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Is it in your expert opinion that Jack Ruby and Manson were

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assets of the intelligence agencies specifically pertaining to MKUltra?

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Were they MKUltra?

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S… Speaker 1 (MKUltra1)

Yeah.

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S… Speaker 3 (MKUltra1)

So,

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you know, this book that we've covered this on the show,

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Chaos,

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Charles Manson,

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the CIA and the Secret History of the 60s.

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Tom O 'Neill.

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Tom O 'Neill.

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Now, Kurt,

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should I play that video now that you sent me?

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oh well first let's establish who he is because i think it's there's a key in here i met

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a great fitzsimmons is friends with him so that guy who wrote that

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book talked about how mk altered the 60s were um

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now representative anna paulina luna

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chairing a hearing where he's testifying to let everybody know about this,

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which makes me suspect of this whole hearing.

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If she's in charge of it,

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does it make you suspect a little,

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Kurt, or no?

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There's so much weirdness around her.

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I don't know what to make of any of it.

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She's the one that that guy was recorded saying he was eating at the Knights of Malta

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to have her killed her opponent in that race.

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Yeah.

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That was a big story then.

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There's something with Tulsi Gabbard getting those documents,

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and now they're saying she works for a cult and this and that.

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But Tulsi was getting MKUltra documents,

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supposedly, and I thought she was doing it in conjunction with Luna.

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So I don't really know the whole backstory there,

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but there's something very bizarre about the whole thing.

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But MKUltra is true real,

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and you were hearing hearings about it.

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And it directly relates to Tyler Robinson.

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Directly.

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She tweeted out,

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according to today's expert witness,

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Jack Ruby and Charles Manson were MK Ultra assets.

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S… Speaker 1 (MKUltra1)

What?

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S… Speaker 5 (MKUltra1)

That's preposterous.

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It's just a normal case of a lone nut shooter of a lone nut.

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That's all.

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Oldest crime in the book,

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right?

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Come on.

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If MKUltra had their way,

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Charles Manson would have been in The Monkees.

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I feel like he was,

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but I could be wrong.

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I would have made for a very different TV show experience.

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Songs like, take the last train to Spa Ranch.

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Yeah.

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He never wrote a song that good.

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Let's face it.

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Yeah.

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So here, let's listen to some of his testimony.

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Is it in your expert opinion that Jack

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Ruby and Manson were?

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assets of the intelligence agencies specifically pertaining to MKUltra?

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Were they MKUltra victims?

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Yeah, theoretically,

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Manson,

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I've never been able to prove absolutely.

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Jack Ruby,

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I believe,

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this is something else.

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The Warren Commission investigation on

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the Warren Commission was Alan Dulles,

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the former CIA director.

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who authorized and ran MKUltra until he was fired by President

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Kennedy.

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The liaison to the committee for the CIA,

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who handled the information coming from the CIA back and forth

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to the Warren Commission,

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was Richard Helms,

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who was a direct supervisor of Jolly West.

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They knew who West was.

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They knew what West was capable of and what they had paid

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him to do and what he had reported to them that he could do,

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including inducing mental disorders in people.

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said kurt who is jolly west the guy that killed an elephant

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with acid that was working for mk ultra and he would introduce himself at

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parties that way that he once killed an elephant with acid okay so he was

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in charge of the mk ultra sydney gottlieb's a big name but keep

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in mind that's just the mk ultra part it got worse and worse and worse so these are the names you always

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hear

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Now, the thing that's interesting is,

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I thought, as the great Bill Maher told us,

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that was that thing with the acid in the 60s.

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They already had a hearing about.

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But now it's time for another one of those CIA.

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What was the hearing called where they brought that stuff out?

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Was that the church committee?

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Yeah.

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We need another church committee because right now,

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I doubt they'll comply.

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But remember, Trump's supposed to unredact and release all the rest of the Epstein files.

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If anybody bothered to look through them,

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all kinds of MKUltra stuff in there,

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just up and down.

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And there's a lot.

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The program never stopped.

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And in case you're wondering why your friends don't know anything,

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my guess is that's why.

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OK,

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let's let's let's listen a little bit more.

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So he's talking about the guy who was the liaison to

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bring information to the Warren Commission

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was the guy running MK Ultra.

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That's what this guy,

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Jolly West.

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OK.

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What's that?

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I'm sorry.

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Sidney Gottlieb was the guy I thought was like the main name at the time,

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but it was under Alan Dulles.

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Alan Dulles was the Dulles brother was the guy really bringing it in.

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And then he worked under a Jolly West.

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I don't know his exact rank in the program,

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but he's CIA puke.

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that he could do,

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including inducing mental disorders in people,

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that was never disclosed to the commission as far as anyone

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knows.

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So I believe that Wes was...

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So that would be pertinent because if they

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knew that if the people who were running MKUltra knew...

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that they could induce mental diseases or mental

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conditions in people,

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then they,

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of course, would use that on somebody like a patsy or somebody like

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Jack Ruby or somebody like anybody.

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You can make a sleeper agent,

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Jimmy, that doesn't know that they're supposed to pop off at a certain time.

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So you can implant that in someone and then trigger them with phrases and phone

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calls.

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And just like I think happened when the president of,

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was it Slovakia?

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Yeah.

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Was going to investigate Pfizer and a 72 -year -old man with no history of violence all

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of a sudden shoots him in the face?

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Yep.

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This is proprietary tech for corporations and governments now.

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Okay.

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Put in there to keep Jack Ruby from telling his story.

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Wow.

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In closing,

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I just want to thank you all for being here today.

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Let me play that through without stopping.

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Is it in your expert opinion that Jack Ruby and Manson were

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assets of the intelligence agencies specifically pertaining to MKUltra?

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Were they MKUltra?

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Yeah, theoretically,

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Manson,

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I've never been able to prove absolutely.

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Jack Ruby,

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I believe.

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This is something else.

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The Warren Commission investigation on

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the Warren Commission was Alan Dulles,

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the former CIA director.

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who authorized and ran MKUltra until he was fired by President

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Kennedy.

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The liaison to the committee for the CIA,

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who handled the information coming from the CIA back and forth

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to the Warren Commission,

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was Richard Helms,

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who was a direct supervisor of Jolly West.

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They knew who West was.

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They knew what West was capable of and what they had paid

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him to do and what he had reported to them that he could do,

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including inducing...

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mental disorders in people.

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That was never disclosed to the commission as far as anyone

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knows.

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So I believe that Wes was put in there to keep Jack Ruby from

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telling his story.

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Wow.

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Not Jack Ruby too,

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the guy who the feds magically parted like it was the Red Sea so he

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could have a clean shot at Oswald.

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He was an MK slave too?

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No!

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Remember he left his dog in the car that he loved that he never would have done

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that?

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No, I know we say how weird that was that his dog.

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He always had his little dog.

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He left it in the car That's because he's probably under suggestion and Charles Manson

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if you look up Danny Trejo the guy played machete that actor He was in

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prison with Manson when he was hanging around Mexican gangsters and Manson could hypnotize

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them to get high on heroin

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There were three of them in the cell,

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and Manson was able to hypnotize two of them to get a heroin high,

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and the other one couldn't because he'd never done heroin,

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so his body didn't know how to feel like it was on heroin.

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So Manson had the power to do that.

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Where'd he get that from?

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How'd he learn that so well?

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I think it's CIA,

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and you can go look that story up.

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He's told it on a bunch of podcasts,

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Danny Trejo.

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That's a really crazy story where if you had done heroin in your life,

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he could hypnotize you,

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and you would get high.

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And that's had the power of that stuff.

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And Jolly West was an expert in it.

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They've been using it for quite a long time.

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So I flatly

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refuse to believe any of this,

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Kurt. I mean,

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it doesn't mean it isn't true.

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It just means these facts don't really fit in with my worldview at the moment.

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That's right, Jimmy.

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You look right into this scorpion pendant and just keep saying that and we'll be fine.

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So here's what I find interesting is that Anna Paulina Luna,

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she's a APEC toady.

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Yeah,

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well, that's most of the government.

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So,

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I mean, that is most of the government,

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right?

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I mean, I think Massey was the last one that they don't own.

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Right.

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So I don't.

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I think she's monarched herself,

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by the way,

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because of her Wonder Woman cosplay hot chick outfit and every other bizarre

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thing about her.

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I would wager she's some kind of MK monarch.

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Most of the people you see running these new hot politicians that seem

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like astroturfed,

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they are.

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So this is from now when I studied advertising in college,

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which I did, I got my degree in marketing communications and I was supposed to

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go become a copywriter for advertising.

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But instead, I there was a comedy boom and I could make five hundred dollars a

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week just telling jokes without any talent.

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And so I decided to jump.

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But here's what he so he went in advertising school.

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He's considered the father of advertising and he's this brilliant genius

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guy. But here's what he said.

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The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and

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opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society.

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Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute

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an invisible government,

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which is the true ruling power of our country.

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We are governed,

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our minds are molded,

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our tastes formed,

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our ideas suggested largely by the men we have never heard

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of.

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result of the way in which our democratic society is organized

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vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this

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manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning

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society so he's talking about a greater form of mind control which

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is what everybody else is under if you're not that's the mass version yeah

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that's the mass version of it scalable that's why tech people love it

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it's like yeah and it's it's like that that rolling stone song about uh

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you you know uh i want my shirts to be

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as white as my well i forget how that whole my shirts it's that whole song about how

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advertising controls what you think why can't i can't think of the lyrics right now

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it's i can't get no satisfaction i know i know uh

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but anyway here is uh

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The Goyim knows.

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So Mickey Cohen,

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Jewish mafia.

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There's Jack Rubenstein,

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which is Jack Ruby,

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also Jewish mafia.

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Lee Harvey Oswald's assassin,

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Jack Ruby,

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idolized Cohen and dated his girlfriend,

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Candy Bar.

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Candy Bar?

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Was she in a punk band or something?

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Come on, Candy Bar?

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My Gen X brain can only interpret that name one way,

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Jimmy. Pug band.

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Mickey Cohen ran a gambling operation in the Ambassador

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Hotel.

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That's where RFK Jr.

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RFK was assassinated.

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Yeah.

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The Jewish mob's concerns about JFK's Israel

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politics.

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OK, so let's move

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on to this is what this is what RFK has had to say about MKUltra.

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The CIA is allowed to propagandize around the world,

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and it's the biggest funder of journalism today in the world.

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It spends $10 billion a year through USAID

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to fund journalism all over the world.

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It owns some of the biggest newspapers and magazines,

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the most influential in the developing world in Europe and around the

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world. But there was a,

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in the CIA's charter,

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it says,

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and then there was an act called the Smith -Mundt Act.

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makes it illegal for the cia to propaganda

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as americans so in 1973 there were congressional

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hearings that came out of the house select assassination committee hearings

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when all the cia secrets were revealed they were called the family jewels

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it was all of the worst secrets of the

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cia that they all kept in one place

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And that was released,

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you know,

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during the 1970s,

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during these hearings from the church committee and the House Select Assassination

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Committee.

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And Americans learned for the first time about,

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you know, Operation Mockingbird,

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but also about MK Ultra,

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MK Naomi,

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MK Dietrich.

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These were all of the MK.

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stands for mind control.

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And the CIA had these programs at Fort Detrick,

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but at 220 universities around our country and

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in Latin America and Canada,

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experimenting with ways to control

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the human mind.

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The LSD came out of that program.

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They were using psychoactive drugs.

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They were using torture.

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They were using sensory deprivation.

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They were using noise.

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And

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they were figuring out how to

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control individuals,

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including how to develop mentoring candidates,

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unwilling assassins,

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through hypnosis,

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and these other techniques.

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How do you control whole societies through,

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you know, the destruction of institutions,

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the propagation of lies,

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you know,

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instigated violence and the sort of the

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orchestrated diminishment of faith

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in the institutions of society and the mistrust among people.

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So they had all of these,

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you know, they were experimenting.

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And, you know, it wasn't just the U .S.

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The same thing was happening in Russia.

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and in other parts of the world.

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But we had a very,

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very sophisticated program that violated a lot of

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American values.

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How effective do you think the

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MKUltra program was?

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Well,

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I mean, there's a lot of things that came out of it.

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And there's a lot of,

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you know, it's hard to tell because a lot of it was top secret.

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I mean, it's very,

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you know.

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It's a really interesting and very surprisingly well -documented

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history.

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But,

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you know, I don't want it.

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But the term conspiracy theorist was

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there was a memo that went out to all.

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All of those journalists who were associated with the CIA in 1964,

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where they said that anybody who questions the

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Kennedy assassination,

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you know,

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the Warren report,

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which was the report that was done by a commission that

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was appointed by LBJ.

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And the commission was essentially told,

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and individual members were told,

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you've got to say that this was a single gunman.

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Do not let people talk about a conspiracy theory.

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The named head of the commission was Earl Warren,

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who was a Supreme Court justice,

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but the real head of the commission was Alan Dulles,

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who had been the head of the CIA,

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who my uncle had fired.

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When my uncle died,

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he told a young journalist,

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oh,

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he thought he was a god.

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I'm glad the little shit is dead.

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You know,

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we now know that the CIA was directly involved in my

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uncle's assassination and in the 60

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-year cover -up.

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They continue to be involved.

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They're still not releasing,

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you know,

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the last assassination documents that are required

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by the JFK Papers Act,

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the Assassination Papers Act.

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So there you go.

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The administration,

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Trump ordered it.

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It's not happening.

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What's that?

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Say it again.

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He's in the Trump administration and not and

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can't get.

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And by the way,

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just to make it a little creepier for you,

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Sean Ryan,

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a .k .a.

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Sean Palmisano,

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that's his real name.

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I'm pretty sure he's an MK monarch.

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Anybody that would be a CIA drug runner in Colombia turned

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podcaster.

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Real good shot he's part of it.

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And I already know he's been spoken to.

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I know people spoke to him about it.

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Because if you recall,

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his friend was the one who had the Tesla truck with the shooting

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and the fireworks.

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We still got no answers on any of that.

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I'd wager RFK's been through some treatment himself because of his

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unwillingness.

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Remember, he stayed in a tent with Roger Ailes on a kibbutz for reasons we

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don't know to this day,

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but it's weird as hell.

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There's a woman named Deborah Jaffe that I just had on Mystery Boys,

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okay?

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And you should bring her on because her dad was the daughter of the

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former ABC News,

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Moscow and Hong Kong bureau chief from 1961 to 1965.

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FBI informant,

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and he's later accused of being a double agent and sleeper agent by the CIA and

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FBI.

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He was a Ukrainian Jewish,

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served in the OSS.

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All the reporters,

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Walter Cronkite especially,

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is a piece of garbage,

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CIA garbage.

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That's why he's the narrator at Bohemian Grove,

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by the way.

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The stuff she was telling us was unbelievable. But the whole media.

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I guess I'm trying to say this explains Chris Cuomo.

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Any lingering questions you had?

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MKUltra and Mockingbird.

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But Monarch.

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RFK ain't saying it and Sean Palmisano ain't saying it and Luna ain't saying

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it because I think they're in it.

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Monarch.

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That's the bad one.

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We've had guests that were part of Monarch.

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Kathy O 'Brien and that doctor who was on,

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Juliette Engel.

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It was Monarch.

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You never hear him say it,

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but I like to say it over and over to bother whoever is trying to hide it.

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So RFK went on to say that I guess what I'm trying to say is Israel

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did nothing wrong.

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And that's my final point,

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Jimmy. It's not just the name of my old band.

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Anyway,

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let's I forget what this is.

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Let me play it.

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And now the story.

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Oh, so this is how they this is how this is.

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It'll show you how they might control large swaths of people.

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And now the story of a dog named Drew and his master,

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Pavlov.

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Every day Pavlov would feed Drew.

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Drew's mouth would water every time he was fed.

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One day Pavlov rang a bell just before feeding time.

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Pavlov rang the bell each day just before

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feeding.

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One day the bell rang and Drew began to

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salivate.

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But there was no food.

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This involuntary reaction made Drew one of the most famous dogs in

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history.

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Together with his best friend Pavlov,

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Drew had proven the scientific theory of conditioning.

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It turns out that a wide variety of reactions can

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be triggered in similar fashion.

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Now imagine that Pavlov is a news network and viewers are all

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dogs.

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By repeatedly delivering negative information in association

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with trigger words or names,

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the head of a news organization could poison the minds of millions so

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that any mention of a person's name would instantly create negative,

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aggressive,

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or fear -based responses.

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Psychologists call this emotional transference.

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In a time of calamity,

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one could influence purchase habits.

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Remember the great toilet paper run of 2020? There was no...

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A real shortage of toilet paper,

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but the focus on toilet paper shortages by mass media resulted

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in hoarding,

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which created a real -world shortage.

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On a more interesting note,

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across the United States,

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