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This year,

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we have a new performance in the compressor and pump side.

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but hopefully can also show something which is going on in the world

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and in our business.

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I want to invite normally Brittany

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from AMCA but due to some reasons

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she couldn't try in and so we changed something both

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positions.

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So the first presentation we had from Mikey Runwich,

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she is the boss of Brittany,

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he is the director of public.

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for education and advocacy

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at AMCA International,

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also responsible for what's going on in the region.

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He is 15 years old,

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also a mechanical engineer from the University of Colorado,

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when I arrived informed.

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And I would say since he started at AMCA,

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he also knows a little bit about the European.

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fan regulation and fan business and a lot of stuff but the

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title today is updating what's going on in the US and fan

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recognition in our 3KD spirit.

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Thank you very much.

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So when Brittany and I put together a couple of presentations for EMOT,

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we were really anticipating that we were part of a larger group of fan presentations

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that others would be covering the US or the European or what's going

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on in the Asian or that nature.

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So it turns out that we're the only two fan presenters.

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Unfortunately,

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Brittany took seriously ill just before the trip,

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and so I'll be covering those slides.

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And that's so you don't have to listen to me for a full hour.

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Christian Tabor is here from Big Ass Fans.

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And I've asked him to substitute for me for my slides so

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that you can have two different presenters for the next hour.

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So first of all,

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I wanted to thank everybody for making the trip,

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for attending this session,

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and dedicating part of your lives to learning a little bit more about what's going on.

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And there's Brittany.

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Hello,

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Brittany.

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She's very,

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very sad she cannot make it.

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This would have been her first overseas trip in her life,

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so she's very sad.

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Anyway, so what we're going to cover today is a little bit about the

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background of how U .S.

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energy regulations and energy codes are structured.

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Our federal product regulations are promulgated

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by the federal agency,

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the U .S.

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Department of Energy,

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but the energy codes for buildings,

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for facilities,

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have a very strong influence on what are considered ban regulations in

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the United States.

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Then we'll talk about what I call the Fan Efficiency Regulation Unification

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Project.

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It's a long word,

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long phrase,

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but it'll have a very specific meaning and then status and time.

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So in terms of background,

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The federal federal regulations are run by what used

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to be called the Appliance and Equipment Standards Program by U .S.

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Department of Energy.

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Under the current presidential administration,

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it's been reshuffling.

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They totally eliminated the Energy Efficiency and Renewable

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Energy Office into some other department that I can't

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remember the names of,

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but minerals or something along those lines.

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But it's not energy efficient at all.

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So maybe someday they'll reorganize again.

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For product regulations,

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these are regulations for which manufacturers and importers are held

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responsible.

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So they're the ones who have to comply with the regulations.

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They're the ones who get fined with them and follow the regulations.

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So regulations focus on manufacturers

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and importers.

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Energy regulations are .

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So you'll see references

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to CFR section number six.

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So the Code of Federal Regulations is a mammoth publication.

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It's all electronic.

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But anyway,

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so regulations are in the Code of Federal Regulations.

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One of the values of a federal regulation is

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that they preempt state regulations and energy codes.

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So federal regulations...

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displace any other previous requirements,

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and any new requirements at the state level have to follow the

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federal regulations.

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Some states actually have state regulations that mimic the federal

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regulations for their own particular reasons,

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but in general,

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the value of a federal regulation is that there's only one regulation

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for the country,

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not 15 different state regulations.

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So federal preemption is a good thing.

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There are four parts generally to a federal efficiency regulation.

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There is a test procedure.

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The test procedure is a standalone federal regulation.

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And it defines the metric for which the minimum energy

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performance has to be.

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expressed as are represented.

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It also describes the method of test and the methods

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by which calculations are made to compute the metric for

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random differences.

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So it defines the metric,

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the method of test,

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and the method of calculation and how the values will be

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represented,

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the number of significant digits,

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how to rerouting them.

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Another part of our federal

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regulation is the certification.

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part where you talk about what parameters have to be filed in an

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online database and how frequently and any particular labeling

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requirements if there are any.

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And then also the last part is the surveillance part,

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which talks about enforcement procedures and fines.

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Fines can be considerable,

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$350 per day in your product

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that is not following the regulation from the date at which the infraction started.

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So if somebody gets caught violating the test procedure or the energy standard,

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you know,

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five years later,

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then they can be fined $350 per day per product since

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the day that they started putting that product on the market.

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out of compliance with the regulations.

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So fines can be millions of dollars in some cases.

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Product regulations are carried into energy codes.

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They're not completely independent.

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We have,

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and I'll talk about this in a second,

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in the United States we have what are called Model Energy Codes.

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These are published by ASHRAE and International Code

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Council, ICC.

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They're separate and somewhat related,

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but part of the federal regulations are embodied in energy

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codes.

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So my own state energy codes,

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these are codes by

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which system designers,

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consulting engineers...

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specifiers have to pay attention to,

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contractors are being held responsible for some parts of the codes,

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and facility owners are responsible.

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So these are like building codes,

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but for energy.

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And there are some factors like fire and life safety codes,

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energy codes,

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building codes.

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You know,

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so when you do a construction project in the United States,

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there's different bodies of codes that you have to be compliant with.

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Energy codes is one of them for many of the states.

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Generally,

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ASHRAE 90 .1 is the energy

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standard published by ASHRAE.

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It's also co -authored by the International Illuminating

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Society, IES.

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And it's an ANSI accredited standard.

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It's written in code enforceable language.

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It's an ASHRAE standard,

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but they rewrote it so that it reads like an energy code.

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And then there's also the International Energy Conservation Code,

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IECC.

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Generally,

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these codes are updated on three -year cycles,

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so they have standing committees that are continuously considering

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updates and changes to these model codes,

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and then they republish them roughly every three years.

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Individual states,

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if they have an energy code,

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they don't all have them.

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If they have an energy code,

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many of them adopt one or two of one or both of these model codes,

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and they may tailor them to their specific climates or construction practices.

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So even though a state might adopt the International Energy Conservation Code,

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you have to pay attention to if they make any particular changes to

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make it more or less stringent.

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than what's in the model code.

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That's why the word model is in the code.

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It's a model,

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but you don't have to follow it exactly.

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As I mentioned,

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there are different conditions are in place in different states.

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So there's one,

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several states have

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adopted an energy code that are earlier than 2013,

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and they're currently in force in their state.

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Some states have no energy code at all.

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Some states have what's called home rules,

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and they allow the cities within the states to adopt their own codes.

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So it gets very,

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very fractured when you get down into what I call jurisdictions

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for code compliance.

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Some states have their own code.

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They don't adopt a mild code.

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they actually have their own energy code California is one of them the

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most dominant one and then they update it on three -year cycles as well with

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their own processes that are apart from ASHRAE or the international program.

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So that's a little bit of background on the

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difference between product regulations and energy codes.

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With fans,

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it's even more complicated.

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When we started considering how to regulate fan efficiency in

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the United States,

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it was in the 2008,

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2009,

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2010 timeframe.

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At the same time that ISO was constructing the 12759

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fan efficiency standard of ISO,

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which led to the fan motor efficiency.

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grade FMEG metric.

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One of the precursors to FMEG is the

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FEG metric,

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the fan efficiency grade metric,

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and the United States fan manufacturers

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wanted an FEG,

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not an FMEG,

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because they didn't want to have anything to do with motors on drives as part of their fan efficiency

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calculation.

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So FEG was adopted early into

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the ASHRAE 90 .1 energy code in 2013.

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So between 2010 and 2013,

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when ISO is doing 12759,

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and is doing a standard called ANCO 205 for FBG,

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ASHRAE adopted FBG,

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2013.

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And there's a typo in that table,

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it should be 2016,

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not 26.

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You make an error in a slide presentation and

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it just lives forever.

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And I'll talk about this a little bit later,

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but the Department of Energy started a fan efficiency rulemaking in

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2011.

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So while ASHRAE was considering FEG for 90 .1,

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the Department of Energy said,

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we're going to create a fan product efficiency

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regulation similar to how the

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European Commission did for EC327,

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okay?

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Europe finished right around the time we were getting started.

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And in 2013,

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the DOE published a document called the Framework Document,

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which let the public know what their early thinking was and what a fan

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regulation would look like.

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And in that document,

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they rejected FEG and they rejected FMG.

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Okay,

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they rejected both methods.

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And so that left the fan industry to develop a new metric.

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And long story short,

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short story long,

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however you want to see it,

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we came up with the Fan Energy Index,

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FEI,

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in 2015.

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And then,

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again, I'm going to get ahead of myself here,

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but the FEI metric was later adopted into ASHRAE 90

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.1 to replace FEG starting in 2019.

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So we went from 2013 to 2019,

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completely different metrics in the energy codes.

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So we had about six years during which states were

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adopting a metric that was already dead in

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2013.

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So that's going to lead to some problems down the line.

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Generally for,

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I'm not going to explain the FEI metric,

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we've done this numerous times,

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but just trust me to say that the

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minimum energy performance level is an FEI metric.

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And the energy codes was 1 .00 for constant

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speed bands and 0 .95 for variable speed applications.

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They felt that credit was necessary for VFD

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applications because at full speed you're getting an energy penalty from the VFD.

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So they got credit for that.

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you know a small product for that uh for rearview applications the size

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range for these uh energy codes uh is at 0 .75

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kilowatts on the small and up to 150 horsepower uh

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on the higher side okay some fans don't are rated with

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electrical input power like the external rotor motor fans right so they have a their

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requirement is 0 .89 kilowatts for their minimum size okay

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so this is what

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we have to deal with in the United States for fan efficiency metrics at

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the state energy code level.

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The blue states have adopted a model energy

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code that includes FEI.

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Okay,

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so ASHRAE 90 .1 in 2019 or later.

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Yeah,

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2019 or later.

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And then the orange states like Texas,

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Arizona, Nevada,

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those are FEG states.

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And then the lighter,

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the darker gray states,

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Oklahoma,

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Arizona, Tennessee.

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These are states that have old energy efficiency codes

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that predate 2013.

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And then the white states have no energy code at all.

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So we've got four different cases spread around 50 different

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states.

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And it's kind of a mess.

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But this is what we're contending with.

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Now, in 2025,

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10 years after DOE decided on the FBI metric,

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it took 10 years for the states to have more

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states with FBI than FBG.

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So I tell people that looks like an ugly sweater you'd

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wear for a Christmas party.

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It's bad.

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So let's talk about what's going on with the product regulation.

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So federal,

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as I mentioned,

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while ASHRAE

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was considering FEG,

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and then published in 2013,

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that same year DOE decided not to use FEG

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in a rulemaking they started two years earlier.

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Between 2011 and 2023,

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a lot happened and nothing happened,

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okay?

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In other words,

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there was a lot of meetings,

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a lot of discussions,

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a lot of preliminary analyses.

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within the private energy rulemaking,

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some of it public,

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some of it private,

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but it took until 2023 for

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DOE to publish the test procedure.

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So 12 years to

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get a test procedure out the door.

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That test procedure did specify FEI as

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the regulatory metric and how to test for it and how to calculate it,

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and it stopped there.

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That same year,

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the state of California created their own product regulation

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for fans.

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So long story short,

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in 2017,

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the Department of Energy,

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under the president at the time,

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they said no more DOE regulations.

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So they stopped the fan rulemaking in its tracks.

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We felt at that time they were very close to publishing at least a test procedure.

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We actually petitioned DOE to restart the

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rulemaking and at least get the test procedure done so that there would be a consistent method

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of test for a fan regulation if any state were to do it,

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but they didn't start it.

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So California started their own rulemaking for a state

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chronic regulation in 2017.

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Even though they had a head start with what DOE had accomplished by then,

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it took them six years to finish their product regulation.

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The good news is that it used a DOE test procedure,

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because it has to,

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because it's federal preemption.

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So in 2023,

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significant developments were we have a federal test procedure with a metric and

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a method of test,

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and we also have a state product regulation,

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which not only included the testing,

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but a minimum energy performance standard,

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and also labeling requirements.

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So the fans had to have a label.

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And then the first,

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when it covers the regulation for the label,

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The font was so big that the labels would stretch across

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the diameter of the fan.

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And they didn't want to change it.

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They said,

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no, no, it's already done.

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We can't change it.

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So I had some of our members print out labels.

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Zealopic was one of them,

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right?

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Print out labels and put them on your fans.

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He sent it to me.

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So then I sent the photographs to the California Energy Commission.

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I said,

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I'm willing to go public with this.

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Do you really want the public to see that you're requiring people to do this?

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He said,

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no.

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So they fixed it.

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I should show you the picture sometime.

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It's kind of fun.

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Anyway.

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So, 2023.

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Now, in 2024,

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things began to pick up.

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We have a different presidential administration,

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and they're going to get to the end of their administration,

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actually, when they started coming out with some new stuff.

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They came out with the draft energy standard in January 2024.

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They gave industry three months to review it.

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Not a lot of time,

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given the volumes of information that you have to process when

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you evaluate a federal standard like that.

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And it was actually pretty rough shape.

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There was a lot of fundamental problems with the DOE structure

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of the regulation,

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and their technical analyses were highly flawed.

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And they really were,

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okay?

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Trust me.

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But they took our comments and other comments from other stakeholders,

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and they created a final regulation.

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It was done.

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And so before a federal regulation is published,

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it undergoes what's called an interagency review.

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They said, all right,

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we're done, but we want other DOE or other federal agencies to review the

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regulation to make sure it complies with the regulations of other agencies.

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And that sat in that place

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for four months.

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And then when the next president took over,

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signaling a different regime change in how the DOE would treat

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regulations,

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the outgoing president's administration withdrew

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the fan rule and others that were in consideration.

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They withdrew it from interagency

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review.

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So it went nowhere.

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It stopped right there.

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And when they did that,

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They have to do this with an official statement or an official document.

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And they said,

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all right, we're going to stop the rulemaking for fans.

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There's a lot of controversy.

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But hey,

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individual states,

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you can regulate fans.

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And there's a lot of energy savings.

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And if you wanted to use our draft energy standard as a basis,

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go right ahead.

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So that draft energy standard is in the public domain still,

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and it's very scary because,

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as I said earlier,

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it's highly flawed.

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DOE through fans to the walls of individual states to

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create their own state rules.

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AMCA

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We really,

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the fan industry has already suffered through 13 years of

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rulemaking within the DOE.

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Two different metrics,

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different state regulations now,

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different state energy codes.

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We needed some consistency in the fan efficiency world.

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So what we did,

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and I'll talk about that in a second,

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is we worked with the industry stakeholders to create a fan regulation

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template.

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at individual states.

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Okay,

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it's called the Unification Project,

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and I'll talk about that.

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So,

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you know,

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we wanted all the wolves.

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Okay,

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wolves, you can regulate fast,

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but we all want to regulate them the same way.

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In 2026,

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so this was college in December,

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November, December,

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2025.

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And then in 2026,

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the first state picked up the model of the will,

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Rhode Island.

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and they expect to complete it maybe this year but

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meanwhile there's no enforcement of the test procedure so unfortunately

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there's yes

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I'm getting too much fun.

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All right.

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So as I mentioned,

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we did the fan unification project to update.

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It was called a model bill published by another organization,

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Appliant Standards Awareness Project.

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So we worked with that organization,

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an NGO,

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a consulting firm that works with the California investor -owned utilities like

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PG &E and Southern California and Edison.

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And then HRI,

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which is the equivalent of Neuroment within the United States.

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and another consulting firm Energy Solutions that does a lot of wave eight programs and

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state advocacy.

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So we work with advocacy organizations,

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another trade association,

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my staff,

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and then members of AMGA,

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