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I intend to hear some small directions,
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environmental results,
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an economic analysis,
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and some conclusions.
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So,
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it's interesting to compare these kind of technologies that require
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young people in applications.
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we need to use the 618991
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standard.
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That is of course the
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one that is required for testing polypricism with
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the verbal speed drives.
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But there is some catch here because when
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you see the machine being sold and you look at the catalogue,
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normally they were tested by the
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634.
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there's 13 -1 and 34
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-2 -1 so because they are one -stuck machines
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so you test them using the 34 -2 -1
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standard but the permanent minets or
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or the synchronous electric machines they have to be
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tested using this one the
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the C734 -2 -2 -3
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So, the efficiency that you see on the nameplate or
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in the catalogue is not tested in the same conditions.
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So,
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in the case of the induction machine,
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you are using almost ideal power
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supply voltage.
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It's the desired power supply.
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And in the case of the synchronous machines,
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you need to consider all the conditions that are described
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in these standards for aerospace machines.
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in which are taking into account
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also the harmonic losses and therefore you cannot compare directly
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these efficiency levels that are on the nameplate in both machines.
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So
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we know that squirrel cage emissions dominate
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the market,
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particularly online such applications.
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But when we look at variable speed and or variable torque
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applications,
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we start to see signals of
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motor technology to grow fast due to the
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obvious advantages that we will talk about here.
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And so in that scenario
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of variable speed,
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variable torque applications,
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this hybrid technology is permanent.
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minot -assisted technology is
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interesting because it's a mix between both
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current minot and synchronous wireless technology.
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But you can use very high
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density current minots,
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but you can also use ferrite minots.
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And that decreases a lot the cost of the machine.
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And so I think it's a very balanced
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solution.
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because you can improve the power factor,
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which is also important,
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in order to reduce the rating
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of the inverter,
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and that's an advantage.
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And also,
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as well as the losses in the inverter are
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also reduced.
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And so we have probably the best of both
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worlds.
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And the relentless world can merge
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and you have this kind of hybrid machine.
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Just a note here that when today,
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when you're talking about permanent magnet machines or permanent
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-assisted synchronous relentless machines,
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basically it's the same technology.
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It's just a matter of which torque is dominant,
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the relentless or the permanent magnet is dominating.
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Because it's the same,
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because the permanent magnet machine also has a relentless torque.
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most of the most common designs like a v -shape or u -shape
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design so basically it's the same and so
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these technologies so many manufacturers
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now say that with these permanent magnet assistive
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machines they can reach the i6
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or i5 plus
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hyper premium efficiency.
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That means that they can reduce 30 %
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on the loss in relation to I4 or
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I5.
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That's the claim.
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So the idea was to try to check with one
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of the latest technologies that are being commercialized
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and compare.
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So this is an experiment that was
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made.
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inverter and we test these both in the states 7
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.5 i4 class induction machine
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7 .5
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here
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you can see the name plates for the rear motor this
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induction induction was offered to us by VAG
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many years ago but it is still a
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very good machine
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We use a shaft torque,
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a sensor,
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precision power analyzer,
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and so everything is equal in both machines and the same inverter.
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So it was a fair comparison for sure.
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So
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the manufacturer of this hybrid
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machine presents in the catalogue some information.
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It's interesting to look at it because it says...
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But the signal that this design eliminates rotor losses,
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yes,
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visually it's true,
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but it's not completely true.
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There are some losses in rotor,
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always.
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Because it's a conductive,
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you have conductive parts in there,
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you cannot forget that,
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okay, you have a dominant rotating field,
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but you also have harmonic rotating fields in
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rotor -circle interaction,
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because the winding is not perfect.
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special harmonics in a magnet motive force in the ICAP.
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And the addition of direct magnet increases
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field strength,
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less low compared stator,
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that's true for sure,
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referred to you.
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And less overall losses,
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lower current growth and lower motor temperatures.
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This last one,
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it seems to be true.
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My conclusion was Jones.
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So it's interesting.
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So the manufacturer also shows
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the technology and it's a reference machine
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with the permanent magnets inserted in the space
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of the flex barriers.
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But it could be a permanent magnet machine with
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a V -shaped configuration and like that.
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So it's also different.
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And there is a detail that is quite interesting,
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a detail in this machine.
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they install by default
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a brush connected shaft and
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this is to deviate currents
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from the
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barriers and it's very clever because if this machine
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only works with an inverter and we know that an expectation
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like a PWM
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will inject a common mode voltage into the windings
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there is no way not to have a high frequency
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current in the bearings that will short the lifespan
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of the bearing I can tell you statistically it will lower
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2 to 4 times the lifespan of the bearings and
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so it's clever to consider
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this kind of detail on his machine because
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if
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You think that when a bearing fails,
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you need to dismantle the machine,
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you need to change the bearing,
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etc. We're
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able to reduce the frequency of this bearing in place.
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So
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we test basically the points that are at
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61 ,892
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standard and again 25 degrees Celsius
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in the room,
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in the lab.
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and so basically we cast
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8 points but in our analysis we can only consider
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these 3 points so
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first result motor efficiency
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and it's
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obvious the advantage that the permanent magnet
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has over the induction machine
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When you start to reduce speed,
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if you maintain 100 % torque,
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yes,
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there is a huge difference between both systems.
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We are talking about only the motor efficiency,
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not the system efficiency.
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But I was
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expecting more,
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because the difference is not so huge
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as I was expecting.
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So the technology is better,
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but it's not really so better than the induction machine,
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even at low speed.
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And so this was a little bit of a surprise.
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So the
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VSD,
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the drive,
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also has a better efficiency with this
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hybrid motor.
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And why?
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Because of that power factor,
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the motor will need less current,
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line current,
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so we will have less losses in the inverter.
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it has an advantage for sure though there
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are also other things that sometimes are not considered
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because if you have an inverter a lower load
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you have more current distortion at the input so it's
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not straightforward but anyway it's here it's a good example that
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the technology can help you twice the motor itself and
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also
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reducing the loss of lift in the inverter boosting the final
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efficiency of the system but
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it's interesting here to see that at 25 % torque particularly
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here because the current is so low the lift is not
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so significant so as you reduce the torque and
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the speed the advantages start to be quite
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less round so
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the power drive system efficiency
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Now we combine both motor and inverter efficiency and
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yes here now we have a significant difference
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both at 90 % of speed and also at
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low speed for 100 % torque and
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also at 50 % and at 25 %
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it still maintains that difference.
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And that's why,
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in the first presentation,
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I was trying to highlight that
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savings in
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absolute value are much more relevant when you have
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a higher load.
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When you start to decrease the load because it's lower speed or lower torque,
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you start to decrease also this loss difference.
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And the loss difference is really what matters here,
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not the rest.
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The loss difference is really what you are saving depending on the temperature.
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And you can see that,
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for example,
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at this point,
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90 % speed and 90 % torque of 224
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watts of difference.
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percent speed you maintain more or less and you can actually increase
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a little bit the loss difference or the savings but
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when you go to 25 percent torque it will go
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up so the savings are not so relevant though
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in terms of percentage it is
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relevant but not in absolute values
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and that's very important to consider in our economic studies and
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our economic comparison.
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Now
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that's a surprise here because when you look at temperature and
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here we have we measured
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the motor frame temperature directly with
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a PT100 temperature sensor
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And we found that the hybrid motor has a
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slightly higher temperature in the freck.
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I wasn't expecting this.
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But when you reduce
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the torque, it's more or less the same.
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And here,
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for a very low torque,
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it has a
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low temperature.
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The question is why?
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Why this machine has a higher temperature?
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When
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you look at the winding temperature that we measure by stopping the machine
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in each of the points and we measure the rest of
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the winding and we convert
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it into the distribution temperature of the winding and
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we see that
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the difference is very significant so the lining that is 90 percent
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speed and when it's on torque it's it's almost
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20 kelvin so 20 kelvin is
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very significant it can really decrease the lifespan
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of the lining significantly and only
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it starts to be interesting when you reduce the speed or
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the torque okay in that case you're doing verge
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this temperature relation.
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So this machine operates
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with a higher temperature for sure when you are close
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to the rate of power.
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Why?
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Probably that's my explanation because the
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frame is not so optimized to dissipate the
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heat and so the thermal resistance is
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probably higher in the machine.
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when you compare it to the harmonized in an induction machine.
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Because they know the machine is more efficient.
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They know they have more losses.
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So they kept on the dissipation capability
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of the machine.
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That's why.
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But probably it's not a good thing here.
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So it should be optimized and
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probably revisited in terms of design to guarantee a lower temperature
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in relation to an induction machine.
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But regarding the temperature,
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one important thing that we should mention is
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that not having rotor losses,
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of course,
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the bearing temperature is expected to be lower.
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I didn't measure it,
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but it's an advantage because it contributes
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to older life in the bearing lubricants,
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etc.
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So, because we don't have rotor losses,
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not having rotor losses,
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we have a lower rotor temperature,
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so the bearings.
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will last longer.
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So that's an advantage of this innovation.
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So I
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did here a very basic economic analysis because I didn't have
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enough data.
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I just have data for
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the i4 classification.
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The list cost is 795
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euros.
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And I made a kind of a different calculation.
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I said, okay,
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what could be...
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extra cost of this hybrid machine to
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have a two -year payback time for different scenarios.
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I consider different costs for electricity,
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0 .1 kWh
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and 0 .2 kWh,
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as well as different operating hours per year from 2000
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to 2000.
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And so the cost
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of the power drive system was
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reduction is here listed and the
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annual savings in percentage of the induction
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machine base price is here built from
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6 .5 to 1 .3%.
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This is for a constant load torque.
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I consider of course the same torque,
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11 % torque and 90 % and 50 %
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speed.
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This is the kind of and 50 % of the time working in both
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operating points.
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So with this scenario here,
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I just came up with these values.
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So this machine can cost between 12 .8 and
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102 .6 % more than the induction
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machine, and you still can't have a payback time
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lower than two years.
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And
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if you consider that with that torque load,
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in which we have 50 % of time working at 90 % higher than a new torque,
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55 % of the time with 50 % speed and 20 % torque like
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a fan for example the scenario is a little bit different
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but even so you can have an admissible
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extra cost of 9 .4 % up
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to 75 % to recover
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this extra cost in less than two years so
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this is really interesting because you can see that there
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is no argument
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not to invest in these new technologies and if you put
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on the top of it this new information that
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probably the price would be almost the same if you take into account
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that you can save some material in permanent man -made
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synchronous machines it will be completely different in
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that case the payback is immediate but in this case this
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particular case in two commercial available technologies
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it's obvious that this is cost -effective.
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So,
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concluding,
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this experiment has demonstrated
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the superior performance of this other machine and
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the entire load range.
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It's not only because of the lower motor loss but also the
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resulting reduction in the DSD engine losses.

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