have like everything listed so
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you know what we're doing and then you know so it's official and everything and
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then then you don't have to worry about anything we're just gonna take you through the process and we'll try
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to drop your charge so have you a clear record right okay
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so don't stress out and just
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don't send it to me right now because I mean I just want to be careful for you I'll
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send you like a secure environment so it won't look like you sent it okay so like
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even I don't know with police you have to be extra careful yes
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I'll take it I'll take it and I'll send
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you a link where you can send it so it's police protected
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okay and i'll save your number i'll send you an email and then let me know um
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how you want to proceed um it might like initially it might cost you like 150 and
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then you know as we go like at different stages um like
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i said it would be like uh within like 500 it won't be too much like it like the
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whole four to five months is gonna be covered yeah okay
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no
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problem talk to you then thank you guys bye

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