0714 (1)
Jul 15, 2026 01:47
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You know, it's our education system,
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though, as well.
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Our education system is teaching all the wrong things.
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This is one of my obsessions.
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You know, Thomas Jefferson believed that the single point of public education was
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to train the populace to be free citizens to oppose despotism.
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That was a single point.
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Today,
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it's the opposite.
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It's literally the opposite.
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It's literally the opposite.
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It's literally the far left and the commies are running this and making us guilty and making us
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pro -authoritarian in the system.
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So it's like, this is why school choice is so important.
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This is why we have to fight for our education system.
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Yeah, so...
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If we're painting that, if we're trying to paint that positive vision...
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The easy version,
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I guess, on the other side is,
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oh, but robots will take our jobs,
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they will do all of our tasks,
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and there will be no meaning left.
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You hear a lot of this.
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Mostly coming from the left,
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but a little bit from the right.
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Meaning, I like arguing,
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and dignity of work.
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This is extremely important to me.
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Ironic having the left talk about meaning and dignity of work when they're paying millions of people
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not to work right now.
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So it's really bad for our culture.
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I think they've destroyed certain parts of our inner city culture by paying people not to work.
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So I agree with the dignity of work,
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but so far,
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it's definitely not been true.
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So far, you can see that you're making every person more valuable.
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Right now, we have 7 million unfilled vocational jobs in this country.
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Everyone always complains online,
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like, of course, people are angry.
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They're losing their jobs.
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Like, A, unemployment's slow.
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B,
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If you don't have a job,
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there's lots of really great training programs.
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We should make them even better,
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by the way.
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We should make them accountable.
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But there's lots of ways you can get a job right now if you're willing to work.
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I think our culture has a problem with people not willing to work.
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There's not a culture of people who can't find work.
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It's different.
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Right.
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But in terms of the easy version,
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it's like, okay,
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but the Amazon delivery guy is going to be replaced by a robot or
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a drone.
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And you're going to go to McDonald's,
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and instead of paying someone $15 an hour,
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it'll just be a robot,
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which that's already happening with iPads and that kind of stuff.
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So how do you refute stuff that people are going to kind of see first?
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So I think we have to understand what an industrial revolution is and what productivity
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growth means.
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So if you look at America,
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about every 90 years,
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maybe even slightly faster,
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we've destroyed about half the jobs.
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And this is a very important point,
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right? Because there's people with last names of Cooper or Smith or Bowyer.
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That's a cool one.
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Yeah,
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I got it.
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I got it.
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They did cool things.
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They did cool things.
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And by the way,
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there was a lot of - Hard things.
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Hard things.
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There was a lot of dignity in that work.
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There was a lot of art in that work.
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I think it's kind of sad that there's not as many of these really cool Coopers and Bowyers around.
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There's still people, but there's not the jobs.
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But you know what?
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If we didn't destroy those jobs,
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we would all be a lot poorer,
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right?
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You always tell people, if you want everyone to have jobs,
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we'd ban farm tools.
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And we would not have time,
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most of us, to be doing podcasts.
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We would instead be farming.
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And then you would never get your basketball court.
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Right.
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So what do you think the relationship between the people that
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want to lean into all of this and the technologists behind it should be
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with the government right now?
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Because that seems to be a big one.
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Well...
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